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February 12, 2014

7pm on ESPN.

Dave O’Brien and Doris Burke are the announcing crew, so it’s going to be all about the game.

You may have heard and will hear something about that 9-0 versus top-5 teams at the Pete. So that’s out there.

There’s also the fact that the last time Syracuse beat Pitt at the Pete was 10 years ago in a 48-45 mess of a game.

Questions abound on the overall health of the team. How severe is Lamar Patterson’s thumb injury, really? How is Talib Zanna’s ankle?

This will be the fourth straight game versus ACC teams that play at a slower tempo than Pitt. ACC purists can complain all they want about the change to their conference, but the slower tempo is really being driven by their own teams not Pitt and Syracuse.

@spirit, yes, human nature, I used the phrase myself in a post above.

I question the timeout. I admit it though, if he hadn’t called one, and they got a bunny or drove to the hoop and got fouled, I probably would have said to myself, ‘why didn’t he call a timeout and get organized?’.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 1:10 pm

Also, a lot is being made of the shot.

Let’s not debate about it. It was a desperation shot. 37′ is desperation. It went in. If he tries that shot 10 times, how many times is it going in, especially in games situations. ONCE.

It also was not a pure jump shot. He was leaning in.

He did have a clean look, but how tough can they guard him. You certainly can’t foul him.

Sometimes I over simplify things, and I will with this game.

We got beat by a buzzer beater. We’ve had our share of beating other teams with buzzer beaters.

If you watch college basketball, it happens.

The Virginia game, was a pure jump shot within that players game.

The two shots and situations don’t compare, other than they beat us.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 1:15 pm

***ha ha ha*** I just realized something too.

I have 93.7 The Fan on in the office and car all day.

Sometimes I am posting retorts back to callers or hosts on there!!


Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 1:19 pm

Re: JD’s decision for a TO

Knowing the tumult of Pitt BB in the past 12 years at late game scenarios (UCONN in BET many times, Butler, Nova, Virginia/Cuse/Miami/VaTech this year etc.) ….do you really blame Jamie for stopping play to think about a defense?

Look… he wanted to orchestrate a low probability shot for Cuse and that happened. With his excruciating history, do you really fault him?

I don’t call it micromanaging. I call it history dictating preparedness.

Comment by PaulyP 02.13.14 @ 1:27 pm

I’m pretty sure the whole Dixon doesn”t play young guys is completely put to rest at this point. Wasn’t there talk of Dixon losing Artis. Artis played pretty decent down yesterday and got to play in the final minutes. I was impressed by his energy on the glass. I hadn’t seen that all year from him.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.13.14 @ 1:33 pm

Artis was in during much of crunch time last night. The game before, it was Newkirk. And Young had been in there mostly because of his foul shooting. Maybe it’s because there is nobody else to turn to … nonetheless, all have show potential but are inconsistent because that’s what 98% freshman are.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 1:42 pm

In summary, I don’t blame the timeout … if anything, it was the last 4 or 5 offensive possessions.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 1:44 pm

Snowed in from work and I stumble across the replay on ESPNU. I’m now reliving this. What is wrong with me.

Comment by Chris 02.13.14 @ 1:54 pm

@Chris, Just turn the TV off after Zanna sinks the fouls and I think you will enjoy the game.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:04 pm

Guess what team didn’t recruit Tyler Ennis??? He is from NJ! Sean Recruited him all the way from AZ.

link to

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 2:07 pm

So what does it matter who recruited him. Pitt has recruited many stars that went elsewhere … BFD!!

I bet both Boeheim and Sean hasn’t recruited players that were great .. again BFD!!

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 2:11 pm

THEY DO NOT IDENTIFY TOP TALENT! That is why it matters. Why do we have to constantly coach em up???? B/C we never recruit legit studs. I blame that on Dixon. He is a good coach but recruiting is atrocious.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 2:16 pm

You think Boheim has to coach up Ennis? Heck no. Go out there boys and run our offense and just play and have fun. B/C our guys aren’t as good I think Dixon overcoaches.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 2:17 pm

Ennis is one and done and I am fine with not recruiting in that direction. I think one could argue that Steve Adams playing here hurt as much as it helped as an example. Ennis and Fair were probably the most talented players in the game last night but as I stated previously the best player on the floor was 5th year senior Talib Zanna. I bet Syracuse didn’t recruit him.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:18 pm

So if Pitt decides to target someone but he still goes elsewhere, then it’s OK?

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 2:28 pm

@ Upittbaseball, Let me get this straight we don’t identify top talent and hall of fame coach Boeheim only has to pat ’em on the back and tell ’em to have a good time. Maybe Boeheim had better try it JD’s way then because Dixon generally wins head to head, and last night the Orange were played pretty even by a much less talented team. We are not Kansas, this isn’t Duke and we aren’t going to be the next Kentucky. We get good kids and work hard to develop them and that isn’t going to change.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:30 pm

You think Jimmy Boeheim just let’s Ennis go out and play? Ha. Yeah, I’m sure Ennis wants to play at the slow pace Cuse plays at.

Pitt didn’t lose to the Cuse because a lack of talent.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.13.14 @ 2:35 pm

@Upittbaseball, Syracuse has traditionally attracted some of the top NBA guard talent. When teams recruit it costs money so they use their budgets in away that they hope will yield the best results. They end up doing things in ways that have worked before and they have confidence they can make work again. JD brought Slice back and we have already been fortunate enough to get some commitments from some very good looking prospects. Jamie is conservative though and our starters are a pretty good indication of what his recruiting philosophy is. Patterson and Zanna are 5th year players complete products of our system. Wright, Jones, Johnson and Robinson are developing products and the freshman are trying to catch on. That is how we do it here, it works well, and we are hoping that as time goes on we even get better at it.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:46 pm

@Upittbaseball, Why doesn’t Jimmy Bo recruit some kids who can rebound, or are we better at identifying that type of talent?

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:50 pm

Ok guys…. I forgot we pay are ok with paying Dixon 2M a year to shit the bed in March.. Sorry. I will try to remember that he is coaching em up and we should be happy because we win 20+ games even though 14 of them are against nobodies.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 3:12 pm

Actually, then, Boeheim should be embarrassed to have beaten Pitt, by 5 points one game, and by
2 points the other???

Allthough, one would have to wonder, pryor to last night Pitt has been 13-5 against Boeheim the last 10 years.

6-1 against Boeheim the last 7 pryor to last night.

So, what would you have called that dominance over Syracuse these past years??

Did something suddenly change last night because of a long desperation shot??

I’m missing something here.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:18 pm

6-1 at The Pete.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:20 pm

Maybe we need alleged alums like you Upittbaseball that can pay off some of these star recruits’ ‘handlers’ so they will pay play for Pitt

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 4:21 pm

A couple Sweet 16’s and an Elite 8 in his first 9 years coaching is shitting the bed??

Shit away Jamie, shit away!!!

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:22 pm

Hey, throw in last nights and this years games.

Pitt is 13-7 against Syracuse last 20.

Pitt is 6-2 against Syracuse last eight at Pete.

So, give me some analysis on that please.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:25 pm

Love Sean Miller.

He got bounced in the first round at Xavier, and

he just got bounced first round with Arizona in 2011-2012.

I’m not quite ready to put him in Adolph Rupp’s or Dean Smith’s categories.

Also, with Boeheim and Miller having this incredible talent, shouldn’t they be winning National Championship’s after National Championship?

I mean, they should be perennially in the Final Four.

They must be under-achieving coaches I guess?

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:30 pm

ha ha ha LMAO!!! My apologies, my apologies.

Miller didn’t get bounced in the first round of the NCAA tourney in 2011-2012………

He got bounced in the first round of the N.I.T. in 2011-2012!!!!

LOL Again, my sincerest apologies.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:34 pm

Dan – Joke all you want. My point is valid. Yes Dixon has had Boheim’s number. In the same breath Calhoun had Dixon’s number. The point is the program is stuck and if we just added talent to the mix instead of coaching them up guys we would be better off. Ennis may or may not go pro. Fair has been there 2-3 years and he is awesome. We need to recruit better and let the kids play.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 6:01 pm

After all of the analysis, debate, critical reviews and final thoughts on the subject, one constant remains,,,,,,

Tell me, anyone of you that read this post, who wouldn’t want to trade places with this kid named Ennis who just made some enduring Syracuse history last night??? Think he may be living large today back at campus?

I really don’t care what team you hold close to your soul, that buzzer beater is the essence of why most of us follow the drama of sports. Last night was classic, it just is too frickin bad that Pitt ended up on the short end of the equation this time.

But In every case, the sign off for me is always the same, because I loved the time spent at my alma mater back in the day, Hail To Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.13.14 @ 7:20 pm

None of my posts were joking at all, except that Arizona one, where I mistakenly said they lost in the first round of NCAA, when I looked again, I noticed it was the NIT.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 7:56 pm

No, you are incorrect!!!

Dixon v. Calhoun 7-7 how does Calhoun have Dixon’s number??

If you want to through in last year, Pitt beat UCONN with Ollie as coach,

so, Dixon is 8-7 all time vs. UCONN.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 7:57 pm

We win against nobody’s??

Could you please name me one NCAA team who doesn’t have 10 wins against nobody’s??

Arizona out of conference wins:

Cal Poly
Long Beach State
Fairleigh Dickinson
Rhode Island
Texas Tech
Las Vegas
New Mexico State
Northern Arizona

They played Duke and Michigan. Great, it’s not like they don’t have their share of nobody’s, no???

I want a good home and home as much as anyone, but, come on, every team plays 10 rent a wins.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 8:04 pm

Also, I don’t think Boeheim or Calhoun won any National Championship till their 23rd or 24th year coaching.

Too tired to look it up, they’re both around there.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 8:06 pm

Final thought. Of course, I want better recruits, better outcomes in the tourney, but, there are some posts on here that make Pitt out to be some second hand rag, when in fact for the last 12 years they’ve been a consistent top 20 team. Many years top 10, and a couple years they were #1.

So, to make Pitt hoops out to be some sort of Idaho St. is ridiculous.

Are we Duke, Kentucky, Kansas or North Carolina, no, of course not, but out of 351 Div 1 teams, there are about 321 that would change places with us in a heartbeat.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 8:09 pm

Dan – yes we have been a great program but we cant be so satisfied we dont want to be like the UNC’s and UCLA’s and Michigan States and Dukes. Our success is nice but it has made us complacent in my opinion. You make some good points but until we go into a final four I am hesitant to beleive Dixon is as good as many. Goodnight. Baseball opens tomorrow.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 11:22 pm

That’s very fair Upitt, I was thinking you thought the program was mediocre, and I feel it’s a pretty good program.

I’m not complacent, and I do my share of criticizing Dixon at times.

I want more, I just think Dixon is gonna be here awhile, and I’m hoping he grows and evolves.

By the way, I love Sean Miller, Pitt hero.

What Pitt fan doesn’t.

Comment by Dan 02.14.14 @ 10:22 am

I also learned from you. That you feel Pitt does have a great program, I will now look at your posts differently knowing where you are coming from.

FWIW, Dixon does have one of the top players coming in two years in Herron.

He was a top 15 type, but looking at rivals and scout, they say his stock is rising and will be one of the top 5 players in the country when he graduates.

Can we keep him signed, who know’s??

Comment by Dan 02.14.14 @ 10:32 am

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