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April 7, 2016

Spring Practice #11

Filed under: Football,Media,Players — Reed @ 9:15 pm

Before we get into this next video let’s review which numbers our five QBs are wearing:

#3 – Ben DiNucci;   #4 – Nate Peterman;   #7 – Adam Bertke;   #8 – Manny Stocker;  and #15- Ryan Adzima.  That’s our Murder’s Row going coming out of spring practices in a week.  I post those because Pitt has a nice 2+ minute video highlighting our new OC Matt Canada working with the QBs and WRs.

The Trib’s Jerry DiPaola has a good piece on the receivers and as always we are left wondering if this is (finally) Jester Weah’s year to establish himself as a D1 quality football player.  Read it and weep because this part jumps right out at you.

Even football — a sport he never tried until he was a sophomore — came easily enough that he was ranked the No. 2 wide receiver in the state by two scouting services. Over his first two seasons as a football player, he averaged 20 yards per catch.

Yet, as he prepares to enter his fourth season at Pitt, Weah still hasn’t caught a pass, unable to effectively mix his imposing size (6-foot-3, 210 pounds) with his impressive speed.

Perhaps, his hands haven’t worked as well as his feet, but he said the problem lies elsewhere.

“It’s all in my head,” he said.

“All….In…. My…. Head….”  Oh man, Weah’s had The Yips for three straight friggin’ years.  You just know that somewhere Steve Blass is reading the newspaper and shivering.

The sad thing is that Canada very much likes the deep passing game (Yugoslavia isn’t too enamored by it though) and if Nate “The Great” Peterman can use Weah’s flying downfield speed out there it could really help us in that area.

I do think this could be Weah’s year. He’s talented in every way save that one thing that has held him back… which unfortunately for wide receiver is the main thing they need to do. I don’t know if he’ll break into the two deep but I think it would be great for him if he could.  At any rate I think we’ll see some exciting plays out of him and you have to give it to the kid for sticking in there and sucking up his fears to try to get playing time.

Later in this article you’ll read Narduzzi talking about how the 2015 offense (and the OC Jim Chaney by inference) held back on the deep passing game. That will change in ’16 and I look forward to it. Peterman, even though fans don’t want to believe it, has a strong arm and can throw deep with pretty good accuracy.  To get ready to write about spring ball a  few weeks ago I went back and reviewed the games that I still had on the DVR or could find online and saw that in those games he hit on over 60% of the called deep routes (by my calculations).

Chaney just didn’t send that many deep plays into the huddle and some of Peterman’s deep completions came when he went through checking his receivers and then used his safety throw to go deep at a receiver who had cut off his shorter route and went into a ‘up’ or a ‘post’ pattern.

Will we see great strides in production from him this season?  Probably not aside from the progression that QBs normally have when they are in their second starting year. I do think we’ll see Canada call a different passing game and Peterman’s numbers will improve because of it. How much no one knows.

In my opinion that has to happen because I’m still not sold that our run game is going to be all that great this season or even better than last year given the harder schedule.

Conner may or may not get back to his 2014 level and as much as we really liked and appreciated Ollison’s nice contributions last year (1,211 yards on 212 carries; a good 5.28 ypc and 11 TDs) our run game was still ranked only 44th nationally with an average of 186.8 ypg.  It broke down like this: 2,429 yards on 509 carries for a 4.77 ypc average with 19 TDs.  Those are pretty pedestrian numbers all around.

The drawback here is that our passing game didn’t really make up the difference for an average running game. Until the last two games of the season Peterman was very efficient and successful in passing the ball as he had 18 TDs to 4 INTs and we were sitting at 8-3 on the season. It truly looked like we could end the season on a high note and really celebrate.

Then, after a great outing against Louisville where he went 22/34 (65%) for 232 yards with 4 TDs and 0 INTs, he crapped the bed in the last game of the regular season against ACC opponent Miami. He followed that by playing very poorly in our bowl game against Navy where he had 4 INTs against only 2 TDs.

When the final whistle of 2015 blew we found ourselves sitting at 99th in our Passing Offense with 190.6 ypg; 82nd in Total Offense at 377.5 ypg and 68th in Scoring Offense at 28.2 ppg.  Friends, 28.2 ppg doesn’t really cut it when at the same time you are giving up 26.1 ppg (57th nationally).

Things have to turn around for ’16 if we want to maintain a winning record against a much harder non-conference schedule and I believe if we can get that passing game opened up downfield we’ll make the RBs job that much easier… at least in theory, right?

One of our readers and a message board maven, “Imma Man! I’m 40!” is clairvoyant and sees the future pretty damn well.  Not long after I’mma posts this comment on The Blather:

So, which is it:

1. Pitt isn’t a good judge of talent when it comes to evaluating high school QBs?

2. Pitt isn’t good at developing decent prospects into serviceable or better D-1 QBs?

or 3. Some combination of the two?

It seems to me we have plenty of QBs on scholarship. It’s disconcerting that few if any not named Peterman can play….

…then Chris Peak comes out with a very interesting hour long podcast talking about college sports recruiting and Pitt football in general along with interviews with Nate Peterman and RB Rachid Ibrahim.

For those of you sick of all the gabbing about the poor situation we have at the back-up QB spot maybe you should skip this.  But don’t, if you do you’ll miss one of the best takes on how recruiting affects college football and basketball teams.  Very good stuff.

Pitt Spring Practice #11
April 7, 2016

 VIDEO LINK: Offensive Coordinator Matt Canada Feature

PDF LINK: 2016 Pitt Spring Football Guide

 Coach Pat Narduzzi Quote Sheet

Opening statement:

“Practice number 11 is done. We’re near the end today. Guys came out in shorts today. It was the first time we went with what we call shells—helmets and shoulder pads. We’ll probably do it again next Tuesday and Thursday because we really thought the guys came out with a great attitude and maturity with what we call upwards of shells. It was a really enthusiastic practice. We got a two minute, we got the last two plays of the game locked in today, which were rocket plays and victory plays. There was some more teaching today, but overall it was another successful practice.”

On ratcheting down the physicality of practice late in spring ball:

“You get after it after 10 [practices], and we got after it last Saturday and we’re going to get after it again. Really, I wanted to get after it on Saturday, so you’ve got to taper it down a bit. You’re always short in numbers in spring. It’ll be nice when we add 25 more [players] in August, but you’re always short numbers and guys are going to get banged up, but nothing serious.”

“A lot of times the mentality is that, when you go shells, the guys come out and think we’re playing soccer out here and we’re really not. So usually you get that. Everybody starts to play down, guys start to loaf around. And that’s what I talked to them prior to practice about—learning about how to play in shells because they like to go out there like that. Everybody likes to wear shorts. We can get the same work done. There’s not limited contact. We’re not just trying to tackle everyone to the ground. We’re trying to stay up. And it really helps our guys understand that we don’t have full pads on, so try to stay up. So I think maybe 15 guys fell to the ground today, which is good because you have less guys banged up that way.”

“There shouldn’t be a difference [between full pads and shells] except there’s a freshness. I think it’s more of a mental thing for these guys. When I told them we’re going out in shorts today, they got all excited. It’s a mental change, but it shouldn’t be a physical change. It’s a mental one.”

On tight end Chris Clark’s health status:

“Chris Clark will probably be out the rest of spring but there’s only four days to go. He’ll be ready after spring ball to work out.”

On overall improvement of quarterback Nathan Peterman this spring:

“I think he’s a lot more decisive with where he’s trying to throw the ball. I think Coach [Matt] Canada has changed his throwing motion as well. I think, fundamentally, he’s probably a little bit better. He’s so locked in and focused with what he’s trying to do. He’s always in there watching practice tape and watching his iPad. He’s a leader and he’s really locked into his offense. I’m excited for what he can do.”

On Peterman’s statistical production last year:

“He didn’t have the big plays. He threw a lot of intermediate short throws. But that comes with the type of offense you have. I think he’ll throw it a little deeper this year. That’s something we want to do, to stretch the defense a little bit. We just need a few more deep balls…It also goes with the scheme and what you’re trying to do.”

On assessing reserve quarterbacks in anticipation of spring game draft:

“I don’t think it’s going to be assessed but the players are going to get drafted. I’m sure Nathan [Peterman] will go on one team as probably a first-round draft choice. He’ll be drafted by the [player] coaches. It’ll be a coin toss. Then the other quarterbacks will get drafted that day. It’ll be interesting to see who the next quarterback to be drafted by a team will be when they get that choice. They’ll be on two different teams, but the other quarterbacks will get a snap, some more than others. It depends on the coach.”

On cornerback Avonte Maddox’s spring improvement:

“[Avonte has improved] probably more from a leadership standpoint. Lafayette [Pitts] was a leader, he really was. He did a good job. He was the cowbell of the secondary. I think Avonte, as well as Reggie [Mitchell] and Terrish Webb could take that over. We’ll see what happens.”

On Avonte Maddox, Ryan Lewis and Phillipie Motley competing at corner:

“There are still those three rotating with the ones mainly to keep them fresh. But Ryan Lewis has the upper hand [for the spot opposite of Maddox]. We’ll continue to evaluate. It changes daily. And we have some freshmen coming in that we’re excited about.”

On how the young corners are developing and responding to competition:

“They’re going to find out every day. It’s pass skelly. There’s no pass rush. The quarterback isn’t hanging out back there with the ball. I think that always changes, but you’ll find out during practices. We’ve had 11 days to find out, if a guy gets beat, how does he come back? Does he have his head down or does he wipe it off and play the next play? That’s something that you learn there. I think all of our corners understand that there’s going to be those days where we give up one. Just come back. Spring ball is different. The spring game is going to be a little different. Everyone is watching. ‘Are you embarrassed?’ and all of those things. There’s a lot more pressure September 3 and September 10 than there is right now.”

Wide Receivers Coach Kevin Sherman Quote Sheet

On his coaching focus during spring:

“It’s to get these guys to make more explosive plays. We’re getting there, getting two, getting three, but we’re kind of hit or miss on that. We need to make more explosive plays. The one word I keep talking about is consistency, but we’re getting better. Through 11 practices, I think we saw today how much we’ve improved. We’ve had some injuries and guys who’ve needed to step up and as a result they’re seeing themselves on video. I think they’re getting better.”

On Dontez Ford and Zach Challingsworth being limited this spring:

“You want your best 11 on the field and you want your experienced guys to be out there getting reps and helping those younger guys. There’s a guy like Tre Tipton who is getting a lot of reps and seeing himself on video. He gets to see if he can make those plays and do it with some consistency. He’s getting better. We have got to get mentally tougher and get physically tougher and overcome those injuries.”

On which players have made impressions this spring:

“Quadree Henderson is playing fast right now and is looking good. I think last year helped him in the fall, I think he knows how to practice now and how to play in game situations and stepping up and making plays. He’s getting better. Jester Weah continues to get better. Is he consistent all the time? No. But, I’ll tell you he’s getting better. The confidence is starting to come and once we get [Dontez] Ford back that’ll take some pressure off of him.”

On Jester Weah:

“His ball skills are getting better and he has to continue to work on those things. In those competitive situations, 50-50 balls, they have to turn into 80-20 balls our way. We saw him make two big plays on Saturday and then he comes out at Tuesday’s practice and he only makes one. You can’t leave the ball on the ground and in big-play situations we have to make those explosive plays. With not having Tyler Boyd we have to do it by committee now, and people have to step up and make plays.”

On Weah’s speed and size:

“Yeah, it can be intimidating for cornerbacks with that combination. Last year, he only played sparingly. Now he’s getting a lot more reps and is playing better. He has Saturday’s scrimmage to showcase and see if he can do that on a consistent basis. He needs to step up. With speed and size, that’s God-given talent, I can’t coach that. We can put you into the position to make plays but you have to make them.”

On Rafael Araujo-Lopes:

“He’s adding depth at the slot position. He’s a smart kid, doing a lot of things and is conscientious. The thing I like about him is he’s willing to learn. He’s another guy that hasn’t played a whole lot of football in the previous years. This spring is big and I think we’re looking for guys that can step up and be role players. The more guys we can have step up and be role players, the better we’ll be in the fall.”

On running back Rachid Ibrahim in the passing game:

“I like what the running backs are doing because we can split them out and get into some spread sets. I can’t speak for [running backs] Coach [Andre] Powell, only for a receiver standpoint. Once we get into those spread formations, the more guys we can have learning more positons the better off we’ll be. We’re getting better and have four or five more practices to finish the spring strong.”

On Tre Tipton:

“I think the thing we’re finding out is he has to work through things, from a mental and physical standpoint. He’s pushed through so far and has done good things. We just have to do it consistently. I think this spring and summer will be big for Tre and these guys to get chemistry with the quarterbacks and learn the system. Just continue to learn.”

Wide Receiver Tre Tipton Quote Sheet

On the extra reps he’s received:

“Right now everybody is getting the opportunities. We’re all getting reps with the injuries we’ve had on the receiving squad. Right now we’re just trying to push as hard as we can and be fast, and we’re working at it. I think we’re good.”

On his improvement from last year:

“Yeah, I’m definitely better than I was last year. I feel like I’m paying attention more to the defense. That aspect of it, you can see how the defense moves and their coverage, and have to understand that from the backfield so you don’t take the timing away from the quarterback. I feel like I’m learning that more so than anything. In my freshman year I feel like I had an issue with that and not looking at the coverage but I think I’m getting better at it.”

On the biggest challenge of college football:

“I think the biggest challenge of college is trying to find different ways to stay healthy. In high school it’s different because the speed of the game is understood. Once you get here, the speed is different. You need to find different ways to stay healthy. That’s the biggest transition.”

On being a product of a smaller school in Apollo-Ridge:

“Once you get here it doesn’t really matter where you’re from or what you did in high school. Where you’re high school is, that’s nice and dandy but once you get here it’s all about business. Everyone is given a fair shot whether you went to Pittsburgh Central Catholic or a smaller school like Apollo. I don’t think it matters. They’re going to test you on how well you can actually play and at the end of the day it’s your choice on how bad you want it and how you play.”

On making his hometown proud:

“Without a doubt, I think about it every day. That’s my hometown [Apollo]. I want to make them proud and make sure they have someone to look up to. To make sure that the thing they’re looking up to is not doing something wrong. I’ve been busting my butt for them and I hope they’re watching.”

On running backs as receiving targets:

“The system is set up for everyone to get the ball. At some point in time everybody is going to get the opportunity to show out and make plays. At the end of the day when you’re number is called you have to make those plays. It’s about us winning as many games as we possibly can this upcoming season. If they feel like they need to put someone out there in order to score and to win, then we’re going to do that. We’re going to push each other to make sure that the job gets done.”

Wide Receiver Jester Weah Quote Sheet

On working to be a better receiver:

“With all the work I have been putting in, I feel like I can do anything. I’m working at it and keeping my confidence up.”

On starting to play football in high school:

“I first started playing organized football my sophomore year and didn’t start playing varsity until my junior year.”

On what he did during the winter to prepare for this season:

“After every workout and during every winter workout I would be on the JUGS, catching at least 100 balls a day and working with the equipment managers.”

On what he is doing now outside of practice:

“In my free time I try to work with Nate [Peterman], whether it’s watching film or if it’s getting extra work in on the field.”

On Tyler Boyd’s relationship on him:

“He helps me in each and every way. I text him here and there. He always tells me to, ‘Go get it. Just work.’ If I keep my grind up, I can be there and it can happen.”

Here is a Tyler Boyd podcast from the Trib that slide under my radar.  It was recorded on the 5th…





I like Nate Peterman but if he doesn’t increase his arm speed
and ability to quickly unload the ball, he will only be average.
The longer he played this year, the slower his release got.
Know Mr Canada is working hard on it. Sept 10th getting closer.

Comment by Dan 72 04.07.16 @ 9:21 pm

Pretty hard to teach an old dog new tricks. My guess is Peterman will revert to his old style of passing as time fads by. —As for Weah catching 100 balls a day with the JUGS machine, that’s probably 100 too few.

Comment by jrnpitt 04.08.16 @ 3:43 am

Thanks for the shout out, Reed! One question: Is being a “message board maven” a good thing? (smile)

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 04.08.16 @ 6:40 am

So last year the offense averaged 4.7 yards per carry. That sounds pretty productive to me. Maybe if Chaney wasn’t so set on calling pass plays and ran the ball more, Pitt might have won a couple more games. Just sayin.

Comment by Grizzly1 04.08.16 @ 7:27 am

Grizzly – 4.7 yards isn’t all that productive really, it puts us at 42nd nationally which is a bit better than average. Chaney called a 60%/40% split heavy on the running game, which in college football is a big difference and we only got 19 TDs out of it (86th nationally).

If anything Chaney should have called more passing plays as 343 is very low – actually we were 106th nationally in passes thrown even though Peterman did relatively well in Passing Efficiency at 44th nationally with 20 TDs to 8 INTs.

Just as Rudolph should have the year before with Chad Voytik when he was completing passes at a 12.7 ypp clip – which was a good for 36th nationally. Both CV and NP had very low INT % rates and when that happens you usually see the OCs rely on the passing game more – everyone hates turnovers obviously, but both Rudolph and Chaney did the opposite.

But the bottom line for me, and why I think this passing offense is going to be better is that Boyd has left. I know, stars are hard to replace but I do feel that we have some extraordinary talent coming up to join Dontez Ford as receivers and Canada is going to 1) spread out the ball to multiple targets and 2) go deeper more.

When Boyd was double teamed deep all last season it was tough to get the ball to him. This season Ford and perhaps Henderson or Tipton, who both have better speed than Boyd, will be our deep threats and neither will be double teamed… at least in the start of the season.

If Ford keeps his level of production at last year’s high marks he’ll get two guys on him for sure.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 8:21 am

A Pitt fan asked ESPN what Jordan Whitehead’s chances were for ACC Defensive Player of the Year for 2016…

“The Player of the Year Awards usually require two big things: 1. A standout performance in at least one counting stat (interceptions or tackles, most likely) and 2. Some preseason hype. Jordan Whitehead is certainly a candidate for some big numbers, with a 100-plus tackle season looking like a reasonable benchmark. If he really does get playing time on both sides of the ball, too, his profile could skyrocket nationally. Both of those things play heavily in his favor, and several of the other likeliest candidates — DeMarcus Walker and Derwin James, Devonte Fields and Keith Kelsey — might split votes by virtue of being on the same team. I’m not sure if I’d call Whitehead the favorite today, but he’d be a smart money bet.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 8:23 am

Justin – since when is an 18 year old, who has been receiving very big financial benefits from a university not an adult? Funny that 18 year olds are consider adults in every other way but sports in your eyes

They aren’t professionals (very damned close actually) but they sure as hell are adults.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 8:27 am

Hearing that Barnes has scheduled a game with Penn State hoops in Newark in December. Two contests with Penn State in the latter half of 2016 isn’t bad.

Early indicators show a better out-of-conference hoops schedule. Not sure if WVU is on it.

Comment by Tony77019 04.08.16 @ 10:24 am

Well, Reed, they’re not adults by standards of many on this board. THEY CAN’T BUY ALCOHOL.

Comment by Tony77019 04.08.16 @ 10:25 am

Tony – not in PA I guess but that is a point. I guess those under 21 voters, firefighters and cops in many states, military, and on and on don’t count as adults either.

Seriously, I get what Justine is saying but I believe that when you are playing D1 football on a full scholarship then your able to be written about in public.

On another note – is everyone skipping work today? Usually we have way more comments on here.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 10:59 am

Also – a while back someone was commenting that all the videos I post were screwing up their computers… is that the case?

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 11:00 am

My computer is fine Reed fwiw.

Comment by Dan 04.08.16 @ 12:02 pm

Reed – I believe it was Boo Boo who commented on the fees
freeze ups. I responded having the same problem.

Can’t remember when but soo after the problem (at least mine} seems to have been resolved.

Keep up the good work. I appreciate it.

Comment by PITT-cocks Fan 04.08.16 @ 12:04 pm

If they didn’t insist on running toss sweeps on 3rd & short they would have had about 6 ypc.

Comment by Nick 04.08.16 @ 12:12 pm

I think the coaches are throwing Stocker a bone and trying to motivate Bertke and DeNucci. They must suck if Stocker come from another position and beats them out.

If Stocker does beat them out or plays better in the spring game, they may as well transfer to a small school because they will never see the field at Pitt.

Reed, how much of a statue is Bertke?

Comment by notrocketscience 04.08.16 @ 12:15 pm

PSU vs Pitt in Newark is curious … big PSU country, but recruiting territory for both

Comment by wbb 04.08.16 @ 12:47 pm

I thought the play-calling last year was too cautious, for sure. Too few passing plays and of those passing plays, too many were short yardage plays. Make the defense actually defend the entire field and see if things don’t open up a bit.

With that in mind, you might see some addition by subtraction with Canada hopefully being a more effective OC at least as regards to playcalling. That’s my optimistic take, anyway.

Comment by Jeff 04.08.16 @ 12:59 pm

Nick +1

Comment by htp123 04.08.16 @ 1:01 pm

Not – put it this way, compared to Bertke Nate Peterman is Michael Vick. Which isn’t all that fair because Peterman can actually tuck the ball and run when he needs to. He’ll never be a ‘running’ QB but there were plays where he got great yardage with his legs. If you take his 29 sacks and that yardage away he purposly moved the ball forward 56 times for 425 yards at a 7.6 ypc clip – very good for a QB who ran that many times.

But Bertke is pretty much a drop back passer… and Rocket, they pretty much do suck – that is why Peak came straight out and called the backup QB position “a mess” twice in two weeks. Add DiPaola and others onto the list of media guys saying the same thing and its time to understand that we have a big problem there. I put up a video the other day that showed Canada screaming at Bertke for making the same mistake ‘over and over again’. He’s not getting it at this level and isn’t going to see the field unless major injuries happen… and then we are screwed anyway.

Stocker isn’t being thrown a bone. Pitt fans forget that he’s already played QB at the college level both at NC State and at UT-Martin. He’s a talented guy in his own right and he’s outplaying the two other QBs by a large margin.

Forget about MacVitte overtaking Stocker either I think. I have a feeling Narduzzi will redshirt him right from the get-go. Personally I don’t see the big attraction to MacVitte as others do – I mean not enough that I expect him to play this season certainly.

Just like all many others he was a 3* recruit but had pretty crappy offers until LSU made that one phone call. LSU only offered at that late date due to 1) they needed another QB in that recruiting class and 2) they thought Chaney’s departure would change MacVitte’s mind. I don’t take that offer all that seriously.

Throw in the fact that he has only one year of HS starting experience and I’m even less impressed.

Hold the “He played on a state championship team” talk also.

At one point three years ago we had Tino Sunseri, Trey Anderson and Mark Myers on the roster and they all could claim the same thing… how did that work for us – and Anderson’s was in the biggest division in football-crazy Texas.

We’ll live and die with Peterman then Stocker this year. I’ve said many times on here a staff doesn’t go out and change a SR to another position and then go out and get a transfer QB in the same week if there wasn’t a huge reason to do so.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 1:05 pm

Another POV on the offense, way more than 50% of the pass receiving offense left with Boyd. The only other experienced receiver is Ford. The amount of inexperience in the receiving corps is HUGE. We get the new road graders JJS and Officer and Bookser. The running backs are deep and talented. 1200 yards from Ollie, Ibrahim is back, Hall is starting to flash, and hopefully Conner will make a comeback. About 60% running plays sounds about right to me.

Comment by Grizzly1 04.08.16 @ 1:27 pm

Reed, why so much credence placed in Peak?

If you ever hear him talk about football… and I’m sure you have/do… he really brings NOTHING insightful.

Sound like a NICE Guy and a HUGE Fan of everything Pitt.

But that’s about where it stops.

Comment by PittofDreams 04.08.16 @ 1:35 pm

And to address the move of Stocker to QB…

Seems pretty obvious Canada likes QBs who can run (aka “Dual Threat” Quarterbacks).

By the way if you check out some highlights from Stocker’s past performances, he looks pretty decent throwing the Ball too.

Comment by PittofDreams 04.08.16 @ 1:41 pm

—While the Pitt RBs are decent, none of them really have big-time ability to make tacklers miss. WE need to go back to finding the shiftier type RB, like Shady, Dion and Ray. These guys added a ton of yards by making people miss on tackles. That also led to many long runs.

—I was one of the people having problems with my computer freezing up – and only on this site. It has gotten better, but still freezes up some…

–Come on Jester Weah!! Seeing Jester catch that 70-yard bomb at the end of the Matt Canada video was sweet. Jester should watch that over and over – positive reinforcement.

–What I’d like to know is when he was thrown 100 passes per day, how many did he catch… I still say the guys is going to contribute — even as a RS frosh, Guru Chryst had put Jester into a few games, so he must have been showing some ability in practice…

Go Pitt.

Comment by MajorMajors 04.08.16 @ 2:42 pm

Thanks Reed

Maybe someone can post a link of Stocker playing QB.

I wish Pitt would get a mobile QB. That is some exciting shit, lol.

Comment by notrocketscience 04.08.16 @ 2:48 pm

Ask and thou shalt receive… a little Emmanuel Stocker.

link to youtube.com

Comment by PittofDreams 04.08.16 @ 3:06 pm

Looks like DiNucci made a terrible mistake. He passed up a probable starting QB job and an Ivy League diploma to come here.

Comment by 2$Chuck 04.08.16 @ 3:08 pm

And Emmanuel “Manny” Stocker actually throwing a pass.

link to youtube.com

Comment by PittofDreams 04.08.16 @ 3:11 pm

It still not too late to put some Ivy League feelers out there for DiNucci. And while we are at it maybe Bertke can also start looking for a new home. My guess is both Canada and Narduzzi will be having a sit down with both of those guys after the spring game to set the record straight.

Comment by jrnpitt 04.08.16 @ 3:16 pm

major b right. Need elusive RB’s which Hall provides moreso than Ollison. Watching Conner from ’14 is night/day from what Pitt RB’s did last year.

Comment by JohnRamella 04.08.16 @ 3:17 pm

pittppe95 – I have and I think he’s OK, just not the start -as-soon-as-possible QB others feel he is.

One thing I have learned from watch Pitt football lo these many years is that our recruit QBs hardly ever live up to the hype.

Voytik was a case in point. We read so much about his four stars and his great offers and his being the #4 QB in the nation… then when I saw him in numerous camps and scrimmages I realized he wasn’t the QB others thought he would be and I wrote that on here and took some major heat for it.

CV ended up about what I thought he’d be – an average D1 QB… and I really wish we had him on roster now.

All that said, I haven’t seem MacVitte throw a ball yet or try to command a huddle and run plays so this is all a gut feeling on my part. I think MacVitte could be a starter sooner rather than later mostly due to no competition from Bertke, Adzima and DiNucci. Stocker and Peterman will be gone after this season and the new QB Schneider isn’t anyone to jump up and down about either.

So TM might just slide into that role as soon as next season and in a year or two may be just fine. I’m not saying he won’t be a good one – just that I don’t see what the excitement is at this point.

I’m still holding out a small hope that we get a decent transfer in for this season but have heard that Stocker has the staff smiling so that most probably won’t happen… and the staff really lucked out in Stocker’s case. The is a huge gulf between Peterman and the rest of the roster before Stocker switched positions.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 4:32 pm

PoD – I’ll soundly disagree with your take on Chris Peak’s work.

I get a lot of info that I don’t necessarily write about on here and almost always when that info does get into the public realm it will be Chris Peak doing it and he’s almost always right on the money. So yes, I have a large amount or respect and trust in what he talks about when he’s discussing Pitt football.

You have to understand that Bloggers and recruiting services writers have a different job than beat writers do – for one there is no restriction on how many words per day or per week we can write as opposed to the strict limits anyone associated with the news media has in print or in opinion pieces.

Therefore guys like Peak have to really dig and due tough research to get info that isn’t fed pablum style to the media by the staff and Pitt’s media department (who also have their hands tied tightly by the football staff by the way).

Peaks podcast are excellent as he weaves his opinions with the info he gets from Pitt in a way that really enlightens the listeners. His articles behind the pay wall at Rivals are very good also and are detailed and well worth the money if you’re an avid Pitt fan.

I guess I see what he does and because I do some of the same thing – as a blogger and not at all the reporter Peak has to be also – I understand how hard it is to constantly pump out info on what sometimes are narrow window subjects like the interviews after these spring practices.

Anyway, his info is the timeliest and the best there is in my opinion. He’s spot on the mark way more than any Pitt beat writer I have read including Paul Ziese who I thought was very good in covering Pitt.

So when I say when Peak and DiPaola are worried about the backup QB slot so we should be too it is because I think those two are the most solid and non-knee jerk reports in the Pitt scene. But just remember… I wrote about that problem way before either of those guys did, back as soon as CV said he was transferring! 😉

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 4:46 pm

Any word on where CV is heading?

Comment by BigB 04.08.16 @ 5:09 pm

I did watch MacPitt twice last year. I do think he will surprise us for sure. His lack of qb time makes me think his transition will be more mental than physical. He has the physical tools.

I think the same for bertke. I think if injuries forced bertke to the field, we would be run dominant and play action would be huge. For that reason I am not as worried. For all we know, he could be a game player and not a practice player.

Most interested right now in Burger Jones Smith rehab. If he is healthy our OL is so much better.

On CV, last I heard was possibly eastern kentucky which is where the 5 star osu player went for rehab and I think Chapman may have gone there too.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 04.08.16 @ 6:25 pm

Chapman is with the Akron Zips, late of Ashland U (a D2 school) last I heard… not sure what you mean by “Rehab”.

Voytik doesn’t need any physical rehab and I very much doubt it would be for anything else. A D2 school would be perfect for him I guess.

If he lands at Eastern Kentucky he’ll have a hard time trying to win the job off the returning starter Bennie Coney:

Bennie Coney QB Rating 134.2 225-367 61.3% 2471 yards 23 TDs/8 INTs long 70 224.6 ypg

Seems Coney did a pretty good job behind center and he’s a rsSR this season.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 7:15 pm

Reed, usually embedded videos will slow down reloads on internet pages. Maybe a clickable link instead would be better for some. I have no problem though.

Comment by Jackagain 04.08.16 @ 7:21 pm

Dhuff – let’s hope you are right on both counts.

Comment by Reed 04.08.16 @ 7:23 pm

One thing that struck me last season regarding our QBs was the velocity of their passes. Now ND probably isn’t the best comparison, but I was watching the ND QBs in warm-ups and their QBs – all of them – threw the ball noticeably faster than our guys.

I know “arm strength” isn’t everything, but it sure helps on those 3rd downs when there’s a tight window.

Anxious to see what MacVittie’s arm looks like (and remembering the horror the first time I saw 5-star Pat Bostick throw the ball (sorry Pat))…

—————Go Pitt——————

Comment by MajorMajors 04.08.16 @ 7:55 pm

Velocity is one thing but touch and accuracy are another. Dont want any Cam Newtons on this team. Rocket arm but no finesse on his passes. Plus a gutless leader of men. And little up top.

Comment by TX Panther 04.08.16 @ 8:07 pm

Reed…by definition most college QB recruits don’t live up to the hype.
Has a PSU QB done so? Michigan?
To me, the issue with Pitt was that we rarely got a highly touted QB.
Most QBs don’t pan out. The OSU got a lot of pub, but they are the exception.
It’s the most difficult position to play..by a wide margin.

Comment by Sfpitt 04.08.16 @ 11:29 pm

VT also had Tyrod Taylor FYI

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