March 14, 2017

Who Are These Guys?

Filed under: Basketball,Recruiting,Transfer — Chas @ 5:17 pm

That will be the question Cam Johnson, Ryan Luther and Pitt fans will be asking. The Pitt basketball roster continues to, um, evolve.

Freshman Corey Manigault and sophomore Crisshawn Clark will transfer out of the University of Pittsburgh basketball program school officials announced Tuesday. Both players are expected to finish the spring semester and leave the school in good academic standing.

“We wish Corey and Crisshawn the best of luck as they look to continue their collegiate careers elsewhere,” said head coach Kevin Stallings. “We will continue to support both of them through their impending transfers.”

Neither one is a shock.

Clark suffered a season ending injury in preseason, the same knee that had been injured before, and early reports suggested his playing days were done. He hasn’t given up, but Coach Stallings clearly didn’t think he will be the same.

Manigault has been rumored to be looking to leave for nearly a month. He was not redshirted — even though it was obvious from the beginning that he should. Instead, he was mostly inserted in garbage time or for maybe a minute or so around timeouts to give Mike Young a breather.

Losing Manigault bothers me a bit more, because I do think he is the type of player that will develop into a very good player in time. I don’t know if the coaching staff doesn’t see it that way, or if he just doesn’t have faith in the coaches.

As it stands, despite a recruiting class with seven players, Pitt has room for one more assuming Zach Smith is returned to walk-on status. For now.

Rumors are still out there that at least one more guard could be on the way out.

So, um, spring practice for football is about to start. Yay?


Maybe we can start playing in the A-10 for hoops.

For that is the talent level we have.

Very sad state of affairs.

Even our AD thinks so. (The one on both Pitt’s and Oregon State’s payroll)

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 5:33 pm

Honestly i wasn’t enthralled with anyone in last year’s class. So…

However all of them were rated higher than everyone in this year’s class….sans Thompson.

So, you figure it out. smh

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 5:35 pm

Just keep hoping for a new AD and a new coach!

Comment by ShorePitt 03.14.17 @ 7:25 pm

…everyone abandoning a SINKING SHIP.



that we’re going to have to endure this for another 2 years……..

Comment by The Truth 03.14.17 @ 7:27 pm

Don’t be surprised if Wilson and/or Milligan follow.

Expect the staff to go hard after grad transfer since Luther and Johnson are the only returnees with any kind of experience

Comment by wbb 03.14.17 @ 7:29 pm

I made the point early in the Season that this Pitt Team was short on Athletic Ability… with a few exceptions.

This became more evident as the Season wore on.

Manigault was one who actually looked like he had a little something in the way of athleticism.

It was his SKILLS that seemed to be the problem.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.14.17 @ 7:34 pm

I can’t believe Wilson hasn’t transferred out yet, he’s next to go

I’m fine with cleaning out the rest of the trash on the roster

Comment by Keith 03.14.17 @ 7:49 pm

i’m fine with only keeping cam and luther

get rid of all coaches and rest of players

including the new recruits coming in

start walk ons

transition is one year

if ks remains, pitt loses over $4 million each year in lost revenues, merchandise and brand equity.

buy out the mudder phucker now

Comment by TX Panther 03.14.17 @ 7:53 pm

Irrespective of one’s view of these kid”s talent, this chaos is on KS. This is morphing into a disgrace. This is college guys. Most of these players are also purportedly there to get an education. This induced attrition doesn’t help Pitt on any way, shape or form. In fact. It’s a travesty.

Comment by Wally 03.14.17 @ 8:14 pm

Keith, you get very upset with any harsh criticism of HCKS, but you have no problem with referring to some of our players as “trash”. You and HCKS two peas in a pod!

Comment by HbgFrank 03.14.17 @ 8:34 pm

This isn’t the first time a new coach has cleaned house or most have left

Comment by Keith 03.14.17 @ 8:39 pm


My frustration is with pitt fans and their unrealistic expectations not with coach stallings

Comment by Keith 03.14.17 @ 8:49 pm

@Wally, you are 1/3 right by calling this a travesty…it’s also a sham and a mockery. That’s right…the classic travashamockery. Blast from the past.

Comment by Lastrowofsection4 03.14.17 @ 8:54 pm

Even though this didn’t work out for these 3 kids, they still honored their commitment to Pitt, when Dixon had signed them and he bolted for TCU.

So they came, they saw and they smelled the stench emanating from Otis.

Honestly can anyone on this board say….they would want to play for Otis ?

I was a pretty good bball player(even recruited by Al McGuire for Marquette), I would have never wanted to play for a turd like this putz.

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 9:42 pm

For those keeping score. I get a score of +3.

i got Otis, turd and putz in one post.

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 9:44 pm

For the kiddos.

link to

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 9:47 pm

Now Al could coach and recruit.

1966–67 Marquette 21–9 NIT Runner-up
1967–68 Marquette 23–6 NCAA Sweet 16
1968–69 Marquette 24–5 NCAA Elite Eight
1969–70 Marquette 26–3 NIT Champions
1970–71 Marquette 28–1 NCAA Sweet 16
1971–72 Marquette 25–4 NCAA Sweet 16
1972–73 Marquette 25–4 NCAA Sweet 16
1973–74 Marquette 26–5 NCAA Runner-up
1974–75 Marquette 23–4 NCAA Round of 32
1975–76 Marquette 27–2 NCAA Elite Eight
1976–77 Marquette 25–7 NCAA Champions

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 9:51 pm

Marquette will always be the Warriors to me !

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 9:52 pm

Emel – I wouldn’t play for Otis for 250k in gold coins.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.14.17 @ 9:53 pm

Who would want to play for a washed up never been Turd? He sucks and his recruiting sucks and his coaching is terrible. Pitt can care less about athletics. Month 4 no AD. A saggy balls AARP Bitter Old Geriatric ducksock as a coach that is laughing stock of D1.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.14.17 @ 9:55 pm

Luuuke…my son….you have come home !

Comment by Emel 03.14.17 @ 10:01 pm

I think we as Pitt fans should at least expect reasonably competitive conference play and an appearance in the NCAA. Oh wait, we had that last season.

This season we got more exciting basketball leading to fewer points scored and a defense that surrendered more points. To prove how well that worked out we got a losing season record for the first time in 15 seasons and the worst conference winning percentage since the Eastern Eight in 1977.

I think we should reasonably expect top seven finishes in the ACC every year and a sweet sixteen every 2-3 years. That seems realistic.

Now fire Otis and let’s get started.

Comment by Barvo 03.14.17 @ 10:20 pm


Not gonna happen with current state of the program

Only hope is stallings keeps the program afloat and we find our next Ben howland to turn this thing around

Let’s hope that happens

Comment by Keith 03.14.17 @ 11:17 pm

And top 7 in acc every year…that way unrealistic …your talking prime Jamie Dixon years

He gone!, and so is that culture

Comment by Keith 03.14.17 @ 11:20 pm

Keith – and according to you, not only is Jamie gone, but so is the “trash”.

And when you are confronted on your choice of words, you blame it on the “noise”.

Barney, is that you? I thought you picked up your stuff, left town and went to Beaver Nation last month.

Now your trolling Pitt fans under the blog name of Keith.

Thanks for the BB legacy you left behind…out with the best, in with the (you fill in the blank since you such a good wordsmith).

Comment by Erie Express 03.15.17 @ 3:41 am

Before you cut down the likes of Kithcart, Wilson and Manigault …. remember, they were 3 stars, not Kentucky or Duke one-and-dones. And we have seen many 3-stars in the past improve drastically over their stay. If McGhee, Wannamker, Patterson or even Young were judged on their 1st years … then they would have been long forgotten.

Comment by wbb 03.15.17 @ 7:00 am

And Al rode a Harley.

Comment by Lastrowofsection4 03.15.17 @ 7:18 am

Emel, I don’t know if I forgot or just never realized that Marquette weren’t the Warriors anymore. Don’t see anything wrong with this name. I can see an objection to Redskins .. but no issue with Indians, Warriors, Utes, Seminoles, etc

Comment by wbb 03.15.17 @ 7:25 am

Something certainly stinks. Clark and Manigault would have been competing for starting slots, but they are not interested. Willing to give up a year of eligibility to get out. Just one more negative on the coaching resume, on a guy that certainly looks like he is crashing and burning.

Comment by gc 03.15.17 @ 7:44 am

These players can easily be replaced. Not like they were 5 stars. Kitchcart will develop into the best of them if he survives college.

A little disturbing they all left but transfers are normal after a coaching change.

Stalling needs to grab another big man. Grad or JC player.

Comment by notrocketscience 03.15.17 @ 8:05 am

You land to a job and the boss is an a-hole you look for another job.

You go to play BB at a university and the coach is an A-hole…..

Comment by Tony in Harrisburg 03.15.17 @ 8:36 am

Bad for basketball, and bad for football recruiting in Jan and Feb with a half filled zoo.

Comment by alcofan 03.15.17 @ 9:36 am

Looking back at what Coach Dixon recruiting it seems that a house cleaning was in order. A good example was Josh Newkirk ( a Dixon recruit who left while Dixon was still there) and when he left for University of Indiana I was surprised any big school wanted him. I think I was right in that he was good but not great and Indiana failed to make the NCAA. For you guys that think Coach Stallings is being fired( based on rumors like:”my brother in law’s sister heard from a big Pitt higher up that Stallings is gone”) let’s get real. Pitt will not pony up the remaining years of Coach Stallings pay and then go out and get that “big” name that everyone seems to think is just waiting by the phone to say yes. Guys, face it, this 2016-17 team was never going to set the world on fire and there was NO leaders on the floor. Yes there were 4 seniors on the team but tell me who was going to be the guy who took responsibility. Artis “guess they needed me when I broke the rules and didn’t play against Duquesne and just for the hell of it will show up late for a team breakfast; Young, who was so soft spoken and couldn’t make a big shot when we needed it, and was late for a team breakfast; Jeter, who before the first game was even played was contemplating not standing during the National anthem. Yes, this was a rudderless ship that Dixon handed off to the new guy. Blame Stalling all you want, call him silly names but as was already stated in the past week Stalling’s true test will be the guys he brings in and what he does with them. Guess it is always easier to be critical of others before they have a chance and don’t tell me this past year showed he could or couldn’t coach based on the weak cast of characters that Dixon left. H2P!!!!!!!

Comment by Bruce F 03.15.17 @ 10:04 am

Pitt was a perennial top 5 team in the mighty Big East. Being top 5 in the ACC, when ND and UVA are doing it, is not unrealistic.

The Stallings hire was a sham under the most nefarious of conditions. Pitt fans have every right to be upset with the hire and demand more.

If anything I’m overly optimistic yet what’s happened to the basketball program is downright disgrace. Barnes thought he was smarter than Pitt fans and crumbled when BS was called.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.15.17 @ 10:08 am

BruceF – I think everyone agrees that Dixon left the program in bad shape as a result of many years of recruiting failures. I don’t think anyone (well, there’s always one…) would disagree with you on that. BUT, Stallings under-achieved with a team had 5 senior starters, publicly threw his team under the bus, and finished off the season by cursing out a player instead of showing some concern for an injured Jeter. And if that’s not enough, I think 17 years of sub-mediocrity warrants at least some level judgment from which to project forward. And hey, I’m not even saying I won’t give the guy another chance and root for him next year, but when a guy is making over $2M a year and has left behind a bit of a mess in his wake, I think a little judgment is more than fair. And I will say it again, to date, the guy has made Gallagher look foolish. The only way to salvage that is with corrective action.

Comment by 1618mt 03.15.17 @ 10:59 am

Sorry, 4 senior starters, I think.

Comment by 1618mt 03.15.17 @ 10:59 am


I’m 1.5 hrs north of Pittsburgh, so, no I’m not Barney!

Just a realistic pitt fan, I know there’s not a lot of us out there but I’m one of them

Comment by Keith 03.15.17 @ 11:21 am

I just make pitt fans feel uncomfortable cuz I call them out

Pitt fans are very fragile, unrealistic, and very few fan base

Until pitt decides to invest and be a player with the rest of the big boys, we are who we are …so we have to deal with who we are, I’ve accepted who we are….

The first step is acceptance!

Doesn’t make it any easier, but that who we are

Comment by Keith 03.15.17 @ 11:29 am

isnt that like, “they were who we thought they were”??
i agree keith, people like to think pitt hoops is like kentucky. we have never won anything but what 2 conference tournaments? dixon was also known to be a choker in the tournement..never beating a higher seed. the coaching search was nefarious yes, and like most on this board have stated, we should expect better.

Comment by goalie44 03.15.17 @ 12:17 pm

yea right wbb

You have the Golden State Warriors in ultra PC San Francisco, to the point of lunacy.

So it’s alright there in loony land, but not at Marquette.

So I guess that is saying, the atmosphere at most colleges across America is even more insane than in San Francisco. (and that is really saying something)

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:04 pm

Which is why I’m down to watching only games that involve Pitt.

And that is waning as well. Didn’t watch at least 50% of Pitt bball games this year. I expect that to rise next year, after we lose to Pedo State and Duquesne.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:11 pm

Keith you sound more like a Nitter or Hoopie.

Pitt fans are not fragile at all. This fan base has been thru, a gazillion times more, in terms of having to put up with an inept Pitt administration and for the most part, inept Pitt Athletic Department, in wrecking havoc on both the football and now basketball programs.

And this is some recent thing with football, it’s been going on for decades.

So we are far from fragile, Resilient would be a much better word to describe.

And we are not few, we are many. But unlike most Nitters, who never move out of PA, for the most part….Pitt grads in much more numbers are relocated all over the United States.

We are many, we are just spread out, all across the USA. Like so many that post on here.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:16 pm

^ And this isn’t some recent thing with football, it’s been going on for decades^

There are few fan bases if any, that are more resilient than Pitt’s fan base.

NONE that they have to put up with administration that is as screwed up as Pitt’s. (well maybe Buttgers) (however Buttgers did end up in the BigJoke earning large cash and transformed their football stadium into a pretty good venue, so I guess even with all their problems, you could put them ahead of us, because of their conf. affiliation and the moolah that goes with it.)

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:21 pm

The GOOD news… if I’m not mistaken, Pitt Spring Football starts tomorrow.

Maybe Chas will have something to say about it.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.15.17 @ 1:30 pm

Buttgers however didn’t end up in the BigJoke based on anything they were doing well in their Athletic Dept. Despite the few years it appeared by their record in football that they have achieved a degree of success. For those records were carefully crafted with ridiculous easy non-con schedules to get them to 8 or 9 wins.

As we all know Buttgers only landed in the BigJoke’s Cash Cow, because of their geographic locale and eyeballs in that locale that subscribe to cable tv (more specifically espn/abc).

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:30 pm

Ah the ghost of JD. He’ll be back again in about a year after Stallings (noticed respectful use of “Coach Stallings above, very mannerly) and “his guys” finish out next year. JD will again be branded for his recruiting failures leading to a very inexperienced team. Thus ensuring that Stallings will be supported by die hards through year 3. Hopefully at that point Dixon will finally be off the hook and Stallings will be fully accountable.

For accuracy, Pitt was two time regular season Big East champs under Dixon (2004 and 2011). Pitt was in the Big East tournament championship game in 2004, 2006, 2007 and 2008. Pitt won the tournament in 2008.

Pitt succeeded once in beating a higher seeded team in the NCAA tournament under Dixon. Pitt, a 9 seed, beat Colorado, an 8 seed, by 29 in 2014.

For what it’s worth Stallings has beaten a higher seeded team twice in the NCAA. In 2004 #6 Vanderbilt beat #3 NC State by 2. In 2007 #6 Vanderbilt beat #3 Washington State by 4 in double overtime.

Vanderbilt did not win an SEC regular season title with Stallings as coach. Vanderbilt played in one SEC tourney final under Stallings and won in 2012.

I’m not sure who on this board thinks Pitt is like Kentucky. For what it’s worth even Kentucky isn’t who many seem to think they are. Kentucky has won one championship under Calipari and their previous one was won in 1998. Kentucky didn’t appear in a final four from 1999-2010. Calipari’s 5* recruiting appears to have at least restored the regular final four appearance part of the Kentucky mystique.

Comment by Barvo 03.15.17 @ 1:31 pm

Let’s get the Party started.

link to

Comment by PittofDreams 03.15.17 @ 1:31 pm

I could see why a Nitter/Hoopie fan would want Otis to stay.

All makes sense now :)

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:34 pm

Meanwhile TCU and Vandy fans are likely satisfied with their respective seasons while their new coaches somehow succeeded and probably exceeded expectations without “their guys”.

Comment by Barvo 03.15.17 @ 1:38 pm

Kentucky won in 1996 too and 1978.

And a couple times in the 1950’s.

But they’ve won the SEC….55 times. lol

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:39 pm

The ’96 Kentucky team was coached by one of our favs….Little Ricky !

Pimp of Lexington.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:41 pm

Who relocated to Louisville.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:42 pm

I bet he cleans up at the Tracks over there.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:43 pm

Fringe benefits 😉

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 1:44 pm

Excuse me bravo. They beat a higher seed once. Big deal. Dixon will be able to fool tcu fans for only so long. He will break their hearts eventually

Comment by Goalie44 03.15.17 @ 2:16 pm

Calling student athletes (or athlete-students, whatever) trash is ridiculous. That’s over the top.

Comment by panther94 03.15.17 @ 3:27 pm

Keith I echo and stand by every one of your comments and sentiments. I consider myself a realistic Pitt fan. The grave was dug once Pitt fans were not happy with the sustained success of Dixon and ran him out of town. I almost have tuned out anything regarding basketball because the moaning and groaning about Stallings is so over the top. I get it you don’t like him. Let’s not rewrite history and say the guy is an absolute bum. He may be a below average coach but it is still TBD in my opinion. The only thing I got from this year is like us fans he reached the utter point of frustration because this team did what they wanted and did not care at all. Could he have gone about things differently, no doubt. Watching almost every player leave from this heartless, gutless and uncaring team is the best for everyone. You can continue to whine and spew vitriol at Stallings but really it is not going to change a thing.

Comment by The Ghost of Billy Gaines 03.15.17 @ 3:42 pm

@ghost, pitt fans did not run dixon out of town, he wanted to leave and the university wanted a change as well. His “success” had run its course an was on the way down in the ACC. do you really think the administration listens to the fans anyway??

Comment by goalie44 03.15.17 @ 4:13 pm

The “few” pitt fans is regarding strictly attendance, I know there are a lot of pitt fans, they make a lot of noise on twitter etc..wish they’d show up at Heinz and be as vocal

Comment by Keith 03.15.17 @ 4:43 pm

put a consistent winner on the field, and the fans will show. to bad it has to be at the steeler stadium instead of Pitt Stadium.

Comment by goalie44 03.15.17 @ 5:11 pm

Revis gets out of his trouble scott free. Never underestimate the power of good legal council.

Comment by alcofan 03.15.17 @ 6:20 pm

Keith – Are we SOP? Should we accept that?

Winning will change that. But you need a culture to nurture it. Pitt’s admin has poisoned the soil so much that nothing will grow. I blame the Nitter infiltrated BoT.

Comment by TX Panther 03.15.17 @ 6:39 pm

Lorenzo Romar had a career at UW that was reminiscent of Kevin Stallings at Vanderbilt.

Has Barnes fired Tinkle yet or does he require a year of imparting his basketball wisdom before doing so?

Does Romar have a connection to Todd Turner or Collegiate Sports Associates?

Comment by Barvo 03.15.17 @ 8:12 pm

Herman got a new gig.

And Pitt got Tinkled on.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 8:34 pm

Maybe Barry Alvarez could do the Pitt AD hire.

Since he managed the Pitt football hire and then subsequent leaving of Paulie and all those moving pieces.

Seriously they should contract out Barry.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 8:38 pm

All successful basketball programs go through a few down years but they bounce back. Jamie was experiencing a down period but he knew what the 2016-17 team needed to make the tournament, grad transfers at PG and C. Also Jamie’s magic of RPI on non-con scheduling would have gotten Pitt in the tournament. With Young and Artis graduating Jamie was not going to make the tournament next year. Barnes made Dixon uncomfortable pushing him out. Barnes should have tried to address Jamie’s recruiting problems through staff changes instead of making Jamie leave.
It is rare to find a coach that can coach as Jamie could and recruit as well. Those who can coach usually get recruiting help. Barnes had half a great coach in Jamie and failed to provide the recruiting coaches needed to bring the program back. Jamie would have made the 2017 tournament, failed next season, but could have had the program back in the tournament for 2019. Stallings will be fired before he ever gets the Pitt program back to the tournament, and then another 2 or 3 years of Stallings successor before we have a chance to be in the NCAA tournament.

Comment by Spindler's Spirit 03.15.17 @ 8:53 pm

Dixon was a top 5 paid basketball HC. Pitt tore down a football stadium to erect a basketball arena. Pitt had two #1 seeds in the NCAA’s and reached #1 overall. Pitt was a perennial contender for the regular season championship and BE tournament.

Pitt’s downfall wasn’t commitment. Pitt’s downfall was several missed recruiting classes coupled with losing really good assistants.

The recruiting misses lead to a dearth of leadership. Howland and Dixon had built Pitt thru leadership passed down from generation to generation. How many times did we hear how epic Pitt practices were?

When Blair left early, Dante fizzled, Khem flaked and Kiwi Stevie became a lottery pick, Pitt’s cultural backbone was tested and ultimately gave in. That’s not to mention the immaturity of the Durand Johnson’s and JJ Moore’s. This lead to Pitt forcing kids to step up earlier than they had been required before.

Dixon’s success also lead to a sprouting coaching tree. Slice left to become a HC. So did Herion. Mike Rice and Pat Skerry as well. People forget that Pitt was an assistant mecca for a hot minute. Assistants wanting to take the next step came to Pitt … then SP came back and he stopped giving Dixon a budget to lure top assistants.

Dixon got away from what worked (diamonds in the rough) and he had really good assistants turn over. Dixon just couldn’t get the magic back … Mostly, because the culture that lead to Pitt’s rise had been compromised by players and coaches unexpectedly leaving early, the players and coaches who replaced them not living up to expectations and a lack of what made up the backbone of Pitt’s culture … senior leadership.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to have high expectations for Pitt basketball. I also think it’s a shame Barnes didn’t agree with that statement.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.15.17 @ 9:03 pm

Just seems like Pitt athletics is drifting. Has Gallagher been to any basketball games?

Comment by Tony77019 03.15.17 @ 9:11 pm

Are there any guys in Madison that need ‘on the job’ AD training ?

At Pitt’s expense.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 9:25 pm

The big wig boxes were pretty much vacant in the last 3rd of the season. After the Louisville fiasco.

That should be indication that the ELITES are not happy campers.

Comment by Emel 03.15.17 @ 9:31 pm

Pitt Spring practice opens today… and the Team’s BEST Runningback could be on Defense.

Aliquippa’s Kaezon Pugh, 6-foot-1, 245 pounds, has moved from linebacker to defensive end where Pitt must replace All-ACC selection Ejuan Price…

… ”Narduzzi also pointed out Pugh can play running back, which he did last year in practice on the scout team.

“His ball security is awful, but he can run,” the coach said.

Still believing Pugh will get his chance to show what he can do toting the Rock. Why not?

Comment by PittofDreams 03.16.17 @ 6:14 am

PoD, this past season had to be great for you … all offense and little defense.

Comment by wbb 03.16.17 @ 6:21 am

PoD – I agree with your statement but not the same name.

I believe J.Whitehead is the best RB on the Pitt FB team.

I also think we are deep in talent at the RB position, but Pitt will miss James Conner, not just because of his RB talents, but also because of his leadership skills.

Comment by Erie Express 03.16.17 @ 7:02 am

Blame the lack of Defense on Narduzzi.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.16.17 @ 8:53 am

Good post TT, I agree. Pitt BB is a dumpster fire right now….

Thank God for Narduzzi & FB.

Comment by Jackagain 03.16.17 @ 5:24 pm

I blame both Dixon and Barnes.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.16.17 @ 7:12 pm

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