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February 12, 2014

7pm on ESPN.

Dave O’Brien and Doris Burke are the announcing crew, so it’s going to be all about the game.

You may have heard and will hear something about that 9-0 versus top-5 teams at the Pete. So that’s out there.

There’s also the fact that the last time Syracuse beat Pitt at the Pete was 10 years ago in a 48-45 mess of a game.

Questions abound on the overall health of the team. How severe is Lamar Patterson’s thumb injury, really? How is Talib Zanna’s ankle?

This will be the fourth straight game versus ACC teams that play at a slower tempo than Pitt. ACC purists can complain all they want about the change to their conference, but the slower tempo is really being driven by their own teams not Pitt and Syracuse.





I posted this on the earlier thread. Continues to intrigue me for some reason.

OK, I know that there is really no relationship here. But it is sort of interesting that our ACC losses this year in hoops are to teams who we beat in football—and our wins in hoops are over teams to whom we lost in football. If this holds, we beat UNC and Florida State—and lose to Notre Dame. Tonight’s game is a toss up, since we lost already once to Syracuse and only beat them once in football.

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 02.12.14 @ 4:03 pm

Do you think the new D coach will be at the game
he was to be in town today.
A win would be so great .

Comment by Frankcan 02.12.14 @ 4:04 pm

While Pitt’s tempo is faster than most of the ACC, it really is partly Syracuse’s fault. They’re the slowest team out of the 170 some major teams. This will probably be another slow slogfest.

Comment by Patric 02.12.14 @ 4:10 pm

Would love to see a win tonight, but tough to imagine given the recent play over the past 4-5 games.

Comment by HL2Pitt 02.12.14 @ 4:33 pm

Can’t we play percentages?? Due to have a good shooting game.

Comment by Dan 02.12.14 @ 4:48 pm

And as far as streaks or streaking, I heard that’s Dr. Tom’s department???

Comment by Dan 02.12.14 @ 5:00 pm

@Dan

Yeah. Can’t wait till the Final Four party at Upitt’s house. Dr Tom is a party animal.

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 02.12.14 @ 5:43 pm

Looks like the Dook – UNC game is canceled due to the storm (Dickie V must be so disappointed)

link to espn.go.com

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 6:00 pm

Duke – UNC postponed! What, Duke has all of 8 miles to travel to the Deandome?

Comment by wbb 02.12.14 @ 6:01 pm

That’s total superstitious nonsense pmdH2P. I’m confident, based on only the facts, be logical, statistics don’t lie.

Look at the data, Pitt is 5-0 when you’re wearing your lucky Blue & Gold Boxers, you already said previously that you’re wearing them so the game’s in the bag! That is unless,,,,,

OK, this one factor however could produce a technical problem, so I don’t give a $hit how good looking &/or frisky your wife is tonight, if she happens to come on to you during halftime, just say no, DON’T DO IT!!! I’VE GOT SERIOUS SKIN IN THIS GAME! The Boxer statistics don’t lie, stay the course and Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.12.14 @ 6:13 pm

I’m hoping storm doesn’t cancel Pitt Syr for me. Satellite reception might get sketchy. We’re going to play well, can feel it.

Comment by Old School Panther 02.12.14 @ 6:16 pm

Yeah wbb….looks like Pitt is it tonight!

Old School…if it does you can always watch it online:

link to feed2all.eu

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 6:20 pm

OK….which one of you guys told Emel’s boss about Blather?

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 6:21 pm

NCAA selection committee hopes for more fairness

link to hosted.ap.org

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 6:28 pm

Panthers favored by 2.5pts tonight. Weird. I am now more confused about this game than ever.

Comment by WorkinOnMyPittness 02.12.14 @ 6:31 pm

I see no way Pitt even stays close tonight, even if everyone is healthy. When I used to gamble, we would call an odd line like this the “Mafia game of the week”. Rooting for the Mafia tongight.

H2P!!

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 7:05 pm

abd with the object of my sexual desire, Doris Burke, no less!!

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 7:11 pm

Lively start. Offensive rebounding has been much better.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 7:11 pm

Dan 72, Dude it’s lonely out there, yes. But, Doris Burke?…Gosh Dang, Boyyy! Geez that’s a little off. Wooo…

Let me go shake that off.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 7:14 pm

a win here sets up a nice weekend of sports with the usa-slovakia game in 12 hours. slow going here early, the zoo coming across great on tv.

Comment by usd121 02.12.14 @ 7:16 pm

Those sexy glasses help keep stuff out of her eyes

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.12.14 @ 7:20 pm

i’ll feel good about our chances if patterson keeps making shots like that

Comment by usd121 02.12.14 @ 7:34 pm

I thought EMel was his own boss.
Pitt is it win one for the blue and gold shorts

Comment by Frankcan 02.12.14 @ 7:36 pm

What thumb injury?

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 7:36 pm

Tim Tebow tackled Bigfoot. The boy is good.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 7:37 pm

We should have taken advantage a bit more there. You could see that we had a small opening to take a larger lead but failed to execute.

Still, up by 3 versus the number one team in the country. I will take it.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 7:50 pm

I see Pitt moving the ball quicker and at a faster pace tonight than maybe all year. Just wish we could hit some shots. Still, like Panthoor, I will take it. up 3 at the half.

My great fear is that Cuse hits 4-5 in a row and Pitt cannot recover.

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 7:56 pm

Cuse has more FT attempts than Pitt. I hope Pitt has a rare (for this year anyway) good 2nd half.

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 7:57 pm

Fraud graham ain’t gonna like this…he he…

link to hosted.ap.org

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 8:00 pm

Pitt taking too many 3-pointers (10 in first half). If they shoot 10 more in the second half then I don’t like our chances.

Comment by WorkinOnMyPittness 02.12.14 @ 8:03 pm

Everyone for Pitt is contributing. A nice game for Pitt thus far.

Comment by MariettaMike 02.12.14 @ 8:05 pm

Big three-point shot.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 8:10 pm

Bite their faces off!

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 8:12 pm

Pitt is doing to Cuse what everyone has done to Pitt. Play with a lead and slow the game to a crawl. Hope we can keep it up. Up 6 with 15 and change.

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 8:19 pm

To be honest, I was dreading playing ‘Cuse tonight, given our injuries and sluggish play as of late.

Comment by Lou 02.12.14 @ 8:23 pm

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.12.14 @ 8:25 pm

Patterson’s getting better as the game goes on. Zanna’s ankle bothering him.

Comment by Howard 02.12.14 @ 8:28 pm

Cuse is traditionally poor from the FT line but are 12-15 tonight.

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 8:33 pm

these missed free throws are infuriating. jr is doing a good job of creating contact to draw fouls though, at least he can make free throws

Comment by usd121 02.12.14 @ 8:37 pm

#11 tripped him!

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 8:39 pm

3 awful officials calls and 3 questionable all have gone against Pitt. Ball was bouncing our way but now seems to be 50/50. Still with a 3 point lead and waiting the outcome of another officials call conference.

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 8:41 pm

Randall is really playing some D…

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 8:42 pm

Big Mo starting to favor Syracuse. Pitt with 4 turnovers in a row. Not good. Tie game

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 8:43 pm

looks like boeheim is learning dixon’s sarcastic smile

Comment by usd121 02.12.14 @ 8:51 pm

“I thought he may have been tripped.” Yeah….how about the 10 replays showing Robinson being tripped by #11?

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 8:52 pm

Ugh…

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 8:58 pm

Patterson laziness on defense has cost us a 6 point lead. Last 5 Points for Cuse are in Patterson’s lack of hustle

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 02.12.14 @ 9:00 pm

Run the regular offense!!! What’s the plan here? Keep throwing up off balance NBA 3′s as the shot clock expires???

Comment by Kenny Powers 02.12.14 @ 9:01 pm

Jesus

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 02.12.14 @ 9:04 pm

again and again.

Comment by goalie44 02.12.14 @ 9:05 pm

Fair has 8 of their last 10 points. A real clutch player and leader. Wish we had one.

Comment by htp123 02.12.14 @ 9:06 pm

Pitt down one…10 seconds …we are tipping our passes..and Cuse has picked it up. Need a miracle…a basket

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 9:06 pm

Last 4 minutes, terrible offense AGAIN

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 02.12.14 @ 9:06 pm

Unbelievable. No doubt we will heave a long 3 ball. Patterson is the only one who should take it. He needs to redeem himself.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 9:06 pm

Wow, I was wrong. How refreshing….

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 9:07 pm

My bad – tonight it’s TZ at the end.

Comment by htp123 02.12.14 @ 9:08 pm

I blame Dixon on bringing them back… Just run the offense and not the clock. Terribly cached in the last 3 minutes.

Comment by Mike 02.12.14 @ 9:09 pm

wow. zanna having himself a very nice game. 8-9 from the ft line too!

Comment by usd121 02.12.14 @ 9:09 pm

Don’t like the timeout

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 02.12.14 @ 9:09 pm

You got to be kidding me.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 9:10 pm

I’m sick….

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 9:10 pm

again and again

Comment by goalie44 02.12.14 @ 9:11 pm

Nice gift Jaime

Comment by Mike 02.12.14 @ 9:11 pm

Holy Shit!

Comment by htp123 02.12.14 @ 9:11 pm

this team chokes every time!

Comment by goalie44 02.12.14 @ 9:11 pm

Dixon should have not called that timeout. Not sure why you let them compose themselves like that.

Comment by Panthoor 02.12.14 @ 9:12 pm

Still don’t like the timeout, but hell of a shot

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 02.12.14 @ 9:12 pm

I’m physically ill.

Comment by Vonteego's Way 02.12.14 @ 9:12 pm

Brutal loss to a team used to winning close games vs a team used to losing close games. Not much Pitt could have done better defensively. Just not as many atheletes as Cuse. Gut wrenching..just gut wrenching.

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 9:12 pm

Ennis killed us again….gutsy performance by Pitt though.

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 9:12 pm

Whoever said this one’s on Dixon for clock management is right on. Took the team completely out of rhythm and made Syracuse’s job easy on defense.

Comment by htp123 02.12.14 @ 9:13 pm

Dumb timeout. I think I am going to go vomit.

Comment by Yeti 02.12.14 @ 9:13 pm

Dumb timeout indeed. Every time he takes a TO, Pitt gets burned .. although it was a lucky shot

Comment by wbb 02.12.14 @ 9:14 pm

Another tough loss. Someday we’ll get the break.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by MariettaMike 02.12.14 @ 9:14 pm

#11 is two things, a Freshman and MONEY! Ice for blood in that kid!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.12.14 @ 9:14 pm

No way to get around it….Pitt has no ability, players or coaches, to get a shot when they need it in the last 3 minutes

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 02.12.14 @ 9:15 pm

Nothing wrong with Dixon calling timeout. Give Enid credit for making an amazing shot.

Comment by MariettaMike 02.12.14 @ 9:16 pm

JD didn’t initially call the timeout. He called it when he saw the lineup on defense and realized that Cuse was going to go over the top.

I only saw the last few minutes. Is it worth going back to watch? When was Robinson tripped? And why wasn’t it called?

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 9:17 pm

Cuse has no timeouts…and he lets them off the hook by calling a TO.

Lucky shot no doubt, but that is how you coach to lose.

Comment by Emel 02.12.14 @ 9:18 pm

Pittypical

Comment by Kenny Powers 02.12.14 @ 9:19 pm

Got to give it to the kid … Great shot. Pitt has a way of creating legends!

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 02.12.14 @ 9:20 pm

Sometimes you are unlucky but twice (also VA) in one year.

Comment by Frank 02.12.14 @ 9:22 pm

#pittthebed

Comment by Yeti 02.12.14 @ 9:22 pm

the game was lost in the last 3 or 4 possessions when then run the clock down and gets a pathetic shot …. sadly a trademark of the recent era … and no, I don’t think Jamie should be replaced,

Comment by wbb 02.12.14 @ 9:23 pm

Should have never called the to bad bad bad need to quit micro managing

Comment by John 02.12.14 @ 9:27 pm

I don’t understand it. The ONE guy I WOULD NEVER LET touch the ball is Tyler Ennis. Would have doubled him and let one big open. He’s the only player fast enough and good enough to get up court and get the shot off in 4.5 seconds. It was a terrific game. Pitt just missed too many chippies around the hoop. What a heart breaker.

Comment by Justinian 02.12.14 @ 9:28 pm

On the positive side, it looks like Lamar and Talib are getting healthier.

Comment by pitt1972 02.12.14 @ 9:28 pm

Sad to say it’s games like this that lead to our fan base having a defeatist attitude.

Great effort by Zanna and Patterson. The `Cuse has terrific shooting talent. I have been following Pitt since 1959 and this one is right up at or near the top of our long (too long) list of horrific endings.

Comment by isnore 02.12.14 @ 9:29 pm

What an awesome game….Talib looked good, I would put Lamar at 80%. Some shots were off, and he had a handful of sloppy ball handling efforts that led to turnovers, that I would blame on his thumb.

Still, a great game, this team is learning, I liked what Doris Burke was saying about Jamie challenging their effort. It might yet pay off.

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.12.14 @ 9:31 pm

Although Enis made the winning basket as the clock expired, this game was lost on Pitt’s poor defense in the last two minutes. That said, Pitt played even with the #1 team in the country. By the way, the Vegas odds had Pitt by 1.5. Ouch!

Comment by MariettaMike 02.12.14 @ 9:32 pm

Choking dogs.

Comment by BATR 02.12.14 @ 9:32 pm

this team is not learning. that’s 4 games they let get away.

Comment by goalie44 02.12.14 @ 9:32 pm

Tonight reminds me of this game…

link to youtube.com

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 9:35 pm

Zanna was terrific … we just saw over the past few games how valuable he is.

I am once again assured that the freshmen will cause us many great moments over the next few years, but concerned if we will be hurt at the 5.

Comment by wbb 02.12.14 @ 9:36 pm

My guess is that Dixon told them to keep it out of the kids hands but… Players have to execute.

It is interesting to see all of the close games that Cuse has own and Pitt has lost. The difference between good and great.
Pitt has to learn to be great. It’s all of the small things … Hustle, finishing layups, foul shooting, pressing, avoiding turnovers. Pitt doesn’t do those consistently.

Pitt was picked to finishe 6th in ACC
Current standings
Cuse
UVA
Duke
Pitt
UNC

Looks like Pitt is at risk of finishing 5 at best as UNC is improving and we get them on the road. We are who they said we are…

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 02.12.14 @ 9:36 pm

@Justinian, Ennis was doubled. Watch the replay.

Comment by MariettaMike 02.12.14 @ 9:36 pm

Dixon shares the blame for calling that TO. Any time you give a team time to set a play you give them the advantage. Reminded me of Vandy in OT back in the 80′s. Still a hell of a shot by Ennis but that is a standard play for every D1 basketball team run at the end of practice. Every dribble is 1 second and he had 4.4 to go. Took 3 dribbles and boom…I would say “what else can happen” to Jamie but don’t think he wants to hear it. He may be the worst late game close game coach in basketball!

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 9:37 pm

Can’t blame Pitt’s D….it’s their offense that stinks right now.

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.14 @ 9:39 pm

Ennis was doubled all the way up the court. He was challenged on the shot. It went in. You guys are amazing. I am damned proud of this team. Not feeling so great about some of you at the moment.

H2P!!!

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 9:39 pm

Cincinnati, Virginia and tonight this team can’t buy a break

Comment by Chick 02.12.14 @ 9:43 pm

Other than thanking Doris Burke for those sexy glasses, I would want to point out 1 little thing that is a fundamental that needs to be fixed. Many on this site have played basketball up through HS and beyond and have at least coached their son’s or daughter’s rec team. It is one of the first 4 things you teach a player about handling the basketball.

YOU NEVER PASS THE BALL OFF A DRIBBLE WITHOUT STOPPING MOMENTUM! EVER ….you will always telegraph the pass and Cuse picked off 3 tonight and almost got another 3. JR was the biggest culprit but Patterson and Nuke each had one.

C’mon coaches…it’s one thing to have your heads in your posterior late in the game but this practice.

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 9:44 pm

Fair’s wide open 3 point shot was the killer. Ennis made a tough shot. Beat NC this Saturday.

Comment by gdodson 02.12.14 @ 9:46 pm

If anyone remembers, Ennis nearly hit a end of the half shot in the 1rst half.

Apparently JD must have forgot that one. Last guy you want with the ball. Whether that ball went in or not, calling a timeout when the team with ball has NONE, has ALWAYS been a ‘No, No’ in coaching.

This stuff over the years just keeps repeating and repeating itself.

It is indeed…..Groundhog Day (the movie).

Comment by Emel 02.12.14 @ 9:46 pm

I think if Jamie would have let them play, we would have lost on another kind of shot. It’s just the way things go for Pitt Basketball.

But you have to be a damn good team year in and year out to create that many legends. Just once Pitt should get a break late. Hope it’s in the NCAA’s for a change.

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 9:47 pm

Phil was obviously a Pitt grad, but at least he got Andi McDowell at the end.

We get nothing, but remorse.

Good nite…I’m out !

Comment by Emel 02.12.14 @ 9:52 pm

Syracuse is #1 for a reason — they find a way to win. This is a trait I’d like to see in Pitt against tough competition. Someday…

Comment by MariettaMike 02.12.14 @ 9:58 pm

Anyone else feel that with under a minute if Robinson steps in and holds his ground on the cuse fastbreak and takes a charge and falls down we get the charge call. Don’t recall Pitt taking a charge all year.

Also, Boeheim let it slip in post game interview. On Pitts next to last possession, “We knew they were going to take a bad shot, we just had to secure the rebound.” Your a great coach Jim, but 99% of Pitt fans could of told your team that.

Comment by Z-Boy 02.12.14 @ 10:00 pm

Just got home, terrific game till the last shot. However, they made 3 of the last 4 field goals, we made 1 of 6. Fair’s three made shots in a row killed us. You can blame Jamie all you want but we had our chances and didn’t get it done when it counted most.

The Pete was tremendous. The good news, Patterson and Zanna are back.

Comment by gc 02.12.14 @ 10:02 pm

Let’s accept reality… Ennis made a great shot and won the game. That play is not on Dixon. The kid delivered.

Could we have done things better earlier in the game ? Yes but so could Cuse. Game decide but a great lucky shot. Lightning struck. Enough said.

I liked seeing Zanna and Patterson getting their form back. Energy was there. Team must move forward and forget about this one. They will probably see Cuse in ACC tourney.

Eventually we will get the monkey off of our back. Believe. It happened with Ben Howland’s Pitt teams and it will happen for Dixon.

If you are still complaining then remember one name… Ralph Williard.

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 02.12.14 @ 10:09 pm

heart wrenching loss…Pitt’s inablility to score in the last 5 minutes is tipical of this team..extremely disappointing….ugh

Comment by Keith 02.12.14 @ 10:11 pm

Calling that time out was inexcusable. Period.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 02.12.14 @ 10:12 pm

it wasn’t just the final shot. Pitt was outscored 10-2 in final 1:45

Comment by wbb 02.12.14 @ 10:12 pm

Pitt Fan, I agree 100% with your comment. These close games will make us a better team in tbe tournaments. I bet we move up in the polls. There are no good losses, but we earned some respect tonight.

Comment by HbgFrank 02.12.14 @ 10:15 pm

It happens to all teams…Fields big shot against Duke, Ramon against hippies, Ashton against Providence…when we won those games, we congratulated on great shooting.

So congrats to Ennis….and hopefully, we play them again and win going away!

Hail to PITT!
-al-

Comment by Oregon_Panther 02.12.14 @ 10:20 pm

There’s a reason these heartbreakers keep happening. It’s not bad luck. Pitt won’t get over the hump, unless they get lucky.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 02.12.14 @ 10:23 pm

We just need to take care of UNC. Put this behind us. A couple of good beers did that for me.

Comment by panther94 02.12.14 @ 10:23 pm

I can see Pitt getting crushed sat against UNC…I hope not…but we could tank…ugh

Comment by Keith 02.12.14 @ 10:36 pm

Wow, has there ever been a team that has more bad luck- or opponents that have more good luck against them-than Pitt? At least we played with them the entire game. It’s hard to beat a team 3 times in one year. Maybe our time is during the ACC Tourney. Hope the team learns from it. Too many opportunities squandered late by running the clock down under 10 sec. then launching a crappy 3 pt shot.

Comment by Annie 02.12.14 @ 10:37 pm

I would love to hear what Dixon said during that timeout. “Don’t foul”. Even Doris Burke said, “well I think they’re going to Tyler Ennis”.

Then off the timeout, watch the replay, Wright, Young and Newkirk were confused about who had who. Then why was Newkirk on Ennis.? Then neither wright nor Newkirk even tried to defend him. Why not deny Ennis the ball?

And Wright did a terrible job helping Newkirk. So passive.

Seriously, what did Jamie tell them?

Coaching malpractice.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 02.12.14 @ 10:39 pm

This loss has made me sick i do not even want to talk basketball.
I will change the subject for just one thing then you can go back to basketball.
The new DB coach was to be interduced to day and he was not did pitt even say that they had hired him.
If any one knows what is up post it please did it happen and i missed it or what.
tell me if you know then go back to basketball thanks

Comment by Frankcan 02.12.14 @ 10:40 pm

It is not bad luck.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 02.12.14 @ 10:41 pm

If Jamie doesn’t call the time out and they win the criticism would be even worse. The kid threw it in from nearly half court. He was pretty well covered. They just keep recruiting better guards. Ennis is probably the best of the bunch and that says a lot. Cooney’s threes kept them in the game.

If Robinson makes his three like Fair made his, or he draws a foul instead of getting called for a charge we win.

We played way better than we have been playing. We made a few too many errors passing the ball. Wright missed Patterson twice. Sometimes you lose to the better team. But all in all a way better game than I expected. Probably the best game we played all year.

Comment by gc 02.12.14 @ 10:45 pm

I’m tired of watching Pitt lose with a few seconds left because the opposing player just charges down the court…

I don’t know basketball so I don’t know why… so I am not implying why…. just sucks to keep watching…

Comment by Pittscript 02.12.14 @ 10:58 pm

I agree GC.

Time to move onto UNC. Heart breaking loss but as pointed out earlier we have delivered our own heart breakers to teams over the years. Ask Cuse and GTown.

H2P and onto UNC. We aren’t going to win the ACC regular season so who will remember the 2-14th teams that finished anyways. Tme to end the season well and get a bid to the NCAA’s. Chance for us to win the ACC tournament or NCAA tournament. Preferably both. That goal was still on the table. I hope that Jamie points this out to the players tomorrow morning or in the locker room tonight.

As I mentioned earlier there are a lot of good things to take away from this game tonight. Zanna and Patterson played well.

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 02.12.14 @ 11:01 pm

gc i know you are in basketball mode but just take a second to think abought this the Trib says Douglas is are new DB coach as does football scoop and outhers.
But nothing from pitt nothing offical dont you find that crazy was there a last second screw up.

Comment by Frankcan 02.12.14 @ 11:02 pm

Timeout lets Syracuse set a play and get composed. ESPN is in agreement.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.12.14 @ 11:17 pm

Fair makes 5 of his 14 points in the last 1:42. He shot only 6/14 all night.

Ennis hits a 35 foot shot with two guys on him. Yes. He was guarded no matter what you guys think.

Lamar missed a shot with 15 sec left and then missed the putback.

In the last 5 minutes we were outscored 10-5.

There’s your ball game.

Proud of our guys.

H2P!!!

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 11:17 pm

Starkey blames Pitt’s offense for loss
link to triblive.com

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.12.14 @ 11:18 pm

@Upittbaseball – and, of course, ESPN always has good things to say about Pitt.

If you watch the replay, Syracuse was set for the inbounds before JD called the TO. It seemed clear they were going to try to go over the top. If he doesn’t call the TO, maybe they make that play and we lose by 1 instead of 2. He called the TO. If Ennis misses a 35 FOOT shot, we’re not having this discussion.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 11:22 pm

We were outscored 10-5 in the last 5 minutes. Nuff said.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 11:23 pm

Oh well, it was a great game.

Comment by Justinian 02.12.14 @ 11:23 pm

Excuse me. 10-6 in the last 5. And 13-8 in the last 6.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 11:27 pm

Good, not great.

Comment by tvax1 02.12.14 @ 11:29 pm

Let’s have great in the tournament.

That’d be fine by me.

Comment by tvax1 02.12.14 @ 11:30 pm

The Pete was a great atmosphere tonight and that was a great game. I thought Pitt played well. Cuse hit shots at the end; we didn’t. That could be the theme of this season.

I am encouraged by Zanna and Patterson’s play. Thought team defense and rebounding was much better than have been for two weeks. Hopefully we have some gas left in the tank for UNC.

When Dixon called the TO, I yelled ‘No!’, but I can’t say it was the reason they lost. Kid hit a ridiculous shot. It happens, unfortunately it feels like it happens more to Pitt.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.12.14 @ 11:32 pm

“”That’s the shot we wanted him to take,” Pitt’s Lamar Patterson told WAER Sports after the game. “There’s nothing we could do about it.”

Sounds like a fair assessment to me.

Yes, I’m aware some are criticizing Pitt coach Jamie Dixon for calling a timeout to let Syracuse design a play at the end, and I recognize Dixon’s decision to not put a man on the inbounds passer is questionable. (I mean, we’ve all seen that Christian Laettner shot, right?) But to focus on that stuff is to miss the larger point, which is that Boeheim didn’t actually get what he wanted coming out of that timeout, and that Syracuse was forced into taking the shot Pittsburgh wanted Syracuse to take, which is to say an off-balanced 35-footer.

Like Patterson said, there’s nothing Pittsburgh could do about it.

Tyler Ennis just sank a lucky shot.”

link to cbssports.com

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 11:32 pm

So far the worst thing I’ve read all night…

“According to the win probability calculator at http://kenpom.com Pitt had a 97.7% chance of winning with 1:56 left. #CUSEvsPITT”

Obviously kenpom does not take into play Pitt way of holding onto the ball until one second is left on the shot clock then chucking up an off balance shots from 25 feet. Then do this over and over..rinse repeat..never learn that this doesn’t work.

Comment by opitt 02.12.14 @ 11:39 pm

Syracuse led for 1:24 the entire game. Unfortunately they led in the end.

That was not a lucky shot. It is a play that I have practiced and run with every team I have coached. It is practiced by almost every HS and College team at the end of every practice. No the shot does not always go in…but they could never have set it up and run it without Jamie’s TO

Each of us has our own top 5 brutal Pitt losses, most of them in the NCAA’s. I would rank this one at number 4 behind Nova, Butler, Vandy and UConn 2005.

Comment by Dan 72 02.12.14 @ 11:46 pm

Boeheim called it “a lucky shot” and gave PITT praise.

I know a lot of PITT fans don’t care for him, but he has been very complimentary to PITT before and after the game. Plus he posed with PITT fans for photos before the game.

Hail to PITT!
-al-

Comment by Oregon_Panther 02.12.14 @ 11:51 pm

@Dan 72 – of the many times you have run that play in practice, how many times has it gone in with the player on the move, shooting from 35 feet with two men on him?

And, since it is a play that you have practiced and run with every team you’ve coached, and one that is practiced and run by every HS and college team, does it require a time-out to set it up and run it? If so, what play do you run when there isn’t a time-out?

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.12.14 @ 11:59 pm

I always liked Boeheim….

Comment by Jackagain 02.13.14 @ 12:01 am

Just finished watching the game. It’s 12:30. Have to work tomorrow. Have had 3 fairly strong beers (fwiw, 2 Troeg’s nugget nectar and 1 Victory dirt wolf). Trying to decide whether to just continue staring at the wall in disbelief or do some shots of
… Something. It’s Just. Too. Much.

Comment by Carmen 02.13.14 @ 12:39 am

My 12 yo was crying from this gut wrencher. I’m feeling better now than before this game. We really could use a win at UNC, but no matter what, we will be a tough out in the tourney.

Even Randall played effectively.

My big criticism is our slowing it down with about 3 minutes left where we should have worked for a shot through the entire 35 sec.

Missing DJ, but we may be back with a W on Sat.

H2P!!!

Comment by tvax1 02.13.14 @ 1:06 am

The sad fact is that Pitt is going to have the same team year after year until they can land an explosive offensive talent who can get his own shot. Easier said than done, but you’d think after a decade+ of some success, one of the country’s best home courts, and always being in one of, if not THE, best conference, they would have had 1 or 2 by now.

If I see fhem run the shot clock down to 10 seconds, then consistently fail to get a quality shot again, I may break my TV. Against a zone all those passes from wing to point to wing gives a short handed team playing zone time to rest, and puts our guys in a position to force shots.

Good effort by the boys. They played their hearts out. But they should have won by 10 tonight. There’s a reason that other coaches and the press don’t really rank Dixon as a top coach.

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 02.13.14 @ 1:09 am

Who gives a flying feck what other coaches and media think?

It’s sad if you do…

Comment by Pitt2Cali 02.13.14 @ 3:25 am

I’d say that coaches are usually a good judge of other coaches….. They have some experience with these things.

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 02.13.14 @ 4:17 am

Ennis is a five star recruit. Deny the ball to him, Cooney is a shooter with no handles. Let him get it, easier cover. Oh well, win out and play well in the ACC tourney. All will be fine.

Comment by Pittastic 02.13.14 @ 4:39 am

95% of “those other coaches” in the country would kill to have the success that Dixon has had….

Out of the 5 games we’ve lost, 3 of them came down to the last second… The last second.

Pitt can play with anyone in the country… Not because of great talent …because of great coaching. Period.

Jamie gets more out of his talent than anyone else in the nation…

Bill Self has a “top recruiting class” every year
But has managed to lose 5 games this year too…

Roy Williams has a “top recruiting class” every year and has managed to lose a game or two (or 5) as well…

Ask “top coach” Jim Bohiem if he thinks Jamie Dixon is a “top coach” ?

If he say no, ask him about his record is against him…

Comment by Pitt2Cali 02.13.14 @ 5:19 am

Ask him about *what* his record is against him…

*sent from iPhone*

Comment by Pitt2Cali 02.13.14 @ 5:30 am

According to ESPN, Tyler Ennis in one-possession games in the final 5 minutes of reg/OT is 8-of-9 FG, 14-14 FT, 6 assists, 0 TOs. His two free throws with the Pete at full throat was just as impressive as the running 35 footer.

That’s off the charts clutch.

The TO didn’t cost us the game, Pitt was defensively disorganized before the in bounds, had Syracuse gone over the top for a layup or let a coast to coast drive beat them there would be plenty of people complaining that Dixon lost the game with a time out in his pocket.

To me, the game was lost when Fair was left wide open in the corner for a three. He had time to tie his shoes before he released the shot. You just can not give up a wide open look like that in the waning moments of a game.

Also, we failed to finish at the rim…AGAIN…at the end of the game. And, we just don’t have anyone WILLING to take shots at the end of a possession. It’s incredible to see a collection of Division 1 caliber basketball players who don’t look interested in scoring when they get a decent look.

On to UNC.

Comment by ECH 02.13.14 @ 6:43 am

Yeah, I love the comment about the time out allowing Suracuse to compose themselves and draw up the last four second play of the basketball game.

I can hear it now, “okay we’ll pass it in and as soon as we get to midcourt throw it to Ennis, he’ll heave it as far as he can for nothing but net! Yeah that’ll work!!

Quit feeling sorry for yourselves. Heartbreaking loss, yes. Hard-fought game by both teams just like the big east of old.

A Hail Mary that just happened to drop at the buzzer is nothing to be ashamed about.

I have nothing but praise for Ennis, that kid is the real deal. Icewater for blood.

Get ready for UNC. H2P!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.13.14 @ 6:57 am

Is Jamie Dixon Wanny II? Playing not to win? Is there a reason why Pitt keeps losing close games?

Pitt had a 6 point lead with 1:45 left and scored 2 free throws the rest of the way. More importantly, in 3 of the 4 possessions, they didn’t even get a good shot, throwing up a pathetic shot at the shot clock … Butler (last full possession) revisisted if you ask me.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 7:26 am

Someone please tell JD that Pitt did outrebound the cuse, but LOST. I figure he’ll be ecstatic they won the rebounding battle and give the team a week off from practice. Its an important part of the game coach, I get it, but its not THE game. How bout we focus on some other things now!

Comment by Z-Boy 02.13.14 @ 7:39 am

Agree w/ wbb. The offensive sets are tentative and the players are in the last few minutes of these close games. Outscored 10-3 in the last 2 minutes of this game. Desperation 3s as the shot clock is running out. That is scared basketball. Why battle for 38 minutes only to play like you’re petrified of losing the last 2. I don’t get it. And it happens over and over and over…

Comment by Carmen 02.13.14 @ 7:40 am

ECH has it correct. Patterson strolled over to guard Fair, he hit the open 3. And Patterson had one other blown defense shortly before that – he was switched on to Cooney, left Cooney when the ball went inside, the ball came back out and Cooney hit a 3.

Pitt had some awful passes in the 2nd half to nobody. And then 3 chances at a basket before Ennis hit the free throws.

These are the moments where the game was lost.

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.13.14 @ 7:42 am

The reason for the loss is the late offensive sets as stated.

No reason to pucker up the asshole at the end of a game. Keep playing as you were.

Running the shot clock down and taking rushed shots will continue to be the reason this team loses close games until Dixon changes it.

Besides that, I think Dixon is doing an awesome job with this team.

Comment by notrocketscience 02.13.14 @ 7:50 am

Have to say, my 12yo yells, “Why are they calling a time out?” My answer was, they(meaning Syracuse) are going to set up a play. He says, “NO, Syracuse didn’t have a time out to call”. I rewind the DVR to check and, he’s right, it is Pitt’s time out.
4, 3, 2, 1 , bomb hits, crying ensues here.

Where are the post game interview links? Jamie owes my 12yo an explanation.

Comment by TVax 02.13.14 @ 7:51 am

When I was at the game I thought the TO was beyond stupid. But after watching the play at home, the time out was the right call. An off-balanced, guarded 35 footer goes in about 5% of the time. It’s not like the dude hit a layup or a wide open shot. Cuse was going to get some sort of desperation shot off, they did and it went in.

There were two ehhh possessions in the last 2 or 3 minute, Pitt also had a pretty good look on one or two of the possessions.

I used to think as Lamar goes Pitt goes. But really I think it’s how Z goes. Z was hobbled a bunch against Miami and Va Tech and the team was bad. Z looks much better last night and the team plays much better.

Gotta go into UNC get the win. Have a week off after UNC so gotta go all out in that game.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.13.14 @ 8:08 am

We can second guess Jamie for calling his last timeout with 4.4 seconds left on the clock but its my opinion, Syracuse would have found a way to make a basket without Boeheim setting up Syracuse’ final play. Championship teams find a way to win. Pitt is got a baptism in how to finish a game.

The only way to beat Syracuse’ zone defense is to shoot over it and even then there is no guarantee of success because Syracuse can win a shooting game as well, they proved it.

Except for the last two minutes, in the game, Pitt’s defense played well. Syracuse outscored Pitt because they made uncontested shots; Pitt conversely could not beat the Syracuse zone and ended up taking a poor percentage shot.

Let’s give Syracuse credit for beating a good Pitt team in Pittsburgh. Pitt may get a third chance in Charloette with a chance at redemption. Let’s see if Pitt took good notes.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by MariettaMike 02.13.14 @ 8:10 am

Post-Gazette postmortem:

link to post-gazette.com

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.13.14 @ 8:19 am

Now that I had time to calm down I can now be a little optimistic.

1. Dixon is still a relatively “young” coach. Hopefully he is learning from his mistakes.
2. Pitt played well
3. A former Big East team in #1 in the country and ACC
4. We may get another shot at ‘Cuse, Duke and/or UVA in March.

Now time to shovel the 14 inches of snow out of my driveway.

Comment by Yeti 02.13.14 @ 8:24 am

In retrospect, face it … if Jamie doesn’t call time out and Ennis makes an off-balanced 35 footer, we are blasting him for NOT calling a TO.

Fact is that there is such a fine line between genius and failure in sports. If Ennis misses, Cuse fans are balming Boeheim for such a low percentage shot … and we are proclaiming the way JD played the last 2 minutes were probably th e only way he could have.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 8:28 am

Speaking of the last 2 minutes, I want to bring up something Doris Burke showed – the Pitt offense that had been effective all game, now wasn’t effective – and it was because Syracuse, particularly Cooney, was fighting hard through screens. There was a ton of effort out there, and where Pitt would set a screen and use that to pass inside or drive, at the end of the game that wasn’t there.

Contrast to Patterson watching from 10 feet away as an open Fair hits a 3.

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.13.14 @ 8:54 am

wbb, your last post sounds much more rational than an earlier one about continually losing close games. That one had me scratching my head since Pitt just had two consecutive overtime wins in their previous two games. Even though both wins came against inferior opposition, they pulled out wins nonetheless.

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.13.14 @ 8:56 am

Starting to feel like Chubbie Charlie Weis with this team…where our best wins are near wins (reference USC/ND Football game that was talked about endlessly and garnered Chubbie a 10year deal).

I digress.

I’m really sick still from last night (as we all are); however, I am going to say this like I said earlier. Saturday is, for all accounts, a MUST win for us. I don’t throw out “must wins” often because I think the cliche’ is overused… every game is a must win when your being judged for postseason.

Nonetheless, we absolutely need a win over a marquee brand AND one that will likely creep up into the Top 25 by season’s end. Plus, we need to have a tie breaker against them to assure that we get the double bye in the ACC (although we don’t fare well with double byes of late, but my sense it is still an advantage).

Must win on Saturday.

Comment by PaulyP 02.13.14 @ 9:38 am

Think about it this way. This team is close but just not good enough. If Durand Johnson would not have torn his ACL this team would by at worst 23 and 2 and ranked in the top 5 and we would all be touting what a great coach JD is. We may even be 25 and 0 at this point since DJ played sparingly against Cin. because he had the flu. There is such a fine line between being good and being great! Saturday is a big game.

Comment by JP 02.13.14 @ 9:49 am

Like I said last night, it was a terrific game at the Pete last night. Much better than I expected against the #1 team in the country. Especially after how we been playing.

For the most part the D was better, but there were those lapses, Cooney’s and Fair’s open threes.

I think the biggest difference between the teams is having a guard that can drive to the net make a layup and/or get fouled. They just got a few more easy baskets than we did.

We also had a few more unforced errors as well.

Man for man they are more talented,but we stayed with them till the very end.

I thought our season could go off the cliff, but if Zanna is getting healthy and Patterson is back we should be alright.

Don’t think we match up well against NC, but we’ll see.

Comment by gc 02.13.14 @ 10:02 am

I usually don’t read the PG sports columnists, or any sports columnists for that matter. Now I know why. Tripe would be upset to be compared to whatever the PG and Collier want to call that collection of letters and numbers.

Comment by Carmen 02.13.14 @ 10:03 am

I was against the timeout last night, and I would have to say, I guess I still am.

However, it’s kind of funny, if he doesn’t call a timeout, and they throw it over the top and you see a Syracuse player racing to the hoop for a last second layup, or going to the hoop and getting fouled and making two to win………….

we’d be hearing, “why the f didn’t Dixon call a timeout and get his team organized??”

Ahhh, human nature.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 10:05 am

agreed, oregonpanther, yes, so when Ramon, Gibbs and Fields hit buzzer beaters that go our way, I’m going to have to assume, Dixon must be a genius then, right??

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 10:09 am

gc, not sure how Pitt doesn’t match up well against UNC. They don’t shoot that well from 3, aren’t very efficient on offense and aren’t known for great D. Stats wise they are Stanford that rebounds better and plays a little bit better D.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.13.14 @ 10:22 am

The players are playing their best but sometimes it comes down to luck and a little extra talent. UNC game will be a tough one as Pitt players try to regroup and UNC off last night. Hope we can get a center and shooters for next year.

Comment by Frank 02.13.14 @ 10:23 am

I know this is a basketball post but have you noticed that pitt has not said that they have hired Douglas as are new DB coach no offical word

If you just went off what pitt says or does you would think there has benn no hire i find this strange.

And the way pitt has screwed things up in the past makes me worry.

Comment by Frankcan 02.13.14 @ 10:23 am

I haven’t read everything so I apologize if I rehash but I also needed to sleep this one off.

Man – that was rough. But it was also luck. Getting outscored 7-0 down the stretch until Zanna very cooly hit his free throws was unacceptable. Zanna’s attitude at the line was very encouraging though. Before he shot I could tell he was going to make both. He was very relaxed and laughing with the refs … back to the game.

Pitt did what they had to most of the game. Out-rebound and out-hustle Cuse. People are complaining about the timeout but Boeheim admitted afterwards that Pitt forced his team to alter the play called.

Pitt forced Ennis into a bad, long shot. Ennis made it. I think that’s all there is to the play. If Pitt leaves a TO on the table and Cuse scores, people would be up in arms for not being ready.

Check out this article on how CRAZY Clutch Ennis has been this year and it eases the pain of the loss a little … just a tiny bit. link to espn.go.com

Good news … Patterson and Zanna are healthy again – AMEN. I still believe these close games will help Pitt in the long run. I’m still a little shocked at how much the Durand injury has hurt the team. In retrospect, the way Dixon responded and what he said in the aftermath to the injury indicates that he knew that Pitt was going to have to gut it out.

UNC next. Bring it.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 02.13.14 @ 10:24 am

Saturday is going to be real tough.

Emotional letdown after last night, playing away, and UNC has won 5 or 6 in a row.

I haven’t seen them play much, so, I don’t know this or claim to know, but by record alone, it seems UNC now, is not the UNC at the beginning of the season when people were laughing at them.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 10:26 am

Does anyone know who the guy was to the left of Miss PA? The Panther (Roc) gave him a T-shirt and talked to him a little. I’ve seen him do that with recruits and Celebs?

Take a deep breath Frankcan, I don’t think it is normal protocol to introduce assistant coaches at BBall games, although it would be nice. Hopefully he is on the road, recruiting a big linebacker.

But probably getting his affairs in order for the move to the Burg.

Comment by gc 02.13.14 @ 10:47 am

They did introduce the Wrestling team last night, our first ACC champs. Nicely done.

Comment by gc 02.13.14 @ 10:48 am

I thought our kids were special last night and it was one of the most entertaining games I have ever attended. Talib has always been among my favorites and the “Kahuna from Kaduna” was certainly at his best last night. I was very concerned that the injuries were such that we might be up a creek without a paddle. I am excited that it looks like we have dodged that bullet. I was impressed that our freshman and Randall looked to inch forward last night. That was some of the best minutes I have seen Artis play this year and he appeared extremely engaged on the boards at times. If Young, Artis , and Randall can continue to improve we could be a real force on the boards by tourney time. Watching Robinson and Wright continue to show little ability to penetrate effectively has me thinking that JD might be wise to let Nuke have the car keys occasionally. He could give us another offensive tool that we sure need. Patterson has to grow some shoulders at crunch time. His defensive lapses were very costly last night. One can’t help but recall the missed fouls and no box out against Cincinnati and the missed fouls at Syracuse. He can play better than that and he needs to. Finally I left the game last night encouraged that we might be a very tough out come NCAA tournament time. We have the rest of the ACC season and the ACC tournament to develop and improve. I don’t think there is much pressure on us and I disagree with those posting here that the UNC game is vital. We aren’t going to get a 3 seed and beyond that it doesn’t make much difference in the NCAA’s. Jockeying within the conference is chump change and I think a realistic goal for this team is the Sweet 16 which is way beyond pre season hopes. Anything beyond that would be amazing. HTP

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 10:50 am

My two passions in sport are the Pitt Panthers and the Buffalo Bills. When Zanna shot the two foul shots at the end, I couldn’t watch…it was too much like Scott Norwood missing the field goal in the Super Bowl. When Zanna made both shots, I was about to open a 40 year old bottle of whiskey to celebrate with my brother because after all, how often does one’s alma mater beat the number one team in the country…and then Ennnis made that shot. This game was a tough, tough pill to swallow. Hopefully it doesn’t get the players or fan base too down, it just seems like this one is going to sting for a whlie and I hope the fellas have the fortitude to battle back against the Tar Heels.

Comment by AJ 02.13.14 @ 10:56 am

wbb, your last post sounds much more rational than an earlier one about continually losing close games. That one had me scratching my head since Pitt just had two consecutive overtime wins in their previous two games. Even though both wins came against inferior opposition, they pulled out wins nonetheless.

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.13.14 @ 8:56 am
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Dr Tom, I should have clarified BIG games. Like all the close games we lost to ranked teams this year, and losing to Butler and Nova in NCAAs.

Note that in every one of the games referenced above, Pitt had a lead late in the game but couldn’t maintain it.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 10:57 am

I don’t know why folks single out the last two minutes for offensive criticism. It was a complete game problem. I thought that was the worst Pitt has ever looked against the zone. They almost completely ignored getting the ball to the high post, even though they enjoyed success the few times they did get it in. It was as if they completely forgot all the lessons they’ve learned about facing that defense…….

On the other hand, it was an incredible defensive and rebounding effort. They really shut down Fair, Grant and Ennis, which is tough to do. (And anybody who’s complaining about the defense on Fair’s trey hasn’t watched him play for four years. That shot (a stationary three) is low percentage for him. He’d much rather drive left and take a mid-range jumper or get to the hole with his strong hand. He’d already thrown up an airball from three AND one that hit the board before it it the him in this game. And even if Patterson closed out hard, it’s not going to affect Fair, who’s taller and can jump to about Lamar’s shoulder.)

They bothered shots, they banged inside (nice job Randall/Artis), they hassled Ennis and Cooney, they played a super defensive game. As Boeheim said post-game, “it’s not what they do on O, it’s that we struggle to score against them.”

And they rebounded hard. Zanna was uncharacteristically tough and Artis was too and the guards helped out a ton.

It’s just that pathetic offense that frustrates. Cameron Wright contributes, but just shouldn’t be starting at SG at this level. He has to pass up so many opportunities because he has no range.

I just don’t get why the ball didn’t get to the middle more last night. Young hit that nice ten footer in the first half and we never saw that again. He or Artis could have beaten that zone from inside it.

Frustrating…..

Comment by hugh green 02.13.14 @ 10:59 am

wbb, it is all about making clutch shots, the others have, we have not.

Comment by gc 02.13.14 @ 11:00 am

or is it playing not to lose (a la Wanny). The offensive possessions in the final 2 minutes produced nothing … just like the last offensive possession when the shot clock expired (which is unforgiveable).

I have no issue with running the clock down but start to create a play with approx 10 seconds left instead of 5 or 6.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 11:04 am

fyi – I was referring to the Butler game when theshot clock expired

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 11:05 am

I agree, but you still have to make the shot.

Robinson made one last game, missed one last night.

Patterson missed one and we had a chance for a follow-up layup, couldn’t get it to go in.

We had more than our share of chances to finish them last night, could not get it done.

Comment by gc 02.13.14 @ 11:08 am

@Hugh Green, “Zanna was uncharacteristically tough” You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but Talib has played way better this year than you give him credit for. I haven’t forgotten your many warnings about the tough ACC frontlines taking advantage of him. Didn’t seem to be a problem last night when he had more offensive rebounds than the entire Syarcuse team.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 11:15 am

GC, I really like this Pitt team, but they get tight at the end of big games. Nobody other than Lamar Patterson is confident in taking the last shot. The Panthers execute well for most of the game and then tighten up at the end. Looking back at the Cincy, Virginia, the two Syracuse games, they couldn’t make field goals in the closing minutes.

Comment by Justinian 02.13.14 @ 11:18 am

Good morning fellow Pitt fans…

Pitt Dad – since you asked…about 5% of the time that shot is made. Every team has 2-3 plays they draw up and practice for game end situations. I have been beaten 2x by similar plays and won one game with it.

Note – every team has at least 2 plays to run with no TO and I saw Cuse setting up for a long pass downcourt.

Also note that I am sure Pitt has them also even though it was a lame effort vs UVA.

The key is that the guy who in bounds gets a return pass while in motion as he is difficult to guard. I do not remember now if Ennis in-bounded or not but he was in motion when he got the ball. In that situation, Syracuse could not have asked for a better look with 4.4 seconds left on the clock.
Each dribble equals 1 second and he took 3. That’s how you time it up and where ever he is at the end of 3 dribbles, he shots. Happened to be over the half court line.
Ennis a 5 star recruit, has been projected as a top 8 draft pick by the NBA if he goes pro this season. I can see why. He is a terrific pg with all the tools in his box.

What cost Pitt the game was their usual lack of looking for a shot until late in possessions. Prevent defense prevents….OK we all know!

Comment by Dan 72 02.13.14 @ 11:20 am

Independent of the result, the time out was the wrong decision.

Syracuse was out of time outs. Tyler Ennis was trying to get his team organized after Zanna made free throws. Syracuse had Fair, Cooney and Ennis all inside the three point area to receive the inbounds pass. Pitt had it covered perfectly. Young and Wright were doubling Ennis to prevent him from getting the inbounds. Patterson had perfect position on Fair and Robinson was matched up with Cooney. Had Dixon let the play go, Cooney would have come to get the ball on the baseline with Robinson in perfect position to guard him. Ennis was locked up. I like that situation a whole lot better than the situation Pitt had AFTER the time out.

All it did was give Syracuse a chance to get better organized.

Was that the only reason Pitt lost? of course not. Bigger culprits down the stretch:

1). Patterson not defending Fair (or Fair making big time plays, if you’re less Irish/ negative than I am). Pitt was up by 6 with under two minutes and Syracuse had the ball. Cuse set a double screen on the baseline for Fair. Patterson got bumped and stumbled a little off the screen. But instead of busting it to recover and get out on Fair, Patterson half assed it and left Fair wide open to knock down a clutch three. Even “Miss Positive”, Doris Burke, said Patterson had to a better job of closing out on the shooter. Next possession, Fair gets ball, makes a nice move and buries a pull up jumper over Patterson. Their go to guy made better plays down the stretch than did ours.

2) missed bunnies. Pitt missed a bunch of short (easy?) shots. The worst, with 20 seconds left, the shot clock winding down and Pitt UP by 1, Patterson drives, finds an open Wright on baseline for an easy 7 foot floater. That’s the kind of shot Wright has been making ALL YEAR! But instead of taking it, he gives the ball back to Patterson in the lane. OK, Cam probably should have taken the shot, but your go to guy also has a high percentage shot, I get it. But then Patterson short arms the five foot floater, front rim. Zanna is there for the put back and misses it with 17 seconds left. Three high percentage looks, no basket.

Had Pitt made one of those shots, they would have been up by three, Syracuse had no time outs and would have had to take/make a three against a set Pitt defense to send the game to OT.

Instead, Cooney grabs the rebound, hits Ennis sprinting up court while Pitt had four guys trapped in the paint. Ennis takes the ball right into robinson’s chest, going to the rim and gets the foul. Of course he makes both free throws. ‘Cuse up by one with 11 or 12 seconds left.

3) There’s an art and a science to winning close games. There is such a thing as a “clutch gene”. The great ones have the ability to focus and perform under pressure. The merely good ones do not. Our go to guy, does not posses that ability. Nor does our coach. Syracuse has those guys, Ennis and Fair. that’s why they are undefeated and we’re on the bubble.

Watch Dixon in stressful situations. He looks like his head is going to explode. His lips are white. He yells incoherent commands. Great coaches have a calming effect on their teams when needed. They get their teams to focus and perform. Dixon appears to be way too frantic, it has to rub off, and has to be a contributing factor in why Pitt has a tough time closing.

My opinion, Dixon panicked with 4.4 seconds left and called the TO when it wasn’t needed. Even his post game explanation didn’t make any sense.

Zanna showed some clutch gene by making those free throws, maybe that will be contagious.

Luckily, Pitt has NC this weekend. Dixon should be able to win that chess game. Deputy Dog is the most over rated game coach in history.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.13.14 @ 11:21 am

@hugh Green, Talib was the best player on the court against the #1 team in the nation. He sunk the clutch free throws that should have clinched the game. He led all scorers and rebounders while recording a double double. “Uncharacteristically tough” You have to be joking?

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 11:21 am

It looked like Cooney and Ennis packed the zone in more than they did the first game. No excuse, the still should have gotten the ball inside much often.

Doris Burke attended practice and said the they didn’t spend one minute working on their offense against the zone. The entire practice was spent working on defense. Explains a lot

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.13.14 @ 11:31 am

gc, our shots within the last 2 minutes were forced, very low percentage … while Fair had 2 wide open looks, and early in the shot clock.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 11:31 am

@Dan 72 – Ennis took the first inbounds pass inside the 3 pt arc about 9 feet from the baseline and 10 or so feet from the sideline. There were no other passes. He was picked up almost immediately and had two guys on him before he hit half court.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.13.14 @ 11:34 am

Boubacar, You post strikes me as Monday morning quarterbacking. If Dixon doesn’t call time and Syracuse hits a miracle shot that would be Dixon’s fault too I assume? I agree he gets all worked up and does seem pretty frantic at times. I’m a lot like that so maybe that is why I’m not as bothered by that as you appear to be. Zanna missed an in and out free throw to tie the Orange in the Garden last year at crunch time and a 12′ jumper this year the same way at Syracuse. He was due to catch a break.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 11:36 am

It is very clear that Pitt simply doesn’t adjust well to actual game situations. Why Patterson doesn’t flash more in the key against the vulnerable zone of the Cuse is beyond me. He can attack the zone from the key and that is a much better set than the soviet wing to wing passing that seems that Pitt defaults to,

Comment by chethejet 02.13.14 @ 11:42 am

Boubacar, After watching last nights game are you really trying to convince us that what Dixon did in practice led to our defeat. He took the less talented team and all but beat the #1 undefeated hall of fame coached team. Please JD isn’t perfect but it seems like you are really stretching to blame him for something that might have ben meant to be. That was some shot that Innis kid made to beat us don’t you think?

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 11:45 am

@chethejet, Your post is dead on correct and I thought Patterson was still showing the effect of the hand injury and it kept him from doing exactly as you suggested. I don’t know what his problem was on D though.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 11:48 am

From Matt Norlander at CBSSports.com

“Here’s something I found interesting: The two of these teams have combined for 227 total points this season. On Jan. 18 it was 113; tonight it was 114. And in those two games, Pitt led for approximately 44 of the 80 minutes between both games. Yet comes out 0-2.”

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.13.14 @ 11:56 am

Listening this morning, Patterson also had a bad ankle late in the game.

Boubacar – best post and most accurate on the blog. Stayed up late reading coaching manuals last night and yes, the TO, percentage wise was the wrong call by Jamie. It alone, however did not cost us the game.

It is no accident that Jamie loses these games over and over late.

Comment by Dan 72 02.13.14 @ 11:58 am

We have got to get better at games end. We need players who have ice in their veins. I think Durand has that maybe others but not there yet.

Comment by Frank 02.13.14 @ 12:00 pm

Robinson’s 3 point shot isn’t beautiful but when he is wide open I am fine with him shooting it. Wright is another matter though and he took a couple bad 3′s last night. Robinson needs to lean in and shoot in the paint. It seems like he is afraid of getting blocked. The solution is to draw the foul. I forget he is a sophomore sometimes. The team misses Duran Johnson. He wasn’t afraid to shoot and it took some of the pressure off the other guys.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 12:01 pm

@@@
question since I am not a BB guy…

How are we positioned for next year? Don’t we have a lot of young players and then inbound players?

outside of Patterson who do we lose who is critical?

Hey, seems we are much better off than what people thought heading into the season… is this a season to set up the next few years?

or was this our shot?

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.14 @ 12:13 pm

Dan 72, Your insinuation is that Dixon loses us games late if I understand you correctly. Does he get any credit for the 20 he has won this year? Is it possible that a team with 2 or 3 future NBA players and a hall of fame coach might be a little tough to beat. If Talib Zanna doesn’t sprain his ankle do you think we might have got past Virginia? When Patterson missed both free throws against Cincinnati and then didn’t bother to box out his man was it Dixon’s fault. JD isn’t perfect and I am sure that he makes mistakes but when you get kids to over achieve, and then they fall ever so slighty short of success I think you deserve a little more respect than what your post implies. I hope when we have a few of these type games fall our way like last Saturday you will give Jamie all the credit too.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 12:17 pm

I’m no fan of Doug Gottlieb but he has an article on CBS Sports that he has on Boeheim that makes sense. Basically, he claims that Boeheim strategies are basic and fundamental but nothing extravagant … what he does the best is exude confidence in his players, and especially the ‘go-to’ players like Ennis and Fair.

He also tweeted last night that the final timeout was an example of overcoaching and micro-management. WE here on this site have discussed Dixon’s penchant for taking young players out as soon as they make a mistake, and how passive his players act in critical times.

Jamie does many things correctly but exuding confidence to his players is not one of them.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 12:18 pm

FB tidbit … found this article on Troy Douglas leaving and coming to Pitt as DB coach.

You just gotta wonder that something more is going here… if not for this year then future years. Family aside a pure lateral move does not make sense.

An Pitt must have really, proactively, gone out and tracked this guy down…. great for us.

link to amestrib.com

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.14 @ 12:20 pm

@ wbb, excellent points.

I am firm Dixon supporter period.

yet clearly the timeout was just a mistake. Giving Boheim time to plan his last 4 seconds is just not good.

on the previous timeout we took that set up the go ahead basket it should have already been understood how to play the next inbound by cuse.

we had tactical advantage with the time out situation and gave it back to Syracuse.

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.14 @ 12:23 pm

Pittscript, Correct we are way better off than what we were expected going in. Zanna and Patterson are our only 2 seniors. You are correct that Patterson will be missed, but some would contend that Zanna will be harder to replace. Our projected squad appears to lack a quality post player. While we should be good at guard and forward.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 12:24 pm

@wbb, great point too about confidence. that is what it is all about. I was really struck at the time by the body language and facial gestures of Boeheim in those last time outs… he was just projecting positive energy and confidence to his players….

he is a great coach and we have a very good, ‘young’, coach too in Dixon

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.14 @ 12:26 pm

Jack, thanks for posting link, thankfully cloud mass allowed reception so I witnessed live a GREAT GAME. My fandemonium for Pitt basketball touches parts of 6 decades. If a championship happens in my lifetime I’ll rejoice; if not I will not have regrets. Not when we see efforts like last night. I once believed Dixon would get us to the final four and maybe beyond; I have no regrets, but so many pivotal games in the Dixon era end with frustration and disappointment. I do not want any other coach, I want a better Dixon. Been saying for years what Boubacar expressed. Anxiety works for Pitino and his enormous basketball IQ, I think it inhibits Dixon. Yeah, maybe maturity will change that.

Comment by Old School Panther 02.13.14 @ 12:26 pm

Pittscript, the critical position for next year is the 5 (center). We have two part time players, Randall and Uchebo and an incoming frosh 6’11 Doorsen who is very raw. They are after a 6’9 JUCO but so are afew others.

The rest of the team are pretty well-stocked:

Forwards: Young, Artis, Durand Johnson (provided he recovers well) Chris Jones return … 6’8 Jeter and 6’9 Luther are incoming. Jeter is a transfer and more polished and will play ASAP while Luther may be redshirted.

Guards: Wright, Robinson, Newkirk return and Jones can play the 4 (and probably Durand also.)

No new guards but talented ones will be coming in the following 2 years if they stay committed.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 12:27 pm

@spirit… thanks good insights.

This blog/community is getting me more into BB… I appreciate it.

… and wrestling and baseball!!

H2P

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.14 @ 12:28 pm

@wbb

Thank you! Great intel and details as always. I appreciate it.

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.14 @ 12:30 pm

There is no such thing as clutch. The clutch gene is just a bunch of psychobabble. Zanna made his free throws last night. But he also cost Pitt the Cincy game because he missed free throws. So is Zanna clutch or not? Dixon’s coaching didn’t prevent Zanna from making the free throws. By the way the free throws happened because Pitt ran a good play down 1 with barely any time left. How isn’t that good coaching? Ennis hit that shot because he was lucky. He misses that shot almost every time he takes it. Ennis has been hot at end of games this year but it will even out and he will miss shots at end of games.

The timeout would have been bad if Cuse got a good look after the timeout. Cuse didn’t get a good look. That was the point of the timeout to prevent a good look. Cuse was going to get a shot off no matter what.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.13.14 @ 12:32 pm

Pittscript, Your post sounds accurate on paper” giving Boeheim time” except that Dixon’s call took the Orange out of Boeheim’s plan and Innis took the ball and made it happen anyway. This kid is incredible. I heard one announcer say ,”when was the last time Pitt had a shooter like Inis?” There aren’t but maybe 5 that good anywhere. We are Pitt we get some good players and try to coach them up and sometimes they do amazing things. Don’t be fooled into thinking we can consistently beat the best of the best. Our team including our coaches played an amazing game last night and it took an incredible play by one of the best players you will ever see to beat us. No one is to blame.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 12:36 pm

We’ll play them 1 or 2 more times this year. See what happens then.

Comment by alcofan 02.13.14 @ 12:39 pm

As bummed out as I am, and believe me I am bummed out by last night’s loss, I still think this is a very good team. They need to learn how to finish these close games. The inability to score or hesitation to shoot at the end of games is letting teams back into the games. The misses a few chippies in the first Syracuse game when they had a 3 point lead, misses a wide open 3 and then failed to score of the rebound against Virginia, and then missed a several around the hoop last night. At home when you play as well as Pitt did last night, you expect to win.

Comment by Justinian 02.13.14 @ 12:39 pm

I’ll play.

Our coach cannot win clutch games.

Ok.

So, what do you call all the wins against Syracuse, UCONN, Villanova and Georgetown??

Actually until this year, owning Syracuse??

Duke at the Garden??

Washington when they were ranked #5,
Wisconsin #9, Ohio State in the top 20??

West Virginia rivalry games??

Pitt was 9-0 vs top 5 teams at the Pete until last night.

I’m sure Howland had a couple, but I’d guess Dixon had 6 or 7 of those games.

None of those games were clutch, but Virginia and Syracuse this year are somehow clutch, and he lost them, so he can’t coach in the clutch???

I’m confused.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 12:41 pm

@spirit

I hear you and also Wardapalooza…

definitely not ‘blaming’ for loss just think the T was a tactical mistake.

if nothing else the cuse kids got to settle down and think through think as opposed to ‘bang basket… now take the ball out under pressure… place going crazy…

it was it is… this is their year.

also, as we all know… come tourney time everything starts over. good run this year to watch.

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.14 @ 12:42 pm

Good summary Wardapalooza

Agree with everything you said. Only one addition. Great players are great because they make he most out of every opportunity and therefore it never evens out for them. It is the very reason they are great.

Great point that the TO worked because as you said… Cuse didn’t get a good look. They made a lucky play and there is not guard against pure luck.

On a positive note, Pitt had little chance to win the ACC so at least Cuse can win the regularly season out right . Time to MCL our wounds and get back on the horse. Our eye should be squarely on 1) finishing out the season strong including payback to UVA 2) winning the ACC tourney (another shot at 2 of 3 – Cuse, Duke, UVA) 3) Final Four (why not us?)

The money will eventually be off our back and no Berger time then this time of the year. Lady Luck must show up at some moment dressed in Pitt gear. I’ve met her a few time before and she is an equal opportunitist (not bad looking as well). Be patient grasshoppers…

H2P

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 02.13.14 @ 12:46 pm

Dan, you are correct, the rest of us are frustrated and emotional … yet there certainly is some constructive criticism here, and it’s not second-guessing as it’s been discussed before.

Except for maybe TonyinHouston and maybe a couple others, there is no one calling for Jamie’s head.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 12:49 pm

@Dan, When poop happens it is human nature to want to find someone responsible. Well poop happened last night. After our boys played their collective hearts out against the #1 team in the country. Their kid throws up a prayer and poop happened. The poop stunk so bad that many didn’t notice that our kids still aren’t completely healthy, but still appeared to be the better team. Many didn’t notice that our first year players might be starting to mature a little and might be improving in a very timely manner. The poop stunk so bad that some wanted to blame the coach that had less talent yet had the lead with 4 seconds to go. Time to flush and and get ready for the Tarheels.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 12:51 pm

I read NBA thinking of no more one and done. Not a worry for us as our kids go to class.

Comment by Frank 02.13.14 @ 12:53 pm

The PITT – Cuse game is being rerun on espnU at 1:00PM today. (About 5 minutes from now)

Comment by PITT-cocks fan 02.13.14 @ 12:54 pm

My guess is that Syracuse , Virginia and Cincinnati would not be too excited about getting to play us in the tournament. They are collectively the luckiest 3 teams to win 4 games against us in a single season in my memory. If there is such a thing as “hiddenvigorish” ala Bob Prince, then we have some coming.HTP

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 1:00 pm

@wbb, oh absolutely, that’s what we do on blogs.

I’ve been critical of Dixon at times, heck, I even said way above, I’m still questioning the time out, so I agree with a lot of people.

I question the “run it down to 10 seconds offense”, not just last nights game, the past 4 or 5 games. It had seemed like we were getting away from that type of offense, now it’s back. Injuries??

I just find it funny when people start questioning Dixon’s coaching (including myself), that we should remember, that he has won a lot of games, against good teams, in what was probably the toughest basketball conference ever.

I mean, if we’re to say, “Dixon lost us those games and he can’t coach”, then the reverse must be true when we win them, that “Dixon won us those games and he can coach”.

I know it’s frustrating, I felt like throwing up after last nights game.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 1:07 pm

@spirit, yes, human nature, I used the phrase myself in a post above.

I question the timeout. I admit it though, if he hadn’t called one, and they got a bunny or drove to the hoop and got fouled, I probably would have said to myself, ‘why didn’t he call a timeout and get organized?’.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 1:10 pm

Also, a lot is being made of the shot.

Let’s not debate about it. It was a desperation shot. 37′ is desperation. It went in. If he tries that shot 10 times, how many times is it going in, especially in games situations. ONCE.

It also was not a pure jump shot. He was leaning in.

He did have a clean look, but how tough can they guard him. You certainly can’t foul him.

Sometimes I over simplify things, and I will with this game.

We got beat by a buzzer beater. We’ve had our share of beating other teams with buzzer beaters.

If you watch college basketball, it happens.

The Virginia game, was a pure jump shot within that players game.

The two shots and situations don’t compare, other than they beat us.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 1:15 pm

***ha ha ha*** I just realized something too.

I have 93.7 The Fan on in the office and car all day.

Sometimes I am posting retorts back to callers or hosts on there!!

LOL

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 1:19 pm

Re: JD’s decision for a TO

Knowing the tumult of Pitt BB in the past 12 years at late game scenarios (UCONN in BET many times, Butler, Nova, Virginia/Cuse/Miami/VaTech this year etc.) ….do you really blame Jamie for stopping play to think about a defense?

Look… he wanted to orchestrate a low probability shot for Cuse and that happened. With his excruciating history, do you really fault him?

I don’t call it micromanaging. I call it history dictating preparedness.

Comment by PaulyP 02.13.14 @ 1:27 pm

I’m pretty sure the whole Dixon doesn”t play young guys is completely put to rest at this point. Wasn’t there talk of Dixon losing Artis. Artis played pretty decent down yesterday and got to play in the final minutes. I was impressed by his energy on the glass. I hadn’t seen that all year from him.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.13.14 @ 1:33 pm

Artis was in during much of crunch time last night. The game before, it was Newkirk. And Young had been in there mostly because of his foul shooting. Maybe it’s because there is nobody else to turn to … nonetheless, all have show potential but are inconsistent because that’s what 98% freshman are.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 1:42 pm

In summary, I don’t blame the timeout … if anything, it was the last 4 or 5 offensive possessions.

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 1:44 pm

Snowed in from work and I stumble across the replay on ESPNU. I’m now reliving this. What is wrong with me.

Comment by Chris 02.13.14 @ 1:54 pm

@Chris, Just turn the TV off after Zanna sinks the fouls and I think you will enjoy the game.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:04 pm

Guess what team didn’t recruit Tyler Ennis??? He is from NJ! Sean Recruited him all the way from AZ.

link to 247sports.com

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 2:07 pm

So what does it matter who recruited him. Pitt has recruited many stars that went elsewhere … BFD!!

I bet both Boeheim and Sean hasn’t recruited players that were great .. again BFD!!

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 2:11 pm

THEY DO NOT IDENTIFY TOP TALENT! That is why it matters. Why do we have to constantly coach em up???? B/C we never recruit legit studs. I blame that on Dixon. He is a good coach but recruiting is atrocious.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 2:16 pm

You think Boheim has to coach up Ennis? Heck no. Go out there boys and run our offense and just play and have fun. B/C our guys aren’t as good I think Dixon overcoaches.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 2:17 pm

Ennis is one and done and I am fine with not recruiting in that direction. I think one could argue that Steve Adams playing here hurt as much as it helped as an example. Ennis and Fair were probably the most talented players in the game last night but as I stated previously the best player on the floor was 5th year senior Talib Zanna. I bet Syracuse didn’t recruit him.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:18 pm

So if Pitt decides to target someone but he still goes elsewhere, then it’s OK?

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 2:28 pm

@ Upittbaseball, Let me get this straight we don’t identify top talent and hall of fame coach Boeheim only has to pat ‘em on the back and tell ‘em to have a good time. Maybe Boeheim had better try it JD’s way then because Dixon generally wins head to head, and last night the Orange were played pretty even by a much less talented team. We are not Kansas, this isn’t Duke and we aren’t going to be the next Kentucky. We get good kids and work hard to develop them and that isn’t going to change.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:30 pm

You think Jimmy Boeheim just let’s Ennis go out and play? Ha. Yeah, I’m sure Ennis wants to play at the slow pace Cuse plays at.

Pitt didn’t lose to the Cuse because a lack of talent.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.13.14 @ 2:35 pm

@Upittbaseball, Syracuse has traditionally attracted some of the top NBA guard talent. When teams recruit it costs money so they use their budgets in away that they hope will yield the best results. They end up doing things in ways that have worked before and they have confidence they can make work again. JD brought Slice back and we have already been fortunate enough to get some commitments from some very good looking prospects. Jamie is conservative though and our starters are a pretty good indication of what his recruiting philosophy is. Patterson and Zanna are 5th year players complete products of our system. Wright, Jones, Johnson and Robinson are developing products and the freshman are trying to catch on. That is how we do it here, it works well, and we are hoping that as time goes on we even get better at it.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:46 pm

@Upittbaseball, Why doesn’t Jimmy Bo recruit some kids who can rebound, or are we better at identifying that type of talent?

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.13.14 @ 2:50 pm

Ok guys…. I forgot we pay are ok with paying Dixon 2M a year to shit the bed in March.. Sorry. I will try to remember that he is coaching em up and we should be happy because we win 20+ games even though 14 of them are against nobodies.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 3:12 pm

Actually, then, Boeheim should be embarrassed to have beaten Pitt, by 5 points one game, and by
2 points the other???

Allthough, one would have to wonder, pryor to last night Pitt has been 13-5 against Boeheim the last 10 years.

6-1 against Boeheim the last 7 pryor to last night.

So, what would you have called that dominance over Syracuse these past years??

Did something suddenly change last night because of a long desperation shot??

I’m missing something here.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:18 pm

6-1 at The Pete.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:20 pm

Maybe we need alleged alums like you Upittbaseball that can pay off some of these star recruits’ ‘handlers’ so they will pay play for Pitt

Comment by wbb 02.13.14 @ 4:21 pm

A couple Sweet 16′s and an Elite 8 in his first 9 years coaching is shitting the bed??

Shit away Jamie, shit away!!!

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:22 pm

Hey, throw in last nights and this years games.

Pitt is 13-7 against Syracuse last 20.

Pitt is 6-2 against Syracuse last eight at Pete.

So, give me some analysis on that please.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:25 pm

Love Sean Miller.

He got bounced in the first round at Xavier, and

he just got bounced first round with Arizona in 2011-2012.

I’m not quite ready to put him in Adolph Rupp’s or Dean Smith’s categories.

Also, with Boeheim and Miller having this incredible talent, shouldn’t they be winning National Championship’s after National Championship?

I mean, they should be perennially in the Final Four.

They must be under-achieving coaches I guess?

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:30 pm

ha ha ha LMAO!!! My apologies, my apologies.

Miller didn’t get bounced in the first round of the NCAA tourney in 2011-2012………

He got bounced in the first round of the N.I.T. in 2011-2012!!!!

LOL Again, my sincerest apologies.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 4:34 pm

Dan – Joke all you want. My point is valid. Yes Dixon has had Boheim’s number. In the same breath Calhoun had Dixon’s number. The point is the program is stuck and if we just added talent to the mix instead of coaching them up guys we would be better off. Ennis may or may not go pro. Fair has been there 2-3 years and he is awesome. We need to recruit better and let the kids play.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 6:01 pm

After all of the analysis, debate, critical reviews and final thoughts on the subject, one constant remains,,,,,,

Tell me, anyone of you that read this post, who wouldn’t want to trade places with this kid named Ennis who just made some enduring Syracuse history last night??? Think he may be living large today back at campus?

I really don’t care what team you hold close to your soul, that buzzer beater is the essence of why most of us follow the drama of sports. Last night was classic, it just is too frickin bad that Pitt ended up on the short end of the equation this time.

But In every case, the sign off for me is always the same, because I loved the time spent at my alma mater back in the day, Hail To Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.13.14 @ 7:20 pm

None of my posts were joking at all, except that Arizona one, where I mistakenly said they lost in the first round of NCAA, when I looked again, I noticed it was the NIT.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 7:56 pm

No, you are incorrect!!!

Dixon v. Calhoun 7-7 how does Calhoun have Dixon’s number??

If you want to through in last year, Pitt beat UCONN with Ollie as coach,

so, Dixon is 8-7 all time vs. UCONN.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 7:57 pm

We win against nobody’s??

Could you please name me one NCAA team who doesn’t have 10 wins against nobody’s??

Arizona out of conference wins:

Cal Poly
Long Beach State
Fairleigh Dickinson
Rhode Island
Drexel
Texas Tech
Las Vegas
New Mexico State
Southern
Northern Arizona

They played Duke and Michigan. Great, it’s not like they don’t have their share of nobody’s, no???

I want a good home and home as much as anyone, but, come on, every team plays 10 rent a wins.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 8:04 pm

Also, I don’t think Boeheim or Calhoun won any National Championship till their 23rd or 24th year coaching.

Too tired to look it up, they’re both around there.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 8:06 pm

Final thought. Of course, I want better recruits, better outcomes in the tourney, but, there are some posts on here that make Pitt out to be some second hand rag, when in fact for the last 12 years they’ve been a consistent top 20 team. Many years top 10, and a couple years they were #1.

So, to make Pitt hoops out to be some sort of Idaho St. is ridiculous.

Are we Duke, Kentucky, Kansas or North Carolina, no, of course not, but out of 351 Div 1 teams, there are about 321 that would change places with us in a heartbeat.

Comment by Dan 02.13.14 @ 8:09 pm

Dan – yes we have been a great program but we cant be so satisfied we dont want to be like the UNC’s and UCLA’s and Michigan States and Dukes. Our success is nice but it has made us complacent in my opinion. You make some good points but until we go into a final four I am hesitant to beleive Dixon is as good as many. Goodnight. Baseball opens tomorrow.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.13.14 @ 11:22 pm

That’s very fair Upitt, I was thinking you thought the program was mediocre, and I feel it’s a pretty good program.

I’m not complacent, and I do my share of criticizing Dixon at times.

I want more, I just think Dixon is gonna be here awhile, and I’m hoping he grows and evolves.

By the way, I love Sean Miller, Pitt hero.

What Pitt fan doesn’t.

Comment by Dan 02.14.14 @ 10:22 am

I also learned from you. That you feel Pitt does have a great program, I will now look at your posts differently knowing where you are coming from.

FWIW, Dixon does have one of the top players coming in two years in Herron.

He was a top 15 type, but looking at rivals and scout, they say his stock is rising and will be one of the top 5 players in the country when he graduates.

Can we keep him signed, who know’s??

Comment by Dan 02.14.14 @ 10:32 am

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