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December 9, 2014

Pitt Basketball Breaks for Finals

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 8:47 am

This is not what has been a “typical” Pitt basketball season just 8 games in. Only two games at the Pete through the second week of December. Three quality opponents faced in the non-con. Three losses in the non-con. So, while finals are happening and the team is off until Saturday, there is a chance to look at a few things regarding this team.

What the hell, I’ll steal borrow from Reed’s three positives and three negatives football thing for this one.

Negatives:

1. The Five spot on the floor has been a black hole at both ends. Jamie Dixon has taken some big swings at recruiting prominent, high ceiling big men in recent years. From Beejay Anya to Chris Opekba. Unfortunately, they have been mainly misses. This has left him trying to fill in the spot with JUCOs and transfers.

That hasn’t worked out so well other than momentary flashes like Uchebo had against Duquesne or Randall over Chaminade. That Tyrone Haughton still hasn’t seen the floor  — even for defensive reasons — does not bode well.

The team has played around with using a front court of  Mike Young, Jamel Artis and Sheldon Jeter. But only one of those three plays decent defense with any consistency. This leaves Pitt both small and very exploitable inside.

Sheldon Jeter not being up to speed defensively does not have me upset with him so much as reminding me once more why I was so upset when Vandy blocked his transfer and he had to got sit out a year at junior college. He would have sat out last year, but he would have been with the team. Practicing, learning. Getting ready. He’s this year’s Trey Zeigler.

2. The defense, overall. The myth of Pitt as a blue-collar, defensive team has been going far longer than the numbers say. Yet, this might be the year that finally buries it. This is not a good defensive team. They have flashes, but the default is that this is a very average team on defense.

The backcourt should be better than it is — even without Cam Wright. There is a decent amount of length in players like Artis, Jones and Robinson that should allow them to close faster on anyone deciding to shoot a three while keeping them in front to control penetration. Josh Newkirk doesn’t have size, but is quick. He should be able to play closer to deny the jump shot while keeping his man from penetrating off the dribble. At least that is the theory.

The reality is that they have been a step slow. Both in closing on a shooter or denying penetration far too frequently. Couple  that with a frontcourt that either lacks size. Or when the bigs are out there — don’t have the foot work to be well positioned to defend. And there are far too many drives to the basket for a lay-in or kick-out for an open look as the defense collapses inward.

3. Youth hurts. There’s a lot of minutes going to inexperienced players at the same time. That leads to a lot more mistakes and frustration on the court.

Positives:

1. Upside. One of the complaints about past Pitt teams is that they don’t seem to improve too much from the start of the season to the end. It’s the thing about teams that play a lot of upperclassmen. In-season improvement is limited when players have already started to hit their ceiling.

That isn’t the case this year. Two true freshmen — Ryan Luther and Cameron Johnson — are seeing significant minutes. They are not consistent, but the flashes they show are more than promising.

Sheldon Jeter is learning things on the fly, but he is a smart player and wants to make things work. He will improve.

Chris Jones and Jamel Artis frustrate the hell out of me frequently with their defense, but they are capable of being good defenders. It’s a matter of consistency of effort.

Mike Young is Pitt’s best player and he’s only a sophomore. James Robinson and Josh Newkirk have been working well as a tandem.

Then there is the fact that Cameron Wright has only played one minute the entire season. He provides more intensity on defense, and allows other players to be in a more natural role.

2. James Robinson and Mike Young. Without Cam Wright, Robinson is Pitt’s most experienced player and had to log the most minutes in this young season and so many young players. Years on the team, minutes and games plays. He’s been through the most. This season he has been forced to defend every opposing team’s best perimeter player in Wright’s absence. He is  the point guard and expected to shoulder a greater offensive load this season. That’s been a lot to carry.

I’ve been a little surprised to see the complaints of how he hasn’t improved or has regressed. That’s not the case. He’s doing far more now, than in his first two years. He has been far from perfect, but has definitely improved his overall game.

As for Mike Young, he has been solid inside. Leading scorer and rebounder. He’s a sophomore but as much of a team leader as Robinson and Wright.

3. Varied offense. For years the complaints about Pitt has been the lack of offensive firepower. That it dooms them later. Offensive potential is not the issue. From Jones and Newkirk on the perimeter. To Artis, Jeter, Johnson and Luther with the potential to stretch defenses. Mike Young inside. There’s a lot of potential.

Consistency and realizing it, are the things we are waiting to see.





True, this team can’t get much worse. They have to improve. Right ?

And the next few games after St. Bonnie are rent-a-wins, so that will give us all a false sense of improving.

Works for me !

Comment by Emel 12.09.14 @ 8:58 am

Jeter was Mia against the Dukes (zero minutes) and hardly played against the Hoosiers (5 minutes).

Anyone know the scoop on that. He was supposed to be key contributor this season.

Comment by Emel 12.09.14 @ 9:01 am

Yeah… He can’t play D, plain and simple!!

Comment by Pitt89 12.09.14 @ 9:11 am

“The myth of Pitt as a blue-collar, defensive team has been going far longer than the numbers say. Yet, this might be the year that finally buries it. This is not a good defensive team. ”

While I agree with you that we are a horrid defensive team, I disagree that the blue collar, gritty image the National Media has imposed on us, since we play in a city that 4-5 decades ago made Steel & things, will ever go away.

The national TV media, with their magnitudes of talking heads, have their narratives, and come hell or high water, they stick to them.

We are destined… eternally to be gritty and blue collared.

Comment by Emel 12.09.14 @ 9:11 am

You were spot on that only one of Young, Artis and Jeter “plays decent defense with any consistency.”

But there is a solution being explored by Dixon. When 6’9 Luther is in with Young, the team doesn’t lack size. And Luther is a fast learner and is becoming a good defender.

Dixon had so much confidence in Luther that he had him playing center with Artis at power forward for a good part of the first half against Duquesne.

Comment by Howard 12.09.14 @ 9:20 am

Pitt – Bonnies Saturday at 2 pm on ESPNU.

Comment by Frank MD 12.09.14 @ 9:25 am

But No. 1 Reason why this hasn’t been the ‘typical’ basketball season so far ….

we haven’t played our typical array of pre-season patsies at the Pete so far.

Comment by wbb 12.09.14 @ 9:26 am

Emel, Most of us embrace our gritty blue collar history. However the truth is that even in the 1960s in Pittsburgh, white collar jobs outnumbered blue collar jobs. At that time we were still the third in the nation behind only New York and Chicago in the number of corporate headquarters. Since then the numbers have become even more lopsided in direction of white collar positions here. I’m afraid the narrative with sports writers, regarding the city or Pitt basketball, will never change.

Comment by Justinian 12.09.14 @ 9:30 am

Mike Young was in immediate foul trouble in the last 2 games, and had to sit almost the entire 1st half in both. (remember JD’s 1st half 2-foul rule …. you sit no matter who you are)

Comment by wbb 12.09.14 @ 9:34 am

wbb, I understand Jamie Dixon’s 2 foul rule, but I don’t always agree with it. Some guys can play fairly well in foul trouble. Also there have been times, when due to matchups, we’ve fallen too far behind with a key player on the bench. There is also the second half issue when a player in foul trouble is kept on the bench too long. I would rather have my best players on the court and take my chances, rather than voluntarily giving up an opportunity to win. It’s like preserving your time-outs in football, it doesn’t help you when the game is over, if you have your time-outs left.

Comment by Justinian 12.09.14 @ 10:01 am

agree somewhat. But he has been pretty sucessful with the rule. I remember many times when I thought someone who I thought the team couldn’t afford to sit, yet by halftime, the game was well in reach. Even vs IU, we kept it close until the last minute or so before halftime.

Comment by wbb 12.09.14 @ 10:12 am

Don’t take t he Bonnie’s lightly. They are 6-1 and have a guard oriented team. Will give Pitt fits.

Comment by Dan 72 12.09.14 @ 10:46 am

This is not a BB article but a very interesting read on how Pitt got to their bowl game.
link to bcinterruption.com

Comment by Letterman 12.09.14 @ 11:04 am

That’s what I said Justinian.

Sorry if I offended your blue collared grittiness.

Most of the blue collared gritty guys I knew were never so easily offended.

Living in the Twilight Zone of 21rst century America.

Comment by Emel 12.09.14 @ 11:30 am

Letterman, pretty honest, straightforward artilce from BC, Thx

Comment by wbb 12.09.14 @ 11:40 am

Thanks Letterman I called Bullshit as soon as the bowl was announced.

Wright taking minutes away from Jones and his rainbow shot will help this team on both ends of the court. This team can’t defend in man to man D, they should be playing zone all the time. Dixon is too crazy about out rebounding the other team that he can’t see what’s best for this team. They can play man against the rest of their December schedule but they need the practice with the zone for the bigger and quicker ACC.

Comment by Steve h 12.09.14 @ 11:41 am

Im still pissed off that we are “young” and “rebuilding”. This one is on coaching – how you allow yourself to have this mix is inexcusable. We will struggle to get to .500 – MAYBE get an NIT invite.

SOP

Comment by Pitt IT Is 12.09.14 @ 12:19 pm

Good article Letterman. Thanks.

Comment by notrocketscience 12.09.14 @ 12:19 pm

Justinian,

Dixon was right to keep Young from getting three fouls in the first half. He is needed on the floor at the end of games to close out wins. He is the rare center who has good ball handling skills and can hit foul shots.

Comment by Howard 12.09.14 @ 12:19 pm

good link Letterman thx.

Even others see how Pitt got screwed again.

Most of us are so used to it, that they’ve learned to live with it and accept being screwed as normal.

Comment by Emel 12.09.14 @ 12:24 pm

There is one (easy) fix to not getting screwed. Stop being mediocre.

Comment by Pitt IT Is 12.09.14 @ 12:29 pm

@ wbb

what do you call Niagara and Samford & Son ?
(this is not a trick question)

Comment by Emel 12.09.14 @ 12:38 pm

Robinson has been better offensively thus far, but he will never be a good defender. He doesn’t have reach or quickness. He was abused vs. IU. Last year Pitt at least had a second line of defense in Zanna when the guards were beaten off the dribble. No such cover this year. Actually Newkirk, for as quick as he is, is not much better.

Agree that getting Wright back will help vs. teams with one quick guard. But guard-oriented teams will haunt Pitt all year.

Comment by Iron Duke 12.09.14 @ 12:38 pm

a movie and a TV show?

Comment by wbb 12.09.14 @ 12:49 pm

@Pitt It is… Seriously??!! Somehow it’s Jamie’s fault and coaching is to blame that Cam Wright, a SR, leading returning scorer and best defensive player broke his foot. Yeah and while we’re at it let’s blame Jamie for Durand, a RS JR, getting suspended… probable starting SF and a decent chance to be this year’s leading scorer and a pretty good defensive player when he wants to be.

Pretty sure this is the primary reason for the “young” and “rebuilding” currently. I’m guessing if you take away 40% of the starting lineup from any top 25ish team they are gonna struggle a bit especially in the early season playing freshmen they hoped to redshirt.

Honestly, do some of you even think before you post nonsense???!!!

Comment by Pitt89 12.09.14 @ 1:49 pm

I’m not sure who’s complained about a lack of improvement in Jamie’s teams in past seasons, but that is certainly not the case. It may appears that way on paper due to week early schedules, but his teams always improve significantly as the season moves along (albeit, as Justin said, their seniority means it’s not a real steep improvement curve). This year will be really tough unless the D improves significantly, but one of the positives I’d add to the above is the unexpected contributions of Cam Johnson & Luther, especially Luther, which bode well for future hopes.

Comment by 1618mt 12.09.14 @ 1:52 pm

Pitt89 – well said!

Comment by notrocketscience 12.09.14 @ 2:07 pm

2 two foul rule isn’t a Dixon rule. It’s what happens in basketball. If you get fouls early you are going to sit. The only coach I’ve ever heard who is against sitting for foul trouble is Jeff Van Gundy who thinks just let the guys play because a minute at the beginning of the game is worth the same as at the end.

Comment by Wardapalooza 12.09.14 @ 2:28 pm

Two things: First, I think we would be a totally different and vastly improved team with Uchebo getting 20 minutes; Durand getting 15-20, and Cam getting 25-30. Totally different, all to the positive. (And yes I believe Uchebo is the real deal….summer league thru the Bahamas thru the few minutes he has gotten in the regular season he has shown that he is not afraid, has very good post moves, a nose for rebounding and solid defense…knees just can’t seem to allow him to play many minutes.

Second, with such a team, would be be 8-0? No. Probably, 6-2. I believe SD State and Indiana both played a little out of their heads as much as Pitt sucked it up.

That said, IF Cam shows he has made the kind of leap many other Pitt players have made from their Jr to Sr year (see: Patterson, Wannamaker, etc. etc. etc.), and IF Uchebo can give 15 minutes semi-consistently, I think we can still be a tournament team. And if the rest of the team jels by the end of the year, even a decent tournament team. Oh, and Mike Young needs to get HUNGRY. Play like you rule the court young man! Not realyl seeing a significant uptick from the Mike Young of last year, sorry.

Comment by DD 12.09.14 @ 4:58 pm

if it’s any consolation, IU’s PG is doing a good job penetrating against Louisville and IU s 7-10 on 3 pointers. But Lville is still up by 5 at the half

Comment by wbb 12.09.14 @ 10:32 pm

@ Iron Duke and others – there seems to be this perception that when Wright returns, he will be the same player (or better) he was before. Did you see his performance against Duquesne?

I’m taking a wait and see approach. I’m very concerned that this team will end up in the bottom half of the ACC come March due to the performances and efforts so far this year.

We need to see vast improvements through the rest of December (and should) if we are going to compete for a top five finish in the ACC this year.

The young part of this team looks promising, but what will Jamie be able to do with a team that lacks so much veteran & mature talent – I’m rooting for them all to succeed and will remain as optimistic as possible. BUT, and that is a big but, the way the Pitt FB team’s season materialized, I have a BAD feeling…

SOP – Slow Offensive Performances (doesn’t fit this BB team’s personality – C’mon Jamie – “push it, push it real good” – a little marketing help for Steve)

Comment by Erie Express 12.10.14 @ 6:42 am

Wright is coming back at thee right time. He will have a small handful of games to work himself in the lineup before the ACC starts.

Comment by wbb 12.10.14 @ 7:10 am

One of the problems with Young playing the five is that he is going to occasionally get in foul trouble. It is really hard for an undersized defender in the post to avoid getting foul calls. The defense functions better with a big body in the middle who can be a little aggressive and not worry about picking up fouls.

Cam Wright, when at 100%, will help, but he isn’t going to single handedly transform this team into an ACC title contender. He will help some on defense. He will be able to on offense by being able to find openings in the defense. And he can finish in transition.

Cam doesn’t address the two biggest areas of need, defensive presence in the paint and a consistent three point shooting threat.

The ACC is pretty top heavy. Duke is going to be really, really good. Louisville and Virginia are also strong. UNC is talented. Syracuse (is struggling now) and ND will win some games. But after that, there’s a pretty big drop. Pitt is middle of the pack. Cam Wright doesn’t change that…

Comment by Boubacar Aw 12.10.14 @ 10:13 am

I just loved watching Tom Crean’s boys get creamed last night by an ACC team 🙂

I wish Dixon could do that someday…

Comment by Jackagain 12.10.14 @ 6:15 pm

Here’s the starting lineup I’m expecting to see Saturday:

1. Robinson
2. Wright
3. Jones
4. Luther
5. Young

Reason: Defense, Defense, Defense, Defense, Defense.

Comment by Howard 12.10.14 @ 10:59 pm

Harris had a good piece on Luther in today’s Trib. Here is a selection in which Dixon comments about his defensive play:

“He’s smart. He’s physical. He doesn’t give up angles,” Dixon said after Pitt limited Duquesne’s high-scoring offense to a season-low point total on 37.3 percent shooting.

link to triblive.com

Comment by Howard 12.11.14 @ 7:38 am

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