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April 30, 2013

Tuesdays are a bad day right now. The schedule has me away from a computer from the time I take the kids to school until sometime after I get the kids to bed.

Seems I missed a few things.

The unsurprising first. A couple players dismissed from the team in light of recent activities at their apartment.

Juniors Drew Carswell and Eric Williams are now gone from the team. The third player suspended in the incident, Khaynin Mosley-Smith, remains suspended indefinitely.

“We have strict and clear standards regarding these types of behaviors,” Chryst said in a statement released on Friday afternoon. “What has occurred with these three young men does not represent the standards of our program or university.”

I don’t know why Mosley-Smith was not dismissed from the team. It doesn’t mean he won’t be, but his status may be a little more gray. I have a speculation, but I don’t know if it is so.

When the police were ready to move in with their search warrant, Mosley-Smith was leaving the place.

Police obtained a search warrant for the house, and as they prepared to enter, a man identified as Khaynin Mosley-Smith, 21, left the house.

Mosley-Smith, a member of the Pitt football team, told police that he lived there.

When police searched the home early Friday, they found drug packaging material and paraphernalia. Also inside were Pitt players Eric Williams, 20, and Andrew Carswell, 21. Police found a digital scale with white residue in Carswell’s bedroom.

It is hard to believe he didn’t know who Reed-Young was and what he did. But, it could very well be that he wanted nothing to do with the activities of the drug dealer Carswell brought to their place. Which would explain why he was leaving the place after 1 am on a Thrusday night/Friday morning. Or at least it’s possible.

So his situation is still unclear. My guess is, Chryst and the Pitt administration are trying to determine whether suspension or dismissal would be best in his case.

That was not the case with Williams and (especially) Carswell. They were inside with the dealer. They were apparently cool with him setting up shop in their place.

But, wait. There’s more.

Freshman quarterback Tra’von Chapman faces a pretrial hearing May 28 in Portage County, Ohio, on misdemeanor assault and unlawful restraint charges, according to court records.

Kent police say Chapman, 18, pulled the hair of a female and grabbed her around the neck Friday night, “leaving marks,” a criminal complaint states.

Chapman pleaded not guilty Tuesday at an arraignment in municipal court in Kent. His father, Thad Jemison, posted $1,150 bond, and Tra’von Chapman was released. A condition of his bond is that he have no contact with the alleged victim.

Chapman has been — to no one’s surprise — suspended indefinitely. The alleged assault took place at his home in Kent.

What a frickin’ unbelievable time. I’m not to the point where I’m under a table clutching a bottle of bourbon. But the bottle is on the table talking to me.

Pitt is finally getting to stability at the conference level. The revenues from media contracts are about to jump tremendously. And yet, it feels like complete chaos.

Law of averages says we’re due for some good luck.

Comment by alcofan 04.30.13 @ 10:05 pm

it is what it is a curse put on pitt bye a vile

Comment by FRANKCAN 04.30.13 @ 10:21 pm

Too bad that Chapman was not good enough for the SEC where he would have fit in better.

Comment by move on 04.30.13 @ 10:34 pm

“It feels like complete chaos.” Yepper.

Chapman is the icing on the cake because in a million years I would be willing to bet that nobody who visits this thread saw this type of behavior coming….WOW!!

The basketball situation is almost beyond chaos with Jamie badly needing an assistant who can help him recruit…at the rate we are going walk ons will be our bench.

I have to believe that Chancellor Nordenberg is not in a very good frame of mind these days…and I truly believe that Smiling Stevie is now skating on VERY thin ice.

Comment by isnore 04.30.13 @ 11:05 pm

Well what we will find out is:

just how deep this friendship/fraternity is between Smiling Boy and Nordy.

Cause somebody has to go and it can’t be Chryst.

Comment by EMel 04.30.13 @ 11:45 pm

I don’t believe John Wooden, Adolph Rupp, Bobby Knight, Dean Smith, Al McGuire, Digger Phelps, Rollie Masimino, John Thompson, Louie Carneseca, Jack Kraft, Dave Gavett, Frank McGuire,
Ray Meyer, Hank Iba, Don Haskins, Lou Henson, Lefty Dresell, Roy Williams, Billy Donavan, Rick Pitino nor even John Calipari have EVER gotten a 10 year contract extension.

It’s unheard of !!!

Comment by EMel 04.30.13 @ 11:51 pm

It shows you what kind of society we live in today. Coaches at every level have to deal with kids/adults who assault women, use drugs, etc. It’s a shame. We even had a coach who assaulted a woman. WOW!

Comment by gdodson 05.01.13 @ 5:51 am


Does anyone remember the lifetime contract given to
FB coach Mike Gottfried??

Wonder if PC thinks about the opportunity at Wisconcin?

Negative pub sucks however similar situations exist across the
country. Improved pre-screening process will help on a go forward basis. In the meantime we are mired in mediocrity and doomed to 500 records. Painful.

Comment by JR 05.01.13 @ 6:00 am

Next Headline: PC resigns.

Comment by DC33 05.01.13 @ 7:30 am

Emel, your extension comment is ridiculous and so wrong. First, most of the coaches you listed are pretty old so they coached when the NCAA was a lot different. And of the current coaches you listed, Rick Pitino signed a 10-year extension last year. Roy Williams signed a contract in 2011 to make him a coach through 2018. Billy Donovan signed a 6 year-extension. John Calipari’s initial contract was for 8 years. Shaka Smart just signed a 10-year extension. Steve Alford, who isn’t close to Dixon’s level signed a 7 year deal with UCLA after signing a 10-year extension with New Mexico. There a lot more that I could list too. And USC offered Dixon a 10-year deal. That’s not unheard of. That’s more like standard business practice.

Comment by Wardapalooza 05.01.13 @ 7:32 am

Internet always lights up over a rush to judge, but often the holier than thou’s have it wrong. Can I remind some of you of the Duke lacrosse case? The most similar case is the LB at Ohio State last year. Suspended because the girl friend claimed she “tripped” and physical contact was made…two months later she admitted she was lying and dropped the case. Worst case of cops gone wild and overzealous media was at GA Tech 7 or 8 years ago. A senior player was suspended on a false rape charge. It was finally cleared up when the liar admitted she was mad about a break up and claimed rape, only to drop it when pending evidence was going to expose her. Meanwhile, season over, last season gone.

Some of you are quick to blame Chryst, which you can do only over time if he recruits thugs or doesn’t discipline for legit cases.

Mark Richt, Urban Meyer, and a bunch of others have rap sheets large enough to fill a phone book, and conveniently suspend players for the first game, usually against a nobody opponent, or if the offender is a third stringer act tough and free up a scholarship.

I am going to wait on the facts and not tar Chapman until facts come out. If you’ve ever watched “cops” you know anytime a woman even makes a claim they arrest now and figure if the guy is innocent it will be cleared up in the courts.

Too much missing information and so far Chryst is following the right path on righting our ship. He has my support.

Comment by TheCat 05.01.13 @ 8:06 am

The Chryst message is being delivered about behaviour…Shape up or ship OUT! I have no expectation that this behaviour will ever be completely abated by young immature premaddona athletes. Our program must be consistent and fair. My only hope and expectation is that these cases are reduced in number. Sooner or later the player culture on the team will weed out the bad apples by itself.

Comment by barreman 05.01.13 @ 8:11 am

Ward the coaches you mentioned are studs except Alford. Praise him all you want Dixon is setting up for a disaster next year. No way shape or form he can go .500 in the ACC.

Comment by Upittbaseball 05.01.13 @ 8:19 am

10 year contracts for everyone!!

We all know how rock solid those coaches contracts are, I think they’re written in chalk?

Comment by Coach Ditka 05.01.13 @ 8:27 am

The AD fired Wanny because of the off field problems. He blew 2 searches which created more instability and his new hire is having similar problems. ( although seems to be taking them head on)
The AD has destroyed the football program. We need to get this A Hole out of Oakland.

Comment by Kevin 05.01.13 @ 8:33 am

EMEL I do not think anyone in their right mind is going to consider Dixon in the same coaching circles as Pitino, Williams,Donovan, or Calipari’s.

Comment by pittisit 05.01.13 @ 8:34 am

You only get fired for “off the field issues” when you’re a loser…thus why wanny was shown the door. Unfortunately the great Steve Pederson and the keystone cops blew the search by hiring two ass clowns.

Comment by Coach Ditka 05.01.13 @ 8:40 am

Funny thing about Wanny being termed a loser — he a fired after the best 3 year run that Pitt had since the early 80s.

What upset me the most is that it was apparent the the AD had no plan or replacement in mind when he let Wanny go .. which was apparent within the 1st week. The 2 people he originally contacted (Holgerson and Golden) were already taken, and the next 2 (Graham and Sumlin) were making much more money than he was offering. In other words, he made the VERY SAME MISTAKE that got him fired at Nebraska.

Chancelor Nordenberg … you do realize, sir, that the important task that an D1 AD has is to hire a good football coach who was at least better than the one who was fired, don’t you?

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 9:02 am

@Upittbaseball, ACC??? We’re gonna be lucky to go .500 against the 10 rent-a-wins!!

Comment by Dan 05.01.13 @ 9:17 am

If it wasn’t for the Wannstedt/Fraud guys causing issues I think the Chapman story wouldn’t be as devastating to fans. It’s just bad timing. Bad timing like Adams going pro right after the Shell situation.

We do have too many problem players on the football team. There was never any evidence Chapman was one of them. It just sucks that it happened now.

Comment by Justin 05.01.13 @ 9:29 am

Dave Wannstedt… below average coach… above average recruiter… out of work if it wasn’t for a little help from his friends.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.13 @ 9:39 am

As for Chapman… really disappointing.

He was made out to be a high character kid with all the intangibles of great leadership.

Regardless if the charges are dismissed… don’t know how they can possibly keep him in light of the Haywood fiasco.

Calling Arizona.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.13 @ 9:44 am

Some girls like having their hair pulled and hands around their neck!

Sorry, just trying to infuse some humor today!

Comment by Dan 72 05.01.13 @ 10:11 am

It’s funny the stigma certain coaches have. Wanny is still termes as a loser and Fraud (although a fraud) wasn’t termed as such.

– note that in the 3 years prior to Wanny’s firing/ Fraud’s hiring. Wanny has slightly better record playing in the BE than Graham in CUSA

– Wanny was ridiculed endlessly here for losing close games, punting on the plus side of the field, and calling unnessary, premature time outs. Yet, all 3 of these three were very prevalent in Graham’s year here. (and at least Wanny didn’t pull hamstring running down the field and taking one of thos timeouts.)

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 10:27 am

Who said Graham did anything great while at Pitt?

Again… VaTech, Temple, Rutgers and Notre Dame last year were all total-team performances that neither Graham or Wannstedt would have been able to muster with the same group of players.

As for Wannstedt… take away one player named McCoy… and the record looks quite a bit different.

NO win at WVU… NO win at ND… just to name two.

Oh, and no contract extension.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.13 @ 10:52 am

what kind of reasoning is ‘take away one player named McCoy’? And how do you know what would have happened if Graham or Wanny caoached last year?

Just another reach by the anti-Wanny bias here …. don’t let the facts get in the way of your opinions

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 10:57 am

and btw, Wanny did win at ND and at WVU … with a natural freshman QB!

again, don’t let the facts get in your way!!

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 10:59 am

At least Wanny could get players like McCoy. We have no one near that talent level.

Comment by Upittbaseball 05.01.13 @ 11:15 am

wbb… How exactly does a “natural” freshman compare to an “unnatural” one?

If you’re referring to Bostick, then thanks for reminding me.

Didn’t Pat Bostick have at least two more come-from-behind wins than Tino?

In that case, let me rephrase…

As for Wannsetedt… take away one player named McCoy and any quarterback NOT named Tino… and the record looks quite a bit different.

NO win at WVU… NO win at ND… just to name two.

Thanks for helping me get the facts straight.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.13 @ 11:23 am

I’m not sure I can respond to your (pretzel) ‘logic’ …. since I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
And since you brought up the name Tino .. please note that the alleged non-offensive coach won 8 games with Tino in his very first year as starter. But the the following 2 alleged offensive gurus only won 6 …. and please don’t tell me the BE was better the past 2 years.

For the 3rd straigh time …. DON’T LET THE FACTS….

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 11:39 am

AND btw, take away a guy named Brady and a QB not named Gino … then Bellechick is just an average coach

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 11:42 am

correction: take away a guy named Brady and a QB not named ‘Vinny” ….

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 11:48 am

Has anybody else noticed that the previous discussions revolving around the bloted incoming Freshman recruiting class that we have and the associated hand wringing about “how in the world” are we going to free up enough scholarships to accomadate them all and still comply with the 85 scholarship maximum has totally EVAPORATED!!!

Just making lemonaid out of lemons here. BTW, Chapman pleaded NOT GUILTY. I don’t know if anyone on this thread has ever been falsely accussed of something, but it a very disheartening feeling to know that your innocent of wrong doing when otherswith nothing more than their own opinion to offer, have already passed judgement in the court of public opinion. FYI, people have been known to lie from time to time. Maybe it is Chapman doing it, maybe the woman involved is the liar. Could be a combination of “all of the above”. The world is a complicated place, let things come out in the wash before judgement is passed on this one just yet.

Comment by Dr. Tom 05.01.13 @ 11:53 am

Looks like HCPC is clearing out the riff raff with the help of the Pittsburgh Police. Better days and high character guys are ahead.

Comment by Houston Panther 05.01.13 @ 4:03 pm

with the exception of defensive tackles where there is not much depth

Comment by wbb 05.01.13 @ 5:38 pm

Hey look at it this way boys. We now have anywhere from 2-5 open scholarships available to go after some key JUCOs to help out immediately.


Comment by Pitt it IS 05.02.13 @ 12:53 pm

How do we PITT fans overlook the fact that both Walt Harris and DW were fired after having a string of winning years when that accomplishment has been in very short supply over the course of the last 30 years for PITT?

Would any other team in the same class as PITT fire those guys based on their W/L records alone? No they wouldn’t. They had to be an outside catalyst involved in these two guys dismissal.

PITT hadn’t had any whiff of championship ball since Sherrill left in the early ’80s and yet we kept coaches employed who did way worse than either Harris or DW. Then, however, all of a sudden we are asked to believe that PITT did a 180 and fired those HCs due to lack of championships? Even after they both gave us the best football we’ve had in decades?

See that bridge over there? Yours for $1000 dollars.

Comment by Reed 05.03.13 @ 6:50 am

There are a lot of bridges over there. I believe Pitt has the right guy with PC just wait next year might be more of the same but let some of his true recruits get in to the rotation and see how the quick acc defenses like getting run over

Comment by Dacs 05.04.13 @ 11:20 pm

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