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January 21, 2014

Open Thread: Clemson-Pitt

Filed under: Basketball,Open Thread — Chas @ 3:30 pm

First up this game is not an easy one to watch outside Pennsylvania and the Carolinas. The syndicated ACC Network is only showing up in a handful of markets on the weekdays (but at least Happy Valley gets to watch some good basketball). So the other viewing options are online at or if you have the ESPN FullCourt package (hooray for a wife that forgot to cancel the package!).

It’s an 8 pm start, so that feels a little awkward.

As a brief aside, it sure seems like the early returns on ability to watch non-ESPN aired ACC games is inferior to the old Big East. Say what you will, and I know we have said plenty, but at least the Big East got their syndicated football and basketball games on wider reaching sports channels.

I’ve convinced myself that this is going to be a very tough game for Pitt. Clemson has only one inexplicable loss — at Auburn. After that, their other losses were to good teams like FSU and UMass and at Arkansas — which is one of those bad road/great home teams.


This game is important not only because it is a home game, but because this is part of the rough stretch in conference play.

That stretch starts Tuesday when the Panthers (16-2, 4-1) play host to Clemson (13-4, 4-1). The Tigers are tied with Pitt and Virginia (13-5, 4-1) for second place in the conference.

After that game, the Panthers will play a tough road game Saturday at Maryland (11-7, 3-2), a team picked by some to finish in the top six in the ACC and a team that has been much better at home than on the road.

The Panthers then come home for back-to-back home games against two teams that were among a short list of favorites coming into the season — Duke (Jan. 27) and Virginia (Feb. 2).

At that point, the Panthers will be halfway through their ACC schedule and will have a good idea of exactly where they stand in the conference.

Pitt is trying to bounce back after the tough loss in Syracuse. Saying all the right things about being disappointed and not happy with a respectable loss.

“We still lost,” Patterson said. “I know what this team is capable of. It really doesn’t matter what everyone else thinks. We should’ve won the game, I feel like.”

Where Syracuse (18-0, 5-0) moved into sole possession of first place in the ACC, No. 22 Pitt (16-2, 4-1) dropped into a three-way tie for second place with Virginia (13-5, 4-1) and Clemson (13-4, 4-1), which visits Petersen Events Center at 8 p.m. Tuesday.

The Panthers saw the Syracuse game only as a missed opportunity, one in which their porous free-throw shooting cost them the game. Pitt was 13 of 23 from the line (56.5 percent), its second-worst showing of the season.

“I don’t really think we’re into moral victories like that,” Pitt point guard James Robinson said. “We’ve just got to get ready for Clemson. We will have a chance to see (Syracuse) again (Feb. 12).

I’m not worried about how Pitt responds after the game. I just worry that they are going to find it a slog against a tough, defensive team and give in to some frustrations.


Still an impressive line for CJ given the thumb.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.22.14 @ 12:07 am

Need some advice on getting more and better Pitt BB and FB on TV.

ESPN3 is annoying to watch on the computer–my internet is Verizon DSL–No FIOS available where I live. TV is Dish Network because Direct TV offered (in lieu of FIOS) as a package By Verizon requires several higher tiers of service to match the sports programming of Dish with the Sports Pak and my budget is too tight to go the Direct TV route.

Suggestions for ESPN3 over my TV? Other options, if any with the limitations i am starting out with?

Comment by pitt1972 01.22.14 @ 12:14 am


A couple of options will be mid-level device called a Roku or an Apple TV device:

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Both allow you to stream pay-per-view movies and TV shows (Netflix, etc.), but they also have apps that let you stream free programming and sports (ESPN3, PBS, ABC, etc.).

You can also do this with most newish game consoles (XBox, Playstations, etc.). I watch ESPN3 and Netflix through my XBox in full HD with a wireless connection and the quality is just as good as regular TV.

The Roku you’d want starts at $60, the Apple TV is $99. I think Apple is better quality, but the Roku seems to have a lot more options for viewing content (most pay-per-view or subscription).

I’m sure there are other options, but those are some that I know work well if they fit your budget. Hope that helps.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.22.14 @ 2:31 am

As for the hoops, this postgame quote from Clemson’s coach is EVERYTHING!!!!

“We have a false sense of bravado. Like most young people, they believe ‘yeah, we are ready for all of this’ and then you get slapped in the face and there is nowhere to hide.”


Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.22.14 @ 2:35 am

@ MomPitt….it wasn’t directed at the GT cheerleaders. If you must criticize, at least get it right. It was at the GT female trombone players, as I had never seen so many female brass players in such a small college pep band ever.

And your obsession with me, won’t be missed. 🙂

Comment by Emel 01.22.14 @ 4:30 am

As if on cue, a Clemson hat wearing person was exactly next to me upon my arrival at said local watering hole.

Being the gracious individual that I am, we became fast friends, bought each other drinks and so forth. He even invited me to Clemson football games as he had 9 season tickets.

Too bad MomPitt or whoever was there. Of course that might have spoiled everything, being the type of individual mompitt is.

Comment by Emel 01.22.14 @ 4:38 am

I let that comment slide back then and gave you a ‘pass’ back then, I won’t do that again.

Comment by Emel 01.22.14 @ 4:39 am

And I KNOW what that makes you.

Comment by Emel 01.22.14 @ 4:42 am

Did you even go to Pitt. As it seems most of your comments are directed at me, rather anything Pitt related. Hoopie perhaps, and I attack Pedo State alot, perhaps your into little boys.

Does that offend you too ? If so,,,,FU !!!

Comment by Emel 01.22.14 @ 4:46 am

Pitt1972, Apple T.V is what I have it hooks right to your t.v and has ESPN3 on it, it shows it in HD I love it. It cost $100 but no other additional fees. It has Netflix, Hulu, and you can rent movies and some other things but I got it just to watch Pitt games it’s worth every penny check it out at Best Buy.

Comment by Steve h 01.22.14 @ 5:44 am

I heard Dan Bonner on CBS radio yesterday morning previewing the game, he called it a match up of “a good team and a not-as-good team”…

the best comment during the game was at about 3:30 left in the first half, the play by play guy said “Believe it or not, that’s Pitt’s first offensive rebound.” To which Bonner replied “That’s because they haven’t missed any shots”

Comment by KeyboardKev 01.22.14 @ 7:33 am

You have to love the athleticism and potential of the young players. Artis, Young, Newkirk, Jones. The future is bright.

Comment by notrocketscience 01.22.14 @ 7:45 am

After last night’s game, and reading about our tough defense, superb ballhandling, and JRob, Lamar, & Talib (truly shades of Levance, Sam, & DuJuan), it will break my heart if we are “one & done,” or “two & blue” in this year’s dance!! I’m a very proud alum these days! Hail to you-know-who!

Comment by Stan Schweiger 01.22.14 @ 7:50 am

The Zoo yelled “we want Duke” but better heads prevailed as Zanna said “we have Maryland to worry about first.” Looks like our players are maturing. The Syracuse loss was very beneficial for the long run. And we get the Orange at the Pete. Hail to Pitt!

Comment by MariettaMike 01.22.14 @ 7:53 am

Ok.. So which one of you yahoos hit the easy button?

Comment by Hurriquake 01.22.14 @ 7:54 am

After this game, Pitt’s war chant through the rest of the season should be, “remember Syracuse”. They played like champions! It was pretty obvious that the loss at the hands of Syracuse provided all the momentum necessary for Pitt play at their peak of execution in order to dismantle Clemson the way that they did.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.22.14 @ 7:55 am

There are several almost perfunctory bends in the road for a rising ranked team on its way to the tournament. One of them is a blow out at home and that was last night. I could feel it coming but won’t dare predict or post it for fear of jinx. Pitt was pissed, Clemson was intimidated. Their kids had the jitters, an unfamilier northern big city, a town & team with a hardnosed rep. They aren’t as bad as they looked. Based on that performance you’d think they’re poorly coached, they’re not. We will see a different team in Columbia early March but we’ll still win and I’m planning to be there with my kid.

This game could have huge implications down the road. This team has components that previous Pitt teams didn’t have yet this team still has its connection to the best of those previous teams. Both Dixon’s coaching and teams talent collective are why. Clemson blowout gave minutes and familiarity to kids who we’ll need down the road. This team has the potential to take the program to unchartered territory which runs simultaneously with the capacity for the greatest of letdowns. Either way its a beautiful thing.

Comment by Old School Panther 01.22.14 @ 8:12 am

If you’d have told me before the game we would win by 33 points and Chris Jones would be our leading rebounder (6) I’d of ask you to get me some of the stuff you were smokin’!!!

Comment by virgil 01.22.14 @ 8:43 am

the best comment during the game was at about 3:30 left in the first half, the play by play guy said “Believe it or not, that’s Pitt’s first offensive rebound.” To which Bonner replied “That’s because they haven’t missed any shots”

Comment by KeyboardKev 01.22.14 @ 7:33 am

I said noticed, and said, the same thing while at the game. Spooky.

Comment by xfmrman 01.22.14 @ 9:50 am

OK, so the announcer made a comment about what the Zoo was chanting. He said something like “Now it’s getting personal.” So, what was the chant?


p.s. I promise to wear my “blue and gold” boxers for all games from now on, including football.

Comment by pmdH2P 01.22.14 @ 9:53 am

I distinctly heard over the TV…..”Clemson sucks”

Comment by KeyboardKev 01.22.14 @ 10:54 am

@Emel, you’re a “hater”?? You emit hatred?? LMAO!!

That has to be the most overly used phrase I’ve seen in quite awhile the past few years.

Also, has totally taken away, any significance that the word hate once had.

You also drivel mindless hate too, I now see!!!

You’re a bad man Emel, a very bad man!!!


Comment by Dan 01.22.14 @ 11:06 am

Frankly, I’m offended, that people today are so

easily offended. Could someone advocate for me???


Comment by Dan 01.22.14 @ 11:08 am

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