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January 1, 2014

New Changes In Happy Valley

Filed under: Coaches,Football,Hire/Fire — Chas @ 11:46 pm

Yes, we all know that Bill O’Brien has left Penn State after two years.

Yes, this was a devastating piece on some of the things behind his departure by David Jones. Penn State has a particularly virulent,¬† nasty and visible group that has been able to gain extra influence. At the same time there is no major (and most minor ones) college program that doesn’t have a batshit crazy wing of fans/boosters. It’s really only a question of how much noise and influence they have.

Those are Penn State’s problems. How they deal or ignore their problems are something about which I don’t care to waste my time.

As a Pitt fan my concern is purely about self-interest.

The first thought turns to recruiting. Penn State made the smart move to make Larry Johnson, Sr. the interim head coach. He has no shot at the job. He has no real power. What he will do is help hold together the recruiting class until they hire a new coach. Johnson is their ace recruiter. He will certainly be on the staff for the next coach.

Here’s Penn State’s current recruiting class. First thing that jumps out is that there are only three recruits from Pennsylvania in that 19-man class, and only one from Western Pennsylvania (WR Troy Apke). I’m not sure that Pitt will be able to flip many of these recruits.

Pitt has been very poor in recruiting New Jersey in the last few years. Some because of Pitt’s own upheaval. Yet, despite changes at Rutgers and PSU as well, Pitt has only one recruit from NJ in last three years. Penn State has four kids in the class from New Jersey.

It would be nice to grab a couple of the PSU commits — especially on defense. I just don’t know what kind of groundwork was in place with the kids. Their best defensive commit — Thomas Holley¬† a 4-star DT from Brooklyn, NY — just chose PSU over Florida.

As for who PSU might hire, this seems like the ideal.

But in reality, the names rumored are about what you would expect: Mike Munchak, Al Golden, Greg Schiano and James Franklin.

There is a lot of skepticism that Al Golden would leave Miami after already having weathered the sanctions in Miami to do it again in Penn State.

There has been plenty of buzz that Greg Schiano was the focus for Penn State. A move that would freak out Rutgers more than Pitt. Schiano was a pretty good recruiter in New Jersey.

Now in an ideal world, PSU reacts accordingly by seeking a “Penn State guy.” That the administration bows to fan howling of wanting a guy that wants to be at Penn State. That is of Penn State. That won’t leave them. That leads them to hire Mike Munchak. He just screams 7-5.

James Franklin would be the inspired choice. Franklin is also a hot name. He’s rumored to be in the mix for the Texas job. He could wait a year for Florida. I imagine Maryland fans would be very upset if this one happened.

The one thing to point out. It isn’t nearly as easy as it used to be to hire a coach already at a place. The money is big everywhere. More and more coaches look at the entire package. Can they win bigger than where they are at? What’s in place? We’ve seen Michigan, Tennessee and UCLA all struggle to get their guy. Usually having to go through a couple options. Despite having the money, facilities and history.





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Why do some of you care about the
clothes a coach wears??? It is bizarre

Comment by JR 01.03.14 @ 11:20 am

@JR, Because Chryst looked so stupid at the Navy game. Then we lost and made it worse.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.03.14 @ 11:52 am

Listening to O’Brian presser in Houston on the FAN 93.7. Although he thanked the players he did not say anything about the PSU administration. It is apparent that he had issues.

Comment by JP 01.03.14 @ 12:23 pm

Was just in my car listening to the locker room show. For those of you out of towners, this is primarily a steeler show with Tunch Ilkin and Craig Wolfley. For the past two seasons Tom Bradley has been a regular. He was analyzing last nights big game. He is very good at it.

What a shame that his coaching career has been put on hiatus due to the PSU scandal. He is an unbelievably talented guy, who obviously can communicate and coach at the highest levels.

He is extremely well liked and well thought of even by the opposition. A great recruiter.

Too bad no one is able to look past his perceived association with a very sick situation.

Collateral damage, what a waste.

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 12:30 pm

Last night proved once again the importance of a ferocious pass rush.

Today’s offenses are so good that the only way to stop them is with turnovers. Pressure on the QB is where it all starts. House, are you paying attention?

Did you see what Michigan State’s defensive line did to Stanford?

We need bigger, badder, faster players, go get some!

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 12:36 pm

I heard Munchek has a meeting today with Titan ownership/management. If he feels the heat or gets fired there is another NFL coach on the way down to join Schiano in the mix. I still think Golden and Franklin are on the way up and would be foolish to seek employment among the pedophiles.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.03.14 @ 12:36 pm

When you get behind, you have to be able to throw and catch the ball. Alabama’s weakness, they were never tested in this area.

Golden would be crazy to leave Miami. Charlie Strong built a pretty good team with Miami’s leftovers.

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 12:43 pm

gc, The real damage was to the kids that got abused by these monsters. My heart holds no mercy for them or those who associated with them. Those that covered it up should share the same cell with those who caused the pain. Paterno was a lame excuse for a human being for allowing that to go on. All they touched is stained.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.03.14 @ 12:55 pm

spirit, agreed 100%. But guilt by association is wrong. People who were not aware of what was going on are not to blame. Bradley as far as I know has not been accused of any wrong doing. Only he knows what he knew and when he knew it.

You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 1:37 pm

Paterno wasn’t accused of any “wrong doing.” Mrs. Sandusky wasn’t accused of any “wrong doing.” The coach who saw it going on and didn’t do anything wasn’t accused of any “wrong doing.” They all very innocently watched as children got raped. I choose to take a less understanding position when it comes to raping little boys. I feel that those in Paterno’s circle are guilty of the most vile of behaviors and feel no remorse for any of them. You however are welcome to offer mercy to whoever you see fit. You might think Bradley is a fine man, I question his associations and stand by my disdain. Innocents was buttfxxxx by his associates and if I am wrong in my conclusion I’ll live with it.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.03.14 @ 2:03 pm

Hey GC, you only have 1 vote. ped state fired him and nobody wants to hire him. Why ??? Wonder why the squeelers didn’t hire him.

Comment by joel 01.03.14 @ 2:24 pm

The guilt by association is unfortunate for Bradley, who by all accounts is good guy. I think that in that he became the interim coach right after the scandal broke, he became somewhat of an untouchable. I wonder why Larry Johnson didn’t suffer the same fate. They were Penn State’s two ace recruiters.

Comment by Justinian 01.03.14 @ 2:49 pm

My one thought is that in that Bradley was the Penn State interim coach, that keeping in staff would not have been fair to an incoming coach. New coaches don’t want or need the previous coach around.

Comment by Justinian 01.03.14 @ 2:53 pm

GC, that was a completely different level of athlete on the Alabama roster.

Comment by Justinian 01.03.14 @ 2:56 pm

Spirit, Sandusky is in jail accused and convicted. Paterno was accused in the Freeh report, but he died and can’t be convicted. Two other guys are accused and on trial. What are you talking about?

Again, I don’t disagree with your opinion at all, in fact I think Corbett should be investigated for how long it took to bring charges.

Joel it is pretty obvious that PSU had to go in a new direction, that is why they didn’t hire him.

If you guys know something I don’t know regarding his guilt, let’s hear it.

And Spirit, who do you take a less understanding position than? The coach who saw it going on reported it and has testified about it.

I offer no mercy to anyone. You only need mercy if you are guilty of something. I ask again, what is Bradley guilty of?

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 3:10 pm

He is guilty of association with people who looked the other way while little boys got raped. How about the coach who saw Sandusky and went home and told Paterno the next day. I’m sure Mrs. Sandusky never suspected anything while hubby raped all those little boys downstairs. The whole body of people who new and suspected who looked the other way might not be at odds with the law , but they are scum sucking low life and I detest them and any who choose to stand in their defense.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.03.14 @ 3:18 pm

Right he is guilty of association. Unlike Franco, I don’t remember Bradley defending anyone.

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 3:21 pm

I hear all kinds of pity for poor Penn State , it’s not the kids that should have to suffer for what one man did. It was a lot more than what one man did. Lots of people new and looked the other way. There reasons ranged from wanting to protect the image of the school to didn’t want to get involved, and lots of excuses in between. People who can stand by and not act while little boys get raped fall below what I think is the minimum threshold of human decency. Those who associate with those types also fall outside of what I am willing to tolerate. I realize that I risk alienating some who did nothing wrong but feel it is a small price to pay to distance myself from such ilk. I feel the sanctions and penalties fall way short of just punishment. Why for instance is Sandusky still alive?

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.03.14 @ 3:34 pm

Franco was a great running back who got rich and famous playing football. I admire that he is loyal and played football well. Beyond that what redeeming human quality does he have. The biggest defender of the biggest piece of scum that ever coached a football team. Low life scum and friends. Hey Franco did you know about Sandusky too?

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.03.14 @ 3:41 pm

Spirit, glad you weren’t in charge of the Marshall Plan after WW2. LOL

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 8:20 pm

gc and outhers if franklin takes the penn state job
we are toast as far as receuiting goes he is as good at recruiting as they come.
if chryst and franklin want the same kid franklin will crush chryst.
he will put a fence around pa and we will be outside looking in.
dont know why he would go there but if he does it will to bad for us till he leaves.

Comment by Frankcan 01.03.14 @ 9:00 pm

Franklin has options. Money does talk. Texas has the big money, they get first pick.

Chryst needs to win for a couple of years before he can compete with the big dogs. Did win a few this year. Chris James, Grimm, Bookser, need more, love to see Jennings on the other side from Boyd.

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 10:44 pm

Texas needs to move fast if al golden goes to penn state strong will go to miami. then franklin will go to louisville.
and the so called best college coaching job will have to settle for sloopy seconds and look like fools. way to go texas.

Comment by Frankcan 01.03.14 @ 10:46 pm

but texas wants strong and the ucla coach franklin is 3rd on there list, and if al golden goes to state strong wants miami more then he does texas and if they dont jump on franklin louisville will.

Comment by Frankcan 01.03.14 @ 10:54 pm

Al Golden a fool if he goes to PSU. Too many issues.

Comment by gc 01.03.14 @ 11:02 pm

gc but he meets with them in the AM and said it would be like going home so it sounds like he is thinking abought it.
and they say miami is strongs dream job.
and louisville pays there coach big bucks, so just saying texas needs to move fast or look like fools
the ucla coach has allready turned texas down.

Comment by Frankcan 01.03.14 @ 11:12 pm

For all those celebrating the coaching miss at Ped State, remember it could affect Pitt as well. Whoever the new head coach is there, I can see them snagging Engram for a similar position at his alma mater. That would be a huge hit to our coaching staff. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

Comment by WWADD? 01.04.14 @ 1:20 am

Coaching mess…not miss

Comment by WWADD? 01.04.14 @ 1:22 am

spirit of perfection. I agree whole heartedly.

Comment by frankarms 01.04.14 @ 2:26 am

@WWADD, Engram is a doing a nice job, but if he left to join ranks with pervert U it wouldn’t be a “huge hit” as you describe. How hard could it be to attract a quality coach with the talent we have at the position. Coaches are only as good as those they coach and they know that. They would be begging for the job to hop on the Boyd express.

Comment by spiritofsection22 01.04.14 @ 9:53 am

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