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June 13, 2013

Okay, this seems to be a procedural snafu, but it put a scare into me when I saw the headline screaming of failing to appear for a hearing.

Two men who were members of the University of Pittsburgh football team when police said they were caught with drug paraphernalia failed to appear in court for their preliminary hearings this morning.

One of them, Khanyin Mosley-Smith, 21, came to city court later this afternoon with a letter confirming that he had performed community service and will have his charge dismissed, according to Mike Manko, a spokesman for the Allegheny County district attorney’s office.

The other, Eric Williams, 20, did not show and was held for trial in Common Pleas Court, Mr. Manko said.

So missing the hearing, not a big deal since the matter was all resolved. No real harm or foul there.

Whether he gets back on the squad this year — or next — is still an open question. He is still suspended indefinitely.

For the sake of K.K. Smith’s future, I hope that he is permitted to return to the team, with a life lesson learned. “You will be judged by the company that you keep”.

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.13.13 @ 7:47 am

Wasn’t expecting to see Pitt mentioned in this article about college football schedules, but hey, there we are at #40!–forty-strong–observations-and-declarations-about-college-football-s-schedules–165918363.html

Comment by JCE 06.13.13 @ 8:03 am

Chris Peak of Rivals/Pantherlair putting the cabosh on any negative comments. Only koolaid drinkers are permitted to post! smh Glad I dropped my membership there long ago.

Comment by Pitt.Dan83 06.13.13 @ 8:47 am

Since I can’t honestly remember the last time any good news was written about Pitt FB, here is an excerpt from PG’s Mike White article today about the upcoming Bigg 33 game:

Leftwich is one of nine WPIAL players on the Pennsylvania roster. Clairton’s Tyler Boyd, another WPIAL player, also has been very impressive in practices, according to Walker. Boyd is a highly-touted Pitt recruit who is playing receiver. He played in Class A, the smallest classification in Pennsylvania.

“Tyler Boyd is definitely the real deal,” Walker said. “It doesn’t matter if he’s from Class A or AA. He’s smooth, he’s a good athlete, he’s a worker and he’s coachable. There’s no superstar attitude from him and it doesn’t matter that he’s going against future Division I cornerbacks from [Class AAAA] high schools. He’s as good as them. He has already proven himself to be a very good player. Pitt is getting a good one there.”

Comment by wbb 06.13.13 @ 9:42 am

Six Pitt recruits on PA Big 33 roster and one on the Maryland Roster.

Comment by pitt1972 06.13.13 @ 10:27 am

I, for one, applaud the decision to drop the charges against K.K. Smith. Since he completed his community service assignment it should be a GIVEN that he be reinstated on the Pitt grid squad. After all, if a person’s intentions are worthy and the coaches are reasonable why not extend a helping hand? Even if that individual is from the University of Pittsburgh and not Notre Dame or Penn State. Welcome home, K.K.! Rev.George from Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 06.13.13 @ 10:30 am

“Pittsburgh’s inspirational bid for a fourth straight BBVA Compass Bowl appearance begins…” Pat Forde Yahoo Sports

If I were Paul Chryst, this would be motivational material to post in the lockerroom.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.13.13 @ 10:38 am

Good to hear about Boyd impressing at Big 33 practice. Not surprised.

Still say you’re going to see him getting some carries out of the backfield in special situations.

Comment by PittofDreams 06.13.13 @ 10:42 am

I think that Nordy should have posted that on Pedersen’s wall … except that he probably doesn’t know that part of an AD’s jbo is to lobby for the better bowl

Comment by wbb 06.13.13 @ 10:42 am

Now that is funny POD (compass bowl)
Here is a quote from San Antonio Popovich on why he likes foreign players over US players.
A lot of truth by Pop.

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich says foreign players are “fundamentally harder working than most American kids.”

This work ethic is a result of many factors, perhaps none more important than the development systems in foreign countries:

“…when Pop looks at American talent he sees many players who “have been coddled since eighth, ninth, 10th grade by various factions or groups of people. But the foreign kids don’t live with that. So they don’t feel entitled,” he says, noting how many clubs work on fundamentals in two-a-day practices, each lasting up to three hours. “Now, you can’t paint it with too wide of a brush, but in general, that’s a fact.”

Comment by Pitt.Dan83 06.13.13 @ 11:02 am

The headline could have been worded differently. The PG is bitter towards Pitt!

Comment by pittbluegold 06.13.13 @ 11:21 am

If the charges are dropped by law enforcement and KK has completed community service then it would make no sense and be totally unfair on PC’s part to not reinstate him to the team. IF PC requires some form of mea culpa, like KK addressing his teamates in person, or even more community service, or whatever that is fine and his perogative. But, it seems unfair to force KK off the team permanently if he’s paid his debt to society as well as his debt to the team.

Comment by Taxing Matters 06.13.13 @ 11:34 am

Agree…I think Mosley-Smith should immediately be reinstated so he can practice this summer, have him sit out the first game against FSU, and then the issue is over. The Pittsburgh Police do not exactly favor Pitt’s players. If what he received was community service, then what he was accused of must have been very minor. I am not one for seeing scholarship athletes get any kind of special treatment, and that cuts both ways. Just because he is on scholarship does not mean the university should punish him any more than they would a member of the marching band that has a music scholarship if they get arrested. For what it is worth, I am also a person that believes the penalties should be much higher than they are for people that are destroying lives and communities with things like heroin, meth, and crack. If the police had charged him with possession or distribution of heroin, that is different story. Yes, it is very bad that he associated with people who are involved in despicable industry. But, we don’t know how involved he was, and it appears the police did not think he was involved at all.

Comment by HbgFrank 06.13.13 @ 12:00 pm


I saw the same and laughed…he must have Borghetti paying his salary…

speaking of, its so funny that an industry of stalking 15, 16 and 17 year old boys has evolved to what it is..i suppose i appreciate the info, but its still funny

Comment by yup 06.13.13 @ 12:55 pm

The charges against Eric Williams were also dropped after he appeared in court today.

Comment by PatMac 06.13.13 @ 3:28 pm

Ref: K.K.
I wholly agree with comments posted by
Dr. Tom 06.13.13 @ 7:47 am
Rev. George Mehaffey 06.13.13 @ 10:30 am
Taxing Matters 06.13.13 @ 11:34 am

And esp., very well stated, by you:
HbgFrank 06.13.13 @ 12:00 p

I cannot argue, either, that there is good in
“Eric Williams [charges] were also dropped after he appeared in court today.”
Comment by PatMac 06.13.13 @ 3:28 pm

I cannot deny that I thought Williams was culpable to some degree. But evidently, the law saw it differently as initially reported.


Comment by Neil 06.13.13 @ 4:55 pm

So, why is Williams kicked off the team and KK just suspended??

Chryst is going to have a problem if he is not consistent with his discipline.

Comment by Pitt.Dan83 06.13.13 @ 5:37 pm

New recruit

Shane Roy

Comment by Frank MD 06.13.13 @ 7:07 pm

jeter lost he wont be comeing to pitt unless
he pays his own way.

Comment by FRANKCAN 06.13.13 @ 7:52 pm

Frank MD were did you get info i went to pitt
recruiting sites they have nothing abought
roy then i went to dockish nothing abought roy
then pitt 247 nothing then the trib and post nothing abought roy comeing to pitt

pitt offered but did not see him commit were is the info please i cant find it.

Comment by FRANKCAN 06.13.13 @ 7:59 pm

Agree with Williams comment above. If the charges were dropped, than it appears the two of them were guilty by associating with a problem. Now, there could be other reasons for not bringing the kids back. My sense is that there may have been some testing involved, and if all clear, than okay to be on team. That, and of course, fulfilling all the community work.

Will be interesting to watch how that plays out. Williams had a lot of snaps heading his way and seriously, with some good effort and results, was positioning himself with a chance at the next level. Did he stay in school?

Comment by dhuffdaddy 06.13.13 @ 8:00 pm

Nice little article found by bleacher report on new Pitt transfer from Wisconsin… Pgh player Reggie Mitchell… speaks very highly of his abilities.

link to

Comment by Pittscript 06.13.13 @ 9:25 pm

I went to espn fb recruiting and looked up PITT

Comment by Frank MD 06.13.13 @ 9:45 pm

Frank MD panther lair and the outher sites still have us at one commit. but we will see what happens
tomarrow if they are still at one i would say
that was a miss print.

Comment by FRANKCAN 06.13.13 @ 11:01 pm

Eric Williams accused but now charges dropped. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR HCPC! How can he stand by his initial knee jerk reaction for Williams dismissal from the team when the charges don’t stand up in court?

This is a kid’s education/football future that we’re talking about here and it is absolutely imperative that consistancy in the head coach’s actions come through loud and clear, also.

Based on previous instances, Paul Chryst tends to be closed mouthed regarding such circumstances. However I think that he has to be open to reconsideration of William’s situation and do a good PR job in explaining his final decision, even if it nothing more than sticking to his initial dismissal from the team.

Chyrst must be asking himself, right about now, “why did I want to become a college football head coach again”??? Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.14.13 @ 7:37 am

Dr Tom – it isn’t a huge deal if Williams has been a problem in earlier incidents whether they were publicly reported or not (and the vast majority of internal discipline isn’t made public). I believe that what we are seeing with Paul Chryst is a widespread purge of players he doesn’t want on the roster when they give him any excuse to be dropped.

I think it is very important to understand that discipline inside the football program should remain separate from whatever the State chooses to do or not do.

You can’t look at our judicial system’s decision making without the understanding that it is based not only on innocence or guilt but also on financial and emotional influences.

It may be that the judges in this case just didn’t feel that it was worth spending the money, time and energy on these charges. That doesn’t lessen the initial actions by the players involved one iota.

That shouldn’t make a bit of difference as to how PITT handles these issues internally… not one bit. PITT should do all the info gathering they can from the judicial system then do some on their own and make a completely separate decision as to discipline.

Comment by Reed 06.15.13 @ 8:08 am

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