January 25, 2014

6pm on ESPN2.

Tonight is a father-daughter night for me. It’s a “Cinderella Ball” that my daughter’s school has, so I have to set the DVR and hope the Western Ky-Louisiana-Lafayette game doesn’t cut too far into the start of the game. It’s probably wrong that that there’s a small part of me hoping that snow we’ve been getting today in the Cleveland area cancels the event. Especially since in another year or two it will be about some boy trying to take her to a dance.

Pitt is only a 4-point favorite in this game. CBS Sportsline in their picks, says Pitt is an 8-point favorite, so the majority are picking Maryland to cover but all are going with Pitt to win based on that.

I think this will be a desperate Maryland team. They have NCAA hopes, that are fading fast as they sit at 8th in the ACC. They lack any quality wins. It’s a home game. Over half their remaining games are against teams higher than they are in the ACC standings.

Charles Barkley says to kill the daughter’s first boyfriend just to set a precedent

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 3:03 pm

more accurately, copied from

I like former NBA great Charles Barkley’s response when asked what he was going to do when his daughter started dating, and that first young man came to the door.
“Well,” said Sir Charles, “I think I’m going to kill the first one…and then hope word get’s out.”

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 3:10 pm

@ Chas, Pitt will still be playing hoops someday when she doesn’t have any time for Dad. Enjoy her now while you can.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.25.14 @ 3:10 pm

The line is sliding toward 3.5 at this time. I think this is the easiest cover all year. I think the line ought to be twice that.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.25.14 @ 3:15 pm

sos22, hope you’re right but betters will tell you that more often than not, the best bet is the slight home underdog (in any sport)

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 3:30 pm

I was a bit nervous. Maryland had a couple stiffs jackin’ up three’s last game, and a couple of the talking heads said, “they usually make those”.

So, I could see them fillin’ it up this time and me getting ticked.

However, I think Pitt has improved each and every game since that first Maryland game. I would look for an even or so game, back and forth, with Pitt starting to take over with 10:00 or 15:00 minutes to go in the 2nd half.

I’m sorry seeing Maryland go, just because of the proximity. I can’t speak for Maryland, but for the 4 alumni that are friends and family, they are all against it.


Money talks of course, but they’ve been mad at the university and ath. dept. for some time now, for mis-management of funds.

Was really going to be one of the highlights for me.

Oh well, must move on. Brind on the Cardinals!!

Comment by Dan 01.25.14 @ 3:37 pm

FYI – Senior Bowl in 15 minutes on NFL Network

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 3:45 pm

@wbb, My feeling is more off of disrespect for the Terps than any handicapping expertise. They were picked preseason 7 with about the same number of coaching votes as us. We are playing on a whole different level than them. Sure it is hard to win on the road but a leopard can’t change it’s spots and the Terps are likely to implode at some point. It is their pattern. Pitt on the other hand looks extremely steady. It’s what we do. At this point in the season what you see is what you are likely to get. They lead NC St last week into the 2nd half then fell apart and lost by 10. We fell behind NC St. by 17 then outplayed them for the next 35 minutes to win by a dozen. That is typical of the difference in the 2 teams. Maryland will figure out a way to lose. History says if it’s by less than 4 it’s an exception.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.25.14 @ 3:49 pm

From SB Nation’s Players to Watch at the Senior Bowl:

OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor–6’5, 335 pounds

It was a week to forget for Richardson, who was manhandled by Aaron Donald in one-on-one drills. The mammoth guard fared better in run blocking thanks to his mauling skills, but he struggled with his technique and balance. He’ll have to show more if he wants to remain a first-round prospect.

DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh–6’0, 285 pounds

Donald was the talk of Mobile after dominating Cyril Richardson in drills. His size, or lack thereof, is a legitimate concern, but scouts have been so impressed with his game tape it may not matter on draft day. He’s been too productive to dismiss outright.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 3:50 pm

And from Matt Miller’s 5 Up 5 Down:

4. DT Aaron Donald, Pitt

I’ve spent time writing about Aaron Donald in this space before. He’s lightning-fast, instinctive and productive. Michael Felder even made him his No. 1-ranked player in our CFB 250 series.

Donald’s only real knock is his height, but during the week of practices against the best senior offensive linemen in the nation, he excelled at every stop. Donald used his lower center of gravity to fire off the ball and make himself a tiny target for the hands of interior blockers. And with his outstanding first-step quickness added on to his small target area, he was able to consistently get into the backfield and make plays.

The Senior Bowl is great at allowing evaluators to compare players side-by-side, and seeing Donald work the top linemen in the nation has him moving up my board.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 3:52 pm

Ah, Daddy Daughter Date Night. About 4 years prior to when your daughter refused to be seen with you in public.

Comment by steve1 01.25.14 @ 3:52 pm

For you guys waiting for the game to start and don’t have the NFL Network, here’s the game link:

link to

Might as well watch the fist half and see some of AD…

Comment by Jackagain 01.25.14 @ 4:08 pm

looks like Donald is getting double-teamed on drop back passes … wasn’t expecting that in an all-star game

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 4:57 pm

Watching Sid the Science Kid with my 3 1/2 year old granddaughter (baby sitting). She said she’d watch Pitt game but not Senior Bowl. How is AD doing?

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 5:01 pm

I’m pretty sure her first complete sentence was “Let’s Go Pitt”!

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 5:01 pm

I am slightly concerned about this game. As
Long as the guys don’t try to press to hard for friends and family, I think we will grind it out.

Comment by Pauly P 01.25.14 @ 5:04 pm

Donald is not playing ever series but when he is in, they seem to be double coevring him on passes. Haven’t seen him make a tackle yet.

I take that back … he just almost sacked the QB, and chase dhim out of the pocket for a short loss

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 5:14 pm

Looks like the current game on ESPN2 will be long.

Comment by gdodson 01.25.14 @ 5:36 pm

Hopefully espn will put it on another station. Wku game may go to 6:30

Comment by Dan 72 01.25.14 @ 5:48 pm

On ESPN News until the other game ends. Not a good start.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 6:14 pm on ESPN2.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 6:19 pm

Terrible call. That was up & down

Comment by Nick 01.25.14 @ 6:28 pm

lets hope the easy buckets don’t hurt at the end.

Comment by goalie44 01.25.14 @ 6:29 pm

they look a little sloppy.

Comment by goalie44 01.25.14 @ 6:37 pm

Gotta clean up the defensive glass. Too many 2nd & 3rd opportunities for Md.

Comment by Nick 01.25.14 @ 6:37 pm

Pitt sloppy. Jamie will talk to the team at the half.

Comment by MariettaMike 01.25.14 @ 6:38 pm

Starting to heat up now. Keep the pressure on.

Comment by Nick 01.25.14 @ 6:52 pm

We need a 2 guard! Cameron Wright just makes too many bad passes. Just as I type that, we go on a mini-run. This is a very resilient Pitt team. After shooting terribally in the early part of they play tough defence and grind-out points.

Comment by Justinian 01.25.14 @ 6:53 pm

Refs playing a significant role. Not pretty but hitting FTs and still up. If Pitts settles down, this wont be close. Not at all impressed with Maryland, again.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.25.14 @ 6:53 pm

Just lazy passing..almost asking to get punched in the mouth.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 7:01 pm

5 point lead on the road. Dixon will be a fuming a bit, I think. This should be double digits. I can’t even enjoy my dang cheesecake. C’mon Pitt!

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 7:05 pm

Pitt is playing down to their competition. Jamie should be able to straighten this out.

Comment by MariettaMike 01.25.14 @ 7:06 pm

I think Swofford has the refs sending Maryland out the ACC no mercy

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 7:07 pm

The Panthers need play solid ball in the 2nd half. Too many mistakes in the 1st half.

Comment by Justinian 01.25.14 @ 7:07 pm

Wright telegraphing passes two TO’s. Pitt is the better team, now win the damn game.

The floor sounds hollow, anyone agree?

Comment by Old School Panther 01.25.14 @ 7:08 pm

Cam Wright 3 TOs, struggling. Artis starting to fill more of a DJ role, nice half. Pitt 16-17 in FTs. Never thought I’d type that!

Pitt definitely playing their ‘C’ game tonite, a bit out of sync, hope its enough.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.25.14 @ 7:08 pm

A lot of Maryland fans here, who would of thunk???

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.25.14 @ 7:10 pm

Was worried a little when it was 9-2……then realized it was Maryland.

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 7:14 pm

I’m not interested in watching Mich/Mich State ESPN, when this game ends, you get turned off.

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 7:17 pm

Artis looks good offensively. Looking for his shot. Thank god for free throws!

Comment by Boubacar Aw 01.25.14 @ 7:22 pm

Agree Emel. Turning over to Pens-Stars when this one is over.

Comment by Nick 01.25.14 @ 7:24 pm

lol layman…D1 ?

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 7:30 pm

after that, you can turn on the 80 degree hockey game

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 7:33 pm

Pitt’s defense is very aCC like …..

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 7:37 pm

Looking a little sharper in the 2nd half

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.25.14 @ 7:39 pm

You Pitt guys at the game…make some noise, so we know you’re there ! lol

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 7:43 pm

I like how the Maryland players get taken to the woodshed 3:45 out of every 4:00 and act like they are dominating when they make one good play.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.25.14 @ 7:55 pm

Patterson will get 30 tonight.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.25.14 @ 7:58 pm

wtf..flagrant foul…he was coming down from trying to get the rebound

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 8:00 pm

Definitely a foul. Definitely not a flagrant.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.25.14 @ 8:02 pm

Patterson is for real.

Our passing tonight has been unreal. Bad unreal-nightmarish.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 8:03 pm

lazy pass or the Pitt guys not coming to the ball

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 8:03 pm

Patterson with 26 and 0-3 from the 3.

Comment by Jackagain 01.25.14 @ 8:05 pm

that’s Robinson’s 4th

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 8:05 pm

I think a bit of both WBB. Lamar was already on to the next pass.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.25.14 @ 8:06 pm

The Panthers look tired. They need to gut this game out and somehow keep Robinson in the gamen.

Comment by Justinian 01.25.14 @ 8:07 pm

Just close this out. Please! These guys are chumps and not even top half of the ACC.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 8:13 pm

How is Newkirk so bad at foul shooting?

Comment by Marco 01.25.14 @ 8:17 pm

Marco-He is so bad that Dixon just told him to throw it up.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 8:18 pm

wtf is Pitt doing…this game should be long over !

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 8:19 pm

If it was anybody other than the Twerps we would have been in trouble

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 8:22 pm

Even though he missed that last FT, I’ll take Cam Wright at the line or for the game winning shot over anyone else on the team.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.25.14 @ 8:23 pm

missed FTs and TOs down the stretch – not good for my disposition

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 8:23 pm

and we land right at the game point spread, lol

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 8:23 pm

Err last three.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.25.14 @ 8:26 pm

And Vegas is right again

Comment by Iron Duke 01.25.14 @ 8:26 pm

A very nice win. Hail to Pitt!

Comment by MariettaMike 01.25.14 @ 8:26 pm

Cam didn’t help the Pitt money much with those last 2 shots…glad I don’t gamble.

Comment by Jackagain 01.25.14 @ 8:26 pm

18-2, 6-1 in the ACC. Only losses have been to former Big East foes in close games. Not a bad start for us. We clearly still have a ways to go but a fun team to watch.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 8:26 pm

77 free throws = unwatchable basketball

Comment by Iron Duke 01.25.14 @ 8:27 pm

sos22 hit the nail right on the head. These mid level ACC teams are not as good as mid level BE teams. Last year, we definitely get beat

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 8:27 pm

The Over was the place to be…and the place for me !

Dinner on my Bookie !

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 8:28 pm

We made that look hard!

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.25.14 @ 8:28 pm

This game was called badly both ways – missed calls, phantom calls – that’s why there were so many FTs.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 8:29 pm

A very ugly win but road wins are always welcome, ugly or not.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 8:30 pm

Pitt’s gonna have to start making FT’s late in the game or all these road games will end like this.

Lots of fouls, FT’s and takes something away from another great Panther win.

And enough already with the sneakers with suits look. Please !!!

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 8:32 pm

I agree with some of you guys. Mid level Big East teams would have beaten us. A team like Providence, which is mediocre to alright, would have probably beaten us by 10.

Comment by Panthoor 01.25.14 @ 8:33 pm

Pitt again as trouble finishing a close game. No excuse for 11 missed Fts in the last 15 attempts in a grossly over officiated game.

The only way to learn how to finish is to keep playing these games.

Again, we look at times like we have never seen a press. I realize Robinson was not in there but I hate JD’s inbounds to the short corner where there is always a double team waiting.

Still a win and there are NO BAD WINS but boy this one was sloppy. We shall have no such luxury on Monday.


The press Duke will put on us Monday will be a lot tougher than we saw tonight.

Comment by Dan 72 01.25.14 @ 8:34 pm

Emel: I vote flip flops with suits. Coordinated flops of course.

Comment by MariettaMike 01.25.14 @ 8:35 pm

We want Duke!

Comment by gc 01.25.14 @ 8:36 pm

Don’t want to finish any more games without Robinson, whew!

Comment by gc 01.25.14 @ 8:37 pm

This game was a good warm up for Monday. Pitt will be much sharper at the Pete. Bring on the Dukeoids.

Hail to Pitt. .

Comment by MariettaMike 01.25.14 @ 8:38 pm

Jamie Dixon really has to consider putting Young and Artis on the floor at the end of games. Talib Zanna’s FT shooting is going to kill them in one of these games and those guys are better ballhandlers.

Cam Wright’s shooting from the floor and line appears to be regressing. 4-9 from the line tonight. I like Cam, but this was definitely not one of his better games.

For those of you that think Josh Newkirk should play ahead of JR, think again. 1-10 from the line for the season. He didn’t appear the least bit confident on those attempts tonight. He looked confused under MD’s pressure. I think he’ll be a good player but there is no way he’s supplanting JR.

Lamar Patterson=best Pitt player of the Dixon era (yeah I said it)
28 pts, 7 boards, 7 assists, 3 steals tonight

Comment by Barvo 01.25.14 @ 8:39 pm

The refs kept this game close — way to many chippy fouls. Pitt does need to focus on their FT’s late in the game though.

Comment by MariettaMike 01.25.14 @ 8:46 pm

Artis with a strong game. Looks to be the new 6th man. Jones decent as well. Newkirk not ready for the road yet, looks better at home.

Patterson and Zanna, what a winning combination.

Comment by gc 01.25.14 @ 8:51 pm

Talib was 8 of 14 from the line. Cam Wright was 4 of 9. 3 of Cam’s misses came at the very end of the game to close it out.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 8:53 pm

Pens look flat tonight…

Comment by Jackagain 01.25.14 @ 8:53 pm

In the last 60 seconds, Wright was 2 of 6 from the line. In the last 68 seconds, Zanna was 2 of 4.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 8:54 pm

You guys are absurd and need to switch over to a reality show or situational comedy.

We beat all the mid-level Big East teams last year. We were 12-6 in the conference and only lost to the ranked teams. Your logic says to me that last year’s team is better than this year’s team. Huh? Those same mid-level BE teams would get beat by us, just like the mid-level ACC teams are getting beat.

Providence has lost to Maryland this year and lost to Penn State and BC last year.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.25.14 @ 8:55 pm

link to

Comment by Jackagain 01.25.14 @ 8:58 pm

From ESPN commentary:

Leopoldo Alamillo Medina · Top Commenter
I got the rent money on pitt -4.5

He must wan to kill Cam about now then…LOL

Comment by Jackagain 01.25.14 @ 9:02 pm

Lamar Patterson=best Pitt player of the Dixon era (yeah I said it)
28 pts, 7 boards, 7 assists, 3 steals tonight

Comment by Barvo 01.25.14 @ 8:39 pm

Agree Barvo, with one caveat, Sam Young had an incredible 2009 NCAA tourney. Lamar will have to at least duplicate that, for me to say best ever in Dixon era.

And I think most of us are past the Newkirk instead of JR matter after JR scored 16 points in the GA Tech game. JR’s offense was almost non-existent in conf play last year, this year, a totally opposite story. Double figures in 2 of the last 4 games and 9 in a third.

Don’t know if his game is any better or just the ACC defenses are just worse, but who cares.
At least in the Big Dance.

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 9:06 pm

There is NO WAY I would take Young out for a moment at the end of games. You absolutely need you best foul shooters on the floor at the end of games. Cam Wright was 2 for 6 at the end Josh Newkirk 0 for 2 and was Zanna 0 for 4 in the last two minutes? With Robinson on the bench at the end, it was a nail biter.

Comment by Justinian 01.25.14 @ 9:12 pm

The absence of an outside shooter other than LP will ultimately be Pitt’s downfall. Doesn’t matter in games like this, but will on the road or in the tourney against better defensive teams. DJ could have been that guy.

Watching Michigan and Sparty, two very good teams even though both dealing with injuries. Have to think the Big 10 the best conference again this year.

Watched WVU and Ok St. today also (not much else to do in this weather); was not impressed with Ok St., very athletic but very undisciplined.

Arizona is still the best team I’ve seen, but have to wonder if they will be tested enough in conference. Syracuse is probably not the second best team in the country. Even with 4 losses, that is probably Kansas.

Love how ESPN is hyper-promoting Duke v. Cuse next Saturday and basically ignoring Pitt v. Duke. I hate ESPN.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.25.14 @ 9:13 pm

At the end of games, you don’t want Z & W or Nuke handling the ball much.

They have Patterson, as the passer on the inbounds, which can eliminate him from getting the ball.

I would think you would want Patterson, Robinson & Young on the floor handling the ball and thereby being fouled. So tonite without JR, Patterson & Young should have handled the ball.

Need someone else being the ‘inbounds’ passer in that situation other than Lamar. Like Wright.

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 9:14 pm

@ Iron Duke

Yep, anything to ‘slight’ Pitt. They even don’t promote a game to do it(one of their own games). Truly amazing.

The two dweebs who did Pitt/MD waited until about 6 minutes left in the game before slightly talking up Pitt/Duke. In between their constant banter about all things…….Twerps. An 11-9, sub .500 in conf. team ! Sheesh, what a crock !

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 9:18 pm

the conversation was Newkirk could spark a stagnant offense, however, it was also clearly stated that you wanted JR on the court to protect the lead. The main reason JR’s assist to TO ratio is so good is that he never takes chances, this is usually good when you protect a lead, especially when you can shoot fouls like he can.

Ideally, JR, Lamar, Young, Artis and Jones on the court when the other teams needs to foul … from solely a FT perspective

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 9:20 pm

CNorwood, we lost to a poor Rutgers team last year as well as to a Cincy team.

On most nights we would easily handle a middle of the road BE team, tonight was not one of those nights. This team lacked focus for much of the game, and couldn’t put MD away even though it had many chances due to careless play

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 9:25 pm

Pitt ended up 32 of 47 from the FT line. 68%

After starting 16 for 16. We were 16 of 31 which is terrible.

Hope they got all those misses our of their system for the Dookies !

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 9:29 pm

With the game at Pitt, and the crowd tonight at Maryland, heard some people yelling at Dixon from the crowd, some chippiness during the game…..

no one could tell me differntly, that Pitt vs Maryland wouldn’t have turned into a real nice rivalry game.

Damn shame.

Comment by Dan 01.25.14 @ 9:29 pm

@Justinian – Zanna was 2/4 from the line in the last 68 seconds.

@Emel – all Dickie V could talk about during the Michigan/Michigan State game was Syracuse/Duke next Saturday – “most anticipated game of the ACC season”

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 9:31 pm

wbb, that’s how I remember it as well. Hard to pick someone to foul in that five.

Hard to figure Newkirk’s lack of foul shooting prowess. maybe JR and Young can give him some lessons.

Comment by gc 01.25.14 @ 9:33 pm

Allen owned JR tonight and JR could not stop him all night. This will continue to happen with quick PGs. My disappointment with Nuke is beyond irritation. The guy is a lifetime 75 percent (HS) ft shooter and bricks 2 tonight.

I have been calling for him to play the 2 ahead of Jones but the coaches see him every day in practice. There are no calls for him to replace JR.

Again the only way to learn is to experience live game situations. Big lessons tonight

Comment by Dan 72 01.25.14 @ 9:38 pm

@ Pitt Dad…..glad I missed that. Maybe shoot off the clown an email or two dozen, hey what about Pitt/Duke before then.

Also for the old ACC folks, Cusey/Duke doesn’t supplant Duke/UNC in year 1. Sorry Dickie V.

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 9:39 pm

I’m not sure it was just him. It was accompanied by an ESPN promo almost every time.

They are barely pumping the game Monday. They don’t mind if the Cuse beats Duke – two hall of fame coaches and all – but the mouse networks really don’t want us to knock off the Dukies.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 9:42 pm

I’ve written this before. Back when Levance beat Duke at MSG at the buzzer, Dickie V was out of comission for the first half of that BB season due to a throat condition … and didn’t do any live spots until mid January.

When he came back, he was being interviewed on ESPN, and gave a recap of what he missed. When he talked about the Pitt-Duke game, he said something like “What a shame! Duke had a 15 point first half lead but lost it down the stretch”

Dickie v, just what was the fucking shame hear?

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 9:48 pm

Newkirk’s line:

9 min, 0/2 shooting, 0/2 FTs, 1 Rebound, 1 Steal, 1 Foul

Kid needs to work harder in practice I guess.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 9:49 pm


Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 9:49 pm

Artis is coming along:

16 min, 2/5 FG, 4/4 FTs, 6 Reb (2 OR), 1 To, 1 PF

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 9:51 pm

Someone tell that senile clown Dickie V that the most anticipated ACC game of the year is on Feb. 12th at the Pete.

Comment by Jackagain 01.25.14 @ 9:53 pm

Pitt dad, he doesn’t play enough to get into rhythm plus he know who the go-to guys are … this is kind of like Young … it seems like everytime he takes an outside shot, even when he’s open, he gets told about it by Dixon or JR.

I hope these guys are patient — they will be key players in the next few years. Remember the graphic they showed tonight, Patterosn averaged 2.8 pts in his first year with a bad shooting percentage

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 9:54 pm

@wbb – I agree totally. The kid has talent. My point is I don’t want him to get discouraged either. Working hard in practice is the best way to impress his coach.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 9:55 pm

That’s strange about Nuke. He should be thriving against these less than ‘stellar’ ACC defenses.

Pitt again scored more than their season average ppg of 75.3 (in conf.) games.

The Dookies have inched up behind us at #2 at 74.9 ppg.

I loved it at the beginning of the game when the dimwit announcer suggested Pitt couldn’t play fast. With the stats right there in front of his face. These guys have their ‘talking points’ and damn it, facts, stats or seeing it with their own eyes won’t budge them off their talking points.

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 9:56 pm

Nice quote from Turgeon(only fair after I brought up his radio show slights of Pitt on prior threads here) – “I’ve been doing this a long time. I’ve been an assistant coach and a head coach for about 26 years, and I’m telling you, that’s one of the best teams I’ve ever coached against,” Turgeon said. “How they’re ranked 20th at 18-2 is an absolute joke. I think they’re a Top 5 team in this country, to come into this building and really control the game.”

Comment by TVax 01.25.14 @ 10:07 pm

Just got back from the game. Lots of Pitt fans there! Maryland fans were very nice (although very disappointed with the Turgeon era). Did any of the Pitt cheers come through on the broadcast?

Comment by CalvinHobbes 01.25.14 @ 10:09 pm

Not really Calvin. ESPN really had the ‘mic’s’ jacked up in the first couple rows of their student section.

On purpose ? (you know who would root for Pitt, outside of ppl in Pittsburgh)

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 10:14 pm

Although I’m thinking I did hear at “Let’s go Pitt” cheer late in the game, and the MD fans immediately started to cheer so you wouldn’t notice it.

Another reason why a blowout would have been nice, they would have left, and we could have heard your cheers a lot better !

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 10:16 pm

Maryland crowd started leaving at about 7 minutes left in the game and missed the weak Pitt finish. Nice to hear a little “Let’s go Pitt” by the 5% Pitt crowd.

Pitt looked in control and maybe even like a top 5 team from ten minutes in to about 7 min to go. Foul shooting obviously needs to be better in tight games. I agree with someone above who said Artis in and Newkirk out at game’s end whenever possible.

Seemed to be a bit of chippy play with JR going on at times. During one post foul huddle by UMd, JR was standing in their 5 man foul line huddle and got a little shoving going.

Comment by TVax 01.25.14 @ 10:16 pm

Interesting fact: Shelden Jeter 6’8 Forward who will be joining Pitt next year has a younger brother Donovan who is a freshman at Beaver Falls, who had 31 pts and 14 reb last night.

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 10:24 pm

Sheldon Jeter ?@LongLive_Jete21 23h
Yo my little brother @KingJeter34 has been hooping lately, he had 31pts and 11 rebounds tonight! 7 straight double doubles!!

Tweet from Sheldon last night

Tweet fromSheldon:

Comment by wbb 01.25.14 @ 10:30 pm

Patterson led in every category tonight – points, assists, steals and rebounds.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 10:30 pm

Mark Turgeon made some nice remarks about Pitt after the game.

”I’ve been doing this a long time. I’ve been an assistant coach and a head coach for about 26 years, and I’m telling you, that’s one of the best teams I’ve ever coached against,” Turgeon said. ”How they’re ranked 20th at 18-2 is an absolute joke. I think they’re a Top 5 team in this country, to come into this building and really control the game.”

Comment by Justinian 01.25.14 @ 10:57 pm

MD did not give up and Pitt slipped at end but we got the win. Now we need to win the next two games and get Cuse. It we do that title is ours to lose.

Comment by Frank 01.25.14 @ 10:59 pm

@Justinian – How about a little credit for my post at 10:07 by Turgeon.

Comment by TVax 01.25.14 @ 11:03 pm

Good get. It was on ESPN and CBSsports webs. No mention by the big announcers or media as usual.

Comment by Frank 01.25.14 @ 11:17 pm

Next 6 games – Duke and UVa at home, Miami on the road, Va Tech and Cuse at home, UNC on the road. Touch stretch but a good test and the home/road lays out nicely.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 11:21 pm

Did anyone see this by Dickie V three days ago?

Pittsburgh’s Lamar Patterson can do it all — score, rebound, pass. He was a good player last season, averaging 10 PPG. Now he is a star, baby, scoring almost 18 per contest while leading the Panthers to early success in the ACC. He has improved his shooting and his assists have risen. How many of you had Patterson listed as a key performer prior to this season?

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 11:23 pm

ANY ROAD WIN is a great win! We’ll take it! Prior posters covered the facts. Before we wax to poetic for the old BEast, back to reality predicts that the new version is actually going to be decided by Creighton and Xavier. G-town is falling like a rock and nova is way overrated! Next week is the key to our season and I’m not necessarily focused only on big Monday. Glad we have both Duke and UVa @ the Pete. If Pitt is the hottest team in the ACC, UVa is 1a hottest. Will be interested to see who draws Harris defensively. Hail to Pitt! Lamar is a magician. It would have been my pleasure to see TZ throw any opponent to the floor! UPone

Comment by UPone 01.25.14 @ 11:33 pm

Just got back from the game. Two observations…

Seemed like such a quiet crowd…makes you appreciate the awesome atmosphere of th e oakland zoo!

What was up with subbing zanna and randall in and out in and out all first half?

Comment by DD 01.25.14 @ 11:44 pm

Pitt Dad I had LP’s star on the rise with the CBI Championship MVP! Drag that trophy out front and center as a tribute to Lamar! H2P! By the way kind of sick of hearing the early exit from the NCAA’s crap! Ya think that had anything to with drawing the likes of Dwayne Wade, a red-hot Butler team, and a lite’s out Witcha State Team with projected NBA talent? UPone

Comment by UPone 01.25.14 @ 11:44 pm

@UPone – big fan of LP here too. Was just surprised Dickie V is talking up any Pitt player – and that I missed it as well.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 11:48 pm

Blackout of Pitt game on all 3 Major Sports website’s Frontpage, ESPN, CBS Sports & CNN Si

They did have room for #24 Baylor’s loss and on CNN Si even the Stony Brook/Vermont game.

Some drivel about and Iowa Judge reinstating an Iowa player on CBS

And a Hoya being ruled ineligible on ESPN. Hmmm didn’t know the 11-8 unranked Hoya’s were big news.

We are getting no pub at all for the #20 team.

Comment by Emel 01.25.14 @ 11:53 pm

The Iowa story is from yesterday. The Hoya story is two days old. Let ’em keep ignoring us. I hope someone is letting the team know so they keep the edge sharp.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.25.14 @ 11:57 pm

The way I count the minutes, Artis must have played the 3 for a while tonight.

Zanna 33 minutes, Randall 6 minutes, so Young only played 1 minute at most at the 5.

Young 28 minutes, Artis 16 minutes.

Maybe Dixon is trying Artis out at the 3.

Comment by Howard 01.25.14 @ 11:59 pm

@ Pitt Dad

One thing in the BigEast, for basketball, they couldn’t ignore us. In fact I can’t remember a ranked team with a program track record like us, being ignored. It’s quite amazing.

I wonder who is organizing this blackout/all positive comments must be backhanded. What the announcers say during the games, if positive, is almost irrelevant, since most of the games aren’t a national TV audience, meaning not a lot of viewers. If the games are on ESPNU or the ACC digital network, the TV audiences are rather small. And probably composed of a big percentage of Pitt ppl, so they throw some tidbits our way.

Comment by Emel 01.26.14 @ 12:13 am

@Emel – remember, we are interlopers in the ACC. I’m sure Swofford is glad to have us but I’m sure his deal with the mouse networks is that they can praise Cuse because they have a hall of fame coach (and how many times have you heard that?) but Pitt is to be treated like a foster child.

I don’t know what CBSSports problem is. Oh wait. I do. It’s Doug Gottlieb.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 12:17 am

I CANNOT wait until Monday night when we destroy Duke!!…The PETE better be extra wild so we can show the country we ain’t no joke!!….Lamar Patterson is easily the ACC player of the year as of right now

Comment by Keith 01.26.14 @ 12:21 am

btw…I hate espn also…and Duke Vital..can suck it!!

Comment by Keith 01.26.14 @ 12:23 am

Just found this…link to

Comment by Vonteego's Way 01.26.14 @ 12:31 am

TVax, I’m sorry I didn’t see your post. The moment I read Turgeon’s comments, I got on line and posted them. Oh well, in many good speeches a statement if often repeated for effect.

Comment by Justinian 01.26.14 @ 8:06 am

More Turgeon comments (from the Trib)

Turgeon said his big men had difficulty figuring out the double-ball screens. That the Panthers made the extra pass, refused to settle for outside shots and finished their shots through contact only complicated matters for Maryland.

“They’re just tremendous on offense,” Turgeon said. “They’re really hard to guard. … It’s just them saying, ‘You’re not going to deny us.’ It seemed like they made play after play after play

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 8:09 am

I can see Artis at the 3 next year with Jeter backing up Young at the 4. Remember, there is no guarantee Durand will be ready for next season … maybe not until January, and even then he will need to catch up

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 8:13 am

By the way, on the football scene, Franklin is really becoming a annoying A-hole. Let me correct that, Franklin IS an annoying A-Hole. I don’t recall anyonbody doing more talking about what he’s going to do, Todd Graham included. This guy is still bragging how he is going DOMINATE the state. I can’t wait until get to play them and kick his ass. Mr. Franklin, talk is cheap. If you want to win respect around here, try winning your conference.

Comment by Justinian 01.26.14 @ 8:14 am

Wbb, I agree, coming off ACL sugery the recovery time could be a problem. It sucks. Gosh even last night I thought how much having Durand Johnson would help. His ability to shoot the 3 and to go through the middle to get his shot, are things that are difficult to replace. Let’s hope that all goes with him and that he’s back for conference play.

Comment by Justinian 01.26.14 @ 8:22 am

Do we know if DJ’s was a complete or partial tear? Were any other ligaments damaged as well?

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 8:32 am


Life would be really good if I never saw or heard the
blabber mouth Dickie V. His time has passed and his
routine is very very old/worn out. If he does a Pitt game
I hit the mute button. Please tell me he won’t have our game with Duke on Monday?

Comment by JR 01.26.14 @ 8:36 am

Monday should be Sean McDonagh, Jay Bilas and Jeannine Edwards.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 8:45 am

Yes, Dickie V’s schick is well past it’s time. Years ago when my sons were little they got a kick out his over the top enthusiam. I like Bill Rafferty, Jay Billas, Clark Kellog, and Len Elmore. I like to hear about what’s going on in the game we are watching.

Comment by Justinian 01.26.14 @ 8:49 am

Totally agree on Lamar being ACC player if the year and there isn’t a close second.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 01.26.14 @ 9:08 am

I know he sounds like he’s half asleep but for erudition and elucidation I prefer Len Elmore. For excitement give me Bill Raftery.

I guess I’m just old.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 9:11 am

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 9:13 am

Went to Pens game with 4 year old little girl. Lasted 2 periods gosh they laid an egg. 1/3 of crowd was Pittsburghers in dallas.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.26.14 @ 9:19 am

K will see tape of MD’s full court trap and the problems it gave us, that’s a concern if Duke game goes to the wire. Irksome that Newkirk couldn’t hit fouls, hope its temporary not chronic or he’s a liabilty breaking the press. We got a lot of favorable calls last night, network building audience for Duke. MD got them when refs wanted exciting finish. Intentional on Zanna was BS. Don’t know if Z’s poor FT shooting end of games is fatigue or pressure. Also hope its correctable, cost us Cincy game. I believe Duke game will be evenly (honestly) called by the refs most of the way with Duke getting help in crunch time. Hope I’m wrong and if not someone other than Lamar (who will be doubled) has to step up. Coach K will also pressure Cam, we need one more ball handler in crunch.

Comment by Old School Panther 01.26.14 @ 9:53 am

Our boy, Kevin Gorman, was on the fan this morning. He was asked “how do you stop Lamar Patterson?” “Deny him the ball.” Was his CORRECT answer. Make him work to get open, make him work on defense. If he gets the ball, there’s not much you can do. The only person who can stop him once he gets the ball is himself. If they do deny Patterson the ball, look for Zanna and Wright to use the open space that is created.

Jabari Parker is a tough matchup for Pitt. Would not be surprised to see Wright and Patterson guarding him, even though he plays the four or five for Duke. Pitt should be able to control boards and Zanna should be able to score inside.

Pitt needs to be a little more deliberate with the ball. Too many loose passes yesterday.

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 01.26.14 @ 10:53 am

Concerned that JR will be unable to defend Duke’s guard and will be in foul touble early. We don’t have a replacement for him. I expect Duke to try and exploit this.

Comment by Oakland-boy72 01.26.14 @ 11:02 am

Which Duke team is going to show up?

Just hope we are not too geeked up.

The new rules have really screwed up the game.

Refs can call fouls on every play and really control the momentum of any game.

Good thing our overall foul shooting has been better this year, even more crucial to success with the rule changes and over zealous refs.

Bad FT’s down the stretch is very troublesome.

The game yesterday should not have been close.

And we all know how the refs love coach K.

Comment by gc 01.26.14 @ 11:19 am

Lamar Patterson is playing on a different level right now. He is simply unbelievable out there. ACC Player of the Year without a question. My goodness.

Comment by Omar 01.26.14 @ 11:29 am

Totally disagree.

What mid-level teams would be beating this Pitt team.

This is the best Pitt team I’ve seen in awhile, and certainly better than last years team that finished 4th in the Big East, and a million miles ahead of the team two years ago.

A Providence team would have beaten this Pitt team.

I must be watching a different Pitt team than some of you fellas.

Comment by Dan 01.26.14 @ 11:41 am

I hope the students are aware, in all of the excitement, that if we should happen to beat Duke Monday night……

that they should not rush the court!!!!

Comment by Dan 01.26.14 @ 11:44 am

You have to play them one at a time, but our next three games can make or break the season. Duke and VA are two of the best four in the ACC this year and Miami will be tough on the road.

If we win all three, we will still be in the hunt for a championship, and deservedly so.

We still would have to beat Syracuse and 4 of our last six are on the road.

Duke and VA are must wins.

We need a huge game from Mike Young on Monday. He needs to play strong D and rebound well, against their bigs.

Comment by gc 01.26.14 @ 11:52 am

Patterson is an amazing player. His ability to score, pass, defend, rebound and play with a high IQ is the best we have seen in this era.

Comment by Pauly P 01.26.14 @ 11:58 am

Dan, no mid level team would beat this pitt team … unless they played the way they did last night. They could not put that team away due their own carelessness and lack of focus.

Pitt played as if they had a big game coming up to focus on, and just wanted to get out with a win … and that’s exactly what they got.

I’m not being critical … as written on this site for the past few days, the game yesterday had all the elements of a trap game, and they survived.

You will see a much more focused team at home tomorrow night and next Sunday. With Duke’s talent, if they have a great shooting night they can win at the Pete … but I expect Pitt to put a close game away at crunch time tomorrow night

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 12:27 pm

Today’s games that can help Pitt’s RPI/seeding:

North Carolina St. over Georgia Tech (NC St. should get a win at home)

Cincinnati over Temple (Cincy should win this road game)

Stanford over Southern California (Stanford may get a road win)

Clemson over North Carolina (Clemson will have a tough time winning for the first time ever in Chapel Hill)

Comment by xfmrman 01.26.14 @ 12:27 pm

Just watched the highlight show on ESPNU. I am convinced we will get no respect unless we beat Duke and VA. Gave us very short highlights and dissed Maryland more than they credited us.

Need to tear the roof of the place tomorrow.

Comment by gc 01.26.14 @ 12:40 pm

I think no rushing the court – only if we win it all. Duke game important to make the VA game important. Duke weakness is rebounding.

Comment by Frank 01.26.14 @ 12:46 pm


For whatever reason the ESPN loud
mouths don’t feature Pitt or Jamie. Instead
they talk endlessly about the cuse, the
phony Pitino, and of course coach K. Winning
is the only thing that matters. Beat the

Comment by JR 01.26.14 @ 12:50 pm

Dixon gave Artis three messages last night:

1. He can get a lot of minutes. (There was a long stretch in the first half when he played, both at the “4” and at the “3”.)

2. He won’t be kept in the game if he is out of position on defense. (He was yanked and not put back in the game despite his good scoring and good rebounding.)

3. He will be given another chance against Duke. (Dixon said in his post-game comments that he probably should have put Artis back in the game.)

Comment by Howard 01.26.14 @ 12:51 pm

Artis has big upside – will contribute.

Comment by Frank 01.26.14 @ 12:54 pm

@wbb, my apologies. I only glanced over someones comment, not even yours, and I thought they were talking about the team, not just one game.

My eyes are tired, hard to look over 200 comments.

My fault for not realizing you guys were talking about last nights gave specifically.

Comment by Dan 01.26.14 @ 1:01 pm

no problem Dan, just wanted to make it clear that I am very pleased with this team. My message here is that it’s easier to win in the ACC than the BE.

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 1:09 pm

Emel last night nailed what I feel is the potential downfall of this team in the future close games that they will play. That involves the foul shots at the end of the game. Last night Pitt was 16 for 16 at the FT line at the beginning and ended up completely opposite that down the stretch. That my friends, is how you lose close ball games. Dixon has to keep the good free throw players in there at the end or we will be exposed in the department in the future.

I also am concerned about Robinson in Monday’s game. I don’t know if it was apparent on TV, but watching him in person court side, he definitely was a little gimpy at the conclusion on the game. I hope that the knee he tweeked against Clemson isn’t a lingering issue for him.

He is the key to this offense, we need him at the point guard position 24-7. The team is not the same when he is on the bench.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.26.14 @ 1:27 pm

I think there’s a chance Pitt puts Duke away early tomorrow. Duke has not been great on the road. They aren’t great on the boards. They depend on Hood and Parker way too much to generate offense. Toughness is an issue for them.

Storming the court would be a huge mistake. Come on Zoo, act like you’ve been there before, BECAUSE YOU HAVE!

Comment by Boubabcar Aw 01.26.14 @ 1:48 pm

@JR – you left out Mini-me Pitino who is getting all sorts of exposure on the mouse networks. They are 15-5 (4-3) and the only big win is over tOSU as it started on it’s slide. You’d think he was the second coming.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 2:12 pm

Early lines I saw have Pitt favored by 3.5. I think that will increase by tomorrow.

Comment by Lou 01.26.14 @ 2:46 pm

Big one tomorrow night folks. Should be electric. Can’t lay claim to ACC without finishing off Duke AND UNC! The Pete is a tough place to enter so expect Duke to get a little surprise by the energy. Pitt must be relentless with them . Jump on them early

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 01.26.14 @ 3:11 pm

Monday should be Sean McDonagh, Jay Bilas and Jeannine Edwards.
Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 8:45 am

That’s who it is. Thankfully no Dickie V.

Comment by Mailman 01.26.14 @ 3:29 pm

Being from Pittsburgh and being a fan of the local teams – we don’t know how good we have it.

This Pitt BB team has impressed me to no end. they aren’t perfect – the free throw shooting has to improve – but did ANYONE expect this kind of opening season in the ACC? I didn’t. HCJD always has at least a competitive team, and usually a team that challenges for the conference championship. Wherefore art thou, Penn State BB? In the sewer, as usual.

Pitt FB isn’t where we want it to be but it’s better than Temple, a team no one cares about in a city that cares nothing for college football. Pitt ended the season with a bowl win that wasn’t in Birmingham.

How about a shout out to Pitt wrestling? They beat #5 Oklahoma State on the 19th and beat #13 Virginia on Friday. They are 4-0 in the ACC.

To drift a bit, the season the Pirates had, the usual excellence of the Pens, the way the Steelers ended the season and good competitive sports from Pitt make Western Pennsylvania a great place to be a sports fan. Truth is, we get a little spoiled here.


Ohio State sucks. Penn State, well, James Franklin runs his mouth like Pete Franklin used to run his mouth. Big deal.

Comment by Penguins Fan 01.26.14 @ 3:30 pm

Pete Franklin, there’s a name from the past. Funny, I live in Cleveland and never hear his name anymore around here

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 3:57 pm

I remember when we beat Duke at MSG. That win was talked about by the pundits the remainder of the year. Beating Duke is a big deal. National brand. In an up year or down year, it’s a big deal. Like beating Notre Lame in Football. Regardless of their record, it’s a big deal to beat them in the eyes of many. National Brand.

Comment by Pauly P 01.26.14 @ 4:00 pm

Who is going to be the Sam “Bam” Clancy or Levance Fields of Monday’s game? I’d love for Dukies to have another great Pitt name to remember.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 4:47 pm

So let me get this straight, we beat Maryland on their home court and dropped from 15 to 16 in CBSSports Top 25 +1 so Michigan could go from 18 to 10? Wouldn’t it have made more sense for Michigan State to drop down 8 if Michigan moved up 8? Shouldn’t Villanova have dropped more for losing to Creighton? Shouldn’t Wiscy have dropped more than 1 place for losing to Minnesota?

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 4:52 pm

Franklin is selling… How else do you explain a 4 Star DB/LB (Koa Farmer)from California decomitting from Cal and going to PSU. That is a big get.

link to

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.26.14 @ 5:08 pm

Upitt, this is a Pitt blog, I could care less who they lure to the Valley of the Ped.

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 01.26.14 @ 5:23 pm


To Pitt Dad: wonder how mini me Pitino got the Miinesota job?
Nevertheless you are spot on.

Also, we should not be too critical of our freshman. I think it is amazing to think these kids were playing high school one
year ago. Young, Josh, and Artis are keepers!

Comment by JR 01.26.14 @ 5:44 pm

Upitt, I don’t recall you posting about James or Bookser being big gets for Pitt. I do recall how you like to tell us how the schools offering aren’t of sufficient quality. So if you’re going to post about their recruits, why don’t you tell us how he’s only a 3-star on Scout, or perhaps take a dig by relaying that he’s been offered by Harvard and Fresno St. I’m sure if Pitt took someone away from Cal you’d let us know that swaying a recruit from 1-11 Cal is worse than swaying a MAC recruit. Oh, here’s some more UPS news you may not enjoy so much: link to

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 01.26.14 @ 5:48 pm

actual mini me has had some impressive wins lately

UpittBB, if you want to continue to piss off and alarm everybody, you could have said that Avonte Maddox is now a soft verbal (Rivals) or that wade Freebeck just visited Vandy.

See, you’re not even good at what you do … so why do you continue to try? Just stay on your Hoopie site where you belong

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 5:57 pm

Cincy is playing at Temple (0-6 in AAC) today, and next game is against Louisville. Cincy had a big lead (19 pts) but now trying to hold on. Sound familiar?

Gottlieb is the color guy — what a windbag, he won’t shut up. My guess is that he is an only child, or at least the youngest

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 6:05 pm

Glad to know that you two can’t say anything positive about a team other than Pitt. And we wonder why we are happy with 6 wins. The fans dont care why should Pederson.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.26.14 @ 6:20 pm

Gottlieb has a brother. More importantly, his dad was a coach.

link to

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 6:21 pm

no, we just can’t say anything good about you … someone who continues to embellish other teams accomplishments and downplays the team he allegedly roots for

Comment by wbb 01.26.14 @ 6:22 pm


I am on Framklin overload. He will quickly find out
PSU is not Vandy and winning 8 games is deemed a

Comment by JR 01.26.14 @ 6:24 pm

There’s also a Gottlieb sister. Not sure of birth order.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 6:25 pm

Just for you Upitt – your pedders got off the schneid in conference play – how’s that? Positive enuff for you?

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 01.26.14 @ 6:43 pm

JR, You’re absolutely right. With eight wins at Vandy they were dancing in the streets. Eight wins at Penn State, especially considering that a few are over Temple and the little sisters of the poor, won’t cut it with their fan base.

Comment by Justinian 01.26.14 @ 6:44 pm

If you think I’m a PSU fan or WVU fan you are off your rocker. My parents both went there and I could of and said no. I also said no to Van Zandt at WVU genius.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.26.14 @ 6:49 pm

Franklin has more commits then he has room for…PSU is on scholarship limit, is he taking away offers from those that had previously committed?

Comment by markp 01.26.14 @ 7:46 pm

Coach K who? I’m a Dixon guy.

link to k who? I’m a Dixon guy

Love it

Comment by usd121 01.26.14 @ 8:12 pm

I love the comments the father of the 2015 OL commit said about Chryst/staff (posted here some days ago).

I love how Chryst has wry responses to the whole “dominate” BS coming from Franklinstein at Ped State U.

It also how we go about the game that always matter to me to and what I like more and more about Pitt is the tenor and manner we hold ourselves out there… from the BB team that is established to the FB program that is coming along.

One year…. let’s give the whole “PA is a battle ground for recruiting” angle (in Trib review today)…. and let’s just see where it’s all at!

Franklinstein’s act is going to wear thin real quick… and yep … now he has to pull commitments on kids etc…. but hey, he is a “fiercely loyal” guy… right? Haha… tell that to Vandy’s FB team now!!

yeah too much on Franklinstein here… but can tell he is going to be someone we love to hate… and love more watching him flame out….

Comment by Pittscript 01.26.14 @ 8:15 pm

Markp, My guess he’s planning on some of them being gray-shirts. They enroll in the 2nd semester and sit out their freshman year. With a gray shirt they will have 5 years to graduate, but because they are enrolling in the 2nd semester it covers 6 football seasons.

Comment by Justinian 01.26.14 @ 8:25 pm

OK guys lay off Upittbaseball, he just offered his personal reasoning responsible for his sociopahtic behavior, and in light of that, I think that we should be more sensitive to his situation, now that the roots of his problem has been explained.

Seriously, just consider his deprived circumstances, if anyone of us had come from such a domestic background, raised by two parents, one a ped stater and the other one, hoopie educated, (and who knows WTF they teach them down there) you
would have ended up more screwed uped then Sandusky’s personal pool boy too.

Upittbaseball, I appreciate you sharing, that took guts. You have my empathy. I’ll never look at your future posts the same way again.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.26.14 @ 8:27 pm

Pittscript, Franklin’s routine is wearing thin with me. I already can’t stand him. I couldn’t belive Jerry DePaula with the Trib, he was gushing over him like he was Kate Upton or something.

Comment by Justinian 01.26.14 @ 8:35 pm

After I finished reading all the praise for Franklin in the Sunday papers I went out to shovel snow for an hour or so. Couldn’t get out of my head how it now seems the media and his entire staff has one huge crush on him. Thought it kind of ironic that a school that should have been hammered for “lack of institutional control” has hired another guy who seems so intent on being bigger than life. He may end up being the next Lombardi, right now he seems like an ass that needs to realize he’s a football coach.

Comment by cas myzlinski 01.26.14 @ 9:01 pm

More ESPN bias – Clemson/UNC gets front page status with a video. Even if it is ACC – ugh.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 9:03 pm

@justinian and cas myzlinski… Yeah the media just loves a good story… all the BS about this being a ‘high energy staff’… blah blah blah… Hate to admit it but media did same thing with Fraud Graham… 6-9months this all starts wearing thin…

… particularly if info starts dripping out of the Vandy rape trials… etcc.

With BB you would hope if we beat Duke we finally get our due… interesting comment by the Maryland coach that Pitt is a top 5 team…

Comment by Pittscript 01.26.14 @ 9:11 pm

meanwhile PC has put together a solid recruiting class from many states including a 4 star QB from Florida….among other OL studs etc…

next year we will be in even better shape… building a program to last!

Comment by Pittscript 01.26.14 @ 9:12 pm

Concerning DOE looking at PSU assault records I am reminded of an old saying,
“The government moves at a geologic pace but when it does move it is relentless”.

Comment by Frank 01.26.14 @ 9:16 pm

Doc my parents both went to PSU but as a Dentist, not a real doctor i see how you misinterpreted that.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.26.14 @ 9:21 pm

Upitt, bad news buddy, 4-star db Sherfield re-affirmed his commitment to Vandy, reportedly pegged your boy as a liar – ooh, that’s got to sting. Don’t get too down though, 2 star kicker Jorge Powell chose the pedders over Tulane – what do you think – big get?

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 01.26.14 @ 9:22 pm

I CANNOT WAIT FOR TOMORROW!!!!…i’ll be in secion 210 screaming my head off…..The PETE MUST ROCK!!!

Comment by Keith 01.26.14 @ 9:25 pm

Utah hanging tough with Arizona.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 9:39 pm

Does that make it less worse? My condolences.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.26.14 @ 9:42 pm

One reason that Pitt gets no respect in the media is because of our athletic director. Sorry, just the facts. Nationally, nobody respects the guy and that is problematic from a perception perspective.

I refuse to click on any online articles that mention penn state in the title. Conversely, I click on every Pitt article regardless of subject matter because the papers do study the clicks.

Penn state will get the largest clery act fine in history. I indicated this about five months ago that investigation had not yet concluded. They are in process of responding to DOJ inquiries. Each failure to report carries a significant fine.

Good luck to the team tomorrow. This is the toughest two weeks of the schedule. Take em one at a time. Duke physicality and constant backcourt pressure could be problematic. Personally, I match their pressure with pressure of our own. There is something to be said about teams that pressure, and that is…they don’t like to be pressured. All about tempo!

Carp’ blue devils!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 01.26.14 @ 10:46 pm

The Tarholes big 19 point win over Clemson is the featured story on ESPN.

The Holes are 12-7 and 2-4 in the ACC.

Meanwhile #20 Pitt is 18-2 and 6-1 and we don’t even get a mention on anybody’s front page after a victory.

Now you know why I dislike some of these teams. As some of you guys get older and see this crap for decade after decade, you will understand how those of us that have gone thru this for decades feel.

Comment by Emel 01.26.14 @ 11:21 pm

@ Keith.

Yes please get the non-student section involved in cheering for the team. It appears most of them just sit there, like they’re at the opera, politely applaud at the appropriate times and mostly watch the student section cheer.

It would be 4 times louder if some of these seatcovers would actually get involved in the game.

The games (for them) are a lot more fun that way.

Comment by Emel 01.26.14 @ 11:24 pm

@Emel – what about this? We beat Maryland on their home court and dropped from 15 to 16 in CBSSports Top 25 +1 so Michigan could go from 18 to 10? Wouldn’t it have made more sense for Michigan State to drop down 8 if Michigan moved up 8? Shouldn’t Villanova have dropped more for losing to Creighton? Shouldn’t Wiscy have dropped more than 1 place for losing to Minnesota?

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 11:55 pm

Who is going to be the Sam “Bam” Clancy or Levance Fields of Monday’s game?

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.26.14 @ 11:57 pm

right Pitt Dad.

It will be interesting to see where Pitt is moved up to in the polls tomorrow. Too bad the Dookie lost those earlier I would have preferred them being in the Top 5. As it stands now, I won’t be surprised if Pitt & Duke are side by side in the polls tomorrow.

We need to crush them, if that is allowed !!!

Comment by Emel 01.27.14 @ 12:02 am

I hoping for a rout, so we don’t need any late game heroics.

But Lamar seems like the likely candidate should we need one.

Comment by Emel 01.27.14 @ 12:04 am

Since we have a few posts on this thread concerning the Creepy Charlatan at Ped State, I found this very interesting quote from said Charlatan. This was after their big big win in the Compass Bowl over the powerhouse Houston (game was tied 24-24 after 3 Q’s.). (must have impressed the Pedo BOT, lol)

Franklin joked the Houston comeback was arranged to protect the TV ratings.

“Statistically, it was crazy,” Franklin said. “Our defense gave up 22 yards in the first half, 300 yards in the third quarter. We were told by the ESPN people that the ratings had gone down so we wanted to spike them back up by making it exciting in the third quarter.”

Suggesting the game was fixed is one I haven’t heard from a college or pro football coach ever.

This guy has a big mouth and based on some of his other comments about coaches wives, etc. He’s not too smart either.

His big mouth will get him into trouble(already have to a small extent), if that’s allowed these days.

Also suggesting the game was rigged to keep people tuned in, is quite ironic since we all know why this guy’s credentials and achievements (his star so to say) have been magnified.

Comment by Emel 01.27.14 @ 12:24 am

Link to above quote:

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Comment by Emel 01.27.14 @ 12:25 am

Gotta watch out for Parker and Plumlee, get lot’s of offensive rebounds.

Why am I up typing at 5:09 a.m.??

Comment by Dan 01.27.14 @ 5:08 am

Chas: I was able to isolate the first lad who was my beautiful daughter’s first high school boy friend. We were walking from the fire pit back to the house and I casually asked him how long did he think be could hold his breath underwater. Respect turned to fear, made my day.

Comment by Old School Panther 01.27.14 @ 6:03 am

pittscript (@9:12 last night), who is this 4-star QB from Florida you’re talking about? If you would click on the 3 ratings sites on the right hand side of this web site, you will find Wade Freebeck rated 3 stars in Rivals and 247, and 2-stars in Scout. Further, 2 of the 3 services has Adam Bertke (QB commit from Ohio) rated above Freebeck.

That doesn’t mean that Freebeck won’t eventually become a star QB, but we will have to wait and see.

BTW, even though Freebeck remains committed to Pitt, he made a visit to Vandy last week.

Comment by wbb 01.27.14 @ 7:53 am

ESPN has him listed as a 4 star, wbb, for whatever that’s worth. “Show me”.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.27.14 @ 9:01 am

We don’t need no stinking stars !

Comment by Emel 01.27.14 @ 9:07 am

Freebeck – Had only a few offers and then UF jumped in late which shows me he has talent. Not sure why he didn’t get many other offers but that’s why they play the game. We will see. He definitely needs to add weight and strength. He will RS anyway. At least the kid plays talent in the best state and best high school teams in US. Yes, they flew to NOLA to play John Curtis. Berkte plays against cows and chickens in Single A Michigan.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.27.14 @ 9:16 am


Best game: No. 18 Duke at No. 20 Pittsburgh (7 p.m., ESPN). The new ACC. Monday will be a proving ground for Pittsburgh, which is still getting very little respect nationally despite an 18-2 record with two losses by a combined six points. Meanwhile, Duke seems to have bounced back from whatever was ailing the Blue Devils at the start of January, winning four in a row – including Saturday’s throttling of Florida State. This is the first of two brutal road games for Duke, which travels to Syracuse on Saturday night. Monday will be a contrast of styles. Pittsburgh wants to get to the rim and the offensive glass, finishing in the paint or going to the foul line. Meanwhile, Duke relies heavily on its plethora of perimeter shooters – and the dynamic duo of Jabari Parker and Rodney Hood. The battle between those two and Lamar Patterson will be fun.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.27.14 @ 9:28 am computer has Pitt winning 65-64

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.27.14 @ 9:30 am

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