November 25, 2013

Ever since the game on Saturday, I’ve been tossing this over in my head. Coming up blank at this point, because what Aaron Donald has been doing for Pitt has been beyond anything you expect or is within the norm for a defensive tackle.

Outside of the quarterback position, football is a game where you really, truly cannot declare one player is capable of taking over a game. There are special teams, offense, defense. Calls by the coaches. Too many facets. Too many players. Beyond the hyperbole and tremendous gaffes at some point, it is simplistic to declare one player that much of a difference maker. Especially when it comes to the defense.

Yet, what Aaron Donald has done all season. What he did against Syracuse. It has been nothing short of amazing.

Donald, who is a strong candidate for five national awards, recorded nine tackles — 3 1/2 for a loss to give him a nation-leading 26 — and blocked an extra-point try that was the difference in the game.

Chryst, who rarely praises his players, stepped outside himself briefly to talk about the effect Donald had on Pitt’s second victory in the past three weeks.

“Your eyes go to him, and he sees it and he gives you the nod,” Chryst said. “And more often than not, he comes through. That’s the mark of a great one.

“I think right now he is playing at that level. He impacts the game in such a big way. It’s pretty special to be around.”

That blocked PAT in the opening minutes. That which Syracuse fans knew would come back to haunt them. That moment of terror right before the block.

After the game, head coach Scott Shafer said he was unsure about the trajectory of the kick, and he credited Donald for his penetration up front.

“I saw the penetration and I said, “Oh boy, this isn’t good,'” Shafer said. “They did a nice job getting penetration over our A-gap guard.”

That’s because Aaron Donald doesn’t rely on his natural abilities. It has to do with how he prepares. He knew where to penetrate.

“It seems unfair almost that he is a man among boys out there,” Savage said. “That is no disrespect for Syracuse. It’s tough to block Aaron.

“It doesn’t matter what it is, he gets past the guy and almost disrupts the handoff. It’s pretty scary to have that.”

Donald said video study last week allowed him to find Syracuse’s vulnerability while blocking for kicks, and he used that knowledge to deflect an extra-point try in the first quarter.

“We pushed them back and got my hands up and got a piece of it,” he said.

We love the naturals. We gush over their potential. But when you have a kid like Aaron Donald. Someone who is so clearly working harder than anyone else. Who is learning the details and putting them to use. Those are the ones you really feel good about when they succeed.

Pitt is making the late push for possible Heisman recognition.

At the very least, an invite to NYC. It is also a good way to further push his candidacy for all the other awards for which he is a finalist or semi-finalist.

A man among boys. Every PITT player and fan has him specifically to thank for being bowl eligible. A true difference maker.

Comment by Todd Gack 11.25.13 @ 8:32 am

It’ll make me so happy to see him drafted and sign a 7 figure contract. I recall how ecstatic I was when Larod Stephens-Howling was drafted, then even moreso when I saw his first touchdown. I saw Dion Lewis’ second career NFL touchdown in person.

Comment by Justin 11.25.13 @ 8:50 am

Plus, he is a hometown boy who appears to be pretty humble. Great asset for Pitt and the FB program.

Would love to see him win a couple of these awards. Is it asking too much for him to be invited to NYC in a few weeks? … not asking for a win, just an invite.

Comment by wbb 11.25.13 @ 8:57 am


AD carries on a tradition of outstanding
players at Pitt. Hoping here that he wins
one of the national awards. Love his
humility. Also hoping underclass men
emulate his work habits. Ditto on the wish
for a 7 figure NFL contract.

Comment by JR 11.25.13 @ 9:05 am

Looks like the marketing is actually making people take note. Check out college football overtime on written by Stewart Mandel. He does the Suh comparison on there to present Donald’s case as a potential Heisman candidate.

Link here: link to

Comment by Big Time 11.25.13 @ 9:19 am

Great recruiting tool.

Comment by alcofan 11.25.13 @ 9:19 am

Larry Fitzgerald becomes the youngest player in NFL history to reach 11,000 yds receiving. Another great recruiting tool. Go get em Paul.

Comment by alcofan 11.25.13 @ 9:24 am

The comparison to Suh is amazing, and I am guessing the rest of the Nebraska line was a little more formidable than ours. To add to Donald’s amazing stats, there is no sacking threat from our ends or blitzing prowess from the rest.

He is truly a one man wrecking crew. Never got to see Joe Greene in college to compare, but AD is truly one of a kind.

My original cry for “Aaron Donald for Heisman” was partly in jest, but now it is NO JOKE.

I can remember no Pitt defender as dominant since Hugh Green and he was on a line that sent five to the pros and one to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

His two for one tackle is a classic.

Comment by gc 11.25.13 @ 9:25 am

even better tool if he wins some of these awards

Comment by wbb 11.25.13 @ 9:26 am

Not only a great football player but very humble and appears to have a good head on his shoulders. Proud he is a Panther!

Comment by Coach Ditka 11.25.13 @ 9:27 am

How does Winston’s legal situation affect the Heisman voters? Even if he is not guilty in a court of law, the court of public opinion may have an impact.

Heisman goes to accused Rapist, not the headline anyone is looking for.

Comment by gc 11.25.13 @ 9:55 am

lets hope Aaron gets 2 more games so he can show them what he can do. not just one.

Comment by Frankcan 11.25.13 @ 10:24 am

Cannot tell you how good he would look in a Steeler Uni! He is by far the bright spot in Pitt’s season.

Comment by Dan 72 11.25.13 @ 10:33 am

I’m looking forward to cheering my ass off for him Friday on Senior Day.

Comment by Joey T 11.25.13 @ 10:33 am

@Frankcan – only the Miami game will help him even if we get to a bowl. The Heisman ceremony is 12/14/13.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.25.13 @ 10:36 am

@Chas, Reed and Justin

With the high school season now completed, what is the best guess about the timing of verbal commitments from some of the guys we really want/need?


So what do we know about our “enemy” this week?

H2P Tame the Canes

Comment by pmdH2P 11.25.13 @ 10:47 am

I dont’t recall which game it was but I’ll never
forget the play. The opposing quarterback was handing the ball to the running back. AD was in
the backfield while this was happening and tackled
both the quarterback and running back simultaneously!

Comment by Classof69 11.25.13 @ 10:50 am


Duke. Enjoy it again. link to

Comment by pmdH2P 11.25.13 @ 11:00 am


On recruiting, there’s a dead period from December 16-January 15th where in person recruiting is not allowed. You cannot visit a recruit or have them visit you. This is due to bowl season. It allows teams a level playing field in that bowl preparation and when the bowl occurs doesn’t give a school a recruiting advantage or disadvantage. Basically, we may see a few guys verbal in the next 2-3 weeks (like WR Jamil Kamara, who’s officially visiting for the Miami game weekend) but then it’ll die until the end of January up to signing day.
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I’m working on my Miami research now. Their losses to VT and Duke killed their season. I’m wondering if Pitt can catch them sleeping since they have very little to play for. I don’t think it’s a coincidence their season collapsed after losing to FSU combined with the Duke Johnson injury.

Comment by Justin 11.25.13 @ 11:31 am

gc, I believe that Winston can say goodbye to the Heisman. I also believe that right now, had this situation not have been made public, he would be the favorite to win the award.

Comment by wbb 11.25.13 @ 11:31 am


Thanks. But, why wouldn’t the local kids, who (hopefully) want to sign up with us, wait? Why not do it now before the dead period? Just to drive us crazy?

H2P Tame the Canes

Comment by pmdH2P 11.25.13 @ 11:35 am

@pmdh2p – thanks! can’t see that play enough!


Comment by Pitt Dad 11.25.13 @ 11:36 am

isn’t Henry supposed to make an announcement on 12/21 … or something like that?

Comment by wbb 11.25.13 @ 11:42 am

Another reason why a 6-6 Pitt team will get an at-large bowl birth: AD.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.25.13 @ 11:44 am

Chas, the name Ryan Switzer comes to mind when I think of a player, other than a QB that is a game changer. Who is he? the guy who burned Pitt for two TDs from UNC. So there’s an exmaple of a “points on the board” game changing player. And Switzer did it again on Saturday against ODU, to the house for six! AMAZING!

OK, now on to Aaron for the Heisman. My question is why bother worrying if he gets any Heisman recognition or not? He has ZERO chance of winning it because he plays on the wrong side of the ball, at the wrong position for the wrong team. So forget about it.

Now regarding where the hype and efforts for award recognition should be focused, I expect Donald to win at least the Bronko Nagurski Trophy and the Lott IMPACT Trophy. I will be surprised if he is not, at least, a very close second in the voting for the Outland Trophy since I think that he is a front runner to actually win that Trophy too.

So Aaron will have his day in the sun just fine without dealing with all the Heisman nonsense. Too bad Pitt wasn’t doing something like a 10-2 season, ranked and playing for a BCS bowl and the ACC Championship. THEN Heisman hype would be warrented for him. He is simply a dominating force on Pitt’s defense and deserves every award that will be thrown his way.


Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 11:46 am

Legend classic odds: Both Pitt & Stanford -11 over Texas Tech & UH respectively.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.25.13 @ 11:46 am

Here’s a link to some updated (Nov 19) info on Heisman hopefuls.

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After Manziel’s poor performance against LSU, it’s all going to come down to whether Winston gets CHARGED or not.

Even if he’s not charged, I guess there is still the lingering possibility of a Civil Suit being filed by the accuser.

Looking at it in purely FOOTBALL TERMS, Donald and Winston are two players who have NOT had a BAD (i.e. SUB HEISMAN) game… maybe the only two.

To me, Donald deserves to be a TOP CONTENDER for the Trophy considering all the circumstances at play.

Another BIG GAME by Donald against Miami on National TV could HELP PUSH him into the TOP THREE.

Pitt Admin needs to get its MARKETING CAMPAIGN WHEELS in motion!

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.13 @ 11:48 am

No one thinks Donald could win the Heisman. However, it’s not impossible for him to place 5th and get invited to NYC. If enough people are turned off by the Jameis Winston rape scandal, Johnny Football’s poor attitude and game against LSU, etc., Donald could get some votes.

Comment by Justin 11.25.13 @ 11:51 am


A lot depends on HOW BIG of a game Donald has against Miami.

If voters look down the list and find themselves being forced to cross out Manziel and Winson… Donald has a REAL CHANCE to be one of the TWO or THREE who are given serious consideration.

Admittedly, McCarron is a threat. But really? I think voters would have a tough time giving it to ANOTHER QUARTERBACK if Manziel and Winston are eliminated. It would be pretty obvious that the BEST QB did NOT get the Award.

But think about it, Manti Teo actually cam in SECOND last year to Manziel. Who doesn’t think Donald is a BETTER player? Answer… only those who aren’t FULLY AWARE of Donald’s BODY OF WORK.

In my opinion, that’s where Pitt Marketing needs to get to work.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.13 @ 12:10 pm

Has anyone definitely figured out if PC called that timeout because they saw the fake happening? I wonder because it was either absolutely great coaching to catch that… or it was complete stupidity to call the TO to “ice” the kicker.

Seriously has a single call ever fallen on so wide of a spectrum?

Comment by Big Time 11.25.13 @ 12:25 pm

There’s absolutely no way in hell AJ MCarron is even the best player on his own team. His defense has allowed more than 10 points ONCE in the past 9 games. That includes 3 shutouts. 50 points allowed in 9 games, 6 of them against SEC opponents.

Tell a QB “We’ll give you NFL players at every position on offense. You need to score 18 and we’ll win every game but one” and see how many guys are undefeated. All you have to do is time your one great game correctly and it’s all good.

If you put Tom Savage in AJ’s shoes and Savage has a game comparable to Duke against aTm, I guarantee you a Savage led Bama is undefeated too.

Comment by Justin 11.25.13 @ 12:33 pm

AL QB probably gets Heisman. AD best player on defense in a long time because he directly affected several game outcomes with his consistency of play. Heisman pub could be very good. Miami apparently 5-0 in last 6 games against Pitt in November. Time to change that. Maybe use some trick plays.

Comment by Frank MD 11.25.13 @ 12:39 pm

McCarron is the ultimate game manager and couldn’t fit in better to Saban’s system. He did win the LSU game last year with the final drive, but then couldn’t make the play the very next week to beat T A&M and Johnny Football.

There is a belief, like with Justin, that any skilled QB could fit in, and that may be true; however, there is something to not making the big mistake or bad decision. I agree that McCarron is not the best player on Bama, but don’t discount him as being just average either.

Comment by wbb 11.25.13 @ 12:46 pm

I have checked a few NFL Mock Drafts for 2014 and have not seen AD’s name appear in any of them in the first or second round…Maybe he will be on some of the updated lists…The Mock Draft on Bleacher Report has numerous DT’s going in the second round, but AD is not one of them. I don’t get it. As for the Steelers ever drafting a Pitt player with high end talent, don’t hold your breath because they have passed many of them in th past.

Comment by HbgFrank 11.25.13 @ 12:48 pm

Turning it around, how about putting McCarron in Savage’s shoes against Duke. Does he have the same game?

McCarron is a threat… but only because it is ‘Bama.

Still, considering the Off-the-Field circumstances… and how all the Manziel Haters were looking for a BAD PERFORMANCE to use as an excuse NOT to give him the trophy… I think Heisman Voters are going to find it difficult giving the Award to a Quarterback.

That OPENS the DOOR for Donald. But he still needs a BIG GAME against Miami on National TV to make it all go his way.

My guess is that Pitt Players are going to come out STRONG on Friday just for that reason… to help their teammate be in contention for the Heisman.

It’s stacking up as a VERY SPECIAL Game.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.13 @ 12:48 pm

I remember Jason White of OK who won over Fitzgerald. But it was the OK O-line that made that happen. Same situation for AL QB.

Comment by Frank MD 11.25.13 @ 12:52 pm

McCarron is a good QB for sure. But award winning? Hell no. I’d argue there are 20-30 college QBs who could win just as many games as he has the past 3 years in that situation.

Comment by Justin 11.25.13 @ 12:55 pm

Again, before you write off Donald’s chances… keep in mind that Teo came in SECOND last year.

Heisman Voters are iching to give the Trophy to a DESERVING Defensive Player.

Who more deserving than Donald considering his DOMINANCE throughout the season and his story of Hard Work?

And speaking of Teo… not many would argue with Ndamukong Suh being the BETTER COLLEGE Player.

The BEST COMPARISON for Donald is not Teo… but Suh.

And looking at the numbers posted above… that makes a VERY STRONG argument that Donald COULD become the first Defensive Player to WIN.

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.13 @ 12:57 pm

I think Donald is a beast and will have a good NFL career. He is a great young man and great representative for Pitt. Did the Stache recruit him? Back to my point he is not even on the Heisman radar. He would need to score TD’s, lead nation in sacks, FF, and TFL’s and play to a national audience. As far as Savage being undefeated like AJ if he was at Bama thats not the way I see it. I actually saw us lose some games bc of Savage most recently UNC. Jameis at this point is innocent until proven guilty. I know id expect the same treatment if i was accused of something. He is the best player in the country at the moment.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.25.13 @ 1:01 pm

AJ also led a game winning drive at LSU in Death Valley last year in front of 98k with 40 seconds left. When needed he is way more than a game manager.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.25.13 @ 1:03 pm

I love Aaron Donald but the simple fact is that nobody from a 6-6 or 7-5 team is going to win the Heisman.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.25.13 @ 1:11 pm

OK Atlanta… Who in your opinion has the best chance if it’s not Winston or Manziel?

Comment by PittofDreams 11.25.13 @ 1:18 pm

Maybe he can’t win, but a defensive player should be there in NYC, who better than Donald?

Unfortunately, very late with the publicity, and the mediocre team results.

Comment by gc 11.25.13 @ 1:22 pm

AD is getting a lot of press – lately. That’s what happens with defensive players.

It is sad but true that if Winston is merely charged with a felony he is off the FSU team. If that happens before the Heisman voting, he won’t be eligible.

From the Heisman website:

The ballots state that “In order that there will be no misunderstanding regarding the eligibility of a candidate, the recipient of the award MUST be a bona fide student of an accredited college or university including the United States Academies. The recipients must be in compliance with the bylaws defining an NCAA student athlete.” If he is suspended by FSU – even if he is only suspended from the team – he won’t meet that definition.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.25.13 @ 1:29 pm

Absolutely no chance of AD winning the Heisman.

Comment by Schoocher 11.25.13 @ 1:33 pm

PittofDreams, would you mind sending me a little bit of what you’re smoking, must be primo stuff!

Manti Teo can’t be compared to Aaron Donald’s situation. Teo had Heisman hype from the beginning of the season, played for the devinely blessed team of college football and since Notre Dame was playing for the NC at that point he got even more attention!

As Atlanta Panther said above, NOBODY from a 6-6 or 7-5 team is going to win the Heisman. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the stiffs that actually vote for the Heisman even know who Aaron Donald is! Donald has Z E R O chance of winning the Heisman and is unlikely to get ANY significant consideration for votes.

I’m just hoping that the people who can effect the outcome of the Outland Trophy have paid attention to what Donald has done this season. Too bad that Pitt-Syracuse wasn’t a bigger game on national TV because that was an awesome performance Aaron put out there on Saturday!

Donald will get two or three awards, I hope that the Outland Trophy is one of them.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 1:34 pm

BTW, in the outside chance that we do get by Miami with a win on Friday, you can rest assured that if that transpires it will be because Donald has once again played another phenomenal game. THAT would greatly enhance his chances at pulling of the Outland Trophy as well as some other less impressive awards.

Clock the Canes, Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 1:42 pm

It’s late for a “Donald for Heisman” campaign but with all the turmoil over Winston/Manziel, voters will hopefully still be open to other names. A big game against Miami on national TV is key. Also, support from local “journalists” would help – – – but probably won’t happen. An invite to NYC would be a big boost for the program.

Any chance the ACC finds a way to keep UMd from getting one of the tie-in bowl invites? They could still get an at-large bid but money would come back to ACC. However, ACC doesn’t want to do anything that would risk legal battle over exit fee.

Comment by CalvinHobbes 11.25.13 @ 1:48 pm

@Big Time re: time out .. there has been no definitive proof only circumstantial evidence .. Pitt and PC aren’t saying .. PC can be seen “sprinting” down the sideline to reach the side judge to get the TO .. any coach [even PC] would have been standing next to him to ensure he got the TO in time if icing the kicker were the play .. still open to interpretation …

Comment by hoopzebra 11.25.13 @ 1:51 pm

Donald got some nice pubs from Athlon this week, being named the ACCs best Defensive player of the week for his performance against Syracuse! That helps!

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Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 1:54 pm

@ hoopzebra, I read a sports report today that has Coach Chryst quoted as saying that “Roc called that timeout”. IMO, that is Chryst’s tongue in cheek humor to deflect the attention away from “his” game saving action and keeping the focus on the “team’s” hard fought win. Not sure, just my opinion.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 2:00 pm

National publications like this help a lot too.

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Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 2:02 pm

@Big Time, I am curious myself, so I’ll put it out their again.

Anyone know for sure, if the sidelines saw the fake coming and called the timeout.

Or did they make the luckiest call of any of their careers by calling a timeout to ice the kicker???

As a Pitt fan……..I’d have to believe they got lucky trying to ice the kicker!!! LOL

Comment by Dan 11.25.13 @ 2:05 pm

First REAL basketball game of the season tonight and most comments today are about a 2 day old football game. Shows we are still a football school.

Comment by alcofan 11.25.13 @ 2:28 pm

Department of woulda, coulda, shoulda… If Pitt wins the Navy and GT games, Donald would have got a lot more publicity. His highlight film vs. GT is unbelievable, but in a loss, who cares.

What is the worst team record of a Heisman Winner, wbb probably knows, I agree with you on Winston, by the way, Heisman out of the question. Should Winston and Manziel even get to go to NYC?

Probably not fair to either, innocent until proven guilty etc.

Comment by gc 11.25.13 @ 2:29 pm

Question, is AD fast enough to play linebacker in the Pros?

Comment by gc 11.25.13 @ 2:32 pm

There is no way to prove it, but lets examine the evidence.

1. When a coach intends to ice the kicker, they stand next to the referee in order to guarantee that the time out is called.

2. Coaches don’t typically ice a 50+ yard fieldgoal kick being made by a bad kicker and thereby give the opposing coaching staff a chance to change their mind.

3. Neither Chryst nor any other coach was stannding next to a referee. Instead, he (and one of the assistants though I couldn’t tell who) was waiving his hands trying to the the attention of the Offical because they weren’t standing next to one another in order to get the call in.

Thus, it the evidence would suggest that they were not attempting to ice the kicker.

However, I believe the better question is this: Did the coaches deduce that there was going to be a fake, or did they see the TE uncovered out wide? That’s the tougher question IMO.

Comment by PittHW 11.25.13 @ 2:34 pm

alcofan, we are withholding judgement till after the game, maybe during.

Comment by gc 11.25.13 @ 2:35 pm

@ BigTime, hoopzebra, Dan, PittHW, anybody else who’s interested, Jerry DiPaola’s Saturday’s article had this quote about the TO prior to the fake FG. “That’s the drive where Chryst saved disaster with 1:03 left. With Syracuse lining up for a 53-yard field-goal attempt it had no intention of trying, Chryst quickly called timeout. Good thing. Holder Charley Loeb took the snap and threw too late to tight end Kendall Moore, who was lined up on the sideline with no Pitt player near him. It looked liked the makings of an easy touchdown. Chryst refused to take the credit. “Roc called it,” he said, referring to the Pitt mascot. But Donald said the call came from the bench”.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 3:27 pm

The high school football season is not over yet. All of the WPIAL winners will play at least 1 & as many as 3 more games. It takes 16 games to win a state title & they have played 13 so far. Shai McKenzie is the one who said he would decide December 21. I haven’t heard anything about Henry yet, although the Quips season did end this past Saturday.

Comment by Nick 11.25.13 @ 3:43 pm

@ PittHW..

Actually it might be a lot simpler than most think. Someone is always responsible on the sideline for counting players on both sides of the ball. When they only got to 10 on the Orange side, then saw where #11 “eased” onto the field, the Holy Sh!!, followed by Timeout ensued.

Comment by CompLit 11.25.13 @ 3:51 pm

Whomever called the timeout – Chyrst, Roc, House, whomeever – it was probably the 2nd best play of the day after Donald’s PAT block. Players are getting better, coaches are getting better. I don’t think there is a Pitt Panther fan who can say the coaching hasn’t improved year over year. That’s a great sign.

Also – after reading a few more posts on Donald – I think that a Heisman push is smart. No, he won’t win it, and no he might not even get an invite to NYC – though he certainly deserves it – but a Heisman push for Donald late as though it may be – does give him a better chance at the Outland – if that makes any sense.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.25.13 @ 4:00 pm

CompLit, that would have been so “the same old Pitt” to have lost that game with the faked punt. Special teams debacle once again. Thank God we got that TO. This blog would still be very dark and ominious if that TO hadn’t been called.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 4:00 pm


Sorry, didn’t see that you had replied to the time out question.

Sounds reasonable, icing the kicker, you’re usually standing by the ref waiting till the last second.

So, if he was sprinting, maybe he did see the wideout.

Wouldn’t have that been one of the bigger kicks in the nuts to Pitt fans, among a litany of kicks in the nuts over the years, if we would have lost on that play???

Chas’ site would have melted!!

Comment by Dan 11.25.13 @ 4:28 pm

ATL – Texas AM has billboard across the South and in Louisiana “Branding” the Football Program/School and SEC. I’d love to see Pitt spend 50K and get 10-15 Billboards throughout the Southeast and all through South Florida. Those kids for the most part have no clue about Pitt or it’s history unless we are playing a nationally televised game against a top opponent. I.E. FLA. St.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.25.13 @ 4:40 pm

What’s pretty amazing about AD’s blocked XP is:

he’s only 6 feet tall. Usually the guys 6’4″ or taller line up in the middle.

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 4:43 pm

That’s a great idea Upitt.

Very inexpensive way to get our name in ppl’s(and recruit’s) minds and a billboard can be there for a month or several months. Very cost effective as well.

You should send an email to EJ, cause Corhhole will just dismiss it.

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 4:46 pm

If Hugh Green didn’t win the Heisman, then no true all defensive player will ever win….especially from Pitt.—No-5-Hugh-Green

BTW….there’s a hoops game tonight.

Comment by Jackagain 11.25.13 @ 4:49 pm

Btw wtf was with Syracuse. They are called the Orange. Their school color is Orange.

So they wear all black uniforms including helmets.

Hate UNC’s uniforms anymore as well. UNC is known for their own color, Carolina Blue. Why in the world would they want to veer from a color so associated with their school. Craaaazzzzy.

I don’t want to hear about mktg bs either. haha

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 4:52 pm

That’s right Texas TEch tonite. Almost forgot.
Thx Jack !

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 4:53 pm

FWIW, and I know, not much, SB Nation, has
Pitt going to Nashville for the Music City Bowl
vs. Georgia.

I’m assuming these guys look out to the future schedule and predict the games for the final standings. Must have Pitt beating Miami.

I also think Pitt will beat Miami!!!

Comment by Dan 11.25.13 @ 5:00 pm

Syracuse went with a jax jags style helmet, fortunately they play like them too

Comment by John 11.25.13 @ 5:00 pm

Yea I’ve seen BC going to Music City as well.

Lot hinges on what happens this week. For PITT to get an ACC bowl we need to win on Friday.

If not, it’s a crap shoot. And more than likely a non-ACC bowl.

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 5:09 pm

Well I’m glad PITT hasn’t worn any of these ugly ass uni’s.

The all white ones are bad enough.

On the road I prefer, white tops with gold pants.

That’s a good enough combo for UCLA & GT and it’s our best look for the road.

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 5:13 pm

The other GREAT thing about AD is the social side. Here is a kid who will graduate, is a good representative of the university, humble and stayed out of trouble – all while excelling on the football field. Could you want anything more from a player? His is a story to make you proud to be an alum and to cheer for Pitt.

Hail to AD and Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Pitt it IS 11.25.13 @ 5:23 pm

These 2 ESPN jokers have PITT going to the:

Military Bowl (blah) (we’ve come along way since the 1960’s apparently)

Pizza Pizza Bowl (double blah)

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Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 5:34 pm

If you haven’t watched the videos on this page, you should.

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H2P!!! Thank you Aaron Donald for making us proud on and off the field.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.25.13 @ 5:38 pm

BTW….what bowl is the hoopies going to this year? (snicker)

Comment by Jackagain 11.25.13 @ 5:39 pm

For Frankie:

From ESPN:

“Only three undefeated teams remain at the top of the AP Top 25, and a logjam of one-loss teams sit under that. But past the best 25 teams, conference are struggling to fill their bowl slots, which has made room for some unfamiliar postseason names. ”

This bodes well for PITT !

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 5:41 pm

Looks like we’re on ESPN 2 at 7:30 tonite.

Pitt is favored by 11 points.

Comment by EMel 11.25.13 @ 5:48 pm

Ad has had a truly dominant run. He has totally taken control of games. Even the games where he didnt have big numbers like nd he controled the line. That being said he has zero chance of winning the heisman. Pitt has had some great players over the years on defense that didnt get any rewards ie shear mcckillop tumpilty. And oh there is no way larry fitzgerald shouldnt have won it in my opinion the guy was the best college wideout ever. Hail to pitt beat miami and get ad some awards even if it aint heisman.

Comment by zach 11.25.13 @ 5:56 pm

AD… Steelers

Comment by 63 Team 11.25.13 @ 6:02 pm

Who goes to Texas Tech for basketball? Its a football school and west texas is only about football. Emel shiukd i take pitt – 11?? How dont you destroy a texas texh team by 30. Do tell??? I have no idea how good we are cause we play no body good until late december. .

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.25.13 @ 6:07 pm

Wonder how the ACC breaks down the #1-#8 ACC teams??

Just disregard the divisions, line them up and have some sort of tie breakers set up??

Not raising an eyebrow by my comment, have loved the ACC and John Swofford, have no qualms about them.

Just wondering how they do that.

Comment by Dan 11.25.13 @ 6:19 pm


Thanks. I forgot that the state playoffs were still to come.


Comment by pmdH2P 11.25.13 @ 6:19 pm

@Emel, yes and thank you.

I’ll tell ya right now, the uniform thing isn’t just an old vs young thing.

My neice Jenn, who is 23, is the one who walked through the room and said,

“isn’t this blackout thing with the uniforms getting a little over done?? they all look the same”.

It’s like they’re all trying to out do each other, because they have nothing else to offer.

I mean, other than Oregon, (and I don’t count Baylor, they are only very recently any good), the usual suspects in the top 25 don’t have to fool with their uniforms.

Gimmicks man, that’s all, gimmicks.

Almost like they don’t have any respect for themselves.

Guess the A.D.’s gotta try to get some funds anyway they can.

Tough way to make a buck though, to sell your soul and give up the traditional uni’s, afterall, the number one thing people talk about when they talk about college football, is tradition.

So, yes, a kudo to SSS for not jumping on that bandwagon.

p.s. Ya, the whites look like pajama’s.

Comment by Dan 11.25.13 @ 6:32 pm

The only alternative Uni I want to see on the Panthers is the Script! Hail to Pitt!

BTW, it is somewhere between slim and none that we beat Miami, cause they’ve owned us!
But that being said, it’s going to be cold on Friday and Miami has been inconsistent at best. Plus, we’re still waiting for that complete game from Pitt where everybody wonders, “who are these guys”? Would be a good time to pull out a completely unexpected win. Sure would help out ADs hopes for the Outland Trophy.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.25.13 @ 7:03 pm

Didn’t Paul Hornung win a Heisman playing for a losing Notre Dame team?

AD should be a strong candidate. He has dominated but unless the talking heads of ESPN & now Fox talk him up he won’t win.

I’ve been talking about AD to my S.Carolina friends for over a month and I still have to go through the same spiel over & over on what he has accomplished.

Comment by PITT-cocks fan 11.25.13 @ 7:32 pm

EMel i would like the beef o brady bowl better then the little ceasars bowl in detroit.
detroit noooooo.
but better then nothing .
or we could do a birmingham noooooo.

Comment by Frankcan 11.25.13 @ 7:42 pm

EMel if you are still on have a good night i am going to bed.
but before i go to bed the Bleacher Report has in there latest report on bowls pitt going to the beef o brady bowl in st pete.
i just point that out becuse i came up with the same thing 2 days ago.

Comment by Frankcan 11.25.13 @ 10:32 pm

Thanks Frankie,

Just got home a little bit ago, after watching PITT dismantle Tubby & Texas Tech. Agree that Beef Bowl is better than Pizza Pizza Bowl !

Although I enjoy eating both ! lol

Have read so many Bowl projections the last couple days my head is spinning.

And yes Upitt you should have taken Pitt giving the 11. Whatsa matta wit ya !

Comment by EMel 11.26.13 @ 2:14 am

Fralic appreciates Donald’s body of work. So Aaron has that goin for him.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.26.13 @ 7:36 am

A REALITY CHECK on how deserving Aaron Donald is when it comes to the Heisman.

link to

Comment by PittofDreams 11.26.13 @ 10:49 am

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