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September 11, 2015

The day before the game is a good time to sit back in your chair and take a long look at all your scribbled notes you have been jotting down, when you should have been working, about what you have read, seen and heard about the upcoming Pitt vs. Akron game.   It’s time to look at what you know and feel and start thinking hard about what you believe we’ll see come out of Zips hometown of Akron, Ohio on Saturday night.

To recap: Justin did a great piece on Thursday with his “Know Your Enemy: Akron Zips” article.  It succinctly covered Zips offense and their defense and then he adds his thoughts about the game in closing.  Justin’s prediction is this

Pitt wins an ugly one 24-13 thanks to a few turnovers from the defense and a smart yet boring day from the offense which avoids any big mistakes. Tyler Boyd turns something into nothing once or twice to open it up for the running game to be just good enough to control the game.”

Here is a little something to help you in recapping the YSU win but remember that this shows only Pitt’s highlight and none of the lowlights as they say.

Leading up to the game and digesting what we saw on last Saturday it is evident that a few things jumped out as negatives which we may not all have expected. I did not think Voytik was going to come out of those 60 minutes having played the worst game of his career. I truly didn’t expect that and do not think he’ll replicate it this Saturday.

Narduzzi attributed our QB’s poor showing to some opening day jitters theory to which I was pretty astounded he actually had the bad sense to use.  That to me was disappointing as much as anything that happened on the field.  But then I had to remember that it was Narduzzi’s own opening day jitters that led him to say that.  Voytik will improve but the question is whether it be a gradual, small increment improvement or will it be ‘put that loss in the rear view mirror and play much better’ type of improvement.

We can cherry pick some of the bright spots of last week’s games and feel good about what happened and we should do that as fans.  Hope springs eternal and all that.  But the real way to look at a future match, at least to me, is to look at what we did wrong and try to figure out if those problems are fixable in five days of practice.

I mentioned Voytik’s play above and my jury is out on that.  It isn’t like that type of play is an aberration for him, we have seen it before.  I think he’ll do a bit better but I also honestly we won’t see him start to really progress until the staff sits him down and says the season-long starting QB job is his.  It could well be that he’s not thriving with competition as one would expect.

I don’t know about his HS career but the reality is that this situation between him and Peterman is the first actual competitions he’s faced at Pitt.  He wasn’t going to play as a FR; Chryst got Savage the next year and last season Anderson wasn’t really in the mix as much as we were led to believe.  Maybe that’s put a crimp in his play so far.

Our running game was top of the line against YSU and you’d think we’d be able to replicate that with no problem.  However, I don’t think we are going to see Ollison or James ripping off those 50+ yard runs with consistent frequency. What we really need to see more than anything else is a constant movement of the sticks after two consecutive running plays.  When we start doing that I’ll feel much better about our OL run blocking and will let go of the thought that the big rushing yardage against YSU might have been an aberration.

Saturday we had 43 rushes for 325 yards and a 7.6 ypc average.  Will we be able to do that again?  Not without those big runs and maybe not because we are without Conner.  Ollison and James are very good talents but you never know how an offense is going to react to the loss of not only a superstar player but a true leader who guides the unit by example, support and hard work.

We need to be able to get the ball in deep our territory and take it downfield on a long series to march off time and to score. I don’t think we saw a drive like that once last game did we?  Here is the scoring drive summary for your perusal, but no we didn’t.

One thing jumped out at me while watching the game; our failures on 3rd down conversions.  Pitt converted 5 of 14 attempts on 3rd down and every one of those was on the ground. Voytik had six 3rd down passes and threw a Pick Six, one pass for (-)9 yards and four completed passes which were thrown to players behind the sticks and the receivers tackled short of the 1st down.  We need to do a lot better than that if we want to win ACC games.

On most of the 3rd down passing attempts we had someone open past the 1st down marker but Voytik passed to the closer receiver.  That has to get fixed and quickly by Voytik especially because Peterman had two 3rd down attempts and completed a 19 yard pass and then a 41 yarder to convert both.  Not just fixed for 3rd downs either, this has been a problem since he took his first snap at Pitt.

After the game Artie Rowell addressed a problem the offense had when he said this about the running game and the communication errors between the staff, the QB and the offense:

Although Pitt ran for 325 yards behind various line combinations, Rowell said some communication issues might have prevented an even better performance.

“First-game stuff,” he said. “Just some communication things from the sideline to Chad (quarterback Voytik) to (the offensive line). We have to be on the same page, not nine out of 10 times; we need to be on it 100 percent of the time. If there is one play that gets signaled in incorrectly or Chad interprets it incorrectly, that could mess things up.

“That and the communication during the play, line calls, and I take that responsibility. More studying needs to take place. Everything has to get amped up one more notch.”

If that continues and we aren’t getting the benefit of big runs for TDs then we need to get yardage and points some other way. That would be where the passing game and special teams come in, especially on 3rd down and if that fails, which it did miserably against YSU, then on 4th downs.

As shown above, five 1st downs in 14 3rd down conversion attempts isn’t good football at all.  Neither is having seven punts for 247 yards with an average per punt of 36.5 yards and a net yardage of 31.5, which sucks.  Here are the field positions we left YSU with after our punts and what YSU did on the next drives:

1st Half: Punt to the Pitt 37 (FG) and YSU 46 (FG)

2nd Half: Punt to the Pitt 46 (Downs); YSU 20 (TD); YSU 35 (downs) and YSU 17 (End of Game)

So we pinned them back deep in their own ground only twice all game and one of those didn’t really affect the game.  We have to get better punting and resultant field position than that.

Finally, some fans are looking at this as a sort of “Redemption Game” where the fact that we were utterly humiliated by the Zips last season is somehow going to make our players bigger, faster and wanting to win the game more than a regular game.  They feel it is a They beat us damn it! Now we get revenge! scenario.

Really though?  That’s supposed to happen?  You could have fooled me by the way we played against YSU and that was a supposedly a redemption game also. Is that what we saw last week when the Pitt players came out of the tunnel at Heinz then promptly gave up a FG then were forced to punt in a 4 and out series?  Then later deflated again and gave up 24 points to the Zips in the second half?

Yesterday I said all this in a comment and got this answer from a fan in return:

The fact that we have nearly the same roster as last year is why we’ll zap the Zips. The kids know it was a historically bad loss for Pitt, and they’ll be fired up.

When I asked why then the squad wasn’t ‘fired up’ against YSU I got this reply:

The YSU loss was a few seasons previous, very few of the players in that game are still with the squad. The Akron game was less than a year ago.

Now, I didn’t quote that to embarrass any reader, the author is very knowledgeable about football and is perceptive, I did it as an example of how fan’s wants and desires get clouded with emotions sometimes.

The truth of the matter that in last week’s game we had 25 players on the roster that had been on the team back in 2012 when YSU beat us.  That is almost a quarter of the roster. Every rsSR, SR and rsJR who suited up last Saturday had been there and had experienced that loss. Those players made up a lot of our 22 starters and of our two-deep.  That just didn’t seem to make a difference at all once the opening whistle blew.

So a legit question is how we know that the Pitt players facing Akron this tomorrow will respond in a positive way at all.  Granted Narduzzi was in his 1st game as a HC but he didn’t get our players’ emotions up by using that ’12 loss as fuel on the fire as proven by our flat start and crap game. That is if Narduzzi even mentioned that previous YSU game at all.  He may not have and may not talk about last year’s Akron game either.  Perhaps for he and his staff everything is forward looking and starting with, as he says, “a blank slate”.

OK, enough of the past.  What about this Saturday?

On paper Akron has less talent on its roster than either YSU or Pitt and that would lead one to think that alone would give us a big edge going into the game. We had that same edge, though maybe not so big a difference, last week also but our player’s efforts and average at best play on the field erased any benefit our higher talent level may have given us pretty quickly.

I’m worried the same thing could happen this week with Akron.  I again think we’ll be outcoached by the opponent’s staff and their HC who is more experienced than ours. In a sense Akron has nothing to lose in this match unlike our new staff does.  If our staff can’t get Pitt to win this game, and make no mistake, there isn’t a game on our schedule we can’t lose, it’s a big step backward and something we really can’t afford after spinning our wheels in last game.

So that means that this game may be the one that puts the most pressure on the staff to win as it is the last ‘lesser’ opponent on the schedule.  We may be in a high pressure situation later on if we win a bunch of ACC games and are close to a conference championship but unless that happens this is the must win game. It will be interesting to see how the staff responds to that.

I think we won’t see as much scoring as last week and that instead of having a win produce the usual carry-over positive effect on the next week’s game the YSU experience will have sown some seeds of doubt in the clubhouse.

I may be wrong about that but adversity is something that Pitt teams have had a hard time handling in the past and as we know at Pitt history repeats itself on a regular basis. If you remember last season we lost to Virginia the week after that Akron defeat. Virginia completely manhandled Pitt in the first half of that game because we had a loss hangover.  We may see a version of that tomorrow.

So factoring all the above in, I see a close game with a winning margin of a TD or less.

24-20 Akron.  I hope I’m wrong.

 





PITT 28-13

Comment by tedsptman 09.11.15 @ 12:30 pm

Comment by wbb 09.11.15 @ 12:38 pm

There is an issue with the Pitt coaches headsets tomorrow as they are jammed with the Pitt radio broadcast. However, HCPN and staff are inspired by the spirited play-by-play provided by Bill H. and Pat B. which improves their coaching acumen from the previous week. Akron can’t get their offense in gear, Pitt 38 – 3. H2P

Comment by stilltheone 09.11.15 @ 12:39 pm

That wasn’t directed at you Reed, you’re great. Very appreciative of the work. Including the pump the brakes, wait-and-see approaching you’re taking… But predicting an Akron win, on such a beautiful Friday afternoon, may have been my tipping point today.

Guess I’m just wondering… not necessarily how you do it, but why?

All the time and effort, the interviews, the research, driving, hotels, writing, editing, more writing, more editing, more driving…

After all that, if my honest opinions were that YSU and Akron might have better staffs than Pitt, and they would fall to Akron…. I think I’d be done.

Perhaps better asked and answered over drinks…

H2P

Whip the Zips!

Comment by BostonsCommon 09.11.15 @ 1:32 pm

As a Pitt fan Dion Lewis and Sheard both played well and contributed to the Steelers defeat (Ugh).

Comment by Frank MD 09.11.15 @ 2:17 pm

Frank – it WAS good to see both players do that. Was pulling for them – just not the Pats. Too bad the game was not at Heinz.

Comment by Pitt it IS 09.11.15 @ 2:40 pm

Reed, I expect even if we win handily (say by 2 or 3TD’s) you will still predict a loss anyway against Iowa next week.

Last week wasn’t pretty but that’s a game you, me, and most ppl on this board know we would usually lose by the way it was playing out.

I will say it again, you are down on the Panthers.

Comment by Timmeh 09.11.15 @ 2:56 pm

Pitt 27 – 24

Chapman will look like young Mike Vick against our linebackers, but Boyd likewise will make short work out of the Zips secondary.

Comment by 2$Chuck 09.11.15 @ 3:01 pm

Pitt 31-17.
We’ll give up some big plays but this game will be more comfortable than the first.

Comment by JJ 09.11.15 @ 3:07 pm

On the 3rd down completions.

Reed mentioned that on 4 of Voytik’s passes on 3rd down, they were to WR’s short of the sticks.

Many on here have noted the mediocre or worse play calling, including me.

Why in the heck would you call a pass play, where the route of the WR was short of the sticks.

I truly hope Chaney starts calling more and different plays this week and that Voytik is allowed to throw downfield. I’m sure with Boyd back, Chaney has to.

Pitt wins 35 – 10 !

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 3:13 pm

Pitt plays the first quarter with only three an outs with Chad at QB. Peterman is inserted in the game and gets the ball down the field to Boyd.

Pitt runs away with the W!!

Comment by Altoona_Josh 09.11.15 @ 3:17 pm

Reason I think only 10 Zip points.

Nard Dog had to be livid at the breakdowns last week and they won’t occur this week.

Plus Akron’s QB’s stink ! (of course last year we let some stinky QB’s have career games or at least good games against the OutHouse D)

Maybe someone else gets a chance a MLB this week. Don’t think you can have both Galambos and Caprara out there….at the same time.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 3:21 pm

Chaney and Galambos redeem themselves from the 1st game mishaps.

Blair and T.Boyd show that they are difference makers.
Pitt wins a close one 31 – 23

Pedo State has a burial service for Franklinstein’s playbook after the Buffalo game.

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 09.11.15 @ 3:28 pm

I am a tad worried though, after the playing against the speed LB’s that Oklahoma have on defense.

Galambos & Caprara might seem to the Zippy’s, to be running in place. Or running in hip waders.

link to image.sportsmansguide.com

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 3:32 pm

That is why, only one of them can be on the field…at the same time.

Nard Dog might be trying to earn Gravy points with the coach of Woodland Hills.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 3:35 pm

Pitt wins but it will be close, 27-17. Pitt has the better players and the Voytik will have an expanded playbook. His hands were somewhat tied last week with new termanolgy, plays, small playbook, and the absent Boyd. They need some play action plays to Holtz to soften up their defense. With 2 solid TEs and only one solid WR its time for Voytik to use them.

Comment by totall 09.11.15 @ 3:41 pm

This is how the ESPN ACC Bloggers see it:

Andrea Adelson Pitt 28-21
Matt Fortuna Pitt 28-16
David Hale Pitt 24-21
Jared Shanker Pitt 31-28

Comment by Pitt Dad 09.11.15 @ 3:47 pm

I’m waiting for upitt to pick me up in his Gulfstream, so we can beat it up to Akron.

We’ll have the lights on the strip on for you buddy.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 3:59 pm

Why are we even playing teams so close to Pittsburgh ?

If one (YSU) wasn’t bad enough, how about two.

Oh that Cornhole, he was a sly one. Funny we didn’t end up in the WAC conference.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 4:06 pm

Timmeh – if we beat Akron handily, and by that I mean fix a lot of the problems we had last week and win by 21 points I will sure think we’ll win against Iowa… depending on what Iowa does this week of course. Iowa was a better team last season than their 7-5 record indicated. I think they will be a 8-9 win team this season in the Big Ten so they aren’t a cupcake like some think Akron and YSU are.

But at no point did I expect us to lose that game last week. Even in the 4th quarter I was confident we’d hold on for the win and if you remember I predicted the Pitt win before that game also.

It wouldn’t surprise or shock me to see us win tomorrow either but as I said, I have this lump in my guy telling me that things may not be as good as fans think they are – most fans anyway.

You just don’t seem to like the fact that some of us aren’t drinking the Narduzzi Kool-Aid just yet. But hey, if he goes into Iowa wins and then rips off three or four more then I’l reevaluate how he’s coaching. So far I’m not impressed that he’s anything that I figured he’d be early in the season. I have said time and again that 1st year HC as new HCs at a school are almost always behind the 8-ball in their first season.

That and the fact that we have the exact same talent on the team less some of the better players doesn’t make me want to jump up and down until there is a reason to… hopefully I’ll start warming up the legs for jumping mode starting tomorrow around 9:00 pm.

Bostons – if Pitt was a perennial winning program I probably wouldn’t be doing this. What I like it putting thoughts on paper and reading all of you guys’ thoughts on paper. I like to stir the pot a bit although there is always a kernel of truth when I do that.

What makes this blog the best Pitt blog, and it is by far, is the interaction we get from the tension in Pitt’s week to week play and season to season success or the lack of success.

If all I had to do was write about how great we are playing and winning all the time I’d lose interest in this blog pretty quickly. I’d be happy for the team and the program and would still go to all the games, but wouldn’t take the time to get things going between games and seasons like we do on here.

I have said this since 2007 but that was my favorite season in a decade because of all the twists, turns and drama we went through then capped everything with 13-9. I’d have rather we win more games than the five we did but I’d love it if we had those elements of uncertainty every season… oops, we have that now I guess.

Beside – I hate the Panthers, haven’t you gotten the memo on that yet?

Comment by Reed 09.11.15 @ 4:24 pm

One advantage we should have tomorrow.

Last year’s Zippy game, we had MAC refs.

We should have ACC refs tomorrow. If that indeed is an advantage. Y’all.

Will they be able to discern between the 2 squads of blue & gold yankees ?

Does Pitt come out in their Goody Bar Icecream Man uni’s tomorrow ? (lord I hope not)

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 4:27 pm

Totall – they better not expand that playbook too much if at all – CV had a hard time executing the plays as called in from the field and they were as vanilla as can be. It would be nice to see him not crap the bed before giving him more choices (which he hasn’t handled well at all) and more responsibility.

KISS for Chad; Keep It Simple Stupid and lets have the staff get him into a rhythm of small successes out on the field and contribute to a win instead of almost contributing to a loss. Let’s don’t sugar coat what happened with him last week. In his 3rd year of play he had the worst game a Pitt QB has had in a very long time.

Comment by Reed 09.11.15 @ 4:28 pm

Tiny against Utah in 2011 was much much worse.

I took the bait.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 4:40 pm

Tiny against YSU, was worse, cause they lost to a D2 team. First time EVER in Pitt’s long storied football history.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 4:42 pm

Tiny in the Bowl game against C-USA SMU was pretty raunchy too !

He was even pulled for a D3 QB. lol

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 4:44 pm

And the 38-3 beatdown by Cincy when he threw the ball between the field goal posts. That was another classic.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 4:47 pm

I think the real question of this game is will Pitt stack the box and if they do will Akron be able to put out a consistent passing game to counter it.

I think Pitt will and I think Akron won’t.

Comment by deepelemblues 09.11.15 @ 4:52 pm

Savage against UVA in 2013 was brutal.

13 of 31, yea he threw for 190 yards but he was sacked like 10 times and threw 2 picks against a 2-10 UVA, winless in the ACC.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 5:13 pm

Can’t see Galambos tracking down Chapman when he runs. Same with Caprara.
Pitt: 31-17.

Comment by Gas 09.11.15 @ 5:29 pm

I want to say Pit 41-31 but my SOP-sense tells me Akron 28-17.

Comment by DD 09.11.15 @ 5:32 pm

When Chapman is in the game, you have to put a ‘spy’ on him.

Someone like Bradley or Whitehead. Meaning someone with speed.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 5:47 pm

Nard Dog likes to run a ‘basic’ defense as much as possible though. So I don’t know if we’ll see a ‘spy’ on Chapman. But apparently he isn’t a good passer, so you have to expect him to run.

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 5:50 pm

Ooops. Got to make it to Happy Hour before it ends !

Have a zippy Friday nite to each and all !

Comment by Emel 09.11.15 @ 5:52 pm

So we all talk around the main issue in college football. The team whose quarterback plays better, usually wins. They have new qb’s this year and that will be the difference.

Tomorrow, our two quarterbacks play better than their two quarterbacks. Must be disciplined rushing Chapman. Close game – Pitt by 9.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.11.15 @ 6:15 pm

72-0

Comment by TX Panther 09.11.15 @ 6:45 pm

Just for the record, I think Franklinstein and the Pedo’s struggle with Buffalo. UB has a 4 year starter at QB and he has steadily improved each season. I’m thinking he maybe able to keep them in the game. Wouldn’t it be great to hear all the crying after a loss there. Giving 17 points when you can’t score is a lot.

Comment by FoolOfPitt 09.11.15 @ 7:33 pm

Another 2-fer…Pitt 37-17, Buffalo 31-21.

That would remove the stench from the Steeler’s lose.

Question: Who has a worse coaching staff in the NFL than the Steelers?
Carnell Lake should never again get into an NFL staudium without a ticket. Yeah Butler, have Garvin cover Gronk at the goal line without calling a TO….that staff is Idiot’s Inc.

If I owned the Steelers I’d fire the whole staff but keep Munchak. Can Tomlin ever win a game in September?

Comment by Jackagain 09.11.15 @ 7:43 pm

*woops, Steeler’s loss

LOL TX….

Comment by Jackagain 09.11.15 @ 7:44 pm

Steelers have no defensive backs, But linebackers and D-line are coming on strong.

Steelers without Bell are like Pitt without Boyd, not going to beat a good team, especially the Superbowl Champs and the best QB of all time, with the best tight end in the game.

Losing Suisham for the season and Bryant for four is also a killer.

Comment by gc 09.11.15 @ 8:34 pm

Agree about Chapman, need to play Bradley and Wirginis and not let him get loose. Good thing he can’t pass, but we have seen other guys that can’t pass beat us. And the Steelers (Tim Tebow).

Still think we beat the spread.

Saw a lot of Penguins need assistance leaving the field last week. Hope that physical play continues this week.

Comment by gc 09.11.15 @ 8:41 pm

At least Dion Lewis made Pitt fans proud last night.

Comment by gc 09.11.15 @ 8:43 pm

Can former HCPC get his first Wisconsin win at home tomorrow against MAC power Miami (OH)?

BA is scripting the game plan as we Blather…

Comment by Erie Express 09.11.15 @ 8:43 pm

Voytik quick out to Boyd for 4 yards. Next play he hits Boyd on a slant across the middle for 15. Then a pass along the sideline to Boyd who takes it for 30 yards. Followed by a 16 yard scamper by Chris James. 7-0 Pitt.. If Pitt comes out and plays like they are capable, there’s no reason we shouldn’t win big. I’m hoping they do, and going with a Pitt win of 42-16. If so, I think Narduzzi’s biggest challenge, as it always is with people from Pennsylvania, is to teach these kids how to stay hungry even after you have proven to yourself that you can do something. Go Pitt!

Comment by PittFan28 09.11.15 @ 11:46 pm

Pitt 20 Akron 13

Comment by barreman 09.12.15 @ 6:30 am

Here is a little piece on ESPN regarding Pitt’s ceiling

“As much as we love James Conner, I’m not sure this loss drastically changes the overall outlook for Pitt. Last year, Conner topped 100 rushing yards against six FBS opponents. Pitt was just 2-4 in those games. Qadree Ollison and Chris James should be able to pick up a good portion of the slack on the ground – though I’d have some concerns about pass protection – and Pitt’s overall game plan shouldn’t change much. Its ceiling this year continues to be dictated by how well the defense plays.”

Agree about the overall gameplan not changing that much because it really can’t if the same offensive personnel are in there.

link to espn.go.com

Comment by Reed 09.12.15 @ 7:41 am

Akron, 27-17

Comment by JoeKnew 09.12.15 @ 7:51 am

same players on defense,slow linebckers,reed 5-7, develop younger players,peterman transferred 4 areason,voytek will shine, boyd will be doubled, look 4 ford and ziese will impress last win in September, we are training another coach,we may soon see fr fla linebackers,surprise of the game bam

Comment by paul shannon 09.12.15 @ 8:12 am

As much as I don’t see any way Penn State loses today I sure hope they win by less than 6 and that the game is in doubt the whole time. Man that will drive the PSU fans totally nuts! Practically as good as a loss.

Comment by DD 09.12.15 @ 8:40 am

This concept of “the same players as last year” has to be put to rest. Pitt has THE YOUNGEST starting roster in FBS last season. So even if this WAS factual, that season of experience fortifies every position that returns a starter from last year. But the concept is untrue to start with.

Look at the names that are being discussed today, will Peterman get more series at QB, can Ollison produce triple digits stats again this week, does Whitehead get his 1st interception tonight, is Scarpinato’s injury last week a thing of the past? Who was that FB that played so well against YSU? Not to forget names like Hall and Henderson that have the potential to make significan contributions All of these guys are brand new faces seeing the field.

Just really ridiculous to say this team is just a retread of the same team from last year.

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.12.15 @ 8:40 am

34-10 Game will be closer than my ‘prediction’ but we should be blowing out these teams. Demand greatness Rain? Ollison is a mudder. Pitt could not be less impressive than last week – can they?
34-10. NP passes for 15 yards on a screen Dark Knight Reed begins Heismann push. :). In reality QB completion continues. 34-10

Comment by rkb 09.12.15 @ 9:46 am

Pitt 34, Akron 16. Pitt’s running game is solid even against a stacked box, Boyd makes a couple of magical grabs and the other receivers step up against single coverage all game. Voytik has a couple of big runs on blitzes. Pitt D can afford to stack the box and isolate on the outside all game because Akron can’t throw the ball, masking our weakness up the middle.

Comment by Sean 09.12.15 @ 9:51 am

PITT by 8 28 -20

Would like to see the 42 – 17 game. Depending on when Akron scores there 17, we could see Bertke.

Comment by PITT-cocks Fan 09.12.15 @ 12:49 pm

Pitt wins 24-7 in a rainstorm. Nate relieves Chad.

Comment by sfpitt 09.14.15 @ 10:30 am

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