April 28, 2014

Cullen Christian Ghosts Out

Filed under: Football,Transfer — Chas @ 7:44 am

I won’t lie. I didn’t even know Cullen Christian was still on the team.

After three years at Pittsbugh, Cullen Christian will be transferring to West Virginia.

Christian graduated from Pitt on Sunday, earning his degree in Administration of Justice. He will go on scholarship at West Virginia, where he will be enrolled in graduate school pursing a Masters in Sports Management.

“I know where I wanted to go after I graduate, and I’m going to West Virginia,” Christian said. “This is something I’m looking forward to. I’ve already started conditioning, and getting ready. I went to the spring game, which was cool. I got to meet the coaches. I’m going to go there this week and get my apartment set up this week. I’ll start school on (May) 19th.”

Christian transferred to Pitt in 2011, after playing as a true freshman at Michigan. After sitting out the 2011 season, due to the transfer rule, he started the first two games of the 2012 season, including the Cincinnati game where he had two pass breakups.

Christian will be reunited with defensive backs coach Tony Gibson for a third time in his career.

Not trying to be mean, but this isn’t much of a loss for Pitt. He wasn’t going to show up on the two-deep. He really never had much of an impact.

Congratulations on graduating. Good luck in West Virginia.

Reed, kids that come to Pitt with NFL aspirations would disagree with you. The elite athlete does not give a whit about the degree, they want to prepare to make a living at their chosen profession, football.

Wanny’s recruitment pitch was “I can prepare you for the NFL”

We just retired a guy’s jersey that went to the NFL after his sophomore season. Revis and Shady went early. If you don’t think that Pro Football is more important to these kids than winning one for the Gipper, you would be out of touch.

The modern coach has to consider what is in the best interest of the player, as well as the team.

When a kid has a concussion, he sits, even if it hurts the team.

Kids transfer at the drop of a hat.

Conner’s situation is remarkable because he appears to have the ability to succeed in two completely different skill sets. I hope he excels, whichever way it goes.

We wouldn’t be having this discussion if he wasn’t such an exceptional athlete, and like wbb said, if Chryst didn’t leave the door open a little bit.

Comment by gc 04.29.14 @ 4:19 pm

Tony, the way I read it Pitt is in with the schools wanting nine games. ND screwing things up again cause they are the ninth game every third? year?

Hopefully better depth helps the special teams.

8-4, sounds about right for the over under. Not terrible.

Comment by gc 04.29.14 @ 4:29 pm

The Real Definition of Swagger. I kid you not.

“In fact, the traditional form of the word’s first initial use is documented by William Shakespeare – a real poet that did not have to auto-tune his voice. The word first debuted in 1600 printing of the play A Midsummer Night’s Dream; the context of its use went along these lines: “What hempen homespuns have we swaggering here?” The correct definition of the word applies to carrying oneself in an insolent or supercilious manner. In short: the term connotes that swagger is displaying a dominance over others as if they are your inferiors.”

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WVU can keep “that swagger”. See you later Cullen. Don’t let the door hit you…

Comment by Atlanta Panther 04.29.14 @ 4:57 pm

This is probably nothing but it could be something

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Here is an excerpt from this story:

Referring to records, the attorneys said the victim was contacted by Franklin and Galt during a medical examination four days after the rape to explain “that they cared about her because she assisted them with recruiting.”

It went on to say that at some point, “Coach Franklin called her in for a private meeting and told her he wanted her to get fifteen pretty girls together and form a team to assist with the recruiting even though he knew it was against the rules. He added that all the other colleges did it.”

This is about the rape incident and records being destroyed. I would tend to think that the above is over-the-top sensualization (sic) but who knows?

Comment by wbb 04.29.14 @ 5:45 pm

Here is some food for thought for those thinking Dixon builds his record on cupcakes. I agree last seasons non con appeared absurdly soft. Here is some end of season comparisons that show the overall schedule to be typical of a top 20 program. Total games/games against NCAA teams
Syracuse 35/15 Duke 34/15 *UConn 40/18
Pitt 36/14 *national champs
Our overall schedule was very close to what everyone played. UConn as an example played a brutal non con but was in a softer conference. They played 4 more NCAA teams because they played 6 tourney games instead of 2.

Comment by spiritofsection22 04.29.14 @ 6:14 pm

wbb sounds like PSU material

Comment by alcofan 04.29.14 @ 6:16 pm

alcofan, this is starting to blow up on the national sites, so maybe there is something to it.

would have to think PSU people are getting nervous

Comment by wbb 04.29.14 @ 6:36 pm

Did Franklin ask her to form her pretty girl squad before or after she was raped? (allegedly)

What a seedy story. So they tried to cover it up by losing all the emails and texts, where have we heard that before?

Happy Happy Valley. Maybe one more guy (Franklin) to add to Spirit’s park bench. Good one, by the way.

Comment by gc 04.29.14 @ 6:42 pm

WVU has more swagger? Maybe he misspelled swigger.

Comment by 66Goat 04.29.14 @ 6:53 pm

If Franklin did indeed initiate the activity that resulted in rape, even though it of course wasn’t his intention, then the fact that it violated NCAA rules may be the LEAST of his problems

Comment by wbb 04.29.14 @ 7:07 pm

BTW, I meant ‘sensationalism’ in my post above @ 5:45 … it’s amazing the increased amounts of brain farts when you get old

Comment by wbb 04.29.14 @ 7:11 pm

Thirty years ago I attended an East Suburban Golden Panther Meeting held at the Monroeville Howard Johnsons (Monzo’s). Bill Fralich was introduced to the group as Pitt’s newest recruit. Bill answered questions about the recruiting process. When he was asked about his favorite part of the process he blushed a little (his Dad was there) and said,” the Hurricane Honeys.” He went on to explain that the Hurricane Honeys were coeds that met the football prospects at the plane when arriving for their visit to Miami. They escorted the players throughout their visit. He didn’t elaborate but mentioned he thought Pitt would be wise to establish a similar tactic. Looks like Franklin knows how to recruit. Check his car and see if he has gangster whitewalls and a fur interior.

Comment by spiritofsection22 04.29.14 @ 7:12 pm

Since WVCC is a glorified community college, they can get a lot more of those kids who have swag..and swagger.

Funny how that works.

Comment by Emel 04.29.14 @ 7:35 pm

@wbb, good job to break a story before the post gazette.

Now the PG is carrying this on their front page of their website.

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My statement is … here we go…

When Franklin was hired this was a huge smoking gun under the rug there and everyone blew past it because the DA said… at the time… Franklin did nothing wrong.

yet as well all such cases once people get close to trail then the real scrutiny happens and everyone has PIs out there looking for info.

I say this is going to get… at a minimum… “complicated” for Franklin.

I say more shoes drop as this goes….

Just think about it guys… 2 years after Sandusky and the supposed need to ‘change the culture”:

1. PSU hires a head coach from a team with 4 player implicated in a rape.. and this is a guy who said “interesting” things about women in public (radio interview about hot wives).

2. PSU hires a new president from a university when it is dealing with a potential rape case of its star player and accusations of cover up (FSU, Winston).

Wow… and now both of those cases are starting to heat up… and will potentially blow up.

And I bet people will say they were ‘surprised’ by all of this.

Comment by Pittscript 04.29.14 @ 9:15 pm

article states there is an accusation that Franklin told a player who had video of the incident to delete it…

and I guess the prohibited activity of getting 12 “pretty girls” to be with recruits was just an innocent thing… he just wanted these girls to take the recruits around campus and the go to McDonald’s get them a Big Mac… chat over a Coke about campus life….

Usually such activity is really referred to as a prostitution ring…

Comment by Pittscript 04.29.14 @ 9:21 pm

It’s being reported by the Daily Record that Randall got arrested for dwi

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Comment by Gordo 04.29.14 @ 9:22 pm

I would be shocked if the transfer from USC comes here..he wouldn’t get anywhere near his 17 ppg here at slow down university

Randall just bought his ticket outta here…good riddens!!

Comment by Keith 04.29.14 @ 9:37 pm

Keith, I agree. Unless Uchebo is not physically able to perform, I think Randall may be the one shown the door this year.

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Comment by wbb 04.30.14 @ 6:26 am

Looks like Penn State pulled a Haywood.

Comment by notrocketscience 04.30.14 @ 6:37 am

I read the article, Franklin would never do recruiting like that at Penn State – he wouldn’t be able to find 15 pretty girls :>)

Comment by pittman4ever 04.30.14 @ 6:40 am

@pittman4ever, I get the joke but although I agree with the sentiment (hate anything state),Penn St. is home to a ton of hotties. Even the WVU hoopies have a huge population of gals most of us would love to share an evening with. I refuse to dis these ladies simply because they root for the wrong team. I learned a long time ago you don’t throw them out of bed for eating crackers.

Comment by spiritofsection22 04.30.14 @ 8:39 am

@ TonyinHouston, your quote,”Paul Chryst is now looking to take another step forward in 2014 and build on the “slight progress” he made from his first season at the helm”. Personally, I feel that HCPC has made big strides from 2012 to 2013, it just didn’t show up in the W-L columns. He has had to tear things apart prior to rebuilding. That takes time and results are not self apparent for awhile when that occurs.

I don’t think that most of the Pitt fan base appreciated what a clusterfu*k Chryst walked into after Graham bailed on the team. It was apparent all was not right in Oakland when a bunch of last minute suspensions occurred on our home opener against YSU, and we all know how that one worked out for us?!

Chryst decided, early on in his tenure, that a decision needed to be made to produce a transformation of the mindset and the culture of that Pitt Panther Football team. This was required if he was to turn it into a team of his own image, but the process wasn’t pretty. AKA byebye Shell!

We should all thank the Lord that Pitt’s move to the ACC happened last year and not immediately when the agreement was forged with the ACC in 2012, because it could of been very ugly in the W-L dept in 2012, moving on against the better level of ACC competition right then. How outclassed Pitt actually was against faster teams, was self apparent in our bowl game with Ole Miss to end the season.

So we ended up 7-6 in our first year in the ACC. But actually it was a pretty exciting season. Think about it. We see a monster of a player culminate his senior season in dominating the post season award theater for linemen, thank you Aaron Donald for your services, another Pitt jersey #, soon to be retired. We witness the second coming of Larry Fitzgerald, right out of the starting blocks against FSU with Tyler Boyd, playing against the eventual national champs at our evening home opener no less!

We get into a basketball score like contest against the eventual Coastal Division champs and pull out a tough win at Duke. Then we follow that up with a serious statement win, once again in a night home game, on national TV, over the frickin Domers, SWEET!

Then to start off the 2014 campaign in the right frame of mind, we end up with a real storybook ending to the season by having a bunch of up and comers doing what Pitt hadn’t done for years, and that was get the Panthers a come from behind win to keep a winning season intact in the Pizza Bowl.

What a win, with Boyd and Conner having record breaking performances, and who doesn’t feel that Chad saved the day in the second half, both with his feet and his arm, replacing Savage in the second half? And please don’t bother informing me that this Bowling Green team was just a MAC upstart. That was a good “Championship” team that we beat the day after Christmas!

Now today we have to hear about Rushel Shell express how much “swagger” the Hoopies have down in Morganhole. Bullshit, the swagger that this Pitt Panther team is currently developing is one of quiet confidence and the attitude of “show me” on the field with performance.

Shell is a loser, and always will be for one simple reason, he continues to rely on his substantial natural ability that permitted him a state record breaking career in HS and not much else. He is a slacker! That “swagger” attitude alone isn’t going to provide him with the same results in college and if he fails to change his attitude, he’ll never see a NFL career happen.

Atlanta Panther so aptly stated, SWAGGER, the term connotes that swagger is “displaying a dominance over others as if they are your inferiors.” At 4-8 any swagger that WVU has is false bravado at best. Kind of like Franklin’s own bull$hit that he’s been peddling every since showing up at creepy valley. I bet the shit starts hitting the fan with him pretty soon also.
Poor state penn, so busy trying to clean the $hit off the one foot that they end up hopping into another pile of it in the process. Couldn’t happen to a more appropriate institution. “WE ARE,,,,,still in deep $hit, with more soon to follow, most likely.

So just watch this coming season, I think all of the honest hard work that this young Panther organization has been putting in, and I’m including the coaching staff in this “young” comment as well, will begin to bear fruit this season. I see us 5-1 going into our Thursday evening nationally televised battle against VT, if we can stay healthy up to that point in the season.

Another poster earlier said in this thread, that would make Pitt a “surprise” mid season ACC team, not for me it won’t, I expect it!

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 04.30.14 @ 11:34 am

“quiet confidence”. Well said Dr. Tom. There is so much potential on this team. Even if it doesn’t all come into its own this season it is going to be FUN to watch this offensive line mash opposing defenses in a year or two.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 04.30.14 @ 2:53 pm

Dr. Tom and Reed — good to hear we’ve got a little depth at DB, though it seems not a great deal of experience. I imagine he will switch some guys over from O to D if the 2nd-3rd stringers don’t look up to the job. Also agreed, do NOT take the ball out of Conner’s hands…ridiculous. Running for 100-150 yds per game next year is far more critical than getting a couple sacks over the course of a season…and what if some fat lineman chop blocks him and blows out his knee?

Comment by Matt N. 04.30.14 @ 3:37 pm

If swagger were points Russel Shell would be a college All American instead of a former High school star. It isn’t though so instead he is bench warmer on a losing team. Nobody transferred to nowhere equals nothing.

Comment by spiritofsection22 04.30.14 @ 4:02 pm

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