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September 20, 2013

Nostalgia Time With Duke

Filed under: Football,Honors,Opponent(s) — Chas @ 7:43 am

Pitt and Duke haven’t played each other in football in 37 years. Yet, you would think there is a long-storied past based on some of the stories from this week.

For two programs that are very different and only 17 games played between them, history is the theme. The first game was back in 1929, and Pitt was a victim of the 1938 “Iron Dukes” team.  But Pitt and Duke played another game in 1950 that at least counts as a step in history.

Pitt was about to travel to Durham, N.C., with a player destined to become part of a scene never witnessed on a college football field in that state: a black man playing against a white man.

Flint Greene, a backup defensive tackle for Pitt who was an all-state selection on WPIAL championship teams at New Kensington High School, made history that day, turning a 28-14 Duke victory into the first integrated football game in North Carolina. ACC historian Al Featherston said Duke and North Carolina had played against blacks only on the road out of state.

Altoona native Blaine Earon, a Blue Devils All-American defensive end, attended Wade’s meeting.

“He said to us, ‘If there is anybody who has an objection, let me know,’ ” Earon said from his home near Atlanta. “Nobody put up their hands. I’m serious. The only time it was mentioned was at that meeting.”

By all accounts, Greene’s presence prompted no reaction on the field or in the stands.

“You didn’t even know the guy was there,” said Billy Cox, the Duke quarterback.

It may have helped that Duke was very proactive in making sure there was no issue.

Wade warned his players he would pull them if they caused trouble for Greene. Duke president Hollis Edens and Wade issued a statement to reporters.

“Yes, we have heard that Pittsburgh has a Negro on its squad,” the statement read. “The coaches of each team have the unquestioned right to play any eligible man they choose to play. We have neither the right nor the desire to ask a coach to restrict or limit his team’s participation on the grounds of creed or color.

“Duke students and fans have a fine record of treating visiting teams courteously. We have every reason to believe this record will be continued.”

Cox, who grew up in Mount Airy, N.C., and was a classmate of Andy Griffith’s, said Wade’s warning may have been unnecessary.

“I don’t think we were far enough south,” he said.

Yes. Yes, you were. If that was the first integrated football game played in North Carolina. You definitely “were far enough south.”

But where history and the present really intersect is in 1976.

And the 1976 Duke team has the distinction of scoring more points (31) than any other opponent that faced Pitt in its undefeated national championship season.

“We couldn’t even slow them down that day. If it was a tight football game, we might have gotten beat,” said Bobby Roper, the defensive coordinator on the 1976 Pitt team and father of two current Duke assistants – Kurt, the offensive coordinator, and Zac, the special teams coordinator.

If you feel like going down the nostalgia rabbit hole, Bobby Roper had plenty more to say about the 1976 team and the Sugar Bowl.

The Panthers had originally been scheduled to play Notre Dame in the middle of their season, but the TV powers-that-be approached Majors about moving that game to the beginning of the season, offering Pitt national exposure out of the gate (side note: TV schedule setting? The more things change, the more they stay the same).

“We took a vote on it, and I voted against it,” Roper said. “He (Majors) went and talked to the team, and they all wanted to do it. The other coaches wanted to do it, and so I was wrong again.”

Roper was also on the wrong side of the vote about a curfew for the players in New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl. The Panthers’ trip started in Biloxi, Miss.—a little warmer than Pittsburgh in the winter, Majors said—and ended in New Orleans, leading up to the Sugar Bowl.

“I went to the Sugar Bowl as a senior, and they had us stuck out 30 minutes from downtown,” Majors said. “We were isolated way out of Bourbon Street, and we got bored. There were two movies and free bowling passes, and I never cared much for bowling.

“When I became the head coach, I let the players have a good time.”

And the Panthers did have a good time, as noted in this excellent 1977 Sports Illustrated piece (wasn’t life better before smart phones?). They also completely dominated the Georgia Bulldogs’ junkyard defense, sealing the national championship with a 27-3 win.

And then there is the Duke head coach and his connections to Johnny Majors and Walt Harris.

In 1982, a 27-year-old David Cutcliffe had just wrapped up his second season as the head coach at Banks High School, his alma mater, with a regional title. The former Alabama player and Birmingham native was living the good life in his hometown.

Then he got a call from his friend, Phillip Fulmer, at that time the offensive line coach for Tennessee, imploring him to join the Volunteers and head coach Johnny Majors.

“We used to joke that he had a Cadillac and a bass boat, gave them both up to come up there and be a graduate assistant,” said former Pitt coach Walt Harris, who joined the Volunteers a year later as their offensive coordinator.

“People believe in him, and he’s done a great job,” Harris said. “They gave him a chance to have a chance. He gave the school a chance because they haven’t been very good at football in a while.”

Harris said that when the two were assistants at Tennessee together from 1983-88, he could tell that Cutcliffe was head coaching material.

“He was such a good football coach and so smart about football and a lot of things, you knew he was on a track if he got the chance and opportunity,” Harris said.

Everybody knows everybody in coaching.





It’s amazing how offended I was when I read the word “Negro.” Thankfully that word has been stigmatized by society. And trust me, I am the least politically correct person you’ll ever meet.

Comment by Justin 09.20.13 @ 8:07 am

^Agreed

Comment by Atlanta Panther 09.20.13 @ 8:20 am

So we not only integrated college football in North Carolina, playing Duke in 1950, but we also integrated the Sugar Bowl in 1956 I think against Georgia Tech.

For those 2 reasons alone PITT needs to be restored to our proper & rightful position among the Top Programs of College Football.

And we need a movie or two about our place in helping integrate college football and sports in general.

Can you imagine what a movie or two like that would do for our national image and our recruiting.

HTP !

Comment by EMel 09.20.13 @ 9:04 am

When we talk Pitt football history us Pitt fans love to talk about all the amazing players that have been associated with the University and their success here and later professionally. This morning Johny Majors was on the radio and was singing the Pitt Fight song and it occurred to me that Pitt’s coaching legacy might even be more impressive than that. Pop Warner, Sutherland, Ditka , and Majors’ staff add up to a chapter in coaching who’s who for instance. The ACC basketball coaching legends as an example aren’t anymore impressive than the Pitt football coaching history. Sometimes we forget how much we bring to the table.

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 9:19 am

Then we couldn’t Hackett anymore.
Go HCPC.

Comment by Tackle made by Hugh 09.20.13 @ 11:40 am

Sorry I missed that, I would have loved to hear ole Johnny singing.

Yep we have some of the greatest history in college football history. Don’t for the other JM, John Michelosen who guided us to the 1956 Sugar Bowl and of course the other JS, Jackie Sherrill, 2nd best winning % of all Pitt Head Coaches, all time I believe. Behind only the legendary Jock Sutherland.

We need to get back to our former glory !!!

Comment by EMel 09.20.13 @ 11:45 am

Emel, Weren’t Jimmy Johnson, Dave Wannstead and a bunch of other guys on Majors’ staff ?

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 11:48 am

Pitts,”Long’ John Woodruff, integrated the Nazis in the 1936 Olympics.

Comment by alcofan 09.20.13 @ 11:53 am

Btw someone mentioned the ACC Digital Network announcers who did the PITT/NMU game last week.

The play by play guy was Steve Martin, longtime announcer for first the Charlotte Hornets and now the Charlotte Bobcats of the NBA(although they’re supposed to go back to Hornets). Steve is an excellent announcer and has no southern accent at all. In fact he’s about as ‘yankee’ as one can get, being born in Maine. And he went to the University of Maine. lol

Not much of NBA anymore but he made the games more exciting. An excellent play by play announcer.

Comment by EMel 09.20.13 @ 11:54 am

@ spirit

Wanny was on Major’s National Championship staff.

Jimmy Johnson, John Fox, Pat Jones, Foge and a whole slew of other coaches who also went on to become Head Coaches were on Jackie Sherrill’s staff.

Comment by EMel 09.20.13 @ 11:57 am

Emel, Schottenheimer played for Michelson and Joe Shmidt coached Dick Lebeau in Detroit.

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 12:09 pm

spirit22

Yea our coaching trees are absolutely amazing.

I forgot former PITT All-American LB Joe Schmidt was HC of the Detroit Lions in the 60’s. Joe is featured in one of the better sports-football movies of all-time, Paper Lion with Alan Alda.

link to imdb.com

Marty Schott is another one from tiny Ft. Cherry HS in Wash. County.

Comment by EMel 09.20.13 @ 12:20 pm

Raliegh Durham is definitely “Diet South” these days. It’s a more progressive, intelligent and educated than a lot of the South. I was expecting some of those awkward moments of conversing with natives dropping some racist remarks and me as a white dude from the north not knowing how respond to that, or even respond at all. Those moments never happened. I didn’t really see many Confederate battle flags either. Very pleasantly surprised during my time in the area (looking for a job down there again). Much better living than NJ. Goddamn I hate this shithole.

When I lived in Raleigh, and then over in Carrboro, I knew more people from the North than from North Carolina. I had to get DirecTV so I could watch the Jets bumble around the field for 16 weeks. Eventually we had to get 3 TVs in the living room because we had Giants, Jets, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Browns, and even two Seahawks fans invading the house each week.

Comment by Chris 09.20.13 @ 12:23 pm

Woodruff was also a Tuskegee Airman. I believe he was a Capt.

Comment by Nick 09.20.13 @ 12:28 pm

Emel, It’s not my tree that is amazing it’s the Pitt tree. Sometimes we lose sight of how impressive our football history is. Basketball pales in comparison. Doc Carlson Pitt’s most famous basketball coach played football under Sutherland as an example.

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 12:31 pm

Emel, Wow! Lombardi, Lem Barney, and Night Train Lane were in that flick too.

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 1:03 pm

Nick and Alfocan, Thanks I had never heard of Woodruff.

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 1:04 pm

Pitt, like most institutions academic or otherwise, has had its share of problems in the race relations department, but our alma mater graduated its first black student in 1893. Think about that. It really is incredible. Especially considering my dad’s high school in NC was burned to the ground in 1935 because the locals didn’t want any educated black men around.

Thank goodness my grandparents were able to move the family to Philly after that.

Our University is well rounded and truly remarkable in its achievements athletically, academically and socially.

#H2Pitt

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 09.20.13 @ 1:10 pm

For those of us who think merely winning will fill seats, this is from the ACC Blog on ESPN.com:

“Without many big opponents coming to Tallahassee, filling Doak Campbell Stadium has been a problem for Florida State.”

Comment by Pitt Dad 09.20.13 @ 1:29 pm

I think that one of the top social achievements of all time and certainly in the 20th century happened at Pitt. Kids today don’t even know who he is but Jonas Salk did more for children than anyone I can think of. I was about 6 years old when I got vaccinated. My mother cried as I got the shot. When I asked her why she said, “because now I don’t have to live with the fear that you kids will get polio.” Since it doesn’t happen now people forget, but iron lungs and metal braces were very common in the 50’s. That was a hideous evil disease that preyed on innocent children and the people like Salk that cured it are some of Gods best efforts in my book. He refused to be enriched for his work. What a gift Jonas Salk was to mankind. What an example of what men can be at their best.I am so proud that it was done here. They did it so well a lot of young people don’t even know it happened and that is a shame.HTP

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 1:45 pm

Nice story, spirit.

This is the best blog in the galaxy.

Hail to Pitt!

(I am reminded of my learning from interactions with the few African American students in Tower B during the early 60s. Great guys who took their minority status in stride.)

Comment by steve1 09.20.13 @ 4:24 pm

Steve and from a few parties I remember played their stereos real loud.

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.20.13 @ 4:30 pm

Remember when the Four Tops played at the watchamacallit across 5th Ave?

A great day for all colors.

Comment by steve1 09.20.13 @ 5:39 pm

These stories are why I read this blog multiple times per day. I know very little about our history compared to a lot of you here. Getting the blanks filled in makes my love of Pitt football and Pitt sports that much greater.

Comment by panther94 09.20.13 @ 7:45 pm

Guys – the Blather truly is one of the best sports Blogs on the internet and that is a result of the care and feeding Chas Rich puts into it.

I’ll say this about Chas; he finds people who genuinely care about PITT football but who also aren’t so enamored with it that they can’t be critical when it is appropriate. That isn’t necessarily an easy thing to do. Plus, and not to be too self centered, the writers on here are actually adept at putting their thoughts into words that are understandable.

When you read the articles on here you don’t have to wonder what the writer means and you don’t feel like you are reading a fifth grade primer. Chas also arranges for his writers to have pretty extensive access to the football program with press passes and the ability to watch practices, scrimmages and camps closely and converse with the people who actually make up PITT football. That in itself is a huge advantage The Blather has over other sports blogs. Instead of a ‘drive-by’ article we see in so many other blogs The Blather is more like an online magazine.

I loved writing for the Blather and think that I’ll take it up again as soon as things calm down a bit for me. I’ve just been 100% cleared to donate my kidney to my next door neighbor, after what seemed like a hundred different medical and mental health tests, so we’ll have that surgery sometime in late Oct or early Nov (a weird story in itself how it all shook out for the transplant to be given the OK sign). After that is done I’ll have a lot of free time not being allowed to do anything or go anywhere so I’ll chip in a few more articles. To be honest I miss it and miss generating the good conversations we get into.

By that time we’ll all have a somewhat firm idea of what we have as a PITT football team this season and it will be fun to argue about the direction we are heading. Obviously some of my recent comments are of article length so why not throw them up as such, eh?

I’ll be off line for this game and the next so keep up the good fight guys and here’s hoping we’ll be 3-1 after the UVA game…

Comment by Reed 09.21.13 @ 4:20 am

Jesus H. Christ, you are one gem of a “next door neighbor” Reed. Best of health to you and your kidney recipient. Heal quickly, we need you back on the Blather soon.

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.21.13 @ 7:21 am

Reed, I’ll have a moment for you and your neighbor, and be looking forward to your return. best wishes.

Comment by spiritofsection 22 09.21.13 @ 8:48 am

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