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March 17, 2017

Media availability was pretty decent after the first practice. Both coordinators were put out there, along with Quarterback Max Browne and Safety Jordan Whitehead. Quadree Henderson, the team’s offensive utility knife and Defensive Tackle Jeremiah Taleni got some media time.

Max Browne had some attention for wearing uniform number 4 — which probably speaks to a lack of topics as much as anything else. It’s always been the uniform number he wore. Nate Peterman also wore it, and I had no idea that was any sort of conflict or problem. Like plenty of QBs in college now, Brett Farve was the idol to many.

New OC Shawn Watson mainly talked about getting acclimated to the new team and offensive assistants.

“Those guys have brought me in and we’ve shared a lot of football together, spent a lot of time together in our short period of time here, because we’re getting on the same page,” said Watson, hired Feb. 2. “What I’ve done is I’ve come in and tried not to change anything for the kids in terms of the nomenclature of football, how football’s communicated. So I’ve needed them to teach me, and they’ve been awesome.”

Of course, Watson, also the quarterbacks coach, has already begun his own teaching. Coach Pat Narduzzi referred to his tutelage of his position group as “quarterback camp,” helping to develop not just the veteran Browne but the three scholarship underclassmen competing with him.

So far, Watson has mostly been learning as much as he can about his new players and familiarizing himself with the offense’s potential strengths, all the while going one day at a time to install his system.

It does bring up a solid, and oft forgotten point. As much as there has been teeth gnashing over the fourth OC in as many years at Pitt, The offensive assistants have remained unchanged since Narduzzi’s arrival. Some underlying stability in the positions coaches for the players.

On the defensive side, DC Josh Conklin is trying to get the defense to simply be better then it has.

“We have to coach them better, No. 1,” Conklin said. “We have to find ways to put players in better position.”

Then, there’s swag. Conklin said defensive line coach Charlie Partridge, in his second stint at Pitt, is the man to coax it from his players.

“He’s a great motivator, a tremendous teacher,” Conklin said. “He brings great energy to those guys.

“For us, that’s where it starts. When they walk on the field, they have to have a certain swagger to them, they have to have a certain confidence about them.

“If they don’t, you are going to have troubles defending the run, defending the pass.”

Pitt’s defense certainly had trouble when the ball was put in the air. Of the 128 Division I teams, only Arizona State allowed more passing yards per game than Pitt’s 333.2.

“We hear it from coaches, fans, everybody,” junior safety Jordan Whitehead said.

Confidence is nice. It tends to remain when there is something to back it up. It will have a lot to do with the secondary and improvements there.

Jordan Whitehead being recovered from a broken arm will certainly help.

While he’s still getting comfortable having an arm that is in one piece again, Whitehead also has some other things from 2016 on his mind. In particular, he’s thinking about his performance. He was a second-team All-ACC selection last season after leading Pitt with more than seven tackles per game, but he can’t shake the feeling that 2016 was a step down from his freshman campaign a year earlier.

“I think I struggled and missed more tackles than I did my freshman year; I think that separated me from my freshman year to last year, just making more tackles,” Whitehead said. “Junior year, I’m picking up this role and being a leader on the defense and learning multiple positions, just to get comfortable with everybody, every position because you never know what’s going to happen.”

Whitehead can’t put his finger on why some of those missed tackles happened – “I just missed them; that’s on me,” he said – but he does acknowledge that he might have been trying to do too much in some situations, particularly as Pitt’s defense grew more porous against the pass.

“I probably (did) a couple times, just trying to make a play; not really focused on my assignment, just trying to make the play. It happens here and there to everybody, but I think just keying on your assignment will always make a better outcome than trying to do too much.”

While Whitehead works to stay in his lane on the field, he is also trying to take on a new role: leader. Pitt lost 18 scholarship seniors plus James Conner from the 2016 roster this offseason, leaving a serious void of leadership all over the team and especially on defense.

There is really no question that Whitehead will have to be a leader, not just of the secondary but on the team overall. There are only 11 scholarship seniors on this team.





86 comments

Good point on the continuity of position coaches. I had not taken that into account. It hasn’t, necessarily, been wholesale changes. I remember two years ago, Pitt being the youngest team in D1. It’s odd they still will be considered young … yet they are.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.17.17 @ 8:50 am

Tossing….I’m going to respond as a typical Pitt fan….Pitt is always to young, too short, a step slow, too light, backs that cannot turn their heads and run, out of position….etc. etc. etc.

Problem is….most of the time on D …its true!

Comment by Dan 72 03.17.17 @ 9:08 am

Love the optimism.

Before you guys start drinking.

I think the two big questions are:

How much better will the defense be?

How much worse will the offense be?

And of course how does this translate into wins and losses?

When you have a terrible defense, it can’t help but get better, but how much?

We will have more skilled guys, but with much less experience.

When you have one of your best offenses ever and you lose key guys, impossible to be better.

Two future Pro linemen, a solid experienced QB, the best power running back and touchdown machine,and a prolific Tight End.

I think the offense should hold its own with pretty good replacements, won’t be as prolific but as long as Browne is not a turnover machine, it should be pretty solid. The wild Card is a new OC.

I think the defense is still a mystery, but can’t be worse. Will we get a pass rush? Will we create turnovers? Will we get enough third and fourth down stops?

As always, will we stay healthy? Last year the offense had few injuries, the defense, had some big ones starting with Hendrix and Zeise, then Whitehead and Jarrett. We do have more quality depth in a lot of places, but not everywhere.

Comment by gc 03.17.17 @ 10:22 am

Quarterback gone, Linemen gone, Tight End gone, Offensive Coordinator gone… and worst of all… CONNER gone!

Any projection as to what this Offense is going to be capable of as a unit is one BIG guess.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.17.17 @ 10:49 am

Though I do like the sound of a Wide Receiving Corps with the names Henderson, Weah… and TIPTON!

Comment by PittofDreams 03.17.17 @ 10:55 am

Even though I picked 15 of 16 winners yesterday (missed on MD) on ESPN, there were over 150,000 who had 16 of 16. Go figure. Should have known better on MD as we beat them.

Comment by Frank MD 03.17.17 @ 11:13 am

good one dan, just be sure you are ready with a bunch of nicknames, in case the shit hits the fan!

Comment by goalie44 03.17.17 @ 11:51 am

In college ball,unless you have an established program with all 4*s and red shirt players every year it is a crap shoot. I remember John Majors talking about Tony Dorsett”s debut. John said he knew he had recruited some good talent but was not sure what kind of a year lay ahead till the first game when Dorsett ran wild . He said he was so excited he got to his motel room, shut the door and exclaimed out loud to himself ____amn we got a football team and never looked back.

Comment by Pitt60 03.17.17 @ 1:17 pm

those were the days pitt60…

Comment by goalie44 03.17.17 @ 2:20 pm

Frank – I had 14/16. Bucknell and Vandy got me

Dan_72 – that was just a statement. Not meant as an excuse although it sets us up real well in 2 years … on defense.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.17.17 @ 2:26 pm

Pitt60, it was actually after the Big33 game that Majors said that.

Comment by JoeKnew 03.17.17 @ 2:31 pm

Frank – you should have gone with the if you lost to Pitt at home strategy with MD. Worked for me :)

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.17.17 @ 2:48 pm

Swear I haven’t started drinking yet…just out in the PG…Pitt interviewing to AD candidates. Chun from Fla Int’l and Heather Lyle from E Michigan…and here’s the kicker…using search firm
DHR to assist (take our money and give cover to Gallahger and worthless Bd of Tristees!” Again…

Comment by Dan 72 03.17.17 @ 3:12 pm

Dan_72 … DHR was how GT got Pastner. Pitt used cronycentric Collegiate Sports.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.17.17 @ 3:47 pm

Are we so incompetent, we cannot hire with using a headhunting firm??

Comment by Dan 72 03.17.17 @ 4:03 pm

Dan72,

The record speaks for itself. We are that incompetent and we even fuck it up with a search firm. (Haywood, Graham, Stallings, BARNES)

Comment by Tony77019 03.17.17 @ 4:12 pm

As far as I can see, Pitt athletics – that is the revenue sports – have just one thing in their favor – Narduzzi’s football program which has produced two 8 win seasons with bowl losses and no national final ranking.

No major college works harder at turning off fans than the clown show at Pitt.

Comment by Tony77019 03.17.17 @ 4:14 pm

The search committees aren’t quite headhunters at this level. The main role of the search committees is to provide plausible deniability. Schools talk to search committees, committees talk to agents who talk to the coaches or sitting AD’s. That way schools can say that they only offered the job to one person, and sitting coaches or current AD’s can say they haven’t interviewed with anybody. They are just intermediaries I’m not sure how much consulting or recommendations the committees even make.

Comment by Twink22 03.17.17 @ 4:33 pm

Twink – Exactly. They do the behind the scenes stuff and connect you to the candidates you want to speak to or candidates can reach out to them. What happened last year was a sham though.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.17.17 @ 4:52 pm

I’m not saying it wasn’t a half assed search that was done, but it’s not as if Pitt went to a search firm and said give me who you got, and the firm came back only with Stallings. If Pitt wanted a young upcoming coach they would have gotten one even working with that search firm.

Comment by Twink22 03.17.17 @ 6:46 pm

NC State hires Keatts –

link to pittsburgh.rivals.com

Comment by Erie Express 03.17.17 @ 6:58 pm

That didn’t take long.

Comment by Goalie44 03.17.17 @ 7:02 pm

Those ad names are a far cry from the likes of tressel.

Comment by Goalie44 03.17.17 @ 7:07 pm

The Nordenberg-Pederson legacy lives on.

We had our fill of Chancellors with bad vision including, Bowman, Litchfield, and Nordenberg.

Bowman started the poor sports legacy and the others built on it. Even Posvar only had guts for about 10 yrs. Overall Litchfield was the worst for the whole of the University.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.17.17 @ 7:33 pm

So much for the front porch.

Comment by Goalie44 03.17.17 @ 7:41 pm

I’m NOT one of those Archie Miller fans (good coach, a lot to prove yet though), but he/Dayton got a bad draw against Wright St. Marshall is too good of a coach and they are a rough draw for anyone- just didn’t seem right to me.

Comment by 1618mt 03.18.17 @ 7:37 am

A search committee never picks a Tressel or anyone with baggage, no matter the upside. They will pick the guy/gal that checks off the most points on their checklist of desired traits. This is how you get a guy like Barnes who is totally bad fit. A committee looks for the best resume not the best person. Pitt is more concerned with an academic fit than finding a winner.

Comment by gc 03.18.17 @ 8:36 am

The PG article is very vague. It only really says those people have interviewed. I wouldn’t read too much into it. Usually, when news break you’re down to the final candidate in salary discussions like how the Barnes story broke. I think the PG was just picking up clues that Pitt fans were becoming restless with the lack of a story.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.18.17 @ 8:51 am

Chun went to Duquesne. Seems to me that makes him the front-runner.

Here’s what they had to say about him when hired at Florida Atlantic.

link to fau.edu

Comment by PittofDreams 03.18.17 @ 8:53 am

We fans have no impact on who they hire as the next AD. All we can do is bitch about the results.

Comment by grizzly1 03.18.17 @ 9:04 am

Didn’t DL coach Charlie Partridge just get fired by FL Atlantic AD Patrick Chun?

How would that be a good fit?

Elephant in the room…

Comment by Erie Express 03.18.17 @ 10:05 am

Illinois BB hires Underwood from Ok State

Comment by Erie Express 03.18.17 @ 4:35 pm

After almost two months of searching for an AD and the names that they’ve come up are: Chun and Heather Lyle, using a search firm no doubt. This is pathetic, Gallagher must be held accountable with the horrible Barnes pick and the Stallings debacle. Had high hopes for Gallagher and he must get this right!

Comment by PTG 03.18.17 @ 4:45 pm

he won’t be held accountable because no one cares about athletics.

Comment by goalie44 03.18.17 @ 4:47 pm

correct

the BoT had Gallagher say some things about the front porch

But, These Phuckers dont care about athletics

All lip service

Prove it when you build an OCS. Give our track team a track. Build a real swimming arena. Stop building cheap venues for soccer and baseball. Fund a hockey and lacrosse team. Hire a big time AD. And stop making stupid hiring mistakes like KS using search firms for deniability.

Purge the BoT of all Nitters and start with a smaller body. Separate the body into academics and athletics. No more than 9 per body. AD accountable to athletics. Gallagher accountable to academics.

Comment by TX Panther 03.18.17 @ 6:03 pm

Villimanilly pulled a Pitt today.

#1 seed bites the dust before reaching the Sweet 16

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 6:45 pm

Funny, whoever coaches at Xavier never has a problem coming up with players to field good to excellent teams (X currently trashing ACC Florida State).

So ppl say u can’t recruit to Pitt.

But you can recruit to Xavier. lol yea right

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 6:47 pm

The Otis apologists insist this was a Great Year in the ACC. Quite the contrary is true.

This was a down year for the ACC.

Miami got crushed by a 14 loss bigjoke team.
ND eked by ivy Princeton before losing by 12 to the Hoopies
FSU struggled past FAU before getting pasted today
UVA struggled with Wilmington and they’re gonna lose tonite.

So indeed it was a DOWN year in the ACC.

Yet Pitt still finished in next to bottom place.

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 6:54 pm

Syracuse was down substantially down as well, didn’t even make the Field of..what is it…68 or 72 or some such nonsense.

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 7:00 pm

I hate bombing a football thread since we’re trying to turn the page but….

Wisconsin upset Nova with many of the same players as last year when they beat Pitt.

So remember how strong the ACC supposedly was this year and how that was used by Stallings apologists in rationalizing the poor conference record?

Well WF, VT, Miami, ND and FSU (currently being crushed) already out by the round of 32. UVA plays Florida at 8:40 and possibly the sixth ACC team falls in the first weekend. UVA with a 5 point squeaker in their opening game so….

Pitt’s wins over Marquette and Maryland also subject to scrutiny in light of their first game exits from the tourney.

Hard to draw conclusions from one or two data points, but given all the above Pitt may actually have been worse last season than even some of us may have thought. Thanks Barnes!

Comment by Barvo 03.18.17 @ 7:13 pm

Beat me to it Emel. Sorry for the dupes.

Comment by Barvo 03.18.17 @ 7:14 pm

The ACC has only 3 good teams this year, ND, FST, UV all could be beat by Pitt.

Comment by Jackagain 03.18.17 @ 7:26 pm

It is March Madness after all.

I could care less about Spring Football practice.

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 7:30 pm

I could care lass about basketball with Pitt missing

Could care less about meaningless bowl games. Need to get to ACC championship. Need to play on New Years

Need for Pitt to get back to sweet 16 with a new coach

need a fuckin new AD

Comment by TX Panther 03.18.17 @ 8:12 pm

Chas, you know you are a Basketball guy.

ACC plays a “soft” game. Refs seem to not let games get too physical. Watching Gonzaga this evening, I want to make a few comments.

1- The refs let the Zags play very physical and it showed especially their 7’2″ Polish guy. Maybe this is a new trend in the tournament. Games in the NCAA didn’t use to allow physical play when PITT did play that way.

2- Why couldn’t Dixon get the talent from Europe and Australia that Few gets? Hell, do you guys know how small and out of the way Spokane is? It takes 7-8 hrs. to get there from NYC. Nothing direct. PITT was a National power through the early 2000’s and recruiting should have been easier. Also what happened to recruiting the Northeast?

3- Maybe the reason the ACC is not doing well in the tournament is they are getting beat up by the bumping and pushing. They’re not used to it. It’s the old Big East play which I miss.

If it wasn’t for the +$20MM, I wouldn’t put up with Greensboro.

Say no more needed, than better recruiting.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.18.17 @ 8:35 pm

The ACC is getting smashed today….

Comment by Jackagain 03.18.17 @ 8:48 pm

Europe? Dixon was lucky they gave him a budget that allowed a drive to Maryland and Virginia….

Comment by Jackagain 03.18.17 @ 8:50 pm

KS should hire Mark Gottfried as an assistant before someone else does. Of course that would take vision, brains and quick action. All being anathema for Pitt athletics.

Comment by Jackagain 03.18.17 @ 8:52 pm

The dorks of UVA are getting mauled as I predicted at 6:54.

ACC is garbage this year.

UNC & Duke will go since they always get favorable seeds and placements. Both of them got to play in nearby Greenville, SC…even though both are on opposite sides of the bracket.
What a farce and this kind of sham goes on, year after year.

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 9:16 pm

And where does UNC go next weekend, neighboring state of Tennessee. While the Dukies get NYC.

Fraud, sham…i won’t watch.

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 9:19 pm

Jackagain, I had a feeling Dixon didn’t have all the money he needed. But I’m not privey to the budgets. Also consider how little money Gonzaga makes/has. Tiny school +tiny conference +large distance travel cost +small area = little money.

No question Few has done a very good recruiting job.

Also remember guys, PITT was beating Gonzaga last yr. in Okinawa when the game was called. The only player lost from that team was Robinson.

For some reason, I got this feeling Dixon would have found a replacement among the new guys or new recruit. He might have made the tournament this year.

Sure hope he wasn’t pushed out, especially by Upittbaseball.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.18.17 @ 9:20 pm

Virginia is finding out again that the Dixon style isn’t so hot come March….

Comment by Jackagain 03.18.17 @ 9:23 pm

small arena

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.18.17 @ 9:30 pm

right Jack….slogball and 100% effort in regular season with limited players only gets you so far in The Dance.

While these teams with the best players don’t always play at 100% in the Regular season…they do in The Dance.

UVA style is old BigEast Pitt. And like Pitt, when push comes to shove, you got to be able to make shots. And the sloggers are not able to compete and create their own shots.

Pitt got trounced by Florida as well, even though that was our best team in the last 5 years (Lamar).

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 10:58 pm

More ammo that ACC was not very good this year.

Oakland University 74
Clemson 69

Ok so Otis apologists would say what…Oakland has better players than Pitt. :)

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 11:06 pm

We do know that Pitt is paying many more shekels to Otis, than Oakland is to ..whoever.

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 11:07 pm

Very disappointed Pitt decided to doing NOTHING.

When Otis himself gave Pitt an ‘out’ with his on court berating and f-bomb on a Pitt player.

Disappointed but not surprised. Cause cheap and no honor is Pitt.

That should be the new Pitt motto instead of Veritas et Virtus.

Cheapus et No Honorus

Comment by Emel 03.18.17 @ 11:10 pm

I wouldn’t hire Wang chun or Doris Burke Jr to work in the Apparel secrion at Dicks sporting goods.

Embarrassing even announceing these nobodies from dogshit conference USA and Eastern Michigan.

Must as well Cal U or Gannons AD and save on relocation

HDR is a chop shop

Search comittee of 68 people is PC Garbage.

Emel – I’m flying to Charlotte tomorrow. Dinner?

I can bring Wang Chun and we can talk about the 4k people at his games and how he hired and fired 3 coaches in 5 years in. Football. Let me know. Email me yes or no. Staying at Hilton Downtown

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.17 @ 1:06 am

Stallings in the Gorman TRIBLIVE article today ==>

“If you want the truth, next year will feel like year one in our program,” Stallings said. “It’ll be our opportunity to begin to make it our program.”

NOPE….it is YEAR # 2….and counting…
and EVERYONE is WATCHING this dumpster fire.

Comment by The Truth 03.19.17 @ 5:28 am

Pitt’s problem is not the new AD search or the off campus stadium, it’s this fan base.

Pitt Football is rapidly rising into an ACC contender and this blog is stuck on basketball.

COLLEGE BASKETBALL IS IRRELEVANT AT PITT!

Comment by scriptrules 03.19.17 @ 6:50 am

Surprised to see ACC getting HUMBLED in the Tournament.

Leads to the question of “Just how BAD is Pitt Basketball?”

Comment by PittofDreams 03.19.17 @ 7:52 am

POD , OPG….ACC getting nuked. ND played nervous and FSU and UVA acted like they’d never seen a basketball. All 3 teams totally intimidated. Refs ARE letting em play! Where was this when Pitt had its teams??

Duke gone soon….NC to follow. How bad does that make Pitt??

Comment by Dan 72 03.19.17 @ 8:17 am

Pitt BB will be back…when Kevin Stallings is long gone. There are numerous good young coaches in the D1 ranks. The Pitt administration allowed Barnes to take a lazy man’s approach to hiring one of the two key coaching positions at the school.

For that, someone should be fired. Unfortunately, he left town for Oregon State and will never be held accountable again by Pitt.

The question now is, how many years do we Pitt fans have to wait for Stallings to be gone?

Comment by Erie Express 03.19.17 @ 9:37 am

Proves Dokish wrong again that we win in any other conference other than ACC.

What a joke his statements are. We would
win less in Big12. Stallings saying year 1 starts now. Comical. No ownership and all ad candidates are puppets woth. O ballls because a real AD fires Stalings and his metamucil.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.17 @ 9:56 am

OPG – It is true. Hearman Barnes read my posts and fired Dixon. Then excused himself and his 11 wives and is foimg to fire geritol from Oregon. Dixon had the money and a lot
Of it but chose jot to share his almost 3m a year. That is on him. How many millions you need jamie?

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.17 @ 10:00 am

Problems with Pitt Basketball go beyond Stallings. It’s SYSTEMIC at its core.

Pitt Basketball rode Dixon for years until his style of Coaching and resulting POOR Recruiting caught up with both Jamie and the Program.

And obviously Basketball not alone.

Football too suffering from the same systemic problems plaguing Basketball.

It clearly is rooted in the lack of Leadership and Vision by the people in charge who’ve somehow managed to stay in control despite their flagrant incompetency when it comes to Athletics.

And you can add Gallagher to that list.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.19.17 @ 11:53 am

Gallagher is certainly fair game for criticism, however he hasn’t been here long enough to form any competent conclusions about him. And in fairness, a very good football coach was hired under his watch. He hired a “basketball guy” to make the bb coach hire and it was a disaster, yes, but that AD is already gone, so that made amends to some degree. In other words, Barnes made Gallagher and the university look bad and he’s gone. KS had also made Gallagher and the university look bad, so let’s see how long tray takes to rectify

Comment by 1618mt 03.19.17 @ 12:21 pm

Lots of hypocrisy here. Most people want to give narduzzi three or four to get “his players” on board. Why doesn’t stallings get the same leeway? Sure the season sucked but it happens to most programs except for the dukes and the n’c’s

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 12:36 pm

True, jury still out on Narduzzi.

Continuing to lose recruiting battles to Franklin… and back-to-back 8 Win Seasons and TWO Bowl losses does not exactly guarantee that the groundwork is being laid for a future D-1 Powerhouse.

To his credit, Narduzzi did govern Pitt Football to MAJOR upset wins against Penn State and the National Champions on their home turf.

But deferring to perennial INTERIM Athletic Director Randy Juhl… obviously curing Cancer is still easier than winning 10 Football Games.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.19.17 @ 12:52 pm

True Pod so why is the judge, jury and executioner out on stallings after one year? Granted maybe Dixon would have had better results this year, but don’t forget they were HIS players.

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 1:04 pm

And there were no “major” wins in Pn’s first year.

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 1:07 pm

@goalie44

Exactly, Dixon left the program with 2 guys, Young and Artis as ACC quality players, no bench, no big man and no point guard. Prior to Stallings please remember Pitt missed the NCAA tournament 2 out of the last 5 years. This program was definitely trending down.

It was evident this team did not want to play defense. The 2016 recruiting class is gone but would any of them really make a difference?

The pure hatred of Stallings is quite amusing but is it because of Stallings or the manner in which he was hired? Stallings knows more about basketball than us and he might be a bit harsh but college basketball is big business and your telling me none of these kids have ever been criticized ? I played high school sports and I have to tell you the coaches were not shy about criticizing performance in colorful language.

I don’t think Stallings will be here after the next 2 seasons unless he really has a stellar recruiting class in 2018. The Dixon recruiting over his last few years was pathetic you saw it this season.

If Stallings succeeds it’s because he went out and recruited ACC qualified players because the cupboard on campus is bare and his current class is an infusion of talent but unproven in ACC play.

Comment by WLAT 910 radio and the big beat! 03.19.17 @ 1:09 pm

I agree, but what I’m saying is that it would have been easier for Dixon to achieve better results with these underachievers than stallings because their was no loyalty. Again devils advocate will say loyalty has to be earned as well. That’s why I believe the book is still open.

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 1:15 pm

Agreed

Comment by WLAT 910 radio and the big beat! 03.19.17 @ 1:35 pm

I am not a hypocrite. Football coaches get 4 years in my opinion before you can start to hold win loss accountability…depending on schedule. For instance, our outgoing AD was an idiot. Why schedule the toughest OOC schedule with a team that will be rebuilding? He listened to the playoff committee yap about how they will look at the OOC scheduling to break ties in the playoff picture. He failed to understand that you need to make the playoff for that analysis to take place. This is where you rely on your conference to mostly carry your difficulty of schedule. He never understood that. Pitt should have 3 very winnable games and one potential upset game every year. That gives us a chance at a special season every couple of years.

For bball, i think the same way. A coach has 4 years to get on the right path unless something comes up that throws that thinking off schedule. This year, something did. Berating and verbally abusing a player on national tv is inexcusable in this day and age. The head coach couldn’t deal with the pressure and exploded. Unfortunately, we have no AD to address that with the coach.

As far as AD, Tressel brings immediate credibility to the university. The others being considered, bring nothing. I am sure we will be inclusive instead of being excellent in sports to compliment academics.

Comment by Huff 03.19.17 @ 1:43 pm

It bothers me none stallings dressed down a player during the game. Coaches bitch out players all the time. When the famous coaches do it it’s because their passionate…

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 1:54 pm

Like Patton said, “maybe i should have kissed the son of a bitch”…..

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 1:56 pm

Comedy Hour here. Rockports DIDN’T win at Vandy with 2 First Rounders!!! Now he will win at Pitt and the ACC. LMAO

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.19.17 @ 3:45 pm

Stallings had a past at Vanderbilt that included his own players and it isn’t pretty. He finished his career below .500 in the SEC. He won one SEC tournament title during that time and no regular season championships. He made the NCAA tournament once in his last four seasons at Vandy and lost a play-in game by 20. He guided Pitt to their first sub .500 record in 16 seasons and their worst conference winning percentage in 40 years.

It doesn’t bother me either that Stallings berated a player for poor play. It does bother me that we was AGAIN caught on an open mike cursing at a player. He should be able to express himself like a leader at an institution of higher learning, not a DI at Parris Island.

Stop with the persecution nonsense. Stallings deserves to be seriously scrutinized. Stop with the typical drivel about a shitty roster. Pitt returned 6 of their top 7 scorers off of a tournament team last year. Yet Pitt scored fewer points this year than last and surrendered more points this year than last. The tough schedule excuse is fading with the very poor NCAA and NIT tournament showing of the entire ACC and of quality non-conference foes Marquette, Maryland and SMU. Pitt lost a game inside the city limits by 9 to a Duquesne team that finished last in the A10 and 10-22 on the season.

7 of 9 ACC teams already bounced from the NCAA tourney by the round of 32. Duke and UNC still to play.

Comment by Barvo 03.19.17 @ 4:00 pm

I’m sure if he had the success of a bobby knight, people would care less about his profanity. Dixon’ behavior court side was also a joke.

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 4:49 pm

Stallings had a resume of work for Barnes to look at and it wasn’t stellar and he wouldn’t be hired by any other ACC team.

Barnes messed up – his two most important positions to manage were the FB HC and BB HC. Gallagher took care of the FB hire and Barnes messed up, big time, on the BB hire.

The initial displeasure over the Stallings hire was because of Barnes looking down his nose to the fans and calling us “noise”. I believe if Stallings would have tried to engage the fans and coach the team he inherited, he may not be so dispised.

But he did neither – he never made an attempt to give the fans anything – like telling us what his offensive and defensive philosophies were – or buying pizza for the Zoo – or engaging Pitt’s basketball history. And as far as coaching, he was a poor in game manager, gave up easily and oversaw some of the worst losses and performances in Pitt history.

KS will not win fans over nor win BB games at Pitt.

My money will continue to support Pitt FB and the Golden Panthers. But, I won’t go out of my way for BB until the Stallings era is over. In my mind, it already is over…

Comment by Erie Express 03.19.17 @ 4:54 pm

it takes just 1 or 2 elites to turn your basketball team around

it takes 5-6 for football

easier to right the ship in basketball

most recruits are ready to play in b-ball unlike football where size matters…weight room, film sessions, coaching. you dont hear red shirt basketball do ya.

basketball is a more simple game. yet i think its more beautiful than football.

Comment by TX Panther 03.19.17 @ 5:04 pm

At Erie, I could care less Barnes did or did not do any of those things. All I want him to do is win. I’m not a oracle. Time will will determine his success.

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 6:23 pm

“Lots of hypocrisy here. Most people want to give narduzzi three or four years to get “his players” on board. Why doesn’t stallings get the same leeway Sure the season sucked but it happens to most programs except for the dukes and the n’c’s”
Sorry Goalie, Narduzzi has won 8 games in his first two years and much more difficult to right the ship in football as in basketball as TX Panther is so spot on as is Erie Express. Barnes called us “Noise”, we didn’t want a retread but a new up and coming coach like a Ben Howland at that time. We wanted a Bryce Drew, so we got KS and Vandy got what we wanted. So ultimately there’s a disconnect up top. Bad hire on Barnes, bad hire by Barnes on KS (but we must be patient now) and current names thrown out there for the AD position are more than underwhelming! Gallagher has got to get his shit together and very soon.

Comment by PTG 03.19.17 @ 6:30 pm

Yeah , we’ve won 8 games and embarrassed ourselves in each bowl game. I ageee the search was questionable but but stallings is going to get a chance to prove himself.

Comment by Goalie44 03.19.17 @ 6:55 pm

Pitt can’t even hire an AD. How are they going to fire and replace the bb coach by the time the season starts.

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