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October 10, 2015

Open Thread: Homecoming 2015

Filed under: Football,Open Thread — Chas @ 9:46 am

Some last minute family issues abruptly intruded on the weekend, keeping me from getting to Pittsburgh this weekend. That forces me to watch at home on what should be a perfect day for football. Even with a 12:30 start time. Frustrating. Very frustrating.

Big game today. Homecoming. First home game in over a month. A conference and divisional opponent. A very winnable game. Not to mention lots of recruits on hand.

It says something about the change in mindset with the fans towards this team, new coach, new staff and just general feeling of renewal for the athletic department that it doesn’t feel like Pitt is going to find a way to blow the opportunity and the game.

Hail to Pitt.





Pittisit.. You are right on about the media extending the Chad discussion and so is Coach Duzz who weekly mentions CV is the hardest worker and they have a package for him..to me a package is more than a single play here and there…Duzz should just keep him on the bench and only give him PT if Nsthan is injured, playing badly or we have a big lead late in the game.. Chad is a warrior and a Pitt Panther and should not be subjected to this type of BS play calling by Chaney.. has to be having a negative impact in his confidence.. As long as NP is in there I will cheer him on.. This is all on the Coaches an not the boys Playin the game.. We are fans who love ourPanthers and appreciate the game and most on here have FB smarts ..and we can be critics.. Thanks for the links Emel.. You back your opinions up.. Hope to catch you at the Duke game

Comment by BigB 10.11.15 @ 5:00 pm

Chaney passed this kid over at Tenn, by not offering when he was a bust of an OC there.

Now he got to pass him over again.

Proving to himself, he was right all along.

Egos are a terrible thing.

Comment by Emel 10.11.15 @ 5:06 pm

Sarkisian was apparently sent home today by AD. A source said “he was not in good shape”.

He is taking a leave of absence.

Enjoy 4-1 people. It could be worse

Comment by Pap76 10.11.15 @ 5:07 pm

Emil – If & when TT’s expectation record of 10-2 happens, OC Chaney will add that to his resume – LOL.

I don’t think there will be many complaints at that point.

Today, the complaints are legitimate. Sorry to those who want all positive, lovey, dovey postings. Go write a note to your significant other…

Back smash mouth football please!

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 10.11.15 @ 5:10 pm

Peterman is #3 in ACC in pass efficiency and #23 nationally. Take away earlier int’s that he seems to have learned from and the rankings would be higher…

Comment by Pap76 10.11.15 @ 5:13 pm

Dion Lewis just scored an impressive TD for the Patriots.

H2P

Comment by panther94 10.11.15 @ 5:15 pm

Who’d have thought Lewis would be having a bigger year Shady in the NFL? He’s a perfect fit for the Pats offense.

Comment by johnnygossamer 10.11.15 @ 5:23 pm

Agreed jg. Now, Devin Street with a beautiful sideline catch on 3rd and 12 for Dallas.

H2P

Comment by panther94 10.11.15 @ 5:29 pm

Iron Duke…love you man. You say the crap I keep thinking when I read this blog.

While I love the debate, there is some serious negativity on this board this season. I just don’t get it. We haven’t been perfect and yes there are still things to work out and there is always room for improvement, but some of the serious negativity guys here are just mentally draining.

How about this…we quit dragging up all the negativity of the past and look at the game at hand. I’m fine with the coulda, shoulda, woulda…but to go back to OCJC past at Arkansas with the hate to skew the view drives me nuts.

Again, I have nothing against CV and nothing against NP, I feel they both have had there moments. RIGHT NOW…NP is just slightly better. CV is always an injury (god forbid) or a horrible game by NP away from coming back in as the guy. I’d love to see him pass a few series as well, but that still won’t fix all this candy a$$ negativity that continues to spew here.

We are 4 and friggin’ 1 right now. Let’s get behind this team and support them, get out there and cheer them on, and stay positive in various social medial forums as you know somehow it gets back to recruits. The stadium looked a bit yellow yesterday, but I swear that crowd on tv sounded pretty darn loud when UVa was backed up or on key plays.

I commend all those going to Tech next week. Have fun in Atlanta..I was in Milleium Park area a few years back and found a pretty cool German restaurant right there that had some good food & german brews.

Enjoy the city and HAIL TO PITT!

Comment by rYm0 10.11.15 @ 5:34 pm

Erie, I don’t know if anyone wants only Lovey Dovey positive posts. What people are sick and tired of is the CONSTANT water dripping agonizing same comments over and over again that Chad should be playing and it’s a conspiracy against him that he isn’t. WE GET IT!!!!!!!!! You think Chads better!!!!!!
MOVE On ALREADY!!!!!!!!

Comment by pittman4ever 10.11.15 @ 5:42 pm

Emel, I was home taking care of my beloved and disabled daughter and our dog.

Comment by steve1 10.11.15 @ 5:48 pm

If Freeze and Bam are out for any length of time do they burn the redshirts of the freshmen?

Comment by gc 10.11.15 @ 5:57 pm

Sheard with 2 sacks…former Pitt players shining in this game.

Comment by panther94 10.11.15 @ 6:02 pm

Erie, who said lovey dovey? Reading yesterday’s game thread, you’d think Pitt lost to Bethany College by 30. I have no problem with alternate points of view and there are certainly legitimate issues to discuss. But negative for the sake of negative is tiring. 4 and 1 and it’s like the apocalypse on here.

Comment by Iron Duke 10.11.15 @ 6:15 pm

Living in NC it has been interesting to see the quiet transformation of the Duke FB program under Coach David Cutliffe which is nothing short of miraculous. They are playing well on both sides of the ball. Coach “Cut” ,a former assist, has definitely made a move to becomng a solid HC..I think Coach Duzz will do the same. Would like to be a fly on the wall when he is alone with OCJC..I could only imagine..CoachDuzz is a smash mouth type coach..I can’t see the HC wanting anything but an offense that parallels his defense.. 4-1 been here before with another game next week- it too is part of the “Revenge Tour.” Hail to Pitt…one more thought- you guys always bitchin about posters bitchin..QUIT BITCHIN..same with some attitudes complaining about other attitudes..take the log out of your own eye.. I love the back and forth..GREAT entertainment

Comment by BigB 10.11.15 @ 6:22 pm

Sheard and Lewis look great. Have Leeis on Fantasy Team. The other side of the equation is Devin Street who has been an absolute disaster here in Dallas.

Comment by Upittbaseball 10.11.15 @ 6:25 pm

@ gc, Bam came back in and played yesterday and Freeze had a strained neck no concussion per Coaxh Duzz in his post game pressor. Not a problem with either playing against GT.

I want to start the conversation about when Conner comes back in a Panther uniform. We beat GT on Saturday, and Conner plays against Duke.

Did you see him on the sideline yesterday? He looked like he wanted to ask Coach to put him in now! He’s still into this Pitt team & season.

Comment by Dr. Tom 10.11.15 @ 6:26 pm

What’s the latest with Conner? Been pretty quiet. I assume he’ll back v. Notre Dame for the big match up between two ranked 7-1 teams.

Comment by johnnygossamer 10.11.15 @ 7:03 pm

Thanks Dr T, that makes me feel a lot better. Really happy for those two, they have put a lot of time and effort to get where they are and should be crucial to a Pitt Victory on Saturday.

I did see Conner, hopefully the Drs. give him the go ahead. What a boost that would be.

Comment by gc 10.11.15 @ 7:14 pm

Emel,

Are you concerned about Chaney’s ego or your own? You have a seemingly desperate need to appear right.

If Weah and Orndoff don’t drop passes yesterday, Peterman finishes 19/24, with something approaching 275 yards and 3 touchdowns with no picks.

Peterman isn’t playing with Conner. He’s playing with a guy who was a third string back heading into the season. He’s also not playing with two seniors on the OL.

Emel, I know you’ve been stressing it with your posts, but you can’t measure the success or failure of the offense purely on Boyd’s YPC.

If you’re going to do that, then we should also look at Orndoff’s and Holtz’s YPC and total production year over year. I finally saw something that Upitt posted with which I totally agree! Use the TEs. They are studs.

I do agree that it’s self-defeating to play Voytik and not let him pass. It also seems disruptive to only let him enter the game for a play at a time. If they insist on bringing him in, let him play a series and let him run plays that suit his skills like read option, rollouts and bootlegs. That would amount to a complete change up over Peterman.

Artie Rowell better learn how to snap in the pistol if they’re going to continue to operate out of that formation. I think there were at least three that went over Peterman’s head or almost went over Petermans head.

Good energy yesterday from the fans. Good energy from the players. I think it hurt the D that Grigsby was hurt on the first series.

Comment by Barvo 10.11.15 @ 7:21 pm

Was at the game and must say that I firmly feel Peterman is the best qb, CV needs to be used in a Tebowesque role. By this I mean use the read option and how about a jump pass or roll out pass every so often?? UVA had 9 guys at the line when he was in, easily could have had a big play. I’ve seen a bit of GT this year and often they get beat by play action perfect opportunity for a CV pass with 9 or more guys at the line.

Comment by John 10.11.15 @ 7:30 pm

Chaney is fine. Offenses always take a while to install. Couple that with the injuries on the line and at RB, factored in with how ridiculously unbalanced the offense was last year, it was always going to be a work in progress.

It finally started clicking this week too. Weah dropped an EASY TD and they were going to punch another one in until Ollison dropped the rock. The strip sack TD on NP is what it is. Shit happens. Great play by the UVA D there.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 10.11.15 @ 7:58 pm

Fitz, another hohum day at the office 5 catches, 58 yards 1 TD.

Comment by gc 10.11.15 @ 8:25 pm

——-Given how many offensive plays we outright gave away yesterday – the offense might be decent if we can eliminate those lost plays. I’m talking about putting CV in and just letting him run off tackle (obviously not a strength of his); all the bad snaps that blew up plays; and the weird, confounding play calls – like the across the field throws for a 2-yard gain when it’s 3rd and 4. (BTW, I hate “ACROSS the field” versus “DOWN the field” throws…)

—-We have great resources at TE in Holtz and Orndoff and we should be hitting them with short DOWN-THE-FIELD throws to convert the short 3rd downs. Who could cover Orndoff on a 10 yard throw down the field while they’re doubling TB? The TEs run down the field, stop and turn around, or run a down and out – it’s not rocket science (watch Heath Miller’s pass patterns).

And if you roll the QB out, all the better.

Go Pitt.

Comment by MajorMajors 10.11.15 @ 8:34 pm

A few positives I noticed at Heinz Field on Saturday:

1. Bill Fralic was given some alumni letter with other Pitt sports alum. Bill seemed to receive a great cheer. When they interviewed him, it happened right after the QB fumble/INT/pick 6 – Bill was not impressed and voiced his displeasure.
2. Darrel Revis was on hand and the announcer made it a point to give him a shout out with the camera on him. Awesome guest list…
3. The piped in music was toned down, but was a better mix than in the past. Two from Ozzie Osbourn – Crazy Train and another that I forgot the name of – all seemed well timed to fire up the crowd.
4. In the 4th qtr, the fans in my section were all standing except one UVA fan and Pedo State jerk. (Oops, too negative?)
5. Also in the 4th qtr, when the Panther Pit was rocking loudly and UVA had the ball inside their 5 yard line, a TO was called by their QB – D.Render headed toward the student section with his arms up, showing his appreciation. The Ref came over and shoved him to the Pitt sideline. These players know this year that the fans matter. (Opposite of last year under former HCPC).
6. At the start of the 4th qtr, the entire team came onto the field and began jumping up & down around the coaches – they knew it was time to focus and finish well. The video screen showed a hand shot of one of our players holding up four fingers – the crowd went nuts.
7. When the game ended, the team exchanged pleasantries with the enemy and worked their way down to the student section to celebrate while the band played the VICTORY song. Biz and Holtz jumped up in the stands and sat in the front row of the student section.
8. As my wife and I were walking down the ramp to exit Heinz Field, the fans began chanting “Let’s go Pitt”. Then came the best of all – the chant of “Penn State $U(K$”.

Day at Heinz Field with 45,000 Pitt fans – Priceless…

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 10.11.15 @ 8:36 pm

So how come we’re 4-1 … with the 1 being that road loss to a top 20 team due to a 57-yard field goal … and we have a grand total of 0 votes in the AP and coaches polls?

Comment by KeyboardKev 10.11.15 @ 8:56 pm

And Erie Express, that’s also my impressions of the game. The most 4th quarter cheering in a while. The injuries really disrupted the pace of the game for a while, but the 4th quarter I was very into it.

I just wonder if the students ever figure out that one quarter of football may not be worth a pepsi and a bag of chips.

Comment by KeyboardKev 10.11.15 @ 8:58 pm

Kev – You might be crossing the “negative” line with your zero vote comment.

Personally, I don’t think our coach would give us a vote either – but we’ll see. We need to beat GT and redeem last year’s debacle. That needs to be our focus – not the stupid polls right now. Keep winning, one game at a time and they can’t keep us from the rankings.

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 10.11.15 @ 9:05 pm

Temple with 96 votes and Pedo State with 4 in the latest AP poll.

If Pitt has zero votes, does that mean we are considered the third best D1 team in PA.

Come on man!

Pitt has played three P5 teams so far – Temple & Pedo State have played two P5 teams combined.

Comment by Erie Express 10.11.15 @ 9:19 pm

The crowd, though not as large as I would have liked, was really into it and stuck around till the end. That was the loudest I’ve heard the stadium (during the the 4th quarter defensive stands) since the last ND home win. Took my Dad for his first Pitt game since the 50s…we had a great time! H2P!

Comment by PittPT 10.11.15 @ 9:36 pm

Narduzzi on Pitt’s SOP mindset among his players:

The Panthers didn’t fold as previous Pitt teams have done after a big victory. The Panthers stood tall — or, at least, they didn’t bow their heads — in the face of an opponent trying to rally to victory.

“They got a pass on us and all of a sudden, the kids start to go, ‘Oh no. Here we go again,’ ” Narduzzi said. “That’s our job to make sure they don’t say that. We’re not going back that way. We’re not taking that route.”

link to triblive.com

Comment by Jackagain 10.11.15 @ 10:03 pm

Several recruits stood on the sideline before the game, including Bedford, Ohio, running back Chawntez Moss, who already has made a verbal commitment to Pitt. He said he would like to enroll in January and participate in spring drills.

Tight end Chris Clark, who is looking to transfer from UCLA, also was a Pitt guest. He visited Syracuse last week and might return to the Carrier Dome for Pitt/Syracuse on Oct. 24.

link to triblive.com

Comment by Jackagain 10.11.15 @ 10:09 pm

~ Barvo

I have to say, it must be nice, to crawl out from under one’s rock every so often and take pot shots at those of us that bear all on here and express our opinions.

Most of the guys and girls that read and don’t comment much, are pretty respectful of that.

But then again we do get our share of trolls too.

Be well regardless. I’m assuming you went to Pitt.

Comment by Emel 10.12.15 @ 12:15 am

Barvo, if you want to play the if game …

– If Blewitt doesn’t miss the 2 foot putt .. or HCPC centers the ball on the previous play vs Duke

– If the defense had any concept … or HCPN doesn’t hire House, vs UNC

– If Boyd doesn’t drop a pass .. or Pitt doesn’t muff on 2 different onside kicks, vs Houston

Fact is, this year’s team actually has a clue on defense … unlike last year’s team … all which contributes to wins.

As previously stated, I’m OK with Peterman at QB especially with the offense that is being run … but I don’t understand this concept that all of a sudden Voytik is an incompetent. For the 2nd part of last season, the offense was pretty much all we had.

Comment by wbb 10.12.15 @ 6:15 am

i don’t think anyone is saying that voytik is incompetent; its just that the staff likes peterman better. his skill set is further along to run the offense that chaney wants to run. stinks for him that he lost the job, but we have a new starter now who really has done nothing to lose he job. yet there is constant comparison and discussion about voytik. after a while that discussion gets old and it would be nice to see posters discuss the starter instead of the backup and the past. especially when we seem to be heading in such a new and exciting direction.

Comment by pittisit37 10.12.15 @ 6:41 am

Yep, as stated above and as reported in the newspaper, Narduzzi has a full appreciation of the SOP phenomenon. Hell, he witnessed one of the bestest crash & burn SOPs in our bowl game 1st hand. Never Forget Houston! That right there was Coach Narduzzi’s WTF SOP moment.

Even though there has been adversity and Pitt misadventures in every game this season, Pitt has prevailed as the victor 80% of the time. The “we aren’t going back there” comment made in his post game interview speaks volumes to the attention that Coach is paying to changing the cultural mindset of this team.

The mind leads and the body follows applies to the student “body” as well. Coach Narduzzi called out the students for being lazy about closing out games in a blanket email sent out before Homecoming. He got the PantherPitt to respond to his challenge and the Twitter buzz after the game reflected the feeling that the student body positively impacted the game when Pitt fumbled at the goal line down at their end of the field. The noise from them influenced the game and helped create the Pitt safety IMO.

Getting the crowd to understand how THEY can produce a home field advantage is huge! Coach Narduzzi and AD Barnes are on task about this. It will be very interesting in how our Thursday nite crowd responds to this novel concept of influencing the on field results by their support of the Panthers via showing up, staying the course for the entire game, making noise while there and celebrating with the team after we beat the tar out of the Tar Heels!

As Bob Dylan sang many years ago, the times they are a changing.

Comment by Dr. Tom 10.12.15 @ 7:02 am

BTW, for everyone on both sides of the heated Pitt starting QB debate, just remember that Chad Voytik is just an injury away from being our starting QB again. Stay strong my friend, your services may be required, in an instant, in the future.

Comment by Dr. Tom 10.12.15 @ 7:09 am

Emel – your 5:35 comment is exactly correct and what I have been saying ad nauseum… Voytik was the QB of a losing team. That does not make him a losing QB – two different things in my mind.

The fact is, and this has been discussed a ton also, Narduzzi and his staff came into a mediocre mostly losing football program and said they were going to shake things up and start with a clean slate. That is what new coaches due and mostly what they are hired to clean up.

With that they looked at the QB position and saw that, along with other positions, would be a place that might be able to do that.

You feel Voytik is the best thing to happen in a long time. I also think he’s pretty good but the difference is I have been saying since he started last season that he wasn’t indispensable. You obviously disagree. So did the staff and went out to get a QB they wanted on the roster also.

I don’t believe Voytik played himself out of a job at all. I do know that everyone was excited by Peterman’s play in camp and that people close to the program realized that a QB change was most probably being made. The staff, especially Chaney, wanted someone he knew and apparently trusted to run his offense… which really had nothing to do with Chad Voytik.

There were only two players on the team last year that were too good not to play – Conner and Boyd. That’s it. Everyone one else fell under the ‘blank slate’ Narduzzi kept talking about because when you have a losing team changes have to be made in many areas, personnel is one of those.

Comment by Reed 10.12.15 @ 7:25 am

Boyd isn’t getting his stats. Last year CV threw the ball almost exclusively to TB. This year NP distributes the ball to six or seven receivers almost every game. Love how Ford breaks tackles after he catches the ball. Both TE’s are getting catches, even saw the FB getting the ball. The offense is still sorting itself out, read that as Chaney. I think it will get even better as NP gets more experience, remember he is a first time season long starter much like CV was last year.

Comment by Grizzly1 10.12.15 @ 7:32 am

Correct Reed. QB is no different than any other position. The best players must play so we increase our odds of winning each week. I don’t believe Chaney is playing favorites. The coaches have 24 favorites – they are called out starters.

Comment by rayhpgh 10.12.15 @ 8:27 am

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