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March 1, 2014

Open Thread: Pitt-ND at Joyce

Filed under: Basketball,Open Thread — Chas @ 9:49 am

2 pm on ESPN2. Dave O’Brien and Doris Burke on the call.

Even if Pitt wasn’t struggling and a bit beat up, I’d be worried about this game. Losing five straight to a team will do that to you.

It just seems that much in the same way Pitt matches up well and knows what to do against Syracuse, Notre Dame does the same to Pitt.

“Whenever we play against Pittsburgh, it’s one of our biggest games of the season,” said Atkins, who leads Notre Dame in assists and steals. “I don’t think it’s going to be any different, another tough game on Saturday.”

Asked about Notre Dame’s success against the Panthers — Pitt hasn’t beaten Notre Dame since January 2009 and hasn’t won in South Bend since March 2005 — Atkins credits coach Mike Brey’s game plan.

Last season, Notre Dame limited the Panthers to 34 percent shooting and won the rebounding battle, 40-25. No Pitt player scored more than 11 points.

“We do a good job of scouting them and trying to take away their easy looks for their better players,” said Atkins, who contributed 10 points and seven assists in last year’s victory. “Also, limiting them on the backboards because they usually beat up teams offensive rebounding.”

Their defense has been solid, but the problem has been dealing with their offense. The Irish aren’t too far from Pitt’s adjusted tempo, but when they play Pitt they take it to the next level down.

The dreaded “burn” offense.

That means long possessions, running sets and grinding the game to a snail’s pace.

Dixon said the Irish could use that burn strategy again and if they do, the Panthers can’t get frustrated by it and instead need to play it possession by possession with great team defense.

“When I use the word patience, I mean defensive patience, as well,” Dixon said. “Offensively, we are looking to attack and get transition baskets, but at the same time if they are back and they are playing solid defense, and against good teams that is what is going to happen, you have to have the ability to wear people down and grind them out and that is what we need to get back to.

“It seems like they are running motion and similar stuff and we have to keep [Eric] Atkins in front of us. I think our defense has improved down this stretch of games and if you look at the numbers, it would bear that out.”

I would like to believe Pitt has learned and will be able to handle it. Then I look at the fact that Pitt has three freshmen who play key minutes and have never been through it.

Even without Jerian Grant, they have decent perimeter shooters that can hurt Pitt. Eric Atkins, Pat Connaughton and Demetrius Jackson all shoot better than 36% from outside the arc.

Really, offense hasn’t been a problem for ND this year. It’s been their defense. They don’t like to play it too often.

Part of why their slow grind offensive pace has worked so well is not simply that it wears on Pitt and players get impatient and mistake prone on defense. It’s that they get so thrown out of their rhythm that the Pitt offense suffers even more. And a team that knows to be patient on offense, suddenly is rushing shots and trying to speed up the game. In the 5-game losing streak, Pitt has struggled to get to 40% shooting.

Brace yourself accordingly.





When it comes to ND, think Duke as far as the offensive style goes. We have to play tight defense on the perimeter.

Comment by HbgFrank 03.01.14 @ 10:04 am

@@@@@

ND has good outside shooters and inside guys
who can score. Also they shoot a high
percentage from the free throw line. Close
game ahead.

Comment by JR 03.01.14 @ 10:20 am

So what’s the game plan, what do we need to do today at South Bend?

By the way, they’re forecasting a big winter storm here in Indiana, most of it coming later this evening. So win quickly, Panthers, and get the hell back home!

Comment by Lou 03.01.14 @ 10:29 am

Getting ready to watch this game is like getting ready to have your hemorrhoids cut out. Its going to be painful to watch, there’s the “burn” going on,and its going to be ugly. Hope we can pull the W out of our backside! Ouch

Comment by pittman4ever 03.01.14 @ 10:42 am

We really need to get this Irish monkey off our back. We have not won there since 2005. Now that is a home field advantage.

It is time to man up, the season is on the line.

Will this team finally show some intestinal fortitude, haven’t heard that one for a while, huh?

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 10:52 am

Good thing this game is not at the Pete. We seem to be more fired up on the road. We should win unless we revert to the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. Then we lose ugly.

Comment by TonyinHouston 03.01.14 @ 10:59 am

Zanna and Patterson have healed. Robinson and Wright will can open shots. Artis will have a coming out party. And…

we will win.

Comment by steve1 03.01.14 @ 11:03 am

Love the optimism, don’t know where it comes from, but I love it. Figure 51-46 final and hoping for the best.

Comment by cas myzlinski 03.01.14 @ 11:13 am

Pitt favored by 3.5. Best way to beat the burn……get ahead and stay ahead. Oh and a little backcourt pressure would help also!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 11:42 am

Scared to death about this game. It really wouldn’t shock me (not that it would be any less horrific to watch) if the final score was somewhere in the 41-38 range. And I’m not so sure Pitt would be on the winning side of it. So put an asterisk next to this game boys: Pitt either grinds out a win today and recovers just enough the rest of the way to help its seeding, or we hit rock bottom to mark the true beginning of the end to this season. It really is that big of a swing game, in my opinion.

Comment by WorkinOnMyPittness 03.01.14 @ 11:50 am

Put on a tie, Bray!!!!

Sorry, had to get that out of the way early.

Comment by JW 03.01.14 @ 12:09 pm

Bet the under!

Comment by Lou 03.01.14 @ 12:10 pm

Do we have to get Dave O’Brien for the ND game.

Comment by alcofan 03.01.14 @ 12:13 pm

7-6 Pitt, with ND missing a go ahead three pointer off the post at the buzzer.

Oh, basketball, not football. If basketball, 10-9 Pitt.

Close game but Pitt wins. Carpe’ Irish. Beat down the leprechaun.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 03.01.14 @ 12:15 pm

I’m worried about ND’s center Garrick Sherman, who’s a big guy with good moves to the basket dominating Zanna inside. I watched ND play Wednesday night and he looked good.

I also wonder why it is that we have to succumb to the style of play that ND dictates every time while we’re on offense?

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 12:23 pm

Choice today…gouging out eyes or watching Pitt basketball!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 12:41 pm

@Dan 72, take the gouging, your eyes will heal faster!!

Comment by Dan 03.01.14 @ 1:01 pm

Quick game note…Pitt was out rebounded 40-25 last year when we had Adams. I would not take Pitt and give the points in this one.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 1:14 pm

If we only had Micah Mason

Comment by alcofan 03.01.14 @ 1:16 pm

Is anybody watching the Cincy v UConn game? Cincy has scored 4 points in over 11 minutes in the second half.

Making our offense look Westheadian.

Comment by ECH 03.01.14 @ 1:38 pm

last year we went out to something like a 18 to 2 lead against ND and they still beat us going away. If ever we have to play more uptempo, I believe this is the game

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 1:44 pm

Good one Dan. And very true. At least. My fave Doris Burke will be chatting non stop. Could be worse and we could have Dickie V. Then I would want gouge my ears out!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:04 pm

No burn to start.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:07 pm

Unforced error #1 (dribble off of own foot)

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:08 pm

Zanna = weak to the hoop…

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:09 pm

Zanna in 45 seconds: Missed layup #1, fumbled rebound #1, fumbled rebound #2, missed layup #2.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:12 pm

this game is over folks

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 2:12 pm

Pitt off to usual start. Loose d on the perimeter has allowed nd wide open 3s See above for total futility on offense. Lucky to be down only 6

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:14 pm

Does that mean you won’t be posting anymore? Far from over.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:15 pm

Only thing that can save us are the kids. Zanna is a wimp

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 2:15 pm

As good as Talib Zanna played at BC, he’s missing the bunnies today. Zanna has to play well today for the Panthers to win.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.14 @ 2:16 pm

FINALLY a foul. Newkirk got mugged. Cam got mugged and almost had his legs taken out on that rebound.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:16 pm

Clanking all 3′s…

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:18 pm

Keith, was that post before or after the tip?

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 2:20 pm

Why don’t we pass it around for 32 seconds then jack up off balance3s..

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:22 pm

Will Pitt ever learn to defend the skip pass??

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:23 pm

Gotta hand it to Pitt . They are consistent. You know what you’re gonna get every game with this team:

Late lazy close out on wide open 3 pt shooters from Patterson 3-4 missed lay ups from Zanna. Poor shooting all around especially from 3.

This team is so hard to watch.

Comment by scott 03.01.14 @ 2:23 pm

Durand Johnson is still our 2nd best 3 point shooter. He CURRENTLY has 10 more made 3′s than our third best shooter still playing.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:25 pm

Pitt’s shooting 33.3% & 16.7%, ND’s shooting 70.0% & 66.7%

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:25 pm

Pitt lucky to be down only 10!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:25 pm

I’d like to see Randall and Newkirk get more minutes.

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 2:25 pm

Lamar had made several very good passes already.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:25 pm

wow…against a bad nd team

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 2:26 pm

Randall played a little better there. Hate being down double digits to ND, especially how slow they play. How about some perimeter D?

Comment by Pendlum 03.01.14 @ 2:26 pm

what’s interesting is Brey has decided not to play slogball. So he thinks he has better players/athletes than us.

And we if we keep playing defense like this …..

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:27 pm

if anyone has watched pitt ball..against ND..this games is as good as over…

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 2:27 pm

Terrible start.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 2:27 pm

Maybe the worst defensive effort of the year so far. We are not stopping anything. Pitt lucky got be down only 12

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:27 pm

ND shooting 77%. We are not.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 2:27 pm

Yea you said that before Keith #redundant

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 2:29 pm

The Panthers are making Notre look like they’re a really good team.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.14 @ 2:29 pm

this game will be over at the half if JD doesn’t put a charge into these guys

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:29 pm

Let the eye gouging begin. Team really looks excited to play!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:29 pm

Notre Dame has two guys with 50+ 3 pointers made. 5 guys with more than 20 made. We have one player with more than 20.

WOW.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:29 pm

Awful defensive effort. ND getting easy shots. Pitt doing nothing against ND zone. Putrid hoops.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 2:30 pm

Pitt may win one more game before Selection Sunday…two tops, including the ACC Tournament.

This is a bubble team in the making….

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:30 pm

Going to switch over to Wichita state game.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 2:31 pm

Oh I’m sorry guys…..I meant to say…the effort looks great…there shooting great and it looks like they’ve put it together…..says the most unrealistic of you pitt fans…

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 2:31 pm

We don’t do anything well. At least play defense. At least an ugly girl can cook

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 2:32 pm

You only watch to cheer against Pitt, so there’s that

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 2:33 pm

nice little comeback…keep it up !

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:34 pm

Good thing Wright is playing decent, rest of team looks like they are sleeping!

Comment by Jimbo 03.01.14 @ 2:35 pm

bad Boubacar…r u serious

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:35 pm

Yup Emel. Defense has looked poor at times but they’re hitting everything. We’re working our way back!

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 2:35 pm

Randall better than the ice cream man

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 2:35 pm

Imagine if Zanna had made one of the two layups he missed and we made one of the 6 3pters we missed.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:36 pm

i think we have one 3 pointer by Wright CN

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:38 pm

Imagine if Dixon recruited shooters….

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:38 pm

Randall if allowed by coach could control the paint today. If he started would be close game. Naturally Dixon will pull him just as he’s in the flow.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 2:39 pm

ND has competent big men…so that could spell trouble for Z

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:39 pm

actually I don’t…..I point out the major flaws with this team (JD) and I’ve been consistant with that for two-three years…HIS players are playing HIS system…and if anyone can feel good about the product for the past few years is kidding themselves….blar and young aren’t walking thru any door anytime soon!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 2:39 pm

Yep. We are 1-7 from 3.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:40 pm

Another great first half from Patterson….1-8 with 4 points.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:41 pm

Doris is right. Pitt picked up defensive intensity big time.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 2:41 pm

fook..they keep getting these 3 point plays when we’re about to take the lead

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:43 pm

Pitt leaving Atkins open for 3s hoping his arm gets tired from shooting

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:43 pm

Patterson being off wouldn’t be so bad if he would play better defense.

Comment by cas myzlinski 03.01.14 @ 2:44 pm

Dan_72, they didn’t “leave” him open. Their guy threw a 40 foot cross court bullet out of a trap.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:45 pm

We made the final shot of the half!!!!!

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 2:45 pm

wow Newkirk with the big bomb !!!

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:45 pm

Connaughton, 1985 called, they want their hairdo back. Seriously? Truth be told, I did have that exact do 25+ years ago.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 2:47 pm

Connaughton beats Cam and Lamar for three, what a shock

Comment by cas myzlinski 03.01.14 @ 2:47 pm

good surge the second half of the first half…let’s see if JD can “coach” them up

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 2:47 pm

Newkirk had a great half.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 2:47 pm

Notre Dame 7 for nine for threes and we are still in it, amazing.

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 2:47 pm

BIG ANSWER BY NEWKIRK!

Comment by Justinian 03.01.14 @ 2:48 pm

Chas. I don’t care how they got the ball to him. He was open as have a lot of their shooters on skip passes. ND overloading one side and reversing the ball at will. Thank u Nuke for that last shot!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:48 pm

Who’s man is Pat Connaughton, kid is killing us with 17 points ?? 4 of 4 from 3

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:48 pm

On ND last 3 ND #11 was planted in the paint for 5 seconds. On Cam’s steal he was tripped no call. Pitt will have to score 40 points in 2nd half to win; will have to beat ND by 10 to beat them by 2 on the scoreboard.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 2:49 pm

Who’s guarding (cough) Connaughton….Patterson?

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:49 pm

At least called traveling on Sherman, kid was dancing in the lane.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:50 pm

I hope the slow start by Zanna doesn’t come back to haunt us, be he really turned it on, as has Wright, Patterson, and Newkirk. Even Robinson made a much needed three.

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 2:50 pm

Consistently annoying. No one would say otherwise unless they were, well, also you

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 2:51 pm

Notso great half from our starting power forward. 0 field goals, 1 rebound, 1 TO. Thank goodness for Cam. He needs to go for another 10 in the second half.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 2:51 pm

Connaughton’s a guard, so it’s either Robinson or Wright i would imagine

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:51 pm

Here we go again with a career game for somebody who is good, but not 17 pts and 5 3s in one half good. I get tired of that s@#$! Overall, not too bad. It sure would be nice to get some offensive contribution from Young. If he’s hurting, then give Artis more minutes.

Comment by Carmen 03.01.14 @ 2:51 pm

He took who ever was guarding him to the lane for a 3 point play as well.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:52 pm

yep Carmen…Connaughton’s only avg’g 13.3 ppg, 43 % FG….36% from 3

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:53 pm

Keith, it’s cool to point out Pitt’s flaws, we all do; but if you’re gonna declare the game over at the 18 minute mark of the first half, why not just declare it over before it begins?

Pitt may not win this game, but you know basketball is a game of ebb and flow. At least let it play out a little while, then when it is slipping away you can rip them with the rest of us.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 2:54 pm

I think one of the announcers said…Young was our best post defender….did I miss something..since when

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:55 pm

Newkirk and Randell are really playing well. Cam Wright’s jump shots have really helped Pitt in this game. We need to play the 2nd half like the Panthers finished the 1st half. At one point Pitt went on 14 to 2 run. They’ve playing much better now offensively. Just need to keep up the defensive intensity.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.14 @ 2:55 pm

We are kingmakers on the basketball court! Old School …couldn’t agree more . Pitt will not win a close game today and yet I hope we can keep it close. Still fear a ND blowout

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 2:56 pm

It’s either Patterson or Wright guarding him….or both switching.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 2:57 pm

Boubacar, nice call on the haircut.

To be fair 2 of Connaughton’s 3′s were well contested. He can’t stay this hot…can he???

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 2:57 pm

Once upon a time, Pitt use to come out of the locker room after halftime…with much energy and a big run to change the entire momentum of the game.

Still waiting for that this year…

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 2:57 pm

Connaughton had 70 made 3ptrs coming into this game. Lamar had (and still has) 60 by comparison.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:00 pm

Nice hit Young!

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 3:03 pm

Pace of game favors Pitt.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 3:04 pm

and Pitt has the lead! Where you at Keith? haha

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 3:06 pm

and we take the lead !!!

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:06 pm

Is it me or is Doris Burke making a lot of sense?

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 3:06 pm

Cam Wright playing his gonads off.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 3:06 pm

emel…you may have got your wish…pitt’s come out a different team….let’s see if we can continue

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:07 pm

Outstanding feet, questionable hands.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:08 pm

Wocircus shot Lamar! Pitt basketball is sooo boring

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 3:08 pm

great shot by Lamar….lol Boubacar..i think we’re getting old…..

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:09 pm

For most Pitt-ND games, 47-45 is a final score. Agree pace is favoring Pitt.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 3:09 pm

not sure why ND is not using the BURN offense…hopefully they don’t start..especially f they get the lead

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:11 pm

You spea the truth Iron. 51-42 was the final last time we played.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:11 pm

Speaking of getting old, anybody else notice the 2 young Irish hotties sitting behind the Pitt bench?

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 3:11 pm

Dixon is sitting down…that’s a good sign….lol

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:11 pm

Cam on Connaughton.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:12 pm

Newkirk!!!

Comment by Mailman 03.01.14 @ 3:12 pm

Nuke has arrived!

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 3:12 pm

Newkirk!!!!

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 3:12 pm

Nuke! Shooting well..

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:12 pm

Newkirk…wow we came out of the locker room…like the old days ,,,perhaps a good omen

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:13 pm

Love Nuke (and Doris)

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:13 pm

Keith, ND are not as good defensively this year, guess they think they need to score more to win.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 3:13 pm

this is a team that I have NOT seen this year!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:13 pm

the faster pitt plays it seems the better they play?

Comment by goalie44 03.01.14 @ 3:14 pm

@ Iron missed them…but i did the Irish dance girls in Green halter tops…..lol

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:14 pm

goalie..i think we’d al like to see them speed up the pace more??

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:15 pm

We have the lead but if we keep allowing nd to reverse the ball to open players we will not win

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:17 pm

Robinson has the 2nd most 3 pointers made on our team.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:18 pm

If we had 5 players like Lamar..we’d be awesome!!.dude just knows how to play the game

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:19 pm

Huge plays by Lamar !!

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:19 pm

Congrats Lamar…on 1000 points, 500 rebounds, 400 assists.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:20 pm

DID WE REALLY JUST TAKE LAMAR OUT OF THE GAME????!!!!!

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:20 pm

Love the enthusiasm on the Pitt bench today. That I notice means it is not always there.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 3:22 pm

Who’d gonna be next year’s Lamar??…his game has improved dramaticly this year

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:22 pm

Nobody for JD to yank him off the court with…since Moore transferred…keith

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:23 pm

Patterson is smiling and the team seems to be having fun. Jamie’s demenour is more relaxed and the team is playing loose.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 3:23 pm

I hope Lamar was winded because to take him out after making those two incredible plays is mindboggling.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:25 pm

Pitt up while ND is shooting 64.3% from the field, 61.5% from 3 and 100% FT’s.

OK, lets keep it up?!?

Comment by TVax 03.01.14 @ 3:25 pm

Pitt is doing the slow burn? Gotta play fast. I don’t understand

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 3:28 pm

are we going into ‘burn’ mode already

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:29 pm

if freakn zonna could only make layups!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:29 pm

Think how good Zanna would be if he could make lay ups.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 3:29 pm

Every game the same thing…the other team shoots 90-100% from the FT line…

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:30 pm

why would pitt no play with the flow they did early this half….doesn’t make sense

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:31 pm

That was a terrible call on Wright.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:31 pm

Our guys get hit…no foul. Their guys get touched, it’s a foul.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:32 pm

zanna made a layup!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:32 pm

Newkirk really starting to get it. Needs to be on the court more.

Whether it’s at the same time as Robinson or it means less minutes for JR. Robinson is regressing while Newkirk is getting better. Robinson is the most disappointing player on the team in my opinion.

Notre Dame in the bonus and has not missed a foul shot yet. That can’t be good…

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:33 pm

Hyperbole alert. This is the most important 7:00 of our season.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:33 pm

Patterson…best pitt passer since?????

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:34 pm

Pap76….agree with newkirk..and robinson

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:35 pm

z….meh

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:37 pm

That Conn guy w the ankle back. He probably will be the one to beat us at the buzzer

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:37 pm

Zanna was open and took the shot. Nothing wrong with that unlike the TV commentator commentating about bad shot.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 3:37 pm

since Brandon Knight…keith

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:37 pm

Why is Zanna taking that shot? Come on boys! Stay focused. Need this W bad!

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:38 pm

Pitt is going to win this game. The Domer’s are on the ropes.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 3:38 pm

Grrrrrr.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:40 pm

Should be up 7 with the ball.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:41 pm

this game is right there for the taking…are we going to close it out ???

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:41 pm

Young w 3 brain farts in a row. C’mon man!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:41 pm

It’s like they don’t want to win. Zanna – turnover. Patterson – turnover. Young – misses wide open man for a layup. It’s.just.too.much.

Comment by Carmen 03.01.14 @ 3:42 pm

Were doing everything to keep them in the game. If this comes down to a final possession we’ll deserve the outcome.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 3:42 pm

need another 3 point shooter in the game to stretch the defense…for Lamar to get into the lane….put Newkirk back in

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:43 pm

JRob is due for another big shot.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:43 pm

I don’t blame Young on that one. Patterson either needs to go up strong or deliver the pass to Young’s chest, so he can catch and shoot, not to his feet.

Comment by Carmen 03.01.14 @ 3:43 pm

z….smh

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:45 pm

Patterson passes up a wide open 10 footer in the last possession. Neverthelss, Nuke makes the nice drive, misses the bunny. Too.Much.

Comment by Carmen 03.01.14 @ 3:45 pm

Pitt has not scored since 6:22. Wow

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:46 pm

not another scoring draught

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:47 pm

Robinson is just terrible right now. He is playing with zero confidence.

If he is turning the ball over he has zero value to this team.

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:48 pm

Pitt blowing one opportunity after another. What else is new?

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:48 pm

Lamar right now

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 3:48 pm

Jr worthless on o!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:49 pm

Ay-yi-yi, another under 5 dry spell. This team lacks the ability to close out games.

Wen Jamie starts calling time outs and drawing up plays, I get nervous.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 3:49 pm

My God! Can’t even hit the rim on a layup!

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:49 pm

I can only hope that Nuke passes JR next year as PG. We need more than 3 points from the position.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:50 pm

hahahaha…Young with the miracle

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:51 pm

Another close loss in final minutes will kill this team’s confidence.

Have to get out of here with a win…

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:53 pm

Huge rebound Wright! Kid is all hustle

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:54 pm

Fuuuuuuuuuuu,,,kkkkk

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:54 pm

UGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:55 pm

It never ends for this team.

Comment by Mailman 03.01.14 @ 3:55 pm

Good thing we are so good at end of half/game scenarios.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:55 pm

Awful ft miss by Cam and the obligatory 3 by ties the game. Lord we suck

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:55 pm

6.1 seconds from the bubble if they screw this up. Wright had to make 1 FT…

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:55 pm

7.7 for the ncaa

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:56 pm

Who takes the shot? 7.7 plenty of time for a good look.

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:57 pm

Nuke for the win…

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 3:57 pm

wtf…

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:58 pm

JR

Comment by TVax 03.01.14 @ 3:58 pm

Did Dixon call that TO?

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:58 pm

wtf???…absolute terrible timeout by dixon

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 3:58 pm

total mismatch….and calls timeout?????

Comment by dallas mike 03.01.14 @ 3:58 pm

Our coach is an asshole

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 3:58 pm

Another time out? Really??

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

micromanage us to another loss…lamar had a great matchup…unbelievable

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

Good for you Lamar. Over-coached. Terrible.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

wTF Jamie???????? More great coaching late by Pitt u f ni gh

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

Patterson did miss the layup fwiw, stand by my prediction.

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

Any Dixon defenders out there?

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

Dixon again shows he has NO idea how to manage the last minutes of a game. NO idea. No you have 2.8 seconds to run something. They may still win, but that is coaching malfeasance.

Comment by Carmen 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

Dixon over managing the game again….idiot.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 3:59 pm

absolutely ridiculous…if we lose this game…it’s on Dixon…uncalled for…wow

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 4:00 pm

Gordo…he chucked that up after the TO….no way he misses that. Dixon = idiot.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 4:00 pm

he drew up a play for your worst shooter….lmao..and stopped lamar from going in for the winning layup…brilliant

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:00 pm

Unbelievable.who called that time out? Total BS.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 4:00 pm

I am joining the Dixon bashers, are you kidding me?

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 4:01 pm

Fire Him if pitt loses

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:01 pm

WOW! No need for TO if Patterson misses it’s OT.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 4:01 pm

I think I may be done with Dixon. Stunned.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 4:01 pm

why am I the only one that gets heat for making remarks about Dixon????….that’s ridiculous!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 4:01 pm

Even Doris is killing him

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:01 pm

I’d love to know what the [heck] that Jamie Dixon was hoping to accomplish with that timeout. That was moronic, no other word for it.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 03.01.14 @ 4:01 pm

How many games hasJamie cost this team??

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:02 pm

You call a time out and take it out of your best players hand in a one on one situation, and end up letting a guy who can barely hit rim take the final shot?

Too much coaching. Sometimes you just have to let the kids play…

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 4:02 pm

WHAT BONEHEAD TIME-OUT BY DIXON!

Comment by Justinian 03.01.14 @ 4:02 pm

We scored 2 points in the last 6 minutes 25 seconds..when we have ALL THE MO…..cause he went to the slog burn

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:02 pm

Continuing to gouge eyes!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:02 pm

Dixon is losing me… end of game micromanagement and not having confidence in his players… nor giving them confidence.

Just does not seem to do well in crunch time and that energy is conveyed to his team….

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 4:02 pm

very most likely Jack

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:02 pm

Worst coach in America in final 4 minutes

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:03 pm

Dixon lost me today.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:03 pm

I’m done with JD. I’m just sick.

Of course, if Wright hits that front end, or if they don’t commit 3 turnovers in their last 7 possessions, Dixon probably never gets the chance to f#$% it up.

Comment by Carmen 03.01.14 @ 4:03 pm

Pitt w1fg and 1ft in the last 6:22

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:03 pm

second game this year!!

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 4:03 pm

That was goal tending!

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 4:03 pm

will zanna ever learn not to bring the ball down to his waist….nOPE

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:04 pm

right carmen but also I am with john…

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 4:04 pm

I wish they just got blown out. I fucking hate watching pitt sports.

Comment by Chris 03.01.14 @ 4:04 pm

Can not defend Jamie on this debacle

Comment by Pittman4ever 03.01.14 @ 4:05 pm

Cmon Lamar carry us home and pick your coach up

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:05 pm

To be fair. Cam makes a foul shot, we’re probably be celebrating already. Not to take away from freak out by Dixon.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 4:05 pm

Patterson should just take these guys and say listen to me not anyone on that bench

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:05 pm

Lamar trying to save his coach’s blunders

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:05 pm

all year Pitt consistently misses the big shots at the end of the game… hence all the close games and loses.

Channeling their coach…

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 4:05 pm

Self inflicted wound by the coach. He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. I will go on record to say that the TO might be the straw that lost this team and the fans. Dixon is struggling.

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 03.01.14 @ 4:07 pm

Lose today no ncaa

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 4:07 pm

Doris for coach

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:07 pm

Again ND either drives and passes or reverses the ball to wide open 3 shooter. Just once could we look for that?

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:08 pm

Hooooorible.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:09 pm

Of course the call goes to nd

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:09 pm

Tight

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:09 pm

Is there anything more difficult than being a Pitt fan?

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:10 pm

I have to agree with Pitt fan. Jamie is struggling. Collectively his coaching in the last 4 minutes of every game for the last 8, Helo really since the Maryland win, has been really poor.

Comment by DD 03.01.14 @ 4:10 pm

some good passes today at least. cmon pull this one out fellas

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:10 pm

If there was 15 seconds left and your guys are gummed up outside the arc, fine Jamie Dixon, call a timeout and re-set.

But your best player just blew past his man and is driving an open lane to the basket? And with only 2.8 seconds left, no time to re-set? I’m speechless.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 03.01.14 @ 4:10 pm

I’m being serious. I don’t think I have ever seen a time out called in a situation like that.

That is just a slap in Lamar Patterson’s face.

A team is a reflection of their coach. Why is this team so bad in the final 2+ minutes of games. It is because their coach is terrible in the final 2+ minutes of games.

I am just dumbfounded right now…

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 4:10 pm

Time for Jamie to micro manage

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:11 pm

If Jamie blames this on free throws………..

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:12 pm

Robinson air ball ft?

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:12 pm

ND is 16-17 on Ft’s…

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 4:12 pm

I have been saying the team is a reflection of it’s coach for two years now!!…Dixon is done..and it’s about time some of you are realizing that!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 4:13 pm

Brooklyn Baby!

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:13 pm

Get a stop

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:13 pm

wow..lamar!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 4:14 pm

LP should punch Jamie after this game

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:14 pm

time for JD to F things up!!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 4:14 pm

lamar doing everything humanly possible to drag this team to a win

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:14 pm

If I’m Lamar Patterson, I want to fight Dixon in the parking lot.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:14 pm

My God! Come on

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 4:14 pm

Can we close out on any 3pt shooter? We are making heroes

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:14 pm

All year long, groundhog day

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 4:15 pm

12-23 on 3′s…yikes…

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 4:15 pm

Rookie mistake, but Young’s played better tonight just like Newkirk and you could argue Randall a bit

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:15 pm

Dear God, we still have a to

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:15 pm

Young got burned on the the 3 to tie it in regulation and the 3 that was reviewed in addition to that last one.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 4:15 pm

omg JD is drawing up a play…lol

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:16 pm

Use the clock Jamie.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 4:16 pm

true CNAZ

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:16 pm

JD needs to realize it isn’t 1956 and the 3 point shot does exist. How many game-tying and game-losing threes does this team have to give up before he gets it?

Comment by deepelemblues 03.01.14 @ 4:17 pm

Press is coming. Uh oh

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:17 pm

Thank you ref

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:17 pm

Great we still have a to

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:17 pm

box out!

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:19 pm

Been tough on Robinson. Rightfully so. But, 4 really big free throws.

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 4:19 pm

Come on lamar

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:19 pm

LP should call a to before he shoots

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:19 pm

i’m 28. pitt sports will give me a heart attack before i’m 30. i can’t handle this shit

Comment by usd121 03.01.14 @ 4:19 pm

Unreal

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:20 pm

Patterson with a monstrous brain fart

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:21 pm

Are you kidding me Patterson? They finally miss a 3, and you do that!

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 4:21 pm

cmon! finally some luck

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:21 pm

Zanna makes one. Nd hits three. Nit.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:21 pm

i hate going to the dentist

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:21 pm

Zanna at line I’m getting a syr flashback

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:21 pm

Zanna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 4:22 pm

Hey Jamie still has a time out!!

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:22 pm

10.8 left up by 3…looks like another OT…lol.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 4:22 pm

Can lightening strike the same place 17 times?

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 4:22 pm

My heart can’t take this.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 4:23 pm

nothings ever easy…with JD as our leader

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 4:23 pm

Please foul Pitt do NOT give up a 3!!!!!!!!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:23 pm

You cannot argue Pitt basketball is boring. I’m sorry you have zero argument

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:23 pm

How about a foul on a 3 for a 4 pt play to end it.

Comment by TVax 03.01.14 @ 4:23 pm

It may make you want to knaw your fingers off, but hey

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:24 pm

Wow…Dixon figured out to foul up by 3…

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 4:24 pm

Calling it just so it doesn’t happen!!!

Comment by TVax 03.01.14 @ 4:24 pm

Since there’s no legit reason for that timeout, lemme try to read Jamie Dixon’s mind on that brain-fart timeout: “Hmmm, my best player just beat his man and is driving an open lane to the hoop with 2.8 seconds left for a game winning basket … so I better use my last timeout here — can’t take it with us — and encourage our guys to play hard and win.”

Am I close?

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 03.01.14 @ 4:24 pm

I wish we had let another second or two to come off before that foul. But I won’t nit pick.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 4:25 pm

good foul even if Jamie didnt call it

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:26 pm

Pitt covered?

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 4:28 pm

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 4:28 pm

Waiting for LP to punch him

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:28 pm

wow, let’s hope this is a learning experience to unwind a little bit. Fairly clutch FT shooting down stretch, cept for Cam

Comment by Gordo 03.01.14 @ 4:29 pm

THERE IS A GOD.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.14 @ 4:29 pm

See Keith!! STFU!!!!

Kidding you, I am definitely shaken by this and have always felt JD’s anal tightness was a problem.

Comment by TVax 03.01.14 @ 4:30 pm

Another close OT win against a bum team…still no bad loses though. (except for maybe FSU at the Pete)

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.14 @ 4:30 pm

Yeah !!!!

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:31 pm

Jamie was bailed out of that one

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 03.01.14 @ 4:31 pm

Pitt did cover if you were fortunate enough to only lay 3.5 points…lol

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:32 pm

And you earned your money on that one ! :-)

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:33 pm

Our kids bailed Jamie out on this one. Nice job of team free throw shooting down the stretch. We never beat the Irish , we did today. YES!!!!!!

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.14 @ 4:33 pm

Jamie new we had them all the way , he just wanted to cover.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.14 @ 4:34 pm

Good Lord…
Between us puckering up at the end of games, and the micromanagement of possessions, it is time for Dixon to reassess his approach. I have suspected, but am now convinced now that it is on Dixon. How many game this year have we turtled in the last 5 minutes?

And yet it shouldn’t have mattered, except another team has a season best shooting day against Pitt. We are cursed in that way.

Lastly, let me just say “F” Notre Dame. Even with all our issues, still great to beat that team of AV Club members.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 4:37 pm

I loved Dixon, but oh my God!; what a mistake!

Still can we get a better coach? Who would you go after?

Another school would pick him up in a NY minute.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.01.14 @ 4:38 pm

Pitt had 17 more rebounds than ND and 21 offensive rebounds.

You should be able to rout a middling team like ND with those advantages.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:41 pm

When’s the last time Zanna has missed a clutch free throw?

Comment by Lou 03.01.14 @ 4:41 pm

A win is a win is a win. I thought Pitt had no chance in this game. A real grind it out performance. But you just never come away, with Dixon at the helm, ever being really satisfied. There seem to be 4 consistent things about Pitt under Dixon – (1) low basketball IQ as a team (2) poor 3 point defense, (3) can’t stop dribble penetration, and (4) terrible foul shooting. All of these are correctable – but not at Pitt, apparently. The one thing that has bailed his ass out repeatedly – rebounding.

Jamie has 9 more years to figure it out, so there is always hope.

Comment by PO'd Panther 03.01.14 @ 4:42 pm

That frickin ND BB monkey has finally been bucked off Pitt’s back, then firmly grasped by the neck and appropriately strangled in OT in their own house, sweet!!!!!

BTW, Dan72, your sir, are an enormous negative energy bore!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.01.14 @ 4:42 pm

We won this game twice!

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 4:42 pm

Watching UVa v. Cuse now. Virginia reminds me so much of what Pitt was before the last 3 years and still strives to be. They are efficient without hesitation.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 4:43 pm

they had 16 turnovers in addition to our 9.

and we were 86% from FT line, 24 of 28.

These numbers don’t add up to the struggle we had.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:43 pm

He is in post game interview now. Didn’t admit he made a mistake. “Called the time out because he didn’t like the spacing”?

Disappointed he did not admit he made a mistake.

I thought he was above that.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.01.14 @ 4:43 pm

You had exactly the matchup you want, your best player going with his natural hand with an unobstructed lane in the waning moments and you call a time out. More evidence that Dixon can’t feel the flow, has no intuit. This was one of the dumbest coaching calls I’ve ever seen. Intuition is part of the makeup of the great coaches in any sport. Credit to Lamar & team for winning this game twice in spite of his coach. Maybe Dixon will save someone from a burning car tonight. Pitt would have had two final fours with a complete coach.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 4:43 pm

And they pay him 2M a year for that wonderful display of coaching.

Archie Miller – Would recruit both Dixon and Slices shorts off.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.01.14 @ 4:43 pm

And Lou, you are right – Zanna played his ass off. Against a big front line. Kudos to him.

Comment by PO'd Panther 03.01.14 @ 4:44 pm

ND shot unbelievable but still lost because they did not rebound. But we cannot get a basket near the end of a game. We need to make those open shots near the game end. Now beat NCS on Monday at 9 pm on ESPNU. Move to 11 – 6 in ACC.

Comment by Frank 03.01.14 @ 4:44 pm

Jamie better send Zanna and Patterson some very nice fruit baskets, because they really saved his keister, bailed him out of a loss situation he wouldn’t have been able to explain away…

Our guys showed some real poise in regrouping after that JD brain fart. Frankly, history taught me to believe we’d fold in OT.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 03.01.14 @ 4:45 pm

From you Dr Tom, that is quite a compliment. Thank you

H2p!

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 4:48 pm

I was worried when Pitt still had four time outs in regulation. I knew Jamie would pull a Jamie. Thank goodness for our great FT’s at end of OT.

Jamie, you’re going to give me a coronary.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 4:49 pm

2 points in the last 6 and half minutes, that is GroundHog Day…him wanting to play slog ball burn…killed all the MO…we had built up and that which had gotten us the big run after halftime.

We were lucky they only scored 7 points in the time frame,,, until they hit the 3 with 8 seconds left.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 4:50 pm

We better be up 20 at the 4 min to on Monday, that should be enough to prevent jd from blowing another one

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 4:52 pm

Hilgrove and Groat did not question him on the time out. I did not hear their comments during the game, when it actually happened. I will want to replay that game on Al Access.

I’m still shacking my head.

Miller would not leave AZ. My fraternity brother, Dr. Coull is a Neurologist out there if he is not retired

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.01.14 @ 4:54 pm

Im sorry but Jamie Dixon needs to be re-evaluated. People commenting on him over-coaching is so TRUE its just blows my mind. I’m so frustrated with him running all over the players having to look over to him in the middle of a play then turning the ball over. He needs a talking to by someone to let the kids play LP had a great driving lane one on one and Jamie completely screws up. I’ve been a fan of Jamie’s for so long but he is making so hard for this team.

Comment by Nate_PittPanfan 03.01.14 @ 4:55 pm

Doris Burke said enough-don’t need hillgrove and groat toeing the sp company line. Jamie was saved cuz LP kept his composure most players would say F U to a coach that took the game out of their hands

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 5:00 pm

Did any of you notice we won?

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.14 @ 5:01 pm

Team could’ve folded in overtime, but they didn’t. Feels good to snap the losing streak at ND. H2P.

NC State got rolled by Miami at home today.

Comment by Mailman 03.01.14 @ 5:01 pm

what was funny now since we won, is he took the ball out of Lamar’s hands who had a ND big on him, and was about to blow by him….and after the timeout…put the ball into the team’s worst shooter who was 1 for 8 FG’s and had thrown up several airballs.

You can’t make this stuff up.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 5:03 pm

Until I’m proven otherwise, he is the worst coach on America in final 4 minutes of games

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 5:04 pm

PO’d P, you raise good points, but I think the Panthers have shot better from the FT line, almost 86% in this game. They might be shooting as well across the board as they have in the past half-dozen years.

Comment by Lou 03.01.14 @ 5:05 pm

Spirit it is a nice road win, BUT there are glaring issues with JD and if you don’t see it then I don’t know what to say to you

Comment by John 03.01.14 @ 5:08 pm

I’m very happy we won, cause I hate losing period.

But to put this into context, ND had a 114 RPI,

so our RPI will actually probably gone down, even with the win.

Miami is #113 and Va Tech is #226 and all these teams took us to Overtime, Va Tech, Double OT.

Something is amiss, as these dreg teams (and you can include BC at #185) should not be taking us to Overtimes or close games.

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 5:12 pm

Young and Newkirk were huge today. Those two threes by Newkirk were huge! Young’s rebounds and put backs were huge. And Young’s free throws down the stretch were unbelievable!

And beating Notre Dame at Notre Dame! When was the last time that a Pitt team did that?

Comment by Howard 03.01.14 @ 5:12 pm

This was a very big win for Pitt’s confidence going into the Tournament. The game was going well for Pitt in second half until Jamie started to microjamie. I know I’m overly critical at Jamie and should be happy that Pitt won. Hopefully, Jamie will take deep breath’s instead of stopping momentum when there is no need to. After all if Patterson misses a layout it’s OT.

Comment by MariettaMike 03.01.14 @ 5:13 pm

I have the biggest headache after this game its unreal. Listen I’m a huge fan and don’t like to be negative but if we lost you have to put the L on JD. Yes the team made some ridiculous turn-overs at the end and have a tough time defending the 3 but Jamie needs to take a different approach and let the kids play. If you notice during the game he is running around forcing the players to look over briefly then we turn it over.

Comment by Nate_PittPanfan 03.01.14 @ 5:14 pm

Dixon is now entering the realm where Wannstedt ended up… there was a sense there was no more forward movement, that the program was ‘stuck’ stale… My comment is not whether it was or not (not trying to open that argument).

My point is the perception of this coach is now shifting and once it does it moves within a season or 2 if the program does not break through and shift to the next level.

And with the program’s stability and now in ACC Pitt does not have to be insecure to think it cannot go get an excellent coach for any of its major programs.

And what will accelerate this shifting perspective is when he does things that clearly hurt his team in critical moments or games of pressure.

This is the second time this season he called a timeout at the end. With Syracuse it gave a hall of fame coach and his team time to breath and figure out their last play.

Today it snatched defeat from the jaws of victory… luckily the team fought back.

This coach has to evolve and grow now or he’s done in 2 seasons.

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 5:18 pm

And look at the adversity we had to overcome:

1. Notre Dame shot the lights out from three point land.

2. Even 45% free throw shooters for Notre Dame were hitting almost every free throw.

3. Patterson couldn’t hit his three point shot — in fact I think his last one was an air ball.

And yet we still found a way to win. Notre Dame may have a lowish RPI, but that’s mostly because of their poor road record. They are very tough to beat at home. Yet this Pitt team found a way to do it.

Comment by Howard 03.01.14 @ 5:22 pm

Archie Miller is a slouch and I wouldn’t trade Jamie for Archie for one recruiting class, let alone a game. I would however,trade Jamie for Sean Miller as a gameday coach only. Pitt will be fine, especially with the recruits coming in….if we can hold them.

The timeout with 2.8 seconds was horrendous. He had the ball in his best player’s hands, with a spread court and a quickness advantage and he calls timeout. How could any coach call timeout with 2.8 seconds left? That is not enough time to bring the ball in bounds and create space for a shot. Ludicrous.

Some think Lamar may have missed that shot, but if you look at the replay, he left his feet, the whistle blew, he turned is head at our bench like wtf, and then flipped it up nonchalantly for a miss. He was mad. He cried about it which is terrible. Bad things happen in games. You need to pick yourself up when bad things happen. Ask the blatherites! We pick each other up after terrible and frustrating losses and terrible and frustrating victories.

Move on fellas. Hopefully we get to a solid 8, maybe a 7 with two wins. A split gives us a 9 seed. Lose two and we have to win in the tourney. NCState will give us their best shot because they are desperate for a victory to get back to the bubble. LEt’s see if the ACC administration alters a couple outcomes to get FSU, Clemson or NCState in the dance. Just sayin! It’s all about economics. Great win Pitt. Young and Newkirk, great experience.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 03.01.14 @ 5:22 pm

Time to party, and get ready for Saturday nite bro’s.

I got some good smooth jazz playing, pouring another drink and forgetting about …..well…you know. haha

H2P !

We shall overcome !

Veritas et Virtus !

Comment by Emel 03.01.14 @ 5:23 pm

@@@@@@

ND shot about 55% from the 2 and 3 point range and 85%
from the free throw line and lost! Very nice win by Pitt!
Lots of focus on JD’s TO. It is a moot point. Pitt is
10-6 and earned another tough road win. Two more left
and a chance to go 12-6. Trust me nobody wants to play
Pitt in the ACC Tournment.

Comment by JR 03.01.14 @ 5:25 pm

Overall it is a huge win given the venue and the team… first win there since 2005?

Yet, for this program… these are the games they are suppose to win.

Just like the games lost this year at home they were suppose to win.

Lose at Syracuse on the road… ok, cuse is supposed to win that game close… and they did.

Definitely great to get this win as long as they grow from it and keep progressing.

But no matter what happens short of an unexpected deep run in the tournament… the perception of Dixon is now fluid and changing. Next year is a huge year for him personally.

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 5:25 pm

There should be a health warning before these games. Do not watch with a weak heart

Double your dose of Prozac or Xanax before watching

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 5:25 pm

on a very positive note, Pitt is starting to respond to the changes in their FT shooting form.
I cannot remember a game where Pitt shot lights out from the FT line when needed. and today it was needed.

Zanna was a monster underneath and Patterson, who looks like his hand has not healed completely, put in an NBA workmanlike effort.

As far as JD’s TO, he is human and made a mistake, as he has done late in other games.

We won, let it go.

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 5:46 pm

I’m not so sure that Dixon did so badly in his micromanaging:

1. Granted: his timeout at the end of regulation was a mistake.

2. On the other hand: fouls by Robinson and Patterson at the end of overtime prevented Notre Dame from tying the game with a three-point shot or winning it with a four point shot.

Comment by Howard 03.01.14 @ 5:55 pm

20 points in OT, THAT is a lot. We have had halfs with barely that many points.

Comment by TVax 03.01.14 @ 6:00 pm

Apparently I must be mistaken, I thought Pitt won today.

Most of you said Pitt had no chance of winning both games on road after FSU.

Dixon shouldn’t have called the time out. He made a mistake. Pitt still won. So no harm no foul. Although I have to point out Dixon in these situations always gets the ball past half-court and takes a timeout. It’s worked in the past. He was just being consistent. Being consistent can be wrong.

Emel, yes Pitt should win these games. But look around the nation good teams are losing to teams they shouldn’t. I’d take scraping by in OT over a loss. Va Tech also played UNC right today.

And Pittscript you are an idiot. Name me one coach Pitt could get that would be better than Dixon?

Comment by Wardapalooza 03.01.14 @ 6:07 pm

@wardapolooza, You can keep your insults to yourself… and go look in the mirror as you rant them.

My comments stand for themselves when properly read.

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 6:13 pm

Didn’t see the game but JA gets 7 min and CJ gets 4 minutes?

Can’t be a good sign for their play and/or health.

Comment by TVax 03.01.14 @ 6:17 pm

@JR:

I understand your sentiment and they did win so we should move on.

But I have to disagree that the time out is a moot point. This has been a long time criticism of Jamie Dixon. He has to sometimes just let the kids play and do what comes naturally to them.

Under Dixon Pitt has struggled late in close games and have had some crushing last minute defeats. The kids are too tight at the end of games. There is enough pressure as it is in a close game. The coach micro managing and wanting to control every single possession, in my opinion just adds more stress to these kids in an already stressful situation.

Pitt is in the running for some very highly ranked recruits. Kids that can score. Jamie has to loosen up a bit and just let the game come to them sometimes.

Again this is just my opinion, but others share it too. We all watch a lot of basketball, I see very few other coaches that are yelling directions to kids as much and often as Jamie does.

But JR, like you said we won. A nice road win. Let’s keep it going…

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 6:27 pm

@TVax: Artis didn’t play much because Young was playing so well that Dixon kept him in for 30 minutes.

Comment by Howard 03.01.14 @ 6:32 pm

I would take Sean over Jamie in a heartbeat and felt that way before today. Nonetheless, I still think our coach is still much better than most.

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 6:41 pm

I, like everyone else, got hot when Jamie made a bad call. But let’s not lose sight of how well the guys played and how big of a game this was for them.

It is frustrating that once again, they got cold for the last 6 minutes and let ND back in the game.

Somehow they overcame their mistakes including Jamie’s and got a huge monkey off their backs.

I have been hard on Patterson and Zanna in clutch situations and today they both came through in a big way. Zanna looks to be pretty healthy again and that should improve their chances. It may not have been one of the top four in the ACC, but ND shot lights out, Zanna’s rebounding and Patterson’s overall play carried the day. Patterson kept his composure and came through in overtime. We won our first game in the Joyce center since 2005!

I wouldn’t read too much into JA and CJ’s lack of minutes. Young played very well and Patterson was needed. Newkirk also had an excellent game, even if he did miss a layup to ice the game.

Not sure why Jamie dials up plays for Robinson when the game is on the line, but at least he made some big FT’s today.

Everyone played hard, no letdown Monday.

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 6:41 pm

Want to know why they got so many rebounds. Check out this photo:

link to cityofchampionssports.com

Comment by Howard 03.01.14 @ 6:41 pm

The Pitt baseball team lost 4-2 to East Carolina in the 2nd of 3 games in the Keith LeClair Classic in Greensville, SC. The loss is their 3rd in arow dropping their record to 4-4.

Play Western Kentucky at 10:30 AM tomorrow in final game of tournament.

Their opening series as members in the ACC is this weekend against North Carolina. All 3 games will be shown live on ESPN 3.

Hail to Pitt!!

Comment by Pap76 03.01.14 @ 6:42 pm

wbb, I hadn’t heard that Sean was interested. LOL

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 6:42 pm

TO was not a small issue as some of you posted, its huge. Look at BK’s incredulous look. Dixon pissed away an opportunity to win and pissed off his own players. No sane coach does that. Months ago I was criticized on this board when I posted that JD has anxiety disorder and today was classic example. We were kicking their ass, I said at half we need 40 points 2nd half and 10 mins in we were on schedule then the anxiety shows up in the entire team. 4 straight mistake laden possessions, instead of putting them away we open the door. Their coach gets tight, they get tight. Dixon cannot make sound decisions when he’s uptight. The time out was classic Dixon, not coaching to win, coaching not to lose and that gentlemen is a losers’ mentality.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.01.14 @ 6:50 pm

I don’t buy the Jamie is tight so the team is tight psychobabble. Jamie is tight all game long. Jamie didn’t make the mistakes down the stretch. I don’t remember, Fields, or Blair or Wannamaker getting tight at the end of games, is this a new phenomenon?

Coach K or Boeheim, don’t look particularly relaxed at the end of games.

Everyone reacts to stress in different ways, the great ones make their shots, the rest of us throw up air balls or just throw up.

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 7:03 pm

Pittscript you said Pitt could get a coach better than Dixon. Give me names. Archie Miller doesn’t count.

A lot of you said Dixon already lost this team and lost players like Mike Young. Mike Young had one of his best games of the season.

Comment by Wardapalooza 03.01.14 @ 7:05 pm

Everyone focuses on the losses. Pitt has plenty of close wins under Dixon.

You guys went from Pitt is falling apart because of losses. But Pitt wins two road games and is playing better now you all focus on one call in a game Pitt won. It’s nice to be a negative because you can always change what you complain about.

How’s Sean Miller doing after his team had a guy who averaged 10 points aka DJ like numbers? Miller doesn’t have as much success as Dixon.

Comment by Wardapalooza 03.01.14 @ 7:09 pm

The negative Nancy’s will always find something to complain about. Aren’t we 3-0 in OT this year? I guess Dixon can’t be all that tight.

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 03.01.14 @ 7:29 pm

Everyone talking about having a heart attack and high blood pressure etc. its true I’m telling you after this game I had a pounding headache about threw up and I’m being dead serious. JD really makes this game so much harder for this team. Are team plays just how are coach acts. At the end of close games this team acts like JD when he is running all over this sideline our team plays just how he acts they turn it over and just make terrible plays. A team is as good as the coach and
its true we play with a low basketball IQ under Dixon. Doesn’t he ever think about the fans we got
to watch these games and he’s def over-coaching there is no question. Why can’t we run a 3-2 zone when a team is a good 3pt shooting team?

Comment by Nate_PittPanfan 03.01.14 @ 7:30 pm

gc, FWIW, I buy into the Jamie is tight so the team is tight psychobabble 1000%.

After the Ennis buzzer beater, there was an article on the web (forgot from whom) saying that Cuse does so well at the end of games because Boheim exudes confidence, and that it becomes infectious with his players. I know myself when I have a micromanager for a boss (LIKE I DO RIGHT NOW) my output suffers because my focus is not in the right place, I do much better when I’m allowed to sink or swim.

Another point is that did you notice that Young didn’t practice the other day but yet had his beat game in a long while. Our coach just does not seem to realize that at this time of year, rest can do much more than practice. Look how his team looked after 8 off days .. they looked tired probably because he overworked them.

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 7:36 pm

marcus, we are 3 and 0 in OTs most likely because Pitt is much better than Miami, VT and ND and shouldn’t have been in OT in the first place

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 7:38 pm

Thanks wbbb, that clears it up. So Boeheim, exuding confidence as he does, lost to BC in OT, then lost their next gaeme to Duke in the last 20 seconds while over-exuding confidence – Jamie needs to be more like him. Should Syracuse been in OT with BC?

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 03.01.14 @ 7:53 pm

Let’s see if Dixon admits “THE MISTAKE” in follow up interviews.

Frankly, that’s the only thing bothering me, not seeing/admitting he made a mistake.

Jamie all forgiven. Just tell everybody you made a mistake.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 03.01.14 @ 8:06 pm

@Wardap.

first of all read what I wrote… which you didn’t do.

I wrote about perception.

It was about how Dixon is going to/has entered the realm in his career here where perception is going to shift away from him… just like the last 2 years of Wanny…

and just for the record I support Dixon… just not blindly.

Sooner or later… and its going to start to be sooner… the team has to win the ‘big game’… or it has to win “to the level of expectation” set for it in that year… (his team has bitterly disappointed often in championship moments.)

If they consistently come up short ‘when it matters’… it’s over at some point. (I suggested 2 years)

the fact is he and his team give the appearance of not handling the pressure of the big moment well… and that is what we have seen at the end of several games this season including this one.

As for a replacement coach… once you are a good program in a good conference cut me a break… there are good coaches out there that would want the opportunity.

Of course the key is can the administration run a competent search campaign to find a good replacement. The track record here sucks as we are painfully aware.

Some of the best coaches in 5 years for football and basketball don’t have a reputation yet because they are still one position away…

… so asking for ‘the name’ is an irrelevant question. No one would have answered ‘Dixon’ if someone asked who would replace Howland… right? No one said “Tomlin” when someone asked who would replace Cowher…

Hopefully this team ends strong and has a good run in the tournament (and beats the level of expectation set for it… which will be low this year… maybe that is what he needs).

It would be great to see him here the way other coaches are at Duke, ‘cuse, huskies, etc….

… but bottom line is, at some point each of those coaches over performed to expectations… and the won ‘the big game’.

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 8:17 pm

I guess Ronald Ramon was tight when he daggered WVU and Ashton Gibbs was tight when he won that game over Provindence. Guess what? It’s called college basketball have you ever watched a tournament? There are 5 or 6 Tyler Ennis shots every year in the tourney. Sure we have suffered more than our fair share but that’s more a matter of us being tough and not talented enough to make big plays. Our teams have always made the average look extraditionarily difficult.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but there are very few people in Tucson who like Sean Miller. The press can’t stand him, no one on the university side likes him, the fundraisers loathe having to deal with him and the only community service things he does are the paid ones that IMG got to cover his salary. You guys would lose your minds if Pitt shot FTs the way Arizona does. Be careful what you wish for. I’d bet that Pitt goes further in the tourney than Arizona and their 5 5* players and top 5 recruiting classes 4 years in a row.

I’ve got a gripe with Dixon on his late game over reacting, but my bigger gripe is with him not adjusting his style and presenting Pitt as a place that the top flight players should at least worth giving a sniff. We never even get thought of by the big names and that falls squarely on JDs shoulders.
On the opposite side of the coin, there are about 340 other D1 schools who have that some problem and about 330 schools who would give everything they have to have what we have.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 03.01.14 @ 8:19 pm

Good points @wbb, as usual.

@Marcus of s….. yeah, I will take Boeheim’s track record of performance for this year… and past years any day of the week!

And I would be happy with Dixon even if he can’t quite get there… close would be good.

Comment by Pittscript 03.01.14 @ 8:20 pm

Amen CNorwoddAZ, Amen.

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 03.01.14 @ 8:24 pm

wbb, I hate micromanagers as well. But some people need them. I am not saying Jamie does not have his faults. I just think it is a stretch to blame our poor performance at the end of games on his personality.

Today we made our foul shots and some good plays in overtime, other times we have not. I really don’t think a laid back Jamie would have any impact on our foul shooting, anymore than Boeheim’s personality had any impact on Ennis’s buzzbomb.

Was Pitt tired after 8 days rest or were they just not game ready, your guess is as good as mine.

I will say it is a fine line between having your team sharp and ready vs overworked and tired. If Jamie is overworking his guys then Knight and Slice need to tell him.

I would also say the biggest difference I have noticed is the improvement in Zanna’s play. Is it because he is healthy, or against lesser competition, or a combination of both. In any case it is a major positive development for Pitt.

By the way from a management class, I learned that a good manager customizes his style to the relative competence of his employees. Highly competent ones like Patterson and Zanna don’t require micromanaging, most freshmen probably do.

I sympathize with you regarding your boss, good ones are really hard to come by.

Pretty much why I am retired.

Comment by gc 03.01.14 @ 8:29 pm

FYI, New castle just won 3rd straight 4A undefeated WPIAL title — unprecedented … but Pitt recruit Ryan Luther had 21 of Hampton’s 55 pts

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 8:41 pm

Just re-read all the above comments. One thing I am suprised no one has brought up is Dixon willing to foul late in OI in order to never give the Irish a shot at a 3. That concept is very new for him but I think all the wild shots that have gone in against Pitt have shown him the way.

And the team did it perfectly, letting ND get over the half court line before they fouled.
I don’t think Jamie will ever let a team beat us with a 3 again.

Comment by Dan 72 03.01.14 @ 8:48 pm

correction … Luther had 21 of his team’s 49 points

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 8:48 pm

All I know is that if you look back through the last 10 years or so, Pitt often slumps in February both in shooting and winning, while the good teams seem to peak. Shooting has a lot to do with legs and it is well known how hard Pitt practices … just put 1 and 1 together.

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 8:56 pm

As bad as the TO was, more concerning has been how many times this year Pitt has gone cold during the final 5-7 minutes of the game.

I honestly don’t know why, but they sure appear to become less aggressive offensively, looking for the perfect shot. No one can deny this is a trend. The “why”, I suppose, in open to debate.

Comment by Iron Duke 03.01.14 @ 8:59 pm

CNorwodd, For Christ’s sakes, you point to 2 buzzer beaters … but how many close games has Pitt lost in BE Tourney and NCAAs?????? A helluva of a lot more than they won!!

In 2010, Pitt lost in last second to UConn in BE and to Butler in NCAA .. in both games, they had a lead in last minute with the ball …. that is just two examples of many

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 9:03 pm

Pittsburgh: The Panthers could have slipped to the bubble with a loss to Notre Dame, but they escaped in overtime with a victory. They have now won back-to-back games since a three-game losing streak, staying one step ahead of the bubble. Games against North Carolina State and Clemson close out the season. Going unbeaten in those two games would make Pitt feel very comfortable heading into Selection Sunday.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.14 @ 9:17 pm

that was from CBSSports.com Bubble Watch.

This is from their Night Court column:

Players with impact

2. If it weren’t for Talib Zanna’s 17 points and 14 rebounds, Notre Dame would’ve probably beaten Pitt in regulation by about 10 points. The Panthers aren’t inspiring anyone these days, but Zanna would make my list of 10 most undervalued players in the country.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.14 @ 9:18 pm

once again, typical late season swoon

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 9:22 pm

Dixon made a mistake calling the TO — no doubt.

But please, 283–93 (.753). Enough said.

You people are crazy.

Comment by denny 03.01.14 @ 9:23 pm

Emel,

Statistically speaking (I know you don’t like that at all, judgements are easier to make), Robinson IS NOT the worst shooter on the team. You see you can make this stuff up! Robinson’s overall percentage is 42% versus Newkirk’s 43%. His percentage from the arc is slightly better than Newk’s. You probably don’t want to talk at all about a comparison of their FT percentages.

If you want to claim that you don’t run a play for a guy who is 1-8, I’m right there with you.

I don’t understand the timeout with 2.8 in regulation at all. The “spacing” could not have been better. Open lane to the hoop. Still not ready to fire Dixon for it though.:-)

Comment by Barvo 03.01.14 @ 9:29 pm

Emel, for context, it could have been worse. Miami beat UNC, BC beat Syracuse. We won the games! There is a fine line in college basketball today and we are a relatively young team and we are exceeding most fans preseason expectations. Any team can lose on any given day. Ask St Louis! Our losses are to all quality teams and that includes FSU. I expect FSU may end up in the tournament.

Comment by TMGPanther 03.01.14 @ 9:37 pm

denny, we aren’t calling for JD’s firing. We’re just wishing he would change his ways a bit. When the same things are happening again and again, maybe he shouldn’t be so set in his ways.

Fact is that the last 4 wins were all too close against the worst teams in the ACC … and in all the close losses(except for one) the team lost leads in the final minutes

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 9:37 pm

JUCO Center Tyrone Haughton visiting tomorrow thru Tuesday (if he is able to get in)

Hopefully team and Zoo gives him a good show on Monday nite

link to rivals.yahoo.com

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 9:40 pm

Nice find wbb, we definitely need to improve the quality of the bigs for next season. I just can’t see Uchebo coming back.

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 03.01.14 @ 9:46 pm

Emel, for context, it could have been worse. Miami beat UNC, BC beat Syracuse. We won the games! Oh, and ND beat Duke! There is a fine line in college basketball today and we are a relatively young team and we are exceeding most fans preseason expectations. Any team can lose on any given day. Ask St Louis! Our losses are to all quality teams and that includes FSU. I expect FSU may end up in the tournament.

Comment by TMGPanther 03.01.14 @ 9:48 pm

This was a road rivalry game against a team that has Pitt’s number – 5 in a row before this afternoon. Pitt got the win. Enough said. Dixon called a TO that I can’t defend – he’s earned a pass. The TO against Cuse was controversial but their are proponents on both sides of that argument and most agree with Jamie’s call.

Pitt’s beaten the teams they are supposed to minus FSU which is a bubble team and well coached. They’ve struggled against the top teams on their schedule. 5 of those losses are to top 12 teams. 1 to UNC at #19 but is probably the hottest team in the country and playing like a top 10 team.

The TO was bad but guess what – the team did NOT quit. Lamar got his emotions in check and Zanna for the 2nd time this season was clutch at the line with the game on the line.

Don’t throw in the towel yet.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.01.14 @ 9:49 pm

I could care less if Dixon actually left and took a job. He will never get to a Sweet 16 let alone a final four. Even if he had the players (We know he recruits terribly) he would overcoach them and screw it up. Sean Miller is light years ahead. Cznorwood….I’d take Sean’s team he built over our 2 stars FYI. Dixon if we get to the tourney has a loss to some mid american team written all over it.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.01.14 @ 9:52 pm

I was actually starting to thing we had a chance and then I watched him coach the last few games. I haven’t csancelled the final four party I just don’t see us being anywhere near Dallas.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.01.14 @ 9:53 pm

Concerning the timeout and the JD criticism. I get it and I was also critical of the decision, but it is easier to criticize with the benefit of TV and replays. JD said the play was for Newkirk to drive and dish off to LP or one of the bigs. Instead Josh just handed the ball to LP. When JD saw that he signaled for the timeout, which was before Patterson made his move. If you run the replay you will see the defender stop when he hears the whistle. I agree that LP probably would have had a clear path to the basket, but in real time I’m not so sure that was clear to JD. We’ll see what he says after reviewing the tape. The criticism that he wouldn’t just leave it in LP’s hands is fine, but he called timeout to try and get a better situation. I can’t crucify him for that.

Comment by TMGPanther 03.01.14 @ 9:55 pm

Baseball is 4-4 and lost last 2 or 3. This is going to get really ugly quick with UNC coming up. If Jordano wins 6-7 ACC games total he deserves a raise. I can’t imagine the coaches faces from UNC, Miami or Clemson or FSU when they look at the field they have to play on. Way to go Pederson keep up the great work. Our facilites are good for a D2 school and people here continue to praise the nutjob.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.01.14 @ 9:56 pm

I have no problem whatsoever with the TO against Syracuse. I do have a big problem with the 4 straight PATHETIC possessions Pitt had in the last few minutes when they had nothing but idiotic attempts right before the shot clock, and Pitt gave up the lead. That’s where the game was lost

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 9:57 pm

Uplittbaseball, when is the last time you saw our baseball facilities? You are awfully critical for someone that doesn’t support the athletic department in any significant way. In fact your clueless! Our new baseball facilities are excellent.

Comment by TMGPanther 03.01.14 @ 10:03 pm

wbb – I’d agree with you there. They played better up tempo earlier in the season. After Durand went out, instead of keeping the pedal on the metal they try to burn clock and it’s cost a few close ones and made a few others closer than they should have been. I also believe Jamie should just have said he f’d up when asked about the TO instead of being a smart ass. Having said that, this team has over-performed this year. They are much better than most predicted and the reality is that 5 out of the losses are to the top 12 teams in the country with a 6th one trending that way. All that says is that this team isn’t top 15 material. Which I wouldn’t argue.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.01.14 @ 10:04 pm

agree, Pitt is actually just finding its own true level

Comment by wbb 03.01.14 @ 10:11 pm

I also believe in the law of averages so I think Pitt still has two buzzer beaters in them – hopefully they save them for the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 – I can’t help that I’m an optimist.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.01.14 @ 10:25 pm

Wow….Our players do a great job closing out a game on the FT line, hitting one big FT after another…but most of the comments above are about a bad call by our coach…Let me help most of you out: Dear Pitt players, thank you for not folding on the road when you went down big early in the game, thank you for not losing your focus when your coach did, and thank you for sticking a dagger in the ND faithfuls hearts from the FT line in OT.

Comment by HbgFrank 03.01.14 @ 10:26 pm

Tossing, Actually Pitt continued to play pretty well even after losing Durand Johnson. At least up until the Duke game. After that the opposition worked to limit Lamar Paterson’s touches. Without Johnson, to bring in and provide another outside option, it has proved to be an effective strategy for playing Pitt.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.14 @ 10:32 pm

@justonian that and injuries to Zanna and Patterson. I think this team is fine. These close games will help them down the line. Dixon made a bad call. They won the game so screw it. This team looks better uptempo though. I don’t like the conservative approach down the stretch because teams are getting hot when the games are within striking distance. We’ll said HbgFrank.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.01.14 @ 10:50 pm

Last time Pitt beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame was March 5, 2005:

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Chris Taft sparked Pittsburgh in the opening minutes with a rebound basket, a dunk and a pair of shots inside.

Taft finished with a career-high 26 points to lead the 24th-ranked Panthers, who had 56 points in the paint, to an 85-77 victory over Notre Dame on Saturday.

“I hit a couple of jump hooks in a row and just kept going to that,” said Taft, who scored eight of his team’s first 12 points. “I was yelling for the ball like crazy.”

Chevon Troutman had 22 points and Carl Krauser added 15 for the Panthers (20-7, 10-6), who posted their fourth straight 20-win season and clinched both fifth place in the Big East and a first-round bye in the league tournament.

link to scores.espn.go.com

Comment by Howard 03.01.14 @ 11:23 pm

@Howard – thanks for the reminder. 5th in the BET? This year perhaps 5th in the ACC tourney?

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.14 @ 11:29 pm

TMG – I hope that is a joke. I was there 2 years ago. Go to a Division 1 Field in the ACC and then tell me what you think about the field. Please before using the term excellent.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.01.14 @ 11:41 pm

Ok…Ok…I get it..we won at ND which is something we don’t do often..and for that I’m happy with the victory

Now..as for JD…The T.O was absolutely disgusting..he should be thanking his team for bailing him out of a un thinkable situation…seriously..did he realy think he was gonna get a better shot with 2.8 second left?!

I have stated time and time again that I do not like nor support JD and his coaching styles…tactics..

I seriously can not see pitt taking the next step they need to take with JD at the helm…Someone please give me reasons to be more optimistic about the future if JD is here…The past three years have been a steady decline of talent and questionable coaching…Help me see what you guys see?!?!

Comment by Keith 03.01.14 @ 11:43 pm

Your best player has the ball in his hands with the game tied and 4 seconds. He has an inferior player guarding him. You have had the opportunity to coach the player for five years. You don’t trust him to make the right play?

You would rather draw up a play off the inbounds with 2.8 seconds left’?

Tells me everything I need to know. Tells the team the same thing.

Coach has no confidence in his team.

No wonder the team has no confidence late in games.

Jamie lost me today. He’s not a leader who is capable of leading a team to great things. He’s capable of good, not great.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.14 @ 11:54 pm

Uplittbaseball, you’ve been to the Pitt baseball Peterson complex since Spring 2011? That’s not good enough for you? What exactly do you want in a field?

Comment by TMGPanther 03.01.14 @ 11:56 pm

Just finished watching on DVR… Then reading all the hilarious comments about our coach… You guys make me laugh. Thank you.

Awesome game. Got down, big. Then battled back. Good coaching? No f#@king way!!!

Notre Dame then battles back… And if I’m following, they get no credit for that, right? No f#@king way!!!

The TO at the end was questionable, but there is no question JD’s coaching helped get us back in a game where we were trailing team that was shooting lights out early.

10 top 25 teams lost to lower ranked teams today… We win and OUR coach sucks???

Some of you need to get over yourselves.

Comment by Pitt2Cali 03.02.14 @ 12:03 am

TMG – it is light years ahead of trees field but so was my high school stadium. The new one comparing it to ACC Schools that is our conference is in no way shape or form close. Those are stadiums. We have an all turf no dirt at all which as a baseball purest is gross. No dirt around based or homeplate. No identity and it is a small and a concrete gray mess. Google photos of a few in ACC. You will change your tune. I remember back in late 90′s the ND coach now at LSU practically wanting to forfeit because he wasn’t going to out his players on trees field. LOL

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.02.14 @ 12:08 am

Upitt… Don’t you think the southern ACC Schools have a little bit of an advantage weather wise? A grass and dirt field in Pittsburgh would be a mud bog half the season.

Comment by Pitt2Cali 03.02.14 @ 12:12 am

Cali – i just want some dirt around the bags and home. Pirates and penn st and Wvu and all the others make so just fine. Hell so did Uconn and BC and st johns when we played them.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.02.14 @ 12:19 am

Fair enough, Upitt. I can agree with that.

Comment by Pitt2Cali 03.02.14 @ 12:21 am

Cali – good night boss. Im happy we agreed on something. Take care. Heading to pit tomorrow then Miami. Stark difference in weather. Hope we make it in with that bad storm.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.02.14 @ 12:49 am

Upitt, I can’t remember the last time someone said donething good about Pederson let alone constant praise. By the way the Pitt basketball team has probably no 2 stars. Sean Miller wins fewer regular season games and misses the tournament more. And by the way Dixon beat Miller in a NCAA tournament game in case you forgot.

Keith, somehow bad season followed by good season followed by currently decent could end up good season is a steady decline.

Pittscript, perception is 100 percent subjective. You don’t like him so you use perception against. Dixon has an awesome record against top teams and had the most top 2 finishes in the Big East when he was coach so my perception is that he wins. And in regards to a new coach, programs like BC, VA Tech and Wake perceived they could do better with their coach and I’m sure if they could do it over they would have kept their coaches. And there are other schools like USC make bad hires all the time. That’s why you can’t just say oh Pitt can do better with head coach and not give names.

Comment by Wardapalooza 03.02.14 @ 1:00 am

@Upittbaseball:

This is Pitt’s 1st go round in the ACC in baseball. This is a university located in the northeast. I think the new baseball facility is very nice for where we are as a baseball program, and if we can have some success and garner some interest in the baseball program I’m sure more seats will be added and more money put into the program.

Also you said Dixon ” will never make it to the sweet 16 let alone a final 4″??????????????? Uhh he has been to 3 and an elite 8. I’m assuming you know that, so I guess you are suggesting he can never make another? Well that is as ridiculous as you calling Paul Chryst a “moron”, who by the way has bachelor’s degree in political science and a master’s degree in educational administration. He has also risen to the top of his chosen profession.

I am not a Pitt, Jamie Dixon, or Paul Chryst apologist. I have criticized the university and both coaches when warranted.

I’m being totally serious, are you even Pitt fan? We all want all things Pitt to thrive and reach the pinnacle. But your negativity is just off the charts man…

Comment by Pap76 03.02.14 @ 2:39 am

@wbb:

Thanks for the link on Tyrone Haughton. I believe we only have one scholarship to give? We desperately need help at the 5. I’ve heard we may be forced to start Mike Young there next year. No good!

So I’m ok with this? But 3.9 ppg and 6.5 rpg at the juco level, not exactly a reason to get too excited. He does average slightly over 3 blocks per game, which means he means he probably alters a lot of shots, a la Gary Mcghee.

It’s a shame Shaquille Doorson seems to be such a project. The kid is built like brick shit house!

Good win today. Zanna appears to be completely healed. Patterson will probably be botherd by thumb injury the rest of the year, but he seems to be adjusting. Newkirk is showing some real flashes. Artis and Young have have their moments. Both need to display more consistency. Cam Wright has really stepped it up, and I love his hustle and energy.

I’ll admit I thought this team was destined for a one and done in ACC and NCAA tourneys. I’m starting to think maybe, just maybe, they can still come together and make a little run?

This win was huge, especially considering how devastating losing another close game could have been.

Dixon was defensive of his timeout, that’s nothing new for JD. But I’m sure in a private moment, he knows it was a terrible time out on so many levels.

Anyway my friends, I have renewed faith…

Hail to Pitt!!!!!

Comment by Pap76 03.02.14 @ 3:13 am

@Pap76, for Christmas I gave Upittbb a Groupon certificate for electroshock therapy from John Hopkins University. Apparently those therapies helped, at least temporarily, because for a while there he was all gung ho and positive about Pitt athletics in general, and in his mind even had the Panthers making the final four in Texas for awhile there.
I was so happy for him!

But the mix of chemicals concocted up producing the Darkside of neuroscience is a powerful brew. Unfortunately Upittbb as once again succumbed to its evil spell.

I doubt not whether he wears the colors of the University of Pittsburgh, only that he wears them as gold and blue rather than blue and gold. In the complicated, confused state of such emotional infirmity such jumbled disjointed thought processes exist as commonplace.

I suggest showing more understanding and compassion, it will be much less frustrating for you, once you have such a paradigm shift in your thinking, and you might then better appreciate from where those dark thoughts of Upittbaseball’s originate from.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.02.14 @ 7:31 am

Doc where are my meds??? I cant find them anywhere. Hahaha

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.02.14 @ 7:36 am

Never a dull moment! It looks as though the freshmen have finally matured! We’ve all been waiting! Cam has stepped up, and now represents that option in case Lamar gets double-teamed. Talib is a beast under the boards, and will probably never shoot layups correctly–but he gets those rebounds. So…if he & Lamar are healthy; we hit key free throws; Newkirk, Young, Artis, and the other frosh contribute; JRob protects the ball; WHO KNOWS! What a roller-coaster of a season…and there are still two tournaments ahead of us!

Comment by Stanley Schweiger 03.02.14 @ 7:42 am

pap76, yes, there is just one schollie left, however, it isn’t uncommon for JD to send someone packing that is not working out. For example, if Haughton or Jamison commit as well as Kobe Eubanks, it could mean the end for Uchebo … or Doorsen can be redirected to a prep or JUCO for more work since he is reportedly very raw.

Maybe one of the freshmen will decide to transfer, possibly Chris Jones or Newkirk when they see the 3 4-star guards coming into the program the next couple of years …. but this is all speculation and maybe none of them will transfer. Personally, I like what I see from all 4 but you never know .. as we saw the past few years

Comment by wbb 03.02.14 @ 7:51 am

Pitt’s baseball facilities are very nice. No, they don’t match the best facilities in the ACC and never will. I a gree, they should be grass and dirt.
A .500 record for the baseball team is not bad for the first ACC go around but they need to show some improvement next year. If not, coach J needs to step it up.

Comment by notrocketscience 03.02.14 @ 8:38 am

Tossing, Yes Pitt seems to play better with a quicker tempo. Talib Zanna is quicker than most centers and Cam Wright gets our on the break and he is a surprisingly effective finisher. I like the progress of the four Pitt freshmen. I think at this point of the season, they’ve already graduated on to sophomore status.

Comment by Justinian 03.02.14 @ 8:40 am

If by some miraculous circumstances, Pitt does make it into the final four, then we’ll have to buddy up for the festivities in Dallas and co-medicate together during the Tournament. How’s that sound to you Upittbaseball? Never lose the faith, Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.02.14 @ 8:41 am

UPitt, nobody was talking about Trees Field or the 90′s. You obviously have not been to or seen photos of the new Pitt Baseball stadium. Yes it has synthetic turf, but it has dirt around the infield and home plate. I have no idea why you post on this site. You only run down the university every chance you get.

Comment by TMGPanther 03.02.14 @ 9:13 am

A great article in the Trib today about Voytik.

link to triblive.com

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 03.02.14 @ 9:18 am

Somewhat unnoticed is that Randall has played better the last two games. Again it might be the competition, but nice to see. Uchebo is the big mystery, will he ever get health enough. What is his upside?

The juggling of roster spots to make room will be interesting. I don’t see Newkirk going anywhere, but Chris Jones could be odd man out. But what if DJ’s knee does not heal sufficiently? Does someone go to prep school?

And next year, only two seniors again.

Really going to be a challenge to replace the production of Patterson and Zanna.

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 9:35 am

thanks pmd, that is a great article. Sounds like a really smart kid as well.

Anyone hear anymore about Wittek?

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 9:45 am

I posted about Chad 2 years ago. Men who climb the rungs in football were usually not just standouts in HS, they didn’t just dominate a man, they seized control of the game. I saw Chad in HS, only reason he’s not starting for TN in SEC is because TN athletic dept makes Pitt’s look good. TN should never allow a talent like this leave. Our gain. This kid has the capacity to be the best QB since Marino. He’s a leader, has smarts, has composure. A real QB. He’s stable from a stable family, head screwed on.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.02.14 @ 9:50 am

Based on some comments, Dixon didn’t convert any of the many disbelievers yesterday.

But a win at Notre Dame is a big deal, the first in almost a decade, and a cause for celebration.

Now if this team can learn to bring in a close win against a team ranked higher than them in the BPI, RPI, KenPom, etc., and the NCAA Tournament, that would show growth.

Comment by TonyinHouston 03.02.14 @ 9:59 am

As I posted in a previous blog a few days ago, I consider Voytik more of the Palko-playmaker type. And while he may not have the strong arm like Savage (not many do), he certainly is more mobile than anyone Pitt has had since Palko.

This is why I think with all the skill people surrounding him, and 3 or 4 starters back on the OL with a handful of others (like Dorian Johnson) who may be ready to step up …. 8-10 wins may be a possibility with the easy schedule Pitt has this coming year.

Of course, this is all contingent upon Voytik not getting injured

Comment by wbb 03.02.14 @ 10:27 am

I find it ironic that Dixon is being praised for this victory against ND when in fact, it was all his teams which has previously lost to them in the past 8 years (or whatever) .. and everytime, just as yesterday, Pitt was the clear favorite.

Again, I don’t want him fired by any means but let’s not make him John Wooden just yet.

Comment by wbb 03.02.14 @ 10:33 am

wbb, who is saying he is John Wooden? A little hyperbolic don’t you think? Just because some choose to defend our coach, it isn’t the same as saying he is the best coach ever. Although you could make the case that he is the best ever at Pitt.

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 10:39 am

Dixon’s TO even befuddles South Bend Tribune reporter:

Tie game at 65 with 7.7 seconds remaining.
Pittsburgh had a chance to win it, and seemingly had the dream scenario unfold. Lamar Patterson, its best player, was isolated one-on-one with Vasturia with a straight-line drive there for the taking. But coach Jamie Dixon called timeout with 2.8 seconds remaining.
What???
James Robinson’s fadeaway jumper then bounced off at the buzzer and it was on to overtime.
“I think it was the right play,” Dixon said.

link to southbendtribune.com

Comment by TonyinHouston 03.02.14 @ 10:41 am

Dixon said on his radio show that Uchebo had a set back with his knee. After two years, he is nowhere near 100%. If slice lands one of the JUCO bigs, my guess is that Uchebo leaves.

And if the choice is Eubanks or Jones, unfortunately for Chris, it is a no brainer.

Newkirk isn’t going anywhere. He will be pushing JR for minutes next year.

I really liked the “small” lineup yesterday. Pitt rebounded and defended well enough to allow Dixon to push Patterson to the four. Newkirk really helps spread the floor, move the ball and speed things up on offense.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.02.14 @ 10:45 am

Newkirk isn’t going anywhere. In fact, he’s going to be relied on as soon as next year to provide offense and, hopefully (Jamie are you listening?), a quicker tempo.

Also, just a few quick thoughts about Dixon calling a timeout. The reason it has so many in an uproar because it seems to be tangible evidence of just how much over-coaching and micro-managing many have suspected he’s long been guilty of. It was an awful, awful, awful decision, and there’s no way around that. I, for one, don’t care if he admits to the media and fans that it was a mistake, but he’s a fool if he didn’t own up to it with the players in the locker room after the game. The players bailed him out, and after a tough season laced with horrific losses they needed to hear that.

I do believe if they would have lost the game in OT then this season would have officially imploded. Quite a scare. Pitt and its fans are lucky to have survived it.

Comment by WorkinOnMyPittness 03.02.14 @ 10:46 am

Well said WOMP, hopefully he learns from his mistake as he seems to have done regarding fouling when you are up by three.

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 10:50 am

Think we saw a little evidence of just “HOW ABOVE AVERAGE” Dixon can be at times as a Coach. Not just any time… but especially CRUNCH TIME when thhe pressure is on.

Pressure has a way of getting to Jamie. In fact, it’s written all over his face.

Jamie’s tendency to suffer periodic “NEURON MELT-DOWN” has paralyzed his effectiveness as a Crunch-Time Coach time and time again through the years… little OVERSIGHTS that can mean the difference between eeking out a Win or a Loss.

Against Notre Dame it was obvious that Jamie clearly had it in his mind that he was going to call the TIMEOUT NO MATTER WHAT in the event that the original play, as drawn up… did not immediately fall into place.

Unfortunately, having Option A and Option B locked in… left the Coach totally oblivious to the fact that his PLAYMAKER was in position for an easy basket.

But thank goodness the Over-Time, as unnecessary as it was… gave Jamie a Second Chance. And thanks to his Players for rallying to salvage a Win that just might have saved the Season, but most certainly saved Jamie from the avalanche of criticism that would have certainly come.

There would have been no defending Jamie on this one.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.02.14 @ 10:50 am

I really like this team, even though there are days (like yesterday) when they drive me totally crazy. Someone posted already how his heart health was tested. I can relate to that.

But, despite the very anxious moments, they pulled it out. The freshmen are stepping up. Great work in the paint. The tap ins saved us.

So, next up is the Wolfpack. Are they going to be able to make it to the Burgh for the game?

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 03.02.14 @ 10:57 am

@Upitt

Keep the faith. Dr Tom and I know that you are becoming a “glass half full” guy—but it is a tough road. I know you can do it.

Can’t wait for the party at your place.

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 03.02.14 @ 10:59 am

Did anyone notice that Syracuse got the crap kicked out of them. Talk about end of the season swoon.

No one is calling for his firing although he has won only one championship with an amazing performance by a one and done.

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 11:01 am

Did I miss the preseason prognostications that this team was considered a final four favorite? No, didn’t think so. Did I miss the predictions where they were favorite to win the ACC? No, didn’t think so. Did I read anything that stated they were a lock for the tourney? Nope, never happened.

I always feel I need to be honest with myself if I want to get better, so let’s be honest about this Pitt team. They have no true center. Three freshmen get significant playing time and a fourth has been counted on at various times this season (NC game). They have a point guard that would rather stab his grandmother than take an open shot. Since they’re most dynamic player was injured for the year, they have questionable depth at the three spot.

Despite all of these issues, Jamie Dixon has found a way to get this team into the tournament. He makes a mistake and the know-it-all wolves on this site jump down his throat. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I make mistakes everyday at my job. But successful people learn from their mistakes and I’m sure Dixon will do so.

283–93 (.753). He’s the best coach we’ve ever. Eat it.

Comment by denny 03.02.14 @ 11:13 am

GC, Yes it was a butt kicking. It’s interesting to me how Syracuse managed to squeak bye in all those close throughout the season and now they’re coming up short. I’ve held for some time that Syracuse can’t go very far in tournament play only using 6 guys.

Comment by Justinian 03.02.14 @ 11:20 am

And by the way… seems pretty obvouis that a LACK of QUARTERBACKS could be playing into the decision to cancel the Spring Game.

With just two available QBs… you can bet this will not be the only precaution taken to minimize the chance of Voytik and Anderson suffering the effects of ARM FATIGUE or, worse… being lost to INJURY.

Usually pretty supportive of Chryst, I cannot defend him on this one.

As I’ve pointed out in prior posts, among other things Chryst is a GAMBLER. But with just one more QB coming in for Fall, Pitt’s QUARTERBACK PROBLEM amounts to an UNMITIGATED RISK that should have and could have been avoided.

Hopefully the cancellation of the Spring Game is the only loss that is suffered.

Comment by PittofDreams 03.02.14 @ 11:20 am

I had a hard time finding the ND-Pitt BB article in the Post Gazette. I guess PSU had formally taken over the paper just like PA recruiting.

For us on to beat NCS.

Comment by Frank 03.02.14 @ 11:24 am

gc and denny, everything you say is true. And I agree that this Pitt team is nothing more than a middle of the pack team.

However, after years of being a staunch JD supporter, I see a guy who …

- year after year plays people out of position because of his recruiting and lack of depth at certain positions
- plays not to lose (as opposed as to win) and as a result loses many critical close games
- despites promise to the contrary, always reverts to his old habit of bleeding down the clock
- has teams that seems to peak in December and early January but often seems to regress in Feb and March.

If he is going to recruit 4-stars and more athletic types, then he is going to have to give these guys a freer rein and lengthen his leash.

But seriously, do you honestly think he will ever consider sitting Robinson the next couple of years even if the offense is bogged down?

Comment by wbb 03.02.14 @ 11:31 am

Denny, I am a Jamie Dixon supporter. But I still feel this last time out called when Lamar Paterson had the ball was a big mistake. Paterson had his man one on one with an open lane to hoop. That’s exactly what you want. In that situation you either get a lay-up or you get fouled. Both are good things with 2.5 seconds on the clock. Lamar Paterson is the best money player on this team and sometimes you just have to trust your guys and let them finish the play. Don’t get me wrong, I am thrilled that they won the game. To their credit the Panthers continued to play hard and made their foul shots down the stretch, to win the game in overtime. It was a real gut check and kudos to them for getting the job done.

Comment by Justinian 03.02.14 @ 11:35 am

gc, Cuse has lost 3 games, 2 of them to teams that will be in the Top 10 this week on those team’s court. They have also beaten 4 or 5 teams that will be in the Top 20 this week.

Comment by wbb 03.02.14 @ 11:45 am

I think Jones is being groomed for the Wanny / Patterson role. He’s hurt so we are not seeing everything he has to offer. I doubt he goes anywhere. Mostella is the scholly that opens up.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.02.14 @ 11:59 am

BTW – if you look at UVa’s record of the league games they won (all but Duke so far), we held them to their lowest point total and came closest to winning. Small consolation but an interesting point nonetheless.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.02.14 @ 12:11 pm

*sorry, should have had a comma after record

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.02.14 @ 12:12 pm

wbb, I pretty much agree with your analysis. Criticism of Jamie is justified, while you are not one of them, some think we would be better off without him.

I am one that prefers to live with his deficiencies because of his overall record and that he has consistently put together very competitive teams.

You did leave out Syracuse’ loss at home to BC and the fact that when the regular season championship was on the line, they got blown out.

Your question regarding Robinson is rhetoric, but he is showing a lot of confidence in Newkirk.

Hindsight is 20/20 but Birch and Adams really hurt this team. Was that Jamie’s fault?

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 12:24 pm

We are in the post BB season. The next 2 games, the ACC tourney and hopefully NCAA will define this season. The regular season BB record is about what we expected. Maybe the close games will help this team from here on.

Comment by Frank 03.02.14 @ 12:30 pm

PPG RPG APG
12.6 8.3 0.5

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.02.14 @ 12:32 pm

PPG RPG APG
12.6 8.3 0.5

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.02.14 @ 12:32 pm

PPG RPG APG
11.6 9.7 0.9

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.02.14 @ 12:32 pm

which line is Birch this year and which is Talib Zanna

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.02.14 @ 12:33 pm

Blocked shots

Zanna 22

Birch 108

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 12:42 pm

Notre Dame lost their best player, having a bad season, Brey gets accolades for how well he has coached.

Jamie loses Adams and DJ, ranked 5th in the ACC, three close losses to the two leaders, but Jamie stinks and must go.

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 12:46 pm

TMG – i brought up trees as a joke. The new stadium is nice quality for a D2 or D3 program like a wooster or marrietta not ACC Pitt. Look again and yes I have been there. There is no dirt anywhere chief. Find some and I will buy you a case of your fav beer.

link to 360photopro.com

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.02.14 @ 12:51 pm

Back to football for a second. After Fraud’s dip out, this kid Chad Voytik was a major player in keeping his own recruiting class from completely falling apart, similar to the way Wanny’s last class disappeared after his departure, that showed me some of his leadership potential prior to him even stepping onto Pitt’s campus as a student athlete.

Everything I’ve seen, read and experienced first hand with this kid is telling me he is the real deal. By that I mean the kind of person who is a game changer. Not necessarily by just demonstrating his physical prowess as being superior, but by all of those other aspects of one’s personality and mental make up that inspires others to follow such a leader. And I feel that Voytik is going to be just the kind of key player that Pitt has long been without at the QB position.

Savage was a step up in that leadership department over our previous QB, but it is next to impossible to come in as a transfer and endear yourself to the team under such circumstances. Tom did a hell of a job for us but he was really just a quick fix for a larger problem of not having a groomed seasoned QB ready to step into the system 100% ready to assume the responsibilities surrounding that key position.

Now, Chad is ready! I’m hoping he becomes the QB that he has shown is his potential to be in the limited action that he has already seen for the Panthers. No doubt about it, I’ll take three seasons of performances just like those that he demonstrated in the second half of the Pizza Bowl. Coming in under duress to have that kind of come from behind game changing winning performance was beautiful!

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.02.14 @ 12:56 pm

Dr Tom, hear, hear, it is really great going into the season with a guy that has been on campus and in practice for two years. Knows the playbook and is not totally unknown thanks to his bowl performance.

Need to keep him healthy, but like you, hoping to watch him for three years.

Comment by gc 03.02.14 @ 1:14 pm

I realize that a number of you have much more college coaching experience than JD but you should cut him a break with regard to that time out. If JD had your view of that last play he might not have called time out, but he didn’t. Viewing the play from court level on the opposite sideline it would look totally different. What he saw was the play not being run the way he called it and therefor the spacing was not there.

Comment by letterman 03.02.14 @ 1:21 pm

Not being a PITT grad, I looked at the link Upitt provided.

I quickly spotted a baseball stadium with what looked like dirt in the infield, pitcher’s mound & warning track.

So unless Upitt’s challenge was a trick question (considers clay as not being dirt, or that specially Trees is now either the soccer field or been converted to a paved parking lot), I believe TMG is owed a case of beer.

Comment by PITT-cocks fan 03.02.14 @ 1:32 pm

Dixon called time out with a little over 2 seconds left … and the inbounds play he ran resulted in a player with lesser skills getting the ball further away …. that’s the part I don’t get. If a anything, it was a total waste of a timeout which thankfully was not needed in OT.

Comment by wbb 03.02.14 @ 1:39 pm

@Dr Tom

Exactly. I remember those days when Chad was doing his best to keep “his” recruiting class together. That has to get him respect from his teammates—and all of us.

Let’s kick butt to finish the season in hoops, make some noise at the ACC and then be the surprise team in the big tourney.

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 03.02.14 @ 1:59 pm

No dirt what so ever. The turf is colored brown to look like dirt.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.02.14 @ 2:00 pm

Upitt- Thanks for the explanation & thanks for the link. The aerial view still looks good.

Comment by PITT-cocks fan 03.02.14 @ 6:55 pm

Yes it does.. USC should have another great baseball squad this year.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.03.14 @ 11:34 am

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