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May 31, 2016

One of the more intriguing and anticipated recruits who will land on the Southside in early August is George Hill.  He is a 6’0″ 205# ATH and has earned his bona fides on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball.

There is a real benefit in recruiting high school football players who are listed as “ATH” (labeled as such for an unspecified position he would play in college ball).  Foremost it implies the kid is so good he can play multiple positions well which is always a good thing.

The website Bleacher Report defines the ATH label by this:

“In recruiting, you’ll often see a recruit be labeled “ATH” by some publications, as this means “athlete.”

Yes, all these players are true athletes and have athletic ability, but we mean differently when they have the “ATH” tag as their position.

This means the recruit is such a versatile player that he can do so many things, and that anywhere is possible where he lines up. It’s a tag for us evaluators that kind of tells the college coaches, “You guys decide, because this guy can play an array of spots.”

So 4* George Hill from Hubbard, OH, has been hung with that designation and in this instance it fits and is a plus.  That’s because we may need Hill more on defense than we do at RB.  Here is how he ended up at Pitt:

George Hill of Hubbard, Ohio, moved on from his Ohio State commitment about a month ago.   In the time since, everyone felt it was a foregone conclusion that Hill was going to end up with his former high school teammate L.J. Scott at Michigan State.

That didn’t happen.  On Friday, Hill announced his decision to commitment to Pitt over Michigan State at his high school. 

Hill was once part of a running back trio in Ohio State’s 2016 recruiting class that also included four-star prospect Kareem Walker of Wayne (N.J.) DePaul and four-star prospect Damario McCall of North Ridgeville, Ohio.

McCall is the only one of those three prospects remaining in Ohio State’s class.  Walker committed to Michigan on Thursday, and then Hill picked Pitt the day after.

Well, he did jump around a bit there didn’t he? I wonder if it was because 1) OSU recruiting more good RBs and Hill felt crowded and/or 2) Narduzzi told him he could play defensive back when he got to Pitt.  I suspect it is the latter because Narduzzi has said as much.

As for the talent and skills that are factored into the ATH label here are Hill’s from a MaXpreps recruiting scout’s chart:

Skills:  Build  7.00 out of 10;  Speed  7.00;  Feet  8.00;  Change of Direction 8.00 ;  Explosiveness 7.00;  Power 7.00;  Tackle Breaking  7.00; Vision  8.00.

However, Hill made his name in HS playing on offense where he did this:

YR Class GP Rush Yards YPC YPG Long 100+ TDs
15-16 Senior (Missed 5 games) 8 109 1006 9.2 125.8 83 5 12
14-15 Junior 13 100 1106 11.1 85.1 79 5 13
13-14 Sophomore 13 100 1175 11.8 90.4 80 15
12-13 Freshman 4 10 120 12.0 30.0 55

Regardless of those RB numbers Hill himself wants top be on the defensive side of the ball. That last bit may be the most important thing for Pitt and Hill in the long run.  We know that for the 2016 season we have Conner and Ibrahim returning, Ollision did well hid true FR season and Darrin Hall and newcomer Chawntez Moss looks to have a future also.  Those are a lot of RBs to rise through to get playing time as a rookie.

But on the defensive side of the ball the path to the two-deep maybe easier.  Here is the “2016 Positions Outlook” of the defensive backfield as listed in the 2016 Spring Prospectus: (BTW – it’s not a bad idea to read through this publication to get ready to really start discussing Pitt football before camp start so you don’t sound like an idiot!  See… who has your back?)

SECONDARY

Pitt welcomes back a veteran nucleus in its secondary.  At strong safety, Jordan Whitehead was one of college football’s high-impact newcomers last year. Whitehead led the Panthers with 109 stops, the most by a true freshman in school history. He was named the ACC’s Rookie of the Year, becoming the first defensive player to earn that honor in nearly two decades. 

Sophomore Dennis Briggs will provide competitive depth behind Whitehead after lettering as a corner last season. Also in the mix at the strong spot will be redshirt freshman Rimoni Dorsey and junior Rob Boatright.

Pitt has a luxury at free safety with the return of seniors Reggie Mitchell and Terrish Webb. Both players are proven commodities from both an experience and playmaking standpoint.  Also competing at the free will be redshirt freshman Jay Stocker.

At boundary cornerback, junior Avonte Maddox led Pitt with three interceptions and 12 pass breakups last year. Maddox has played in every game the past two seasons, making 19 consecutive starts. Senior Ryan Lewis, a three year letterman, provides veteran depth. At field corner, Lafayette Pitts is gone after making an incredible51 starts during his career.

Sophomore Phillipie Motley will look to fill the void after lettering as a backup last season. Motley will contend with a pair of redshirt freshmen, Malik Henderson and Dane Jackson.

What do we already know about those mentioned,and those not mentioned, like 4* Damar Hamlin?  For one Manny Stocker is now, cross your fingers here, our QB2 going into fall camp.  So drop him off Hill’s competition list.

If indeed Hill is going into camp as a DB he is really only competing with Lewis, Motley, Henderson and Jackson… and Damar Hamlin apparently, as Avonte’ Maddox will retain that starting position for 2016.  IMO Lewis and Motley can be beat out. Henderson and Jackson havn’t seen the field yet since they redshirted last year so the staff will evaluate those two alongside Hamlin and Hill as prospective two-deep players.

Perhaps the best route to seeing the field in ’16 would be for Hill to slide over to the Safety position.  I think that if any position on defense is well suited for a RB to transition to Safety is it.  The skill set is much the same and the vision has to be that sharp also.  We know Whitehead has a lock on his position but right now the plans are to have Dennis Briggs move over and , as stated above, provide depth there.

With star player SO Jordan Whitehead, SR Terrish Webb in there along with  rsSO Dennis Briggs, and Reggie Mitchell, both from perennial powerhouse Shadyside Academy,  it will be tough to get an elbow in there to make room for himself but if he’s as good as advertised that may well happen.

More on recruiting – Pitt is currently ranked 51st in the nation for the 2017 recruiting class.

Here is a piece in the City Paper by Mike Wysocki talking about Pittsburgh’s sports teams’s mascots:

“It’s almost impossible not to love mascots. They’re fun, furry, gregarious and have an incurable optimism. People who don’t like them probably don’t like America either. Mascots serve as team cheerleaders and temporary babysitters for kids and even add enjoyment to the game. Our city has plenty of sports mascots ranging from the beloved to the kind of annoying. So as you take in a game of any sport this year, here is a rundown of our city’s finest, sorted by age.

Roc the Pitt Panther. Although he adopted the name Roc in the 1990s, the Pitt Panther is the oldest of the Pittsburgh mascot fraternity. He began his career in 1909, so his enthusiasm for all Pitt sports is even more remarkable considering he is 107 years old. Roc was named after Steve Petro, a former student and coach, not the short-lived TV series starring Charles S. Dutton, just to clear up any potential confusion.”





A “well-timed” article.

However, a correction is in order.

George Hill has specifically requested the opportunity to play Runningback… and Narduzzi has reluctantly obliged.

Hill is OK with Defense, but he first wants to chance to show what he can do at this level with the Ball in his hands.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.31.16 @ 7:48 am

PoD – can you show me that source? If so I’ll take the article down (Dammit!)

Comment by Reed 05.31.16 @ 7:57 am

Some other corrections are also needed for the ratings posted by Maxpreps.

As I posted yesterday, Hill has considerably UPPED his 100 Meter time from of a year ago.

Hill has now run a 10.6, the THIRD Fastest time this year in the State of Ohio… and this is a VERY fast year for H.S. Sprinters in the Buckeye State.

The only two Kids ahead of Hill are really Tracksters… not so much Football Players.

To put the significance of a 10.6 in a little more perspective… it is exactly equal to the BEST time of former Parade All-American Runningback Brian Davis who played at Pitt.

It is also just about a tenth of a second off of what would have been Tony Dorsett’s BEST time in the 100 Meters if you equate it to the 100 yard dash times Dorsett has posted through the years.

Maxpreps rating of 7.00 for both Speed and Explosiveness does NOT really do George Hill justice.

He is both FAST and EXPLOSIVE.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.31.16 @ 8:04 am

Reed… the source is Narduzzi himself.

Listen to the video shot on Signing Day when George Hill was talking with Narduzzi after his fax came in.

Narduzzi is heard acknowledging Hill’s wish to carry the Football and promptly hands the phone off to Runningback’s Coach Andre Powell.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.31.16 @ 8:10 am

By the way, Kaezon Pugh is also on the record saying Narduzzi has agreed to let him try Runningback if he wants to.

Not a surprise really. What Kid wouldn’t prefer to play Runningback if they believed they had the ability to do so?

Same goes for Wideout versus D-Back.

It’s always pretty much been that way. Not in all cases, but most from my experience.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.31.16 @ 8:13 am

A really nice problem to have. Maybe he plays defense this year and moves to RB when Conner and Ibrahim graduate.

Narduzzi definitely needs more talent and speed on D right now.

We will have to see if Hill can take a hit and give a hit at this level. He certainly wasn’t touched in that highlight film. A man among boys.

Comment by gc 05.31.16 @ 8:49 am

Thanks foe another great article, Reed.

Quick correction for you – Manny Stocker is our QB2 at the moment. Jay Stocker is still in the secondary and received some pretty nice reviews from the coaching staff last year (mostly on the scout team).

I believe Manny and Jay are brothers.

Comment by JAM05Pitt 05.31.16 @ 9:07 am

All good positive things to hear.Nice for a change. Narduzzie’s efforts starting to pay off.

Comment by Pitt60 05.31.16 @ 9:42 am

Correct JAM05PITT, Manny actually played QB at NC State a couple of years ago under OC Canada

Sleeper … do not overlook incoming FR CB Theran Coleman. Yes, Hamlin would likely be the favorite for most PT but don’t be surprised if Coleman gets his share

Comment by wbb 05.31.16 @ 9:43 am

OK Guys – I made the Stocker correction.

PoD – Hmmm, I don’t care what Narduzzi told Hill on signing day. When fall camp breaks I bet Hill’s on the defensive side of the ball. Narduzzi puts kids where he wants them – not where they want to play as evidenced by O’Neill’s move to the OL from TE, Ziese’s move to LB from WR and recently Stocker’s move from DB to QB. Those kids’ first reactions were that they wanted to stay where they were but Narduzzi said “Go forth and playth ball the way your leader trusts you to”.

We need both DBs and LBs in the future and HCPN tells both Hill and Pugh they can carry the ball?

I’ll not hold my breath for that my friend – we have very good talent in front of both those kids at RB.

22 Darrin Hall 5-11/215 RB SO Youngstown, Ohio/Austintown Fitch
24 James Conner 6-2/240 RB RS JR Erie, Pa./McDowell
26 Chawntez Moss 5-11/195 RB FR Bedford, Ohio/Bedford
29 Rachid Ibrahim 6-1/195 RB RS JR Rockville, Md./Avalon
37 Qadree Ollison 6-2/230 RB RS SO Niagara Falls, N.Y./Canisius H.S.

Comment by Reed 05.31.16 @ 9:44 am

When Narduzzi has a stockpile of linebackers and d linemen, like he has in running backs, we will start winning 10 games a year.

Comment by gc 05.31.16 @ 10:02 am

I agree that Hill would be better off, and the team, with him on defense. Given that he is a 4 star I think he will be given a chance to see the level of competition at the RB position then decide with a push. Of course if he blows the other RBs away, Narduzzi may have to go along. It shall be one of the more interesting stories at camp on offense, along with backup QB search.

Comment by rkb 05.31.16 @ 11:36 am

Hill will be on defense this year. There is only one football and 3 downs ( maybe) on offense. Having 43,running backs does no one any good. Defense needs to be shored up for us to even compete with the difficult schedule we have. We need speed and toughness at every position but Whireheads! Next year a different story.

Comment by Dan 72 05.31.16 @ 12:40 pm

Whitehead had no problem taking his 4 stars to the defense last year. And I don’t think anyone would say that he didn’t make a name for himself in doing so. And as I previously posted, “IF” Conner returns to the team in 2014 form there won’t be many others getting the chance to take the handoff from Peterman this year.

Comment by jrnpitt 05.31.16 @ 12:50 pm

As long as there is a healthy James Conner in the Backfield, I really don’t care who the Backups are sitting the bench.

That aside… George Hill does NOT carry the Ball like a D-Back or an “ATH.”

Hill runs the football like a Runningback. He has really good lean, great vision and the rare ability to recognize a seam in the Defense and get there and through it very quickly.

The only questions I have about him playing Runningback are his toughness and ability to break tackles.

These are two things Narduzzi and Powell both demand of their Runningbacks… and I don’t see them getting answered by his H.S. Highlights.

However, Hill’s ability to run to daylight and run away from Defenders unlike any Pitt Runningback in a long, LONG time… are not in question.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.31.16 @ 1:17 pm

PoD – I saw a little of what you are talking about with Hill in J.Whitehead last year. One difference is that JW is 5’11” – 185# and Hill is 6′ – 205#.

JW will stay on D and Hill may play both ways this year. Can a 6′ – 205# speed demon replace “Freeze” at the Star LB spot or is he too small?

Just asking…

Comment by Erie Express 05.31.16 @ 2:19 pm

Can Hill be a KR/PR?

Comment by HbgFrank 05.31.16 @ 4:09 pm

Want to guess who the College Football News (Rich Cirminiello) picked as their ACC Team That Will Surprise? A hint: “If Pat Narduzzi can guide Pitt to eight wins and the brink of a Coastal Division crown in his debut, what can he achieve now that he’s had a year to plant roots? Win the Coastal, that’s what… If the receivers can collaboratively replace Tyler Boyd’s production, this team has 10-win potential for the first time as an ACC member.” link to collegefootballnews.com

Comment by DionJag 05.31.16 @ 5:32 pm

Pod – you still on here?? How bout this solution for yourGeorge Hill dilemma: let Hill become our featured back, and move JC to LB to shore up that position?

I’ll bet even the Stiller’s couldn’t resist a Pitt LB – 240 lbs, 4.5 40, great lateral moves, and hits like a bulldozer. Think about it!! Or, GH could be a DB?

Comment by Savannah Panther 05.31.16 @ 7:37 pm

What a terrible problem we have with George Hill!!!
A legitimate OSU recruit that is so good we don’t know what to do with him. Please Duze, keep bringing us problems like George Hill

Comment by pittman4ever 05.31.16 @ 8:29 pm

You can never have enough good RB’s.

How soon we forget, last year we lost Connor and Ibrahim and we were playing first year players like Ollison (redshirt) and Hall (true) for most of the carries.

And with that type of speed, Hill could not only be good, he could be a great RB.

If Ohio State recruited him as a RB, that suggests to me he should play RB.

If Hamlin is as good as they say, he will be on the one side, Maddox on the other.

Hill looks like can catch passes as well, so he could also play some sort of WB position in the slot(provide the reverse plays that Boyd did), if Conner comes back strong. Hall I was not that impressed with, to be honest. Ollison was impressive, but has nowhere the speed of what Hill looks like he has.

We shall see, good problem to have.

Comment by Emel 05.31.16 @ 9:00 pm

Losing James Conner in game #1 last year had a profound effect on the season. While some deem the 8 win rookie season for HCPN a success, I see Pitt winning 2 or 3 more games with Conner.

Iowa (possibly, because NP would not have shown his arm as much)
UNC (worst run D we faced all year, yet we chose to pass in this game)
Miami (momentum and confidence would have been a factor if the previous two games were in the win column – much more at stake)

At the end of last season, we may have had a Heisman candidate and looking at a top tier bowl game.

Dreaming for that kind of season can be right in front of us.

Wherever G.Hill fits on this team and can contribute, our staff will need to make the right call. We need depth on both sides of the ball, and like J.Whitehead, I believe G.Hill is a special player.

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 06.01.16 @ 4:16 am

The depth is needed on D, but you also have Hamlin and Coleman coming in and they are strictly DBs. Plus two or three redshirt freshman.

The current depth chart doesn’t matter at RB or DB. If a freshman comes in that is better, he plays. As Whitehead did.

Maybe Moss or Hall end up on D. Connor, Ollison and Ibraham are the only RBs that will not be moved at this point.

Pugh is a LB all the way.

Comment by notrocketscience 06.01.16 @ 6:40 am

Don’t forget Henry Miller, another big d-back.

If five or six of the freshman really contribute this year will help in the win column.

Last year only one guy was a major contributor.

This yer there are a bunch of guys that could make big plays.

Comment by gc 06.01.16 @ 7:09 am

The only incoming freshman who is likely to contribute in a large way is Hamlin, and he probably won’t start against Villanova. This is due to the loss of Pitts. The majority of the others are in for a redshirt, some will see limited action.

Comment by Grizzly1 06.01.16 @ 7:22 am

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