November 23, 2013


Filed under: Football,Open Thread — Chas @ 9:00 am

So, yeah. The ACC’s predetermined protected game for Pitt. With long-time frenemy? old-Eastern-indie-opponent? Meh? It’s Syracuse. I just can’t muster requisite hate for them when it comes to football that the ACC seems to think there is between the two sides. At least not to call it a rivalry game.

I want Pitt to beat them. I want Pitt to get that bowl eligibility completed. After that? Eh.

Here are the ACC affiliates carrying the game. If not in your area, it’s on

Let’s hit some links ahead of the game.

Bowl eligibility. Bowl eligibility. Bowl eligibility. Seems like a theme.

Syracuse injuries:

The weekly injury report was distributed Thursday night, and the list was extremely long for Syracuse. Five key players — three offense, two defense — have been ruled out of Saturday’s game against Pittsburgh, including three that play starters’ minutes.

Tailback Prince-Tyson Gulley (lower body), H-back Brisly Estime (upper body) and wide receiver Jarrod West (upper body) are all sidelined for this weekend’s game. Cornerback Julian Whigham (upper body) and defensive lineman Isaiah Johnson (upper body) will be missing on defense.

Reserve wide receiver Ben Lewis (upper body) is also out, and backup center Jason Emerich (lower body) is listed as doubtful.

Lafayette Pitts hasn’t had a good year. Concedes focus has been an issue. Oddly, no mention of handling moving to more of zone coverage.

A recap from Syracuse Head Coach Scott Shafer’s introductory press conference after Doug Marrone left for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, he was/is/will be a defensive coordinator.


Pitts certainly has not progressed to the proverbial ‘next level’ this year. Early in the season I blamed House and the scheme changes. Now that the defense as a whole has shown improvement, gotta put some blame on Pitts.

I still am baffled how the Panthers secondary does not, will not turn their head to find the ball in deep coverage. Pitt has been fortunate to face a plethora of bad QBs this year. Winston was the best, who was the next best??? Connette? Rees?

For several reasons having an early Thanksgiving dinner at the Iron Duke homestead this year, prep work begins today amidst Panther football and a few toddies. One of my favorite times of the year. C’mon Pitt, keep me in a good mood, squeeze the Orange! H2P!

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 9:24 am

This will be real college football weather in late November. Predicting 4 inches of lake effect snows in Syracuse, windy, cold. That’s what I’m talkin bout!

Oops, they’re playing in the “Dome”, never mind. Maybe that dump has some redeeming qualities after all?

Mark my words. If Pitt gets an early lead, then they win this one going away. This is just the type game that Pitt comes out and surprises everybody and the Pitt faithful are left wondering what could have been of their season if the Panthers had decided to play that way for all of their games. Remember last year, it was the Rutgers game then?.

Then optimism returns, only to get our brains beat out by Miami, go figure?!?!?!

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.23.13 @ 9:25 am

I think this will be a very tough game for Pitt with a frenzy in the dome. Cuse defense is blitz happy.

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 9:40 am


Comment by AJMayo 11.23.13 @ 9:46 am

If Pitt wants to stand a chance against the ARCHRIVAL ORANGE, they need to have a gameplan where they run the ball effectively and have plenty of short, quick passes. The ARCHIVAL ORANGE defense loves to blitz at home and can make Savage’s life very, very difficult. You often want to throw short passes to set up the long ball, but in this case I think you need to keep the QB on his feet first, and if they put too many men in the box and you think you have a prayer of getting Savage 5 seconds to stay in the pocket (I doubt it), you can try a deep ball to keep them honest.

I don’t feel really good, just because the teams match up in a way that makes this a low scoring game where anything can happen.

Comment by AJMayo 11.23.13 @ 10:01 am

Could be very tough if Street does not play. Need a great day from #40.

Win the turnover battle.

Let’s go PITT!

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 10:18 am

i have no faith that we will win i want us to but i doubt that we will.
had we beat navy as we should have or NC we would not have to worry.
i thought we had turned the corner and we could win the games that we should have but no poor coaching
has done us in once more will we ever improve i guess not.

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 10:29 am

Frankcan- we should have beat Navy, but keep in mind that they’re 7-4 this year. It’s not like they’re pushovers.

Comment by AJMayo 11.23.13 @ 10:52 am

Some pregame stuff from Sam Werner of the PG via Twitter…

Bisnowaty and Cory King are both out. Hollins gets the start at LT for Bisnowaty and Schlieper gets the start at LG for King.

Titus Howard did not make the trip. Out with a head injury (that’s not good). Trenton Coles DID make the trip and is expected to play.

Devin Street made the trip and is in uniform, but is listed as probable and will be a game-time decision.

Comment by Stoosh 11.23.13 @ 10:58 am

If you get the ACC app for your iPad you can watch the game. I think it costs 5 bucks for the year to watch the marquee game. I think it is also good for basketball.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 11:08 am

Frank MD, ‘frenzy in the Dome?’ This is FB not BB. Cuse fans are even more apathetic than Pitt fans

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 12:25 pm

Pitts and Boyd cannot both be back to return kickoffs .. both wear #23

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 12:32 pm

Kill the Orangemen !!!

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 12:33 pm

When is the game. Thx. 35 degrees in Fort Worth, TX. FYI

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 12:36 pm

Already they are holding AD and no calls.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.23.13 @ 12:37 pm

lol another half-assed start

this coaching staff simply cant get a team up for a game its a disgrace

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 12:37 pm

that was quick so much for the early lead

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 12:37 pm

Wow…hell of a start. Pitt 3 and out. Syracuse runs all over Pitt’s defense and scores untouched in 4 plays. Um….Defense? At least Donald blocked the extra point.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 12:38 pm

I mean…as we saw last week, it is never truly over. If Pitt wants to quiet the boo-birds and negative posts here, though, how about start a game strong instead of what happens too many times….

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 12:40 pm

High School Uni’s – High School defense. Glad Chryst has us up for this game. Un f’nbelievable.
7-0 Cuse

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 12:40 pm

makes you wonder what this team actually does in practice

practice does not seem a part of it

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 12:41 pm

Inauspicious…Street looks hampered, 3 straight passes, then somebody forgot to tell the defense the game started. But hey, no sacks yet…

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 12:41 pm

Street to the locker room with a swollen left elbow

Comment by Nick 11.23.13 @ 12:42 pm

true, it’s never over, but the outcome has become predicable.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 12:42 pm

lol you can’t chip a guy when he’s 2 yards out of bounds syracuse guy they’ll toss that 15 yarder every time

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 12:43 pm

6 passes, zero runs. I don’t understand.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 12:45 pm

Going thru the motions

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 12:46 pm

Typical Chicken-Little hysteria here on the open thread– the other team scores first, so:

This is unbelievable… we’re an embarrassment… coaches are horrible… this is a disgrace

Let’s at least calm down until we see how the team responds, for heaven’s sake.

Comment by Navy Panther 11.23.13 @ 12:47 pm

Any idea where I can listen to the game?

I’m driving up to PGH and can use my iPhone

Comment by Why ask why it's Pitt Football !! 11.23.13 @ 12:48 pm

we’ve seen how they respond and we just saw it again

2nd and 10 might as well be 4th and 29 for this offense

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 12:48 pm

If they would throw some laundry for holding AD things might be different. Nice revenge blocking the PAT.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.23.13 @ 12:49 pm

all correct navy panther. we are 5-5 possibly going to be 5-7. i think we all know how the team will respond.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 12:50 pm

3rd and 11ish get off the field on 3rd down D

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 12:51 pm

HCPCs sweatshirt is neat. Straight off the discount rack!

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 12:53 pm

I wouldn’t say Chicken-Little Navy Panther. I agree it is way to early to say Pitt is going to get throttled, adjustments can be made, there is a TON of game left. I think it is more frustration. Fool me once (GT) shame on you, Fool me twice (NC) shame on me. Losing 3 out of the last 4 with the one game showing you can play complete is just frustrating.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 12:54 pm


i actually like that one. at least it’s not all white..i thought we were BLUE and GOLD?

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 12:55 pm

lol Iron Duke

If Chyrst plays golf he must wear a collarless t-shirt…wouldn’t be allowed at most CC’s.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 12:55 pm

These all whites should have been burned when Tiny left for the Yukon.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 12:57 pm

you guys don’t know fashion..

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 12:57 pm

Street left the game with an elbow injury.

Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 12:58 pm

what? PC used a timeout? on 2nd and 2?

obviously 2nd and 2 way too easy, must be time for an illegal substitution/illegal formation/too many men on the field/false start when we get back

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 12:59 pm

dont blame the players it is all on the poor coaching if we had good coaching we would be 7 and 5 now but we will end up 5 and 7.

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 1:00 pm

oh no not a timeout we always get a penalty or something when they call one like this

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:00 pm

good one blues..

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:00 pm

Boy seriously pounding the bubble screens today

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:01 pm

give him the ball 35 times.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:01 pm

i agree frankcan!

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:02 pm


Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:02 pm

sure. holding on us. never on them. watch AD’s jersey some times.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.23.13 @ 1:02 pm

knew that penalty was coming..2 plays late

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:03 pm

Pendlum– I understand frustration. I guess I came into this year looking at a far more difficult schedule than last year, and figured 6-6 are better is acceptable outcome for indicating we’re making progress. Would love to see us finish better than that, but given the unprecedented turmoil the program went through before Coach Chryst arrived, I’ve got a longer timeline prior to concluding we’re going in the wrong direction.

Comment by Navy Panther 11.23.13 @ 1:03 pm

tom savage can throw the long ball right? that’s what i heard

so why is it that way more than half his passes over 20 yards this year have looked like they’re thrown by a 15 year old, low, wobbly, little velocity…

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:04 pm

NIce pass by Tommy to Tyler !

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:04 pm

Great throw for that first down, big play.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:05 pm

Almost every team, every year can play the “if only we would have won the close ones” game. Some of our fans act like only Pitt ever loses a tight game.

Comment by Navy Panther 11.23.13 @ 1:05 pm

Caught a break there.

Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 1:06 pm

so lucky… hold on to the damn ball

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:06 pm

NO fumble.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:06 pm

so now PC loves using his timeouts? what is going on here…

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:07 pm

At navy panther,

our record over the past three years speaks for itself. we’ve been stuck in the same mud since dw left. NO progress.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:08 pm

Judging by attendance at Pitt’s away ACC games this year (VT an exception) we are in the correct conference. Apathy reigns supreme in ACC football!

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:09 pm

how is progress possible when we’ve had 3 coaches in those 3 years… unless those coaches names are saban, meyer, and harbaugh, you’re not going to go through 3 coaches in 3 years and get progress

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:10 pm

connor all day.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:10 pm


Few football programs would be in good shape after the chaos inflicted on it by our AD over the past three years. I don’t hold Coach Chryst responsible for it. If, in a year or two, things haven’t changed, my opinion will be different.

Comment by Navy Panther 11.23.13 @ 1:11 pm

maybe so, but i have not seen much progress in pc’s team from last year to this year.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:14 pm

Street out for the remainder of the game.

Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 1:15 pm

idiot Cuse coach wearing a visor indoors..what a putz

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:15 pm

i hear ya panther.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:15 pm

run the trucking ball!

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:17 pm

WTF first and goal from the 2 and idiot calls a pass

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:17 pm

1st and goal on the 3, 2nd and goal on the 13…pretty neat.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 1:17 pm

I would have plunged 3 times

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 1:17 pm

We gonna f-up this scoring drive

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 1:18 pm

this is why i don’t see progress. shooting ourselves in the foot again

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:18 pm

Coaches are clueless

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 1:19 pm


Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 1:19 pm

Freakin stupid ass 1rst down call led to everything following

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:19 pm

ever heard of the shovel pass

ever heard of any kind of play that takes advantage of 7 guys blitzing

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:20 pm

I just said “can they kick a field goal on 3rd down so Savage can’t mess up for a longer field goal” What is the record for longest “and goal” yardage? Ball on the 25…

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 1:20 pm

Could have run three more QB sneaks for a TD. Dumbest play call ever.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 1:20 pm

a 100 play drive leads to a FG attempt

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:20 pm

Looks like a Dave Hart team moving backwards

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 1:21 pm

Joe Rudolf sucks.

Comment by frankarms 11.23.13 @ 1:21 pm

This far into the season and this is what we got! pathetic.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 1:21 pm

This program is such a joke. So tired of watching the same mistakes game after game year after year. Pitt owns mediocrity

Comment by Scott 11.23.13 @ 1:21 pm

Horrible first and goal play call!!!! How many more years of this?

Comment by John in South Carolina 11.23.13 @ 1:22 pm

Why not keep running the ball??? Cuse blitzes every freaking down and we cannot pick it up.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:22 pm

Genuinely embarrassed to have to call myself a Pitt fan. I hate rooting for this team.

Comment by MikePITT 11.23.13 @ 1:22 pm

that wasn’t on Savage….the play call on 1rst down and goal from the 2….you got a 235lb. RB in the backfield….you give it to him…duh

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:22 pm

With Street out 1st and goal from the three and you don’t run the ball. Unbelievable.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 1:23 pm

Poor play calling let to a long field goal that should have been a touchdown. Ouch!

Comment by MariettaMike 11.23.13 @ 1:23 pm

teams run that playaction inside the 5 all the time and most of the time it works that’s why they call it…

but you don’t call it when 3 out of the 5 guys on your line would be backups at a d2 school

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:24 pm

We got an ‘On the job’ training OC & DC….talk about a double wammy working against us EVERY FRICKIN GAME

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:24 pm

We are going to need a defensive touchdown to win this one.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 1:25 pm

deep….your 1rst and goal from the 2….you don’t need play give it to your 235 lb RB like they did near the goaline against ND

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:26 pm

Even if we win we do not deserve a bowl offer.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 1:27 pm

Defense starting to assert. Finally a holding call vs. Donald.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:27 pm

at least the defense looks like it’s shown up to play after that first drive

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:27 pm

sheesh some 8 year old playing Madden would even know what to do

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:28 pm


Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 1:28 pm

Cuse’s offense is pathetic so we should be in the game at least…more painful that way…time for some more boneheaded play calls by the cheeseheads

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:29 pm

ok, here we go. time to change momemtum, run it down their throats and take the lead.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:29 pm

“deep….your 1rst and goal from the 2….you don’t need play give it to your 235 lb RB like they did near the goaline against ND
Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:26 pm”

emel… teams run that play or some variation of it on first and goal from inside the 5 all the time, NFL and college… it has a high success rate… that’s why coaches call it. pitt doesnt have the line to run it so it shouldn’t have been called by pitt in that situation but it doesn’t mean doing that instead of pounding it down the middle is a bad call most or even a significant minority of the time.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:30 pm

new york checking in. looks to me like we’re dominating (i missed the first Orange series). and if we win out we deserve a minor bowl game i should think.

Comment by WilliamsburgPanther 11.23.13 @ 1:30 pm

Do we even have a quick pass?

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 1:31 pm

what happened to power football?

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:31 pm

Helmets colors babyshit yellow… Trey Anderson appears to be the coach…..Chryst goes to him every 30 seconds……Anderson is just as tall as Voytik…..oh and this program is in reverse…..Syracuse isn’t good but we make them look like a well oiled machine. Thanks Steve Pederson. How happy is Wisconsin? They would have fired Chryst after 2 years as they have an AD with a spine.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 1:31 pm

be nice if they blocked the 1rst 2 defenders on the edge

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:31 pm

going back to punt

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 1:31 pm

Offense looks just inept

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 1:32 pm

OK…baby steps about a play that results in Pitt going in the right direction? Last 4 plays have been negative.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 1:32 pm

Sack sack sack penalty sack sack!

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 1:32 pm

Hey guys, remember when we went for 70+ yards on the opening drive of the season against the now #2 team in the country and made it look easy? Guys? Guys…..?

Comment by MikePITT 11.23.13 @ 1:32 pm

forget changing momentum..sorry.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:32 pm

we HAD good field position

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:33 pm

this team is fucking pathetic and PC should apologize like a schoolboy who just hit puberty at confession whether we win this game or not. he should do nothing but say “i’m sorry” about 200 times in his post-game presser. you should be too ashamed to show your face when your offense is more efficient at moving backwards 10-15 yards every drive than it is moving forward.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:34 pm

Another stupid playcall…that pass had to perfect…no room for error on the sideline.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:34 pm

Very poor play calling.

Comment by MariettaMike 11.23.13 @ 1:34 pm

ever hear of throwing a crossing route, where in the heck is Holtz

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:35 pm

Don’t worry boys we’re a second half team

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 1:35 pm

This is some of the worst coverage I’ve ever seen for a televised game. Wrong player names, technical glitches, tilting cameras…It’s like a cable access channel. Who are the producers Wayne and Garth?

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:35 pm

Pitt needs to start pounding the ball over and over again. Our only hope is to wear down the Orange defensive line.

Comment by John in South Carolina 11.23.13 @ 1:36 pm

I don’t think we score on offense again

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 1:36 pm

Of all the college football games I watch on TV why does Pitt’s offensive look the most pitiful?

Comment by MariettaMike 11.23.13 @ 1:36 pm

So instead of power football with Conner, we go with Boyd and Ibrahim in the backfield. Go figure.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 1:37 pm

Rudolph has to go!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 1:37 pm

We have great field position so he calls a play that has the possibility of losing yardage…instead of just running the ball with Connor. If they’re going to throw it on 1rst down, get a guaranteed 5-6 yards

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:37 pm

Hendricks misses an easy play

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 1:38 pm

this is pitt… guy in perfect position to make a tackle, stumbles, 11 yard gain. guy in perfect position to make a tackle in front of the sticks on 3rd and 3, he takes a bad angle, first down. that is pitt.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:39 pm

If we lose this game…we just lost it on these last 2 possessions…a missed TD on 1rst and goal from the 2…and then nowhere but backwards after great field position. Missed 14 possible points.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:39 pm

good for the defense. they are playing well

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:40 pm

oy vey…. time for some more Rudolph & Chyrst buffoonery

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 1:41 pm

6 yards rushing. Ouch! Can’t win without a running game.

Comment by MariettaMike 11.23.13 @ 1:42 pm

what adjustments can possibly be made at halftime this game… tell the offensive line to “play better”? that’s about it…

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:42 pm

Boyd in tripple coverage

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 1:45 pm

Among the many things hampering the Pitt O is our inability to run wide w any speed or quickness

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 1:46 pm


Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:48 pm

If I was savage I threaten their lives and their families lives.

Poor guy is taking an ass kicking this year.

Comment by Jimbo 11.23.13 @ 1:48 pm

Syracuse has an offense almost as bad as UVA. Our defense sucks. A solid high school defense could stop Syracuse that’s how bad they are and they have 3 starters out. Imagine if we played a good team. House sucks and Chryst needs an exorcism or fired.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 1:48 pm

Garner wipes out linebacker. City league

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 1:49 pm

Boyd and Conner are going to be a joy to watch. Ok there’s a positive

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 1:49 pm


the defense is the only group playing with some passion. i think ur too critical of their play.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:50 pm

These announcers are the worst!

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.23.13 @ 1:50 pm

6 points given up in a half is sucking?

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:50 pm

run the fucking ball!!

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:51 pm


Comment by MikePITT 11.23.13 @ 1:52 pm

Ram the ball up the middle,

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 1:52 pm

i told you guys they should pass!

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:53 pm


Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:53 pm

Play call looks good when the play works!

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 1:53 pm

Go Garner! TD!

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.23.13 @ 1:53 pm

Both teams stink.

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 1:53 pm

All is well! Pitt is winning! They are the best team in the world!!! Add what sarcasm you like.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 1:53 pm

CITY LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 1:53 pm

Besides the first series the defense is looking good. Soto looks like he has some speed on the edge.

Offense is struggling in the red zone.

Street is good, savage will be hard to replace next year.

I do think that Freebeck is the real deal.

Comment by Jimbo 11.23.13 @ 1:54 pm

Yes against syracuse giving up any points is embarrassing. Do you see how bad their offense is???

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 1:55 pm

Great drive, nothing stupid now

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 1:55 pm

Since we scored I have thought this over and my conclusion is – we still really suck!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 1:58 pm

it doesn’t matter how good or bad the opposing might be, it’s results that matter and they are performing so far. last week our “special teams” gave up 14..

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:58 pm

“Yes against syracuse giving up any points is embarrassing. Do you see how bad their offense is???
Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 1:55 pm”

FSU should be embarrassed they gave up 6 points to Syracuse I guess…

you’re just stupid probably the worst troll here

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 1:59 pm

opposing team..

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 1:59 pm

God I hope the steelers draft Donald

Comment by Scott 11.23.13 @ 2:00 pm

Garner had a great block on that TD drive!

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.23.13 @ 2:01 pm

not good.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:02 pm

Weatherspoon sucks!

Comment by Jimbo 11.23.13 @ 2:02 pm

And special teams rears its ugly head yet again

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 2:03 pm

idiot should be benched until he learns how to hold on to the ball. 2 fumbles in 1 game should be unacceptable

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 2:03 pm

can our defenders turn around?

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:04 pm


Comment by MikePITT 11.23.13 @ 2:04 pm

I swear to God .. I SWEAR TO GOD! I said, no don’t call timeout … this is Pitt, we’ll do something stupid!

Maybe Chryst hasn’t been here long enough

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 2:04 pm

2 lousy teams trying to give away the game! Spoon needs aseat on the bench

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 2:05 pm

Can’t blame this on the defense. O line blows and so does Weatherspoon. Hold on to the ball.

Comment by Jimbo 11.23.13 @ 2:05 pm

I can’t believe our luck or no luck. Special teams again fail us. Ouch!

Comment by MariettaMike 11.23.13 @ 2:07 pm

Pitts beat again

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 2:07 pm

How in the F do u let a guy get behind you?

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 2:07 pm

Pitts, the partial subject of this thread, again not getting his head around. Caught a huge break cause he was beaten.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 2:07 pm

dodged a bullet there

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 2:08 pm

I’ve never seen a bigger moron in the last minute of the 2nd quarter than our beloved head coach!

Did he not learn anything from last year vs Cincy, LVille, ND & UConn??

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 2:09 pm

Notre Dame must really suck!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 2:11 pm

Deep, Keep drinking that koolaid and sending smug your checks.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 2:13 pm

One of the worst played worst coached first halves in the history of football. My eyes hurt watching!

Theil Mansfield St would play better

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 2:14 pm

Condolences to the Bowl that gets stuck with either one of these teams.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 2:15 pm

Dan 72…LOL. Look away!

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 2:16 pm

Same old same old. Now strap in for the 2nd half collapse.

And why is it very obvious to the entire schedule, except for own staff, that when Soto comes in he loses contain and they gash us? What the hell is going on to continue to put these guys out there?

As for the offense, what can one say? Positives are Garner and Boyd and Conner. Negatives are play calling and inability to pick up a blitz same story line.

Comment by PittMan 11.23.13 @ 2:17 pm

my half-time adjustments..

run connor more. no five step drops for savage. he is hurt and immobile. replace the punt returner. not a great combo.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:18 pm

Spoon should have been ordered to call a fair catch before the ball was punted. They were going to take knee anyway with 35 seconds left.

What a stupid collection of coaches we have. Oh yeah…..we don’t have a special teams coach…

Comment by Jackagain 11.23.13 @ 2:20 pm

“Deep, Keep drinking that koolaid and sending smug your checks.
Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 2:13 pm”

youre gonna have to do better than that tired old kool-aid horse

giving up less than 10 points in a half to any team is not embarrassing, it’s an embarrassment to the game of football to say that it is.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 2:22 pm

Arent punt returners supposed to have good hands and are quick fast a cut or two away from going 70 yards. Not taller, slower, and bad hands.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 2:24 pm

Iron Duke I agree. Even it today’s world of a thousand bowl games, neither of these teams deserve to go. We should punish Gitmo inmates by strapping them into a chair and force them to watch this. Maybe have them meet again in late December in North Dakota at high school field in a rematch.

Comment by PittMan 11.23.13 @ 2:25 pm

We wasted 4 points in the first half.

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 2:26 pm

Deep, LOL. You have to admit Stracuse has a terrible and i mean UVA terrible offense. They cant theow the ball so force them to throw it and put 8 in the box. House had no clue in my opinion. Yes, D is better than our offense and special teams but like Dan says this is just ugly to watch.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 2:26 pm

Game plan vs pitt…….show up at the stadium and let Pitt beat itself. Syracuse is terrible……so how do you describe Pitt?

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 2:29 pm

Adding insult to injury. For those of you watching the game…..RLS security has run 2 commercials with a burglar wearing a Pitt 15 jersey getting caught by the police!

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 2:30 pm

i though it was a san diego charger shirt??

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:30 pm

they will show it 20 more times so we can figure it out.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:31 pm

that’s horrible tackling.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:32 pm

lol is right. classic bad arguing. you say something ridiculous, now you want the obvious to be admitted as if doing so somehow backs up your ridiculous initial statement.

syracuse is terrible. they cant throw the ball. even given those obvious facts, giving up a TD and a FG that isn’t your fault is still not an embarrassment period. your facts don’t support your conclusion. FSU gave up 6 points to syracuse, you said giving up 6 points to syracuse is an embarrassment. that’s stupid and no matter how much you flail around that isn’t going to change. you post nothing but classic bad arguments. giving up a TD on the first drive and shutting them out until a turnover puts them at the 25 and they only get a FG is an embarrassment? never before in the history of football is that an embarrassment… but now it is, upittbaseball has spoken.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 2:33 pm

clemmings you arent even in a stance you’re standing up how can you flinch like that ffs

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 2:42 pm

3rd and 7 — obvious pass down, and they put Savage behind the center instead of shotgun

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 2:43 pm

with a bad knee….

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:44 pm

3rd and 7 obvious blitz coming and the TE cant get off the line

easy first down if he goes instead of standing there for a second and a half after the snap

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 2:44 pm

Awful football followed by more awful football

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 2:44 pm

Deep, you are a funny guy and the reason we are insignificant You accept gross football and mediocrity bc the coach deserves 6 years but other coaches turn around programs in 15 months. Im sure you work in the Athletic dept.. Syracuse sucks and we are struggling against them. Spin it how you want.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 2:45 pm

i’ll accept slightly more than mediocrity at this point.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:48 pm

lololol yeah im the reason we’re insignificant

not stevie P, not nordy, not haywood, not fraud graham, not dave wannstedt, me.

apparently not being a bitchy whiner means mediocrity is accepted.

im sure you dont work at all… spin it how you want, you’re an idiot spewing whatever dumb thing comes into your mind. arguing on the internet is the easiest thing to do in the world and you fail at it

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 2:49 pm

Here we go…TD Cuse…do you guys here the roof cracking?

Comment by PittMan 11.23.13 @ 2:49 pm

I’m sorry, I love Pitt. But this year’s team stinks

Comment by HL2Pitt 11.23.13 @ 2:49 pm

for a QB who allegedly can’t throw, he has thrown 3 perfect long sideline passes

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 2:50 pm

We absolutely stink, third and long, no pass rush.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 2:50 pm

another great play by Pitts, corners have been a joke all year

Comment by cas myzlinski 11.23.13 @ 2:50 pm

it stunk last year and the year before as well. who’s counting though..

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:51 pm

If Syracuse is that bad at the pass as everyone is saying and our defense has played so well, as other posts have said…then how do you describe the deep pass that was on the money for a Syracuse TD? Point being with Pitt it seems this year it is just a matter of time before something breaks. Never a full game.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 2:51 pm

23 bites again on 3rd and 17 it’s the next to last game of the year and we still haven’t learned a thing. An indictment of this coaching staff! Just awful !!!

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 2:52 pm

Don’t worry Rudolph has some tricks up his sleeve.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 2:53 pm

They blitz us on 1st and goal from the three. We don’t blitz on third and long, unbelievable, we had a three man rush.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 2:53 pm

That was a good pass…but where was the safety?

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 2:53 pm

Tough guy from carrick im sure typical yinzer

Great defense. Your right Deep.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 2:53 pm

why is savage still in the game

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 2:53 pm

savage can barely walk, adjust the play calling or get him out of there.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:54 pm

Ugh. This team is awful.

Comment by PatMac 11.23.13 @ 2:55 pm

Thrown a little behind…Garner with stone hands…defense needs to step up and prevent a score here.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 2:55 pm

I suspect Cuse will plunge the rest of the game

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 2:55 pm


i don’t think anyone believes the defense is great, but they are holding long enough to give our pathetic offense a chance. 16 points (so far) should be enough for us to have a shot to win.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 2:57 pm

Frustrating. PITT never makes plays. Dropped balls, fumbles, not looking for the ball (both O and). Game 11 and same mistakes. Frustrating.

Comment by VAYinzer 11.23.13 @ 2:57 pm

Boy do we need more receivers for next year. Boyd can’t do it all by himself. I hope these runners coming in are for real, Bennett is worse than average and Conner is a great fullback.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 2:58 pm

Pitt has the look of a team begging to be beaten. Nice non pick up on the delayed corner blitz. U f n GH!!

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 2:58 pm

Why do we care!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 2:58 pm

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue

Comment by Kenny Powers 11.23.13 @ 2:59 pm

1st TD pass in 2 months! against us, he looks like Peyton!

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 2:59 pm

If you look at the whole of this season, the offensive line has consistently been our weakest unit…again. Realize they are thin, but sure seems like a lot of their issues are communication and assignment. Didn’t expect that from this group of coaches.

BTW, UNC 2 more punt return TDs today. Smoking ODU.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 2:59 pm

They only call holding when it doesn’t matter

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:00 pm

Savage is playing on one leg. Is Chryst so scared of the backups. He is going to get savage in a wheelchair for 10 months. Replace him or they wil blitz him and cause serious damage to his knee.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 3:00 pm

Anybody think we go 90 yards here?

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:01 pm

Voytik will play next week

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:03 pm

Get Savage the fuck out of the game. Is Chryst a total moron?

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 3:03 pm

I can’t wait for the Mary Poppins Chryst-backers to start spinning this debacle.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 3:05 pm

If Pederson thinks the script is associated with losing, he has to draw the same conclusion about this white unis. We look like a junior high team

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 3:06 pm

Down to the 5….. No excuse… Score,

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 3:07 pm

What a drive!!!

Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 3:07 pm


Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 3:07 pm

what a novel idea! 1st and goal from the 4, and we call a run!

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:07 pm

I saw some heart on that drive. Keep it going

Comment by why me 11.23.13 @ 3:07 pm

Excellent blocking

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:08 pm

who is this offense and can they play the rest of the game

Comment by cas myzlinski 11.23.13 @ 3:08 pm

A spark of offense

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 3:08 pm

Finally a TD. Thank you, God.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 3:08 pm

Key block by Gublioto

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 3:08 pm

Nobody answered my question, but I’ll assume the consensus was NO. Yet, Pitt magically puts a 90 yard drive together…

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:08 pm

Good play calling! Where has that been all day?

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 3:09 pm

Didn’t realize the slant pass was in the play book!

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:09 pm

O.K. Syracuse has one weapon today…. The long pass….can we pressure the qb?

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 3:10 pm

Donald is double and tripled every play. You would think someone else can get to the ball

Comment by why me 11.23.13 @ 3:11 pm

we need a turnover

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:12 pm

Great drive.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 3:13 pm

defense needs a stop and can’t do it

Comment by cas myzlinski 11.23.13 @ 3:14 pm

Gordon and Hendricks out on back to back plays – can’t be goood

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:14 pm

Gordon and Hendricks. Not good folks

Comment by why me 11.23.13 @ 3:15 pm

bad, good or great defense, they need a stop!

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 3:15 pm

Wow. UNC with 80 points and most of the 4th quarter left.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.23.13 @ 3:16 pm

Two equally stinky teams gutting it out. Last man standing will win.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:16 pm

i dont get why PC doesnt open up his playbook a little from the start of the game

whenever he opens it up the offense can and does move

so why not do it right from the start

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 3:17 pm

Murphy never tackles anyone

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:17 pm

deepem, he should open up his playbook in actually trying 2 runs in a row

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:19 pm

Saw Murphy standing and watching on a 3rd and short play earlier. Scared the dog yelling at the TV

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:19 pm

Too many missed tackles on this team all year long.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:20 pm

Ideally, we can go down and put 7 more on the board.

Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 3:21 pm

Can we sustain a winning drive?

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:22 pm

This is where we usually go 3 and out.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 3:23 pm

That’s about right. Heh.

Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 3:24 pm

Run the ball!!!!!!!!!

Comment by HL2Pitt 11.23.13 @ 3:24 pm

can we sustain a winning drive? nope, but we can sustain 1/2 a winning drive for cuse with a bad luck “seems like it only happens to pitt” INT

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 3:25 pm

This game is like a high school jv game

Comment by Keith 11.23.13 @ 3:25 pm

Losing the turnover battle

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:25 pm

Donald. Good grief.

Comment by why me 11.23.13 @ 3:27 pm

Donald the one man wrecking crew

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:27 pm

Halftime Central Catholic 20, Woody High 0

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 3:28 pm

Donald gets held on every play

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:28 pm


you gotta be kidding me

these ACC refs

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 3:28 pm

Man we need this win. Not getting the game down here in SC.

Comment by Shawn 11.23.13 @ 3:28 pm

Nice play Gonzo

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:28 pm

Dodged the big one, maybe they stink worse than us.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:31 pm

Zing goes the bullet past Pitt’s ear…

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:31 pm

great defense eh baseball?? lol..

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 3:31 pm

High school plays better. This is more like JV

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 3:31 pm

Where the eff is Conner?

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:31 pm

Is Conner hurt? He needs to be in not Bennett

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:31 pm

Yeah. Goalie they are just awesome.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 3:33 pm

way to eat up some clock on that drive…or not. Hoping defense can step it up. I fear Cuse scoring and Pitt having to come back. Just a lot of sacks, tipped balls, and incomplete passes.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 3:34 pm

Syracuse helmets are badass

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:34 pm

May the worse team lose!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 3:34 pm

Just like last week, 3 and out when we just need a first down or 2. At least Cuse didn’t run the punt back for a TD.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:34 pm

Cuse is due for a turnover.

Comment by why me 11.23.13 @ 3:34 pm

IronDuke, I agree about Murphy. Both he and Soto have a dose of half-ass. Durham stays at home and plays hard, I am so sick of seeing guys walk to the ball. Not sure why they stick with these guys.

Vinopal and Linebackers doing well. Donald off the charts.

Offense sucks as usual. Hueber I guess will go over to Chryst’s house and yuck it up over beers saying we came close.

Comment by PittMan 11.23.13 @ 3:36 pm

Durham is total waste

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:37 pm

Murphy makes a tackle

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:38 pm

Donald bear hug

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:39 pm

hold em

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 3:39 pm

Disagree. He doesn’t lose contain and hustles. Those other two couldn’t perform in a high school game.

Comment by PittMan 11.23.13 @ 3:39 pm

Ok, the 1st play should be a short rollout pass to Holtz after a fake handoff to the other side of the field

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:41 pm

How many tackles does he have this year? sacks?

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 3:42 pm

If Pitt can move they win

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 3:42 pm

Soto is a natural frosh — it’s too early to make judgment on him (like any other frosh)

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:42 pm

Can we run the clock down and keep their offense off the field?

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 3:43 pm

If Pitt miraculously holds on, next week will be ugly; they are so banged up.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 3:43 pm

Good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose, an old cliche but true !

Let’s see how this one unfolds

Comment by Why ask why it's Pitt Football !! 11.23.13 @ 3:46 pm

one more 1st down would be HUGE

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:46 pm

This is an essential 1st down to get right here. Have Syracuse use their timeouts and then get it!

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 3:46 pm

i fear getting beat by a field goal…

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 3:46 pm

damn it, PC doesn’t know they would be crashing in on he edge … really??

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:47 pm

only this offensive line could give you a -8 play like that one. guy is on isaac maybe a quarter-second after he gets the ball from savage.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 3:48 pm

Bennett runs into the tackle. At least Conner runs thru the damn holes

Comment by why me 11.23.13 @ 3:48 pm

The end is nigh!

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 3:49 pm

youve got to be kidding me. really

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 3:51 pm

illegal substitution…un freakin believable

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 3:51 pm

1 shot to the left foot. pitt

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 3:51 pm

Yep, here we go again. Illegal. Substitution.

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 3:51 pm

Wow…flags everywhere. Hate to see 11 games into the season, still getting penalties for not being able to count how many people are on the field.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 3:52 pm


they finally noticed donald getting mauled on every snap

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 3:52 pm

those 2 screwuped playcalls in the early 2nd quarter where we only got 3 points instead of 14…bite us now

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 3:52 pm

Only need 3 points…hate to say it…not looking good.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 3:53 pm

Another late 4th quarter killer play against us.

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 3:53 pm

it’s uncanny .. isn’t it?

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 3:54 pm

cant the offense put a fricken end of game drive together??

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 3:54 pm

they have no to’s left…so defend the sidelines

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 3:54 pm

No excuses we should win

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 3:55 pm


Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 3:55 pm

so Pitt..almost blew the game

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 3:56 pm


how you like PC’s timeout calling abilities now

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 3:56 pm

Wow…Chryst calls a timeout to freeze the kicker and LUCKS out on that fake, which would have been an easy TD

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 3:56 pm

alright…we can fall on the ball now and not fumble

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 3:57 pm

wow i hope he’s ok, vinopal got him good there

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 3:57 pm

Lucky…….Syracuse is terrible.

Comment by Isnore 11.23.13 @ 3:57 pm

Great play ray.

Comment by why me 11.23.13 @ 3:57 pm


Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 3:58 pm


(Never in doubt, lol)

Comment by VAYinzer 11.23.13 @ 3:59 pm

There are no bad wins. There are no bad wins. There are no bad wins etc.

Comment by Dan 72 11.23.13 @ 3:59 pm

yea he’s a real genuis..deep…lmao

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 3:59 pm

I’m exhausted

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.23.13 @ 4:00 pm

Going bowling, deservedly or not. Be there next week, but wondering how ugly that game is going to be. Then 3 weeks of “preparation” to play in a bowl game.

Comment by Pendlum 11.23.13 @ 4:00 pm

Thank you Aaron Donald for that blocked XP.
What if Pitt had lost on that fake FG???? Holy $hit.

It’s a win, and I know I’ll get hammered by the half-full guys for saying this but certainly not a feel-good win. Syracuse just an eyelash more self-destructive than we are.

On to Shreveport! Or Blawnox!

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 4:00 pm

A simple case of Pitt’s players overcoming their own coaches…again.

Comment by Matt N. 11.23.13 @ 4:01 pm

maybe holder had knee down anyway but very lucky us

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 4:01 pm

Some of the worst bowl eligible teams you’ll ever see.

This game shouldn’t have even been close.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:01 pm

We are an embarrassment to college football. If Syracuse would have scored on that fake punt the lynch mob would be forming right now. We suck so bad it isn’t even funny.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 4:01 pm

Onto the Birmingham, Tire, or poulin weed eater bowl!!!!

Comment by Why ask why it's Pitt Football !! 11.23.13 @ 4:02 pm

pitt wins, how they won, good or bad, again doesn’t matter. their record is 6-5.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 4:02 pm

Cuse will beat BC next week, means another 750,000 for the conf.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:02 pm

“yea he’s a real genuis..deep…lmao
Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 3:59 pm”

i know right lol

because both of the holder’s knees were actually down. if they’d scored that fake it would have been reviewed and overturned, both his knees were so clearly down.

so all it really did was give cuse another play

if they’d gotten that first down or actually tried to kick it and made it… another ONLY WIT PITT moment so barely averted. that would have been the weirdest, most heartbreaking way to lose a game, even for pitt, ever.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 4:03 pm

Bennett goes down on first contact EVERY time and rarely makes anyone miss; Conner almost never goes down on first contact and frequently makes people miss: Rudolph/Chryst logic — give Bennett more carries, especially in key situations!!!

Comment by Matt N. 11.23.13 @ 4:03 pm

On the fake FG, the “holder” had his knee on the ground when he got the ball. Would have been dead then, if timeout not called.

Comment by PetePitt73 11.23.13 @ 4:04 pm

@ Matt N

funny they didn’t bring in Ibrahim there. lol

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:04 pm

For a change, a good timeout. H2P!

Comment by MariettaMike 11.23.13 @ 4:05 pm

Ha Ha Ha, hey, they proved me wrong and won!!!

I have to ask though, from a quick browse of the comments, and popping in on groups of plays at a time, do I really need to watch the DVR of the game when I get home from work???

Or, just hit the Scotch and watch college football??

From the parts I saw, looked like something death row inmates should have to watch before they get the noose.

Hey, it’s a win, huh???

Funny thing is, I think they’ll beat Miami!!!!!

Comment by Dan 11.23.13 @ 4:05 pm

Conner ran like a diesel vs UNC and ND the last two weeks; Bennett got dropped repeatedly at the line: Obvious solution — bench Conner and run Bennett, especially to protect Savage from 3rd and long situations!!!

Comment by Matt N. 11.23.13 @ 4:05 pm

i noticed Bennett runs flat footed, easier to knock someone off their pins that way.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:06 pm

Still, better than a loss, but not much. Glad to get the bowl and the extra practice, we certainly need it.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 4:06 pm

Going to be a cold one on Friday for when The U comes to town.

Comment by Mailman 11.23.13 @ 4:07 pm

Our coaches stink. The stench from the AD must be contagious. If we go to Shreveport, I will be there. Another mediocre season. When will it end?

Comment by TX Panther 11.23.13 @ 4:08 pm

@ Dan-o

You can Fast Forward thru most of it. Pitt did absolutely nothing on offense after scoring to make it 17-16. Which was all of the 4rth quarter, part of the 3rd.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:08 pm

A win is a win. Bowl eligible. We’ll take it. Hail to Pitt.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 4:08 pm

I’m afraid that I must agree with Smizik … his blog today was entitled ‘Bowl Eligible .. the New Definition of Mediocrity’

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 4:08 pm

Yeah EMel, why not Ibrahim?! In fact, put in the second string fullback instead of Conner — or the 2nd string trombone player?! The key is you don’t want to feed the hot hand, ’cause that just is unfair to everyone else.

Comment by Matt N. 11.23.13 @ 4:08 pm

@ gc

yea i was thinking about the extra practice, cause they mentioned it during the game as well.
Problem is all that extra practice hasn’t helped us at all the last 3 years.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:09 pm

Will Savage be the walking wounded next week? Sure would be nice to bop Miami. 7-5 would be outstanding for this particular group.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.23.13 @ 4:09 pm

Baby steps …. I guess

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 4:10 pm

Our playcalling is so bad it hurts my noggin fierce. Had to start with the whiskey far sooner than I’d prefer…but Savage and Donald are serious gamers, and Williams and Vinopal showed up big today — thank goodness for the defense.

Comment by Matt N. 11.23.13 @ 4:11 pm

Connor had a 16 yard run in the 1rst half. he hardly got the ball after that, again i think PITT gave up, i don’t know why, trying to run the ball. They must like seeing Savage brutalized, tough kid

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:11 pm

Well that certainly was butt ugly. Typical ‘cuse game.

Comment by Pitt it Is 11.23.13 @ 4:12 pm

Savage has taken more tough hits, been layed out so many times in half this season…than Tiny took in 3 years. He would just fall down and go in the fetal position.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:13 pm

What QB wants to go to Pitt behind this line?

Comment by TX Panther 11.23.13 @ 4:13 pm

Rudolph clearly doesn’t come across as a braniac in his interviews but how smart do you have to be to watch film and see 50% of Bennett’s carries are for two yards or less (and I like the kid) and 50% of Conner’s are Jim Brown-esque?! Yes, I said ‘Brown-esque’.

Comment by Matt N. 11.23.13 @ 4:15 pm

What a game by Aaron Donald, where would we be without him. Didn’t think we could win without Street. Garner made the difference. Savage is a warrior. Boyd his usual.

Conner must have got hurt again.

Really glad for the kids. Vinopal a difference maker.

wbb, as usual you are right on, too many bowls lead to mediocrity. But being mediocre is better than being bad. We are barely on the right side today.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 4:15 pm

I have the game taped. Should I watch!! Can’t wait for bowl game.

Comment by JP 11.23.13 @ 4:15 pm

Well I’m glad we won bigtime, painful to watch, as everytime we were receiving a punt, I was thinking we’d fumble. Glad we won, because of their f*cked up NY’er Orange fans as well.

Little Caesars Bowl or not !

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:16 pm

I guess I’d rather be mediocre than dead.

Comment by TX Panther 11.23.13 @ 4:17 pm

Deep, good point. If TO not called, holder is down and game is over. The TO gave Cuse a shot to pick up the first and stay alive.

A fittingly convoluted and serendipitous ending for such a crap game.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 4:18 pm

Note — if you’re a holder, you are allowed to make a play from a knee on the ground. I remember a big 1st down LSU mad a few years a go when the holder from a kneeling position lateraled the ball forward to a guy running in front of him … a planned play.

A hold on the FG or Xtra pt is the only play where the ball is not whistled dead when it is possessed by a player on one knee

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 4:18 pm

Connor walked off in the 3rd quarter holding his arm — it’s possible he was injured but don’t know for sure

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 4:19 pm

Savage would be a good Steeler because the O line is about the same

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 4:20 pm

@ Matt N…Bennett made 2-3 decent runs in the entire game, thank god 2 were in the last time Pitt had the ball to move the sticks. but truly I don’t see what they see in him. Old Dominion as UNC proved today is a scrub, 80-20 in a walk-over.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:20 pm

“Note — if you’re a holder, you are allowed to make a play from a knee on the ground. I remember a big 1st down LSU mad a few years a go when the holder from a kneeling position lateraled the ball forward to a guy running in front of him … a planned play.
A hold on the FG or Xtra pt is the only play where the ball is not whistled dead when it is possessed by a player on one knee

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 4:18 pm”

i watched the game on the computer so i cant go back and check, but i am 99.9% almost certain that after the holder got the ball, he put his second knee down as well, before he got it to the guy on the sideline, and as far as i know, that means play over. 1 knee ok, put that 2nd one down after you get the ball, not ok. but i could be wrong.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 4:23 pm

a win is a win did not think we would do it but glad we did.
we might win next week becuse we can now relax and play with out a worry we can play with out pressure

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 4:27 pm

are you drunk today Frankcan.

You spelled everything correctly. lol

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:29 pm

oh wait…frankie is FRANKCAN (caps)

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:30 pm

Pitt weather 38 degrees on Friday

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 4:34 pm

check it out.

almost end of the 3rd Quarter, FCS Georgia Southern is in the swamp beating Florida, 20-10.

Gotta think if they lose, Muschamp is gone.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:38 pm

Can we get him as our coordinator?

Comment by TX Panther 11.23.13 @ 4:44 pm

Do you trust the ACC officials to make that call?

Comment by AJMayo 11.23.13 @ 4:44 pm

Good omen, Nebraska coach wearing sweatshirt on sideline at Penn State.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.23.13 @ 4:46 pm

Muschamp can save his job if he beats FSU at home

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 4:52 pm

We are the 9th bowl elgible ACC team, ACC bowl’s are all filled I believe, so we’ll more than likely be in a Non-ACC bowl.

Best Guesses, Little Caeasars (not enough B1G elgible teams), Compass (too avoid this nightmare, Tenn needs to win out & Miss State has to beat Ole Miss next week), and lower tier Big 12 bowls, since they won’t have enough eligible teams either.

Maybe if Syracuse doesn’t beat BC, Pitt will end up in the Big 12 Pinstripe Bowl. But I read they’re eyeing Notre Dame vs Buttgers.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 4:59 pm

EMel the ACC has a small problem there are 10 teams who have at least 6 wins who can go to a bowl
but this year they only have 8 bowls so who gets screwed and stays home?

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 5:01 pm

If both Tenn & Miss State AREN’T bowl eligible that would open up another lower tier SEC bowl.

Like Advocare Independence Bowl, Libery or Music City.

I guess Nashville would be the best out of that grouping. Get out your cowboy hats and cowboy boots are back in style. Yeeeehaaaaaa !!!

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:04 pm


A win is a win. AD is man. Another great game as once again he is a difference maker. Look it was ugly. Both teams are beaten up and missing key guys. Hoping for snow on Friday vs
the U. Bowl games are criticized however the kids are rewarded with a trip and gifts. Small payback for working thru
A long season. I’ m hoping for Shreveport rather than Detroit.

Comment by JR 11.23.13 @ 5:05 pm


several conferences aren’t going to have enough bowl elgible teams. See my above posts.

Right now, the BIg 12 and the Big 10 will have bowl slots available for sure. SEC could have 2 available or NONE. Depending on TEnn & Miss St.

We’ll land somewhere for sure.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:07 pm

Drive thru booze emel. Problem is we may get left out in cold bc pitt fans dont represent like the sec schools or better supported acc schools.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 5:08 pm

As long as it’s not the Birmingham Rust Bowl again.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:10 pm

LOL. Detroit and NY would stink. Bowls are for the south not cold ass north.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 5:12 pm

If anyone gets left out, it should be Maryland, since the Twerps are leaving.

Maybe the ACC bowls will not invite the Twerps, they travel as poorly as Pitt, but the Big 10 spot in the Little Caesars will take them.
Makes sense.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:14 pm

ACC will figure out something, they want the extra bowl money Pitt or whoever will provide.

If cuse wins next week 11 of 14 acc teams will go ‘bowling’. Ridic. but the Big Joke is the same way.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:17 pm

Yeah I agree if you want a bowl you should win 8 games

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 5:20 pm

Honest to God – I love these gameday open threads. Someone who is technically adept should put the +/- comments on a graph, or better yet to music, so we can see just how screwed up some PITT fans are.

I’ve stepped back over the last week and haven’t even read the Blog much due to other things going on but the one thing that remains constant in that 99% of the commenters state PITT sucks during the 1st quarter then reverse themselves to say “Not that bad!” three hours later.

To win in the Dome against a decent SYR team while giving up two turnovers and gaining none shows the kids stuck in and did the job IMO. It looks like we held SYR to under the average yardage we were were giving up in both passing yards and rushing yards AND we came from behind and won. Not sure what else you guys want to see.

I didn’t watch the game but can tell by the comments that the conversation we had last week about Chad Voytik still held trump. This staff would rather drag a terminally ill Tom Savage out to the huddle by his heels than go with the #2 QB.

Anyway, we have an excellent chance to be 7-5, 4-4 in the ACC after next Friday night.. and have qualified for a bowl game. That record is where even the most optimistic of PITT fans thought we’d end up during the regular season. Even with a loss I think the majority of fans felt that 6-6 was most probable.

So why the raging criticism from the negative fans when we actually do what we ourselves thought we’d do?

I’ll say this and it is my opinion. If Chryst can take this team to 7-5 while playing almost the whole FR roster on a regular basis I think he’ll had done a very good job as the HC. We were lacking two deep talent almost across the board, with a few exceptions, and may still win seven games. IMO not too shabby in his second year coming off that previous three year mash-up PITT went through.

Comment by Reed 11.23.13 @ 5:20 pm

Hoping for Annapolis

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 5:21 pm

maryland is gone next year so who would get the best bowl us or them.

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 5:22 pm

Final Score
in the Swamp

Georgia Southern 26, Florida 20

Love to see the Gator blogs being lit up.
Muschump is as good as gone !

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:25 pm

I know the announcer said PC called time out to freeze the kicker, but I think he may have called time out because he knew his defense was confused and was not set.

Comment by HbgFrank 11.23.13 @ 5:25 pm

You’d have to think the ACC would take care of one of their own and screw the Twerps. Let their new conference take care of them, give them the open Big 10 bowl slot in the Pizza Pizza Bowl in Detroit.

We certainly don’t want to go there to play a MAC team, who would probably beat us.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:29 pm

Appreciate the refuse to loose attitude men! Congrats on picking up the W on the road to become bowl eligible! After all the seniors have been through in the past couple of years you guys deserve a bowl trip! AD you are UNREAL! Proud to be a Pitt Alum! H2P! UPone

Comment by UPone 11.23.13 @ 5:30 pm

@ HbgFrank

That was kinda strange in hindsight. A timeout could have been called for a variety of reasons.
First they said Chyrst was trying to ‘ice the kicker and then they said “oh he saw they had a trick play”. Glad we won but that comical announcing in hindsight.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:31 pm

Also, a win is a win, but man there was some curious decisions made by the coaches on both sides of the ball. Leading the way are the pass on first and 2 or 3 and goal; and, the suddenly soft pass rush on the long TD when Cuse was facing a 3rd and long. Every time we pressured that QB today it was effective. Why give him the opportunity to setup for a long throw? Somebody posted it correct above when they said the players saved the coaches asses today….And lastly, Tom Savage is one hell of a football player! Now, let’s pack the house on Friday and smack the U all the way back to sunny Florida!

Comment by HbgFrank 11.23.13 @ 5:33 pm

I guess when you win…it’s like hitting the lotto, who cares the reasons why.

You just did. lol

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:33 pm

deepembl. believe you’re right. I was unaware that he had both knees down

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 5:36 pm

We’re so use to losing these types of games I guess we’re all looking for some reasons why we won. Other than pure luck and they were slightly more inept than us.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:39 pm

The Panthers won the game. It wasn’t pretty, but they won. That is the most important thing.

Pitt is kind of beat up and let two games get away from them, but they have six wins before the end of the season and that is an improvement.

UPone made a great point. The Pitt seniors have been through more garbage than the Penn State seniors. yet, they responded today, won a road conference game and became bowl eligible.

Let’s hope it’s real cold next Friday night and the U (as in pee-yew) just shows up and goes through the motions.

Comment by Penguins Fan 11.23.13 @ 5:41 pm

a few notes: -Savage was sacked only 3 times according to the Trib. Seemed like a lot more.

- Pitt’s longest pass play was 17 yards

- Pitt MUST find their running game if they ever want to matter. According to Justin’s analysis, Syracuse was supposed to e weak on the run … our run game was once again pretty pathetic

This should be the #1 priority for HCPC next year

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 5:42 pm

Az St cs. UCLA. You huys want to watch a stud then watch Miles Jack. True Frosh who starts at LB and as a RB. He is a Boss!!!! Should be a good game.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 5:45 pm

@ wbb

We need that Running Game Coordinator & O-line coach who was at Wisky, Bob Bostad. He must have been the man behind the curtain, so to speak.

Cause what we got, was the window dressing.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:45 pm

6-6 or 7-5 is still mediocre to me without any true quality wins. We’ve got much work to do to beat a team like FSU or Clemson. Let’s see how we match up against Miami next week. Nothing to be proud about in this game. Another toilet bowl with maybe 2000 Pitt fans in attendance.

Comment by TX Panther 11.23.13 @ 5:50 pm

correction and apologies … Justin did not say that Cuse was weak against the run… nonetheless, it should be the major point of emphasis for the staff in the off-season

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 5:53 pm

@ upitt

The Game to watch tonite

#3 Baylor vs #10 Okie State. The O/U is 78 !

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:53 pm

i am with Frank MD i hope for Annapolis we would travel to there better then shreveport.
all thou it would be warmer and more fun there then annapolis.

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 5:54 pm

Oddsmakers were spot on, predicted a 1 point
Pitt/Cuse game. Amazing aren’t they ! haha

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 5:55 pm

Reed, your kool-aid wouldn’t be so sugary if you watched the game. I try to be positive but when I see the same thing over and over in the past 3 years … one rusher after another coming untouched after our QB, you’re forced to become cynical.

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 5:58 pm

Reed, the game was torture to watch. We kept trying to give the game away. 1st down on the 3 and Savage gets sacked on a corner blitz. End up with a field goal. Go ahead after a nice drive. Spoon fumbles punt return. Go ahead a second time, ball goes threw Boyd’s hands, interception. Gave Syracuse a final chance to win, We held. Nailbiter to the end. Don’t think Chryst doing the happy dance today.

In all honesty these games make you a schizo.

We finally win a game that truly could have gone either way. Glad we won, but we are not a good football team.

This game was won by Donald and Savage and they are gone next year.

Overcame the loss of Street, that was an achievement.

As a program, hard to tell whether we are going up, down or sideways.

I usually don’t take solace in this, but glad we are not WVU or PSU. When has a PSU-Nebraska game meant nothing. But you have to admire the PSU fans they are up there going nuts in the usual PS weather. Our fans would be home in bed or in the library studying.

Florida beat by Georgia Southern, don’t ever say coaching don’t matter.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:01 pm

agree wbb

Anybody that watched that entire putrid game, would know those were 2 terrible teams. One was just more terrible than the other, slightly.

The entertainment value of that game was zilch.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 6:01 pm

Pitt didn’t even have 250 total yards.

Cuse had slightly more, hard to believe, with that JV QB they had.

Pitts gave that freshman Cuse WR off the bench, who hadn’t even caught a pass in over 2 months, more room than if the kid was Larry Fitz. He is not good anymore at all. They (the coaches) really regressed him.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 6:06 pm

That performance by either team would get a SEC Coach fired. Just like Will Muschamp is about to learn.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 6:10 pm

Anyway Miami destroyed Virginia today.

Our only hope I see is: that their bowl slot wouldn’t change whether they beat Pitt or not.

So that they come in disinterested. Pitt plays like today or last week, we get hammered.

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 6:11 pm

Watched a little of FSU, Winston is great, but boy does he have a cast of receivers. Love to see Savage throw to a bunch like that. Robert Foster missed a great opportunity to catch a few from Savage. Boyd, Street and Foster would have been hard to cover.

Need a few more like them.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:12 pm

good comments gc.

Comment by goalie44 11.23.13 @ 6:12 pm

GC. Robert Foster will have a National championship Ring. I don’t think he cares about catching balls from our 24 year old QB.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 6:14 pm

Will Savage play next week? Will Savage walk this week? It looks like off season surgery to me.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:15 pm

UPitt, but will he ever see the field?

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:17 pm

GC, not this year as he will RS. He will start next year im hearing. Buddy is over there.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 6:23 pm

UPitt, they have 15 receivers on the roster, 5 are freshmen.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:26 pm

It wouldn’t matter if Savage had Fitz, Boyd & Foster.

If you’re lying on the ground with a 300 lb’er on you.

Pitt was afraid to throw deep against scrub ODU, fearful of not being able to protect the QB.

btw. North Carolina annihilated ODU today 80-20.
They were all over that ODU QB we let pass for over 300 yds. He had 130 or so today. lol

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 6:39 pm

And yet, we could have beat NC if not for two punt returns.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:47 pm

3-4 seniors are gone. Foster will start as a RS freshman. He’s that good per the WR Coach.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 6:50 pm

The thing that holds us back the most is the lack of a running game. The combination of poor line play and no break-a-way threat allows defenses to rush with abandon.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:51 pm

Good for Foster, I hope he is an All American. Just too bad he is not our All American.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:53 pm

I give the unsung hero award to Mark Giubilato who sealed the lb on Bennetts game winning touchdown.

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 6:57 pm

That was a great and timely block

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 6:58 pm

GC. I agree. I hope Boyd continues to do his thing. If he has a good QB a juco or a stud new guy he could be special and play on Sunday. My only fear is lack of a solid qb. Man we need a stud juco to step in as it appeara Chryst has zero faith in Voytik. He sticks with a one legged gimpy savage vs. going with Chad.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 7:03 pm

Just returned from the South Carolina – Coastal Carolina Game…WOW…what a difference….70-10! I think Coastal would have give Pitt a run for their money! Amazing to watch a team with DB and linebackers who can close quickly and hit. A proficient offensive line and special teams that can cover kickoffs and punts. From reading the blog I am glad I missed the pian of watching the Pitt game.

Comment by PittSouthCarolina 11.23.13 @ 7:31 pm

I don’t know that it is a lack of faith in Voytik, he knows what Tom can do. As seen against NC, he can lead a comeback. He has a pro arm. He is a mature drop back passer.

Voytik looked good in the spring game and I think he will be more than adequate next year, if the line is better. It should be with another year of maturation. If the freshman running backs are like Lewis and Graham, Voytik could be running a balanced attack.

Chad will have the whole off season to prepare.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 7:36 pm

Unless he is called to action next week.

Comment by gc 11.23.13 @ 7:38 pm

Yes but Chad has zero college game experience and with that comes growing pains usually unless you are famous jameis.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 7:40 pm

Can’t remember but did PITT even try one deep throw today to try and stretch their defense vertically to try and open up some more running room. Might have helped.

Anyway we’re going out to celebrated the big win !
Bowl Streak now at 6 !

Hail to PITT !
Veritas et Virtus !

We done killed the Orangeman !!!

Comment by EMel 11.23.13 @ 7:49 pm

6-5 at this point. Just as anticipated by many. Glass is half full as we are bowl eligible. Good news is that we have not regressed in W-L

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 11.23.13 @ 7:51 pm

Hunt was supposed to be an awful passing QB. I saw some great throws by him AND some awesome catches that appeared that the Orange receivers had velcro gloves on. WTF was up with that?

Other observations. Tom Savage is one tough Mother and Aaron Donald made enough fantastic plays today for an entire highlight video.

As required, Garner played well today and J.P. Holtz came to play as well. The quick pass was an essential ingredient for success today to counteract Syracuse’s smothering pass rush and biltz packages. Pitt was successful in that regard too.

I totally disagree with the comment that this game was devoid of entertainment value. If you were not invested in either team and just were watching the game for fun, you got your money’s worth. Any game that has that many twists and turns(overs) and swings back and forth with lead changes is fun to watch. For me, it was horrible to watch, because being a Pitt fan, I just kept anticipating all the various ways Pitt was going to shoot themselves in the foot to end up losing the game. And what do you know, they didn’t lose the frickin game. THAT I couldn’t believe!

As another poster say many times, there is no such thing as a bad win, especially when your a Pitt fan! Ugly? yes! Bad? No!

Just enjoy the victory, no matter how ugly it was, because of course you realize, this is exactly the type of game that Pitt usually loses, just not today.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.23.13 @ 7:54 pm

zags blog has some tape on are new 6 foot 11 center
shaq doorson if you want a look he moves very good for a big man he is not clumsy and seams fast.

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 8:01 pm

Can u guys understand why voytek has not played yet, we Will have another 5th year senior transfer as word has it

Comment by Paul Shannon 11.23.13 @ 8:01 pm

pitt won and psu lost. if you can’t be satisfied with that kind of a saturday, time to reassess.

Comment by deepelemblues 11.23.13 @ 8:04 pm

Would like to hear why coaches did not plunge for the TD when we were first and goal at the 3. We could have thrown a few deep balls also. Special teams better but only one long return.

Comment by Frank MD 11.23.13 @ 8:13 pm

South Fayette upsets Aliquippa 34-28 in wpial championship. Go get a couple of those Quipps, Paul.

Comment by alcofan 11.23.13 @ 8:29 pm

EMel if you are still on the AAC has 6 bowls this year and only 4 teams with 6 or more wins.
guess what 2 bowls they wont be able to fill the beef bowl and the bowl you love best yes it is true
i think it has are name on it i know you would love that.

Comment by Frankcan 11.23.13 @ 8:50 pm

Sorry to see Pitt’s pipeline lost tonight….good article about coach Z in the PG.

link to

Comment by Jackagain 11.23.13 @ 8:56 pm

Think Pitt is bad….look at UConn….they have to stay the new BE and are losing 21-0 to 1-9 Temple right now.

They won’t win a game this year.

Comment by Jackagain 11.23.13 @ 8:58 pm

well we just got Challingsworth from So Fayette and, who knows, maybe we get Brett Brumbaugh next year … another pipeline?

Comment by wbb 11.23.13 @ 9:01 pm

By the way, this ugly win was our second come from behind victory this year.

Comment by Dr. Tom 11.23.13 @ 9:11 pm

Arizona State and Graham continue to kick ass. May go Top 10 if they will tonight and next week. Couldn’t happen to a bigger asshole but who knows how bad it was working for Smug.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 9:33 pm

Not over yet Upitt – UCLA kicking back!!!

Comment by TVax 11.23.13 @ 10:02 pm

Yes i see that but he may win Pac 12 south tonight. His D is awesone and so is grice and kelly

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 10:07 pm

You hear that? Going over grahams background and the announcer says yeah, at pitt they promised him somethings and they didn’t cone through so he left. Smug strikes again.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 10:09 pm

Az D has 8 sacks.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 10:11 pm

Not sure that South Fayette beating the Quips was much of an upset. SF has developed quite a program over the past 5-10 years, with this team being their best.

Great comments on here tonight, really appreciate the insight, including learning that one knee down for a holder is not down in college football. Thanks wbb.

One comment to Reed – Pitt is thin but truly not that young. We lose a number of key players. Will the replacements be ready? Where would Pitt be this year without Savage, Donald, Street, Hendricks, Williams, Gordon? Hell throw Hollins and Schlieper in there. IMO, the loss of Savage and Donald sets Pitt back a lot next year. The two of the are worth 2-3 wins on their own. They won the game today for sure.

I can actually see Pitt taking a step back next year. If you want to measure Chryst and this staff, 2015 will be their make or break year.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 10:11 pm

In 2 years he wins the Pac 12. Say what you want but wow they are balanced. D had 9 sacks.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 10:20 pm

Just got home from syr. No one can ever bad our student section-syr had 40 kids in their student section at their on campus stadium.

Comment by John 11.23.13 @ 11:15 pm

Also play calling was putrid. Syracuse had 3db’s out and we thru 4 passes over 20 yards. And Conner was absent almost entire second half. Date I say House better play called than Chryst and Rudolph??

Comment by John 11.23.13 @ 11:18 pm

*dare I say house a better play caller -damn auto correct

Comment by John 11.23.13 @ 11:20 pm

Graham stepped into a great situation, that’s for sure. Athletes that he needed to run his style up and down the roster.

It will be interesting to see when how things go next year after he loses the 7 starting seniors on defense and 4 starting seniors on offense.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.23.13 @ 11:25 pm

John, to be fair, Syracuse’s semester ended last week. You’d have a hard time convincing me to stay on that campus any longer than needed.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.23.13 @ 11:27 pm

UPitt, I have déjà vu, remember you singing Graham’s praises about this time last year. Look, he’s a decent coach. His best quality is knowing how to surround himself with good assistants, a skill that Chryst seems to lack.

But Graham didn’t recruit Kelly or Grice or really any of the core of that team. That’s another of Todd’s strengths: he knows a good situation when he sees it; hence the early exit from Pitt.

And one of ASU’s losses DID come vs. ND. So…by the transitive property, Pitt crushes ASU…hahaha.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 11:31 pm

John, bet you can count the number of Pitt students at the UM game on one hand. Ok maybe two hands. Got an email this week imploring me to move my seat to the student section for this game. Bad weather day, Black Friday, meaningless game, there won’t be 30k at the Miami game.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.23.13 @ 11:35 pm

Im not saying he built the team from scratch im saying he is winning big games and the conf in his 2nd year. That’s all.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.23.13 @ 11:42 pm

I hear you, just saying Graham is a shrewd opportunist, not necessarily a football genius. The worst career decision he made was coming to Pitt. Didn’t take him long to figure that out. Dude is not an idiot.

College football is full of Todd Grahams. In fact the sport rewards the traits that Graham possesses. Brian Kelly, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban. All great coaches, all mercenaries. Graham is certainly in the right line of work.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.24.13 @ 12:07 am

We’ve gotten six straight quarters of great effort from these guys. Hope they have some fire for Miami next week. It’s a national telecast. Great opportunity for Chryst.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.24.13 @ 12:14 am

Syracuse campus is ugly and nothing to do on it. Pitt’s is beautiful and full of life and energy. A shame visitors probably don’t see it when they attend a game off campus. Most of the Orange students went back downstate for the holidays. The city of Syracuse is a hole. Beautiful country surrounds her however. Texas didn’t always live in Texas. Did I mention Cuse is a basketball school. Pitt better work hard to bring balance and not have that happen to us. We’re already well down that path.

Comment by TX Panther 11.24.13 @ 8:16 am

I’m not sure there is anything we can do about the crowd Friday. I will be there with my son freezing, but I doubt the kids will come and many casual fans will stay home. No surprise just hate that it will be on National TV.

Comment by htp123 11.24.13 @ 8:29 am

I don’t blame fans for not showing on that day. I just don’t want to hear 50k attendance when only 20k are obviously there. There are lies and then there are damn lies and then there is Cornhole.

Comment by TX Panther 11.24.13 @ 8:33 am

Brett Brumbaugh has been mentioned a few times here on Pitt Blather. I live in South Fayette and I took my five year old to see two games this season.

Coach Joe Rossi installed a spread offense at South Fayette, which is a AA class school in the WPIAL – for those who don’t know. Rossi and his coaches – and all the other people who work in SF football- have built an impressive program here. South Fayette is one of the fastest growing districts in all of PA and will certainly be in a higher class in five years. SF has awesome facilities, too.

Brumbaugh has great presence in the pocket. He lets it whip for 50, 60 yards with no problem. He also throws a lot of slants and timing patterns of 15-25 yards. His older brothers are at William & Mary and Robert Morris. And, he’s a junior – a 6′ 4″, 200 lb junior. He should only add muscle as he matures. Temple and Akron have supposedly offered a scholarship already.

I am sure HCPC and his coaches are aware of Brumbaugh. While I don’t think the Pitt pipeline has been hurt at all by the Quips losing, Pitt will likely look more at SF. SF’s linemen and linebackers are too small for Pitt, but their skill positions are something to consider.

As for Chryst – he has had exactly one recruiting class play for him. One. Considering the turmoil Pitt has gone through, I’m happy with 6-5. Two years from now, certainly not, but for now, Pitt won, Penn State (who Ron Shnook praised in his column – go figure) lost and that is a lot to be happy about.

Indiana smashed Penn State this year. Indiana – let that sink in for a moment. Name the last time Indiana went to the Rose Bowl. Pitt probably has more Rose Bowl wins than Indiana.

Comment by Penguins Fan 11.24.13 @ 11:08 am

I think that might have been the first Rose Bowl game I ever watched. Indiana vs. USC or UCLA.
1967 or 1968. Whatever one is was, Purdue(LeRoy Keyes) was in the next one.

I think IU got routed by USC/UCLA.

Comment by EMel 11.24.13 @ 11:01 pm

@Comment by Paul Shannon 11.23.13 @ 8:01 pm “Can u guys understand why voytek has not played yet, we Will have another 5th year senior transfer as word has it”

Savage staying in the game was nothing to do with Voytik and everything to do with Savage being a tough kid. Listen, Savage has gotten his ass kicked and all he does is lead to the team to a come back win while injured. Should Izzo have pulled out Matiene Cleves in the Natioanl Championship game when his ankle was clearly broken in 2000? Of course not.

What you get in Savage is beastly leadership, toughness, and the guys followed that. Read Boyd’s comments about Savage staying in the game. He has the respect of his teammates and the coaches.

As to Voytik next year, he was a 4 star pro-style QB (despite being recruited by Grahm, he was not a spread guy) in high school, so he should be a good fit. We’ve got 2 freshmen coming in as well. I would be surprised if we bring anyone in. I have heard that there aren’t any BCS Qb’s with a 1 year left like the situation Wilson had at Wisco and the consensus seems to be that Chryst has no interest in JUCO players. Do you have any insight that suggests he’s ever had a JUCO player?

Comment by PittHW 11.25.13 @ 3:04 pm

PittHW – I’m not sure what you mean by your comment re: Savage & Voytik above. You can be sure that if Chryst felt he had a back-up QB who could spell Savage, given Savage’s injuries, he’d have done it already. But that isn’t the case at all. This staff obviously feels that Savage will play unless he absolutely physically can not do it.

Savage has been extraordinarily stoic and tough this season, that’s for sure.

Comment by Reed 11.25.13 @ 9:18 pm

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