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November 12, 2016

Open Thread: Death Valley Days

Filed under: Football,Open Thread — Chas @ 10:34 am

3:30 pm, ESPN.

This won’t be the normal open thread intro.

I haven’t had a lot (anything) to say this week about the game today. Mainly due to the fact that I don’t know what to say.

Not in a this team sucks, it always has sucked and always will suck kind of downer. It’s that Pitt right now has a glaring weakness that has not gotten better. That Clemson will completely exploit that weakness. That Clemson is a top team in the country with better players almost across the board to boot. I can’t envision a scenario that leads to a Pitt win.

It’s a frustrating situation, but not necessarily depressing to me.  It’s the frustration of the moment (this season) that requires patience for this team to get better in the longer run. Patience that disappears when the ball is snapped.  When we want the improvement now. When the waiting for the next season in the past years starts weighing heavily. Even if this is only Narduzzi’s second year, as fans we have the years of promises and hopes before that pushing against the need to be patient.

Seeing any steps backwards in the name of progress is normal, just as reacting negatively to is is normal. A season like this taxes the fans. Those moments where everything looks like it start to happen. Then one part is just so much further behind everywhere else. Seemingly dragging everything down.

I know full well that during the game today, I will be full of snark, sarcasm and even a little bitterness about the way Pitt plays at points. About the coaching. About various things.

That doesn’t change my hopes and even beliefs that this team. This program is heading in the right direction. That this staff can do the job. That some of the players on the field or on the sideline today, will not simply have helped build things but be a part of the things we fans desperately want to see.





Pitt’s much maligned D held Clemscum, the #2 team in the country to ZERO points in the 4th qtr to post a come back victory.

Time to bury SOP forever!

Comment by Erie Express 11.13.16 @ 9:47 am

Great game, Clemson fans were in shock, Narduzzi’s sideline presence was great, the Clemson’s head coach not so much.

When it came down to it Clemson couldn’t convert on 4th and 1.

Great and I mean a great win.

Comment by WLAT 910 radio and the big beat! 11.13.16 @ 11:40 am

If I am the Clemson fan I’m all over their coach for doing a running play on the 4th down..they had 33 first downs at that point by the pass, zero first downs by the run.

Great win, Need to win these last three games (bowl game included) and keep this going into the off season..maybe crack top 25 to end season. Then next year we can really talk about ACC Championship and rankings for Pitt.

Comment by milobloom 11.13.16 @ 12:00 pm

You are right milo, that would clean up the front porch nicely!

Comment by Goalie44 11.13.16 @ 12:32 pm

Hats off the consummate Italian Narduzzi who plants a kiss on the cheek of his kicker who then won the game. Great way to pick up the season and generate decent crowds for the final two years.

It’s year two and Narduzzi has two big wins.

Comment by Tony77019 11.13.16 @ 1:36 pm

If PSU can get put into the AP Top 25 after beating OSU, then PITT should also get moved into the AP Top 25 for beating Clemson

link to twitter.com

Comment by Jackagain 11.13.16 @ 2:49 pm

Fantastic Win. The broadcasters must have learned their craft from the media types who kept putting Trump down for a whole year. I think Greasy played at Florida. I have a problem with all the ACC broadcasters and most of the Espn / dudes. For that reason I use the radio with Hillgrove and Billy O. Osborne provides superb technical insight,I think because he was a QB and a wide out in his playing days. Agree with others lets all get behind the team for these last 2 games at Hienz and we can still get an 8/2 regular season and a decent bowl.The team did good the coaching was outstanding.I love Narduzzie’s enthusiasm. Pre season Phil Steele forecast, Pitt 32nd hardest schedule. Finish the season 8/2.

Comment by Pitt60 11.13.16 @ 3:03 pm

Pitt receiving a few votes in the polls – up to 32 in both AP and Coach’s polls.

Some weird aligning going on – the ville jumped to 3 in front of the team they lost to in Clemson at 5. Ohio Fake jumped to 2 and Michigan slipped to 4. The pedos and wvcc at 9 and 10 with Ok State at 13 behind a team they beat in wvcc.

The BIG Joke conference has 4 teams in the top ten with 2 in the top 4. Washington fell below a 2 loss Wisky team after losing for the first time yesterday to USC.

Comment by Erie Express 11.13.16 @ 3:32 pm

Greise won a title at Michigan with Charles Woodson.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 11.13.16 @ 3:44 pm

Ok seems like most everyone is over here today. lol

The Ohio Fake Effect was in full blossom yesterday.

#4 Washington lost
#2 Michigan lost

And of course the YUGE upset of the day #2 Clemson lost.

Can’t believe Pedo State is now up to #9 in AP poll.

Comment by Emel 11.13.16 @ 4:11 pm

The Tarholes got booted out of Top 25 entirely after being #15 last week.

Same with VT after being #18.

ACC is not getting the same respect as other conf’s and I think that’s a given. The conference is pretty strong from Top to Bottom.

Comment by Emel 11.13.16 @ 4:15 pm

Western Kentucky got more votes (11) than Pitt (9) in the AP poll.

What an utter joke.

Comment by Emel 11.13.16 @ 4:17 pm

Maybe I missed it, but silence from the PG’s usual naysayers any time Pitt LOSES a big game.

Cook and Collier.

Comment by Emel 11.13.16 @ 4:25 pm

In fact, all I’m seeing is 1 measly article about the Pitt game on the entire PG Sports page and the entire PG Pitt page.

That is disgraceful, that the supposed hometown newspaper is basically shunning us, after a YUGE win.

What a POS Toilet Paper paper.

Comment by Emel 11.13.16 @ 4:28 pm

I’m rooting for 2 ACC teams in the final four with both winning their first game to set up an all ACC title game.

Clemscum beats Michigan in the 2/3 match-up and the ville beats bama in the 4/1 match-up.

To get there, Clemscum & ville must win out, including Clemscum in the ACC championship game. Michigan beats Ohio Fake and then Wisky by 45 in the Big Joke championship game.

Comment by Erie Express 11.13.16 @ 4:29 pm

According to their own stats, the Most Read Article on the PG Sports page is the sole article on the Pitt game.

People obviously are interested in Pitt and this jackass of a newspaper filled with envious devious creepy Pedo writers and editors do NOT GIVE A DAMN WHAT the people of Pittsburgh and across the nation want.

I can’t tell you how ENRAGED I am, as if we learned nothing else over the last 15 months, we learned how sickening, corrupt and downright evil these Media types are.

Comment by Emel 11.13.16 @ 4:43 pm

Thanks Erie, Pitt-Clemson replay on Root Sports Pittsburgh tonight 9 pm.

Comment by alcofan 11.13.16 @ 5:21 pm

Clemson Linebacker Dorian O’Daniel (#6) took the brunt of Jame Conner’s stiff arms.

I wonder how his neck is feeling today

link to espn.com

Comment by Emel 11.13.16 @ 5:43 pm

TVAx1 – I think the “screamer” you heard was Bill Hargrove’s partner – I think it was Billy Osborne – they were in a neighboring announcer’s booth – I was listening on the radio (the fan 93.7) and the scream was loud.

And yes, it was a fumble and runback by Whitehead.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by 17yearsatpitt 11.13.16 @ 6:28 pm

yes, gc confirmed earlier, thnx 17

Comment by TVax1 11.13.16 @ 6:36 pm

The next two games count. Pitt cant just destroy what they accomplished this game. 8 wins with this schedule would be very good. Not sure what your mean SFPitt. I predicted Clemson like most but also said if the Cubs and Trump could win there was hope. Celestial things are happening right now. And I also think we’re blessed by a certain woman above.

Comment by TX Panther 11.13.16 @ 6:51 pm

Emil at 5:43pm “Clemson Linebacker Dorian O’Daniel (#6) took the brunt of Jame Conner’s stiff arms.”

Mr. O’Daniel was a 4* OLB in HS that had offers from at least 25 P5 schools including Pitt. He is a JR who is rumored to be declaring for the 2017 NFL draft.

Let’s keep that in mind when the discussion of Conner’s NFL future comes up again.

Comment by Erie Express 11.13.16 @ 7:12 pm

TX
Your first post was that the “nation gets to see Pitt get embarrassed” and “great PR Barnes.” Your post at 12:10.
That was no simple prediction of getting beat. In fact the opposite was true.

Comment by SFPitt 11.13.16 @ 8:13 pm

Just watched two future opponents of Pitt,Penn State 82 Duqusne 74. Both teams look much improved. Penn St with those 3 bigtime Philly freshmen.

Comment by alcofan 11.13.16 @ 8:18 pm

I really thought Pitt would get embarrassed and be SOP. But these are strange times indeed. So Pitt had a 8% chance of winning and they did. Glad they didnt choke or Pitt like they normally do on national TV. Nard Dog must of met Jesus before the game.

Comment by TX Panther 11.13.16 @ 8:29 pm

The win over Clemson could very well be a season saving game. Pitt will need to take care of business against Duke. Despite their record they are no pushover. They’ve played a lot of people tough including Virginia Tech and just beat North Carolina on Saturday.

Comment by Justinian 11.13.16 @ 10:31 pm

TX
You make Eddie Haskell look like a stand up guy. Instead of giving credit, you itemize the insults you aren’t going to make (but do) and belittle an accomplishment. As the expression goes, with friends like you, Pitt doesn’t need any enemies. SIP? NAH…POS? In every sense.

Comment by SFPitt 11.14.16 @ 2:57 am

I just speak the facts. I must be too much like Trump for you.

Comment by TX Panther 11.14.16 @ 8:35 am

The AP has always been the shit poll because its all media types. The coaches poll is better and the Bowl Championship committee is all that counts now plus there are computerized polls that embaress the AP poll.

Comment by Pitt60 11.14.16 @ 11:17 am

@tx
I always enjoy your posts and I would never question your allegiance. People get upset when you don’t think the way they do

Comment by Goalie44 11.14.16 @ 12:44 pm

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