Last year, there was a wide variance on Pitt’s recruiting class in terms of where it ranked against other programs. From 20 to greater than 40.
This year, the consensus is far less spread out. ESPN.com once more has Pitt outside their top-40 (and 9th overall in the ACC). Scout.com says #42. Rivals.com #43 and 247 at #44.
The loss of Wade Freebeck probably dropped Pitt anywhere from 1 to 3 spots in the rankings.
How does it compare in the ACC?
As already mentioned ESPN has Pitt 9th. As does Rivals.com. 247sports says 8th and Scout.com has Pitt 7th.
Aggregating them very carelessly, here’s the composite ACC rankings.
1. FSU (unanimous – 4)
2. Miami (unanimous – 8)
3. Clemson (13 pts)
4. tie VT (20 pts)
4. tie UNC (20 pts)
6. NC St. (24 pts, high #3, low #7)
7. UVa (26 pts, high #4, low #7)
8. Pitt (33 pts)
9. tie BC (39 pts, high #8, low #12)
9. tie Ville (39 pts, high #8, low #12)
11. Cuse (44 pts, high #10, low #13)
12. GT (46 pts, high #10, low #13)
13. Duke (51 pts, high #11, low #14)
14. WF (54 pts, high #13, low 14)
Yes, I know Coach Chryst is big on development. On finding the diamonds-in-the rough. I know the rationalizations when the numbers in the rankings are low are to be more dismissive of them. To point out the misses. That’s fine. I get it.
I’m not angerly disappointed. It’s just find myself unable to shake the feeling that the recruiting should be a little better than where it is.
P.S.
Im in BIG 10 land so Whisky talk and games on this stupid regional network are regular.
How about Scott Tolzien. Two star recruit.
Not heisman trophy numbers, but this is pretty good production from a two star guy. Especially in 2010.
2009 Wisconsin 328 211 64% 2,705 16 11
2010 Wisconsin 266 194 73% 2,459 16 6
Wiscy and Pitt are vastly different schools in different conferences. And maybe if Wiscy had better recruits they might have made the Rose Bowl more often.
Citrus bowl in 2009, finished at #16.
I’d take either of those finishes.
yea I know…and I’m on the first trip to Mars !
Wisky is a running attack school..always has been since 1990.
Other than R. Wilson who ‘fell into their laps’ after Tom O’Brien told Wilson he didn’t want him back for a 5th season, they produced NO Qb’s of note. Unless you want to say Brooks Bollinger.
But I did say…..’of note’.
Or maybe they would have won the games. 0-3
Not much history prior to Barry A.
And to think he wanted the Pitt job in 1990 and we gave it to Paul Hackett.
That was a brilliant move !
i would think 6 and 6 would be and 7 and 5 every year would be .
but i think 8 or 9 wins a year with a 10 win season every 4 years would suit me just fine.
not that i would not like to win them all i would
but if you give me 8 or 9 wins every year i am fine with that and would not bitch.
“On defense there’s some good developmental prospects but not one- not one- is an elite prospect. That’s twelve recruits, on a defense that’s easy for any top prospect to get immediate playing time, and not one is a big time prospect. That doesn’t mean that I don’t like some of these defensive players. Connor Dintino is intriguing. The linebackers may turn out to be good, and the secondary has a lot of potential. But when you have twelve prospects and all twelve are developmental guys, then you need to recruit better. The truth is, I’m not sure if any of these players on defense can be in the two deep this season.
But the most troubling thing is that the staff clearly looks for developmental prospects almost exclusively.”
Perhaps because the defensive staff is in a developmental stage itself.
You recruit ppl like yourself. We don’t have any stud coaches on defense so therefore we don’t get any stud players on defense.
8 in the regular season !
Don’t let them kill your new found Pitt enthusiasm Upitt, I haven’t bought my plane ticket yet but I’m looking forward to hitting “Twin Peaks” with you during the Final Four Weekend!
Winning solves many ills. Eight wins minimum, this year!
Mars was only a short trip up Route 8 from me in North Park to RT. 228 or if you knew the back way thru the old Treesdale Apple Orchard Farm it was quicker than that. (which is now an Arnold Palmer Golf Course CC.)
Beautiful ride it was, I miss it, since it’s so flat down here. Also miss all the golf courses that were in that area of Pgh. to Butler.
and the sooner we get chugging the better.
Best Penn State guy we know. Give him a raise and a shiny new office.
History does repeat itself….especially in Oakland.
Comment by spiritofsection22 02.05.14 @ 5:17 pm
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Spirit…actually life for Pitt FB didn’t go on after Sherill left. The fact is that Pitt FB went into the dumper for 30+ years and counting.
Pitt can ill afford to lose Engram…
they will behind his back think Engram told us this or that.
it wont work to plug in just any one he must have played or we will be screwed.
Next year, Pitt should be in the 35-45 rankings with an 8-4/8-5 final record. With stability in the coaching staff, it should lead to a recruiting class in the top 25-35, again an improvement.
A bigger problem is not extending the coach. This will be used against Pitt, especially by the school to the east. Their coach will have 5 or 6 years left on a contract and he will guarantee a kids parents that contractually, he will take care of their son during his entire collegiate experience. Pitt will not be able to say that to a parent. This is another example of why Steve Pederson must go. He doesn’t get it. It is important. If you believe in what the coach is doing, extend him. If you don’t, let the contract run out. Apparently, Pederson is not a believer yet he continues to smile through it. The smiling assassin strikes again!
Extend Chryst? Hahahaha.
@Ward – you laugh at the extend Chryst hypothesis. Assuming by that response, that you disagree. Given Pitt’s Administrative non-support, starting with the AD, what would you propose? Another coaching carousel? Watch what you ask for, you might get a wifebeater and a one year wonder yet again. Pitt has to extend the guy if you are committed to what he is doing. If he goes 9-3 next year, he will have suitors and you can kiss him goodbye. He goes 8-4 and you do what? Extend or let him wait. If you wait, he is as good as gone and the negative recruiting about him not being around fills the ears of parents. Kind of like Engram. Had Pitt upped him when they realized he could recruit, we probably aren’t in this position if in fact he is gone.
