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March 1, 2013

Link Through, 3/1

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 8:15 am

Oh, god. It’s the end of conference play. Big East Tourney — for the final time — looms. Then seeding and the actual NCAA Tournament. Spring practice for football starts on Tuesday. The kids start going a little crazier as Spring Break gets closer. Traveling at the end of the month. Add in doubling the off-line workload. I’ve already got a pile of links and less and less time to filter.

Time to clear the excess basketball stuff.

Hey, Ron Cook had another radio topic column on Pitt. This one on how the losses in the NCAA Tournament bug Jamie Dixon, but he is proud of what these teams keep accomplishing.

Joe Starkey with his own topic for the radio his column, on figuring out Pitt. Have you seen the rest of college basketball this year? Pitt is hardly the only top-25 quality team, heading to  the NCAA Tournament with some headscratching losses, inconsistent play/effort, and has the pundits and fans absolutely unsure what will happen in March. I realize it isn’t something we’ve seen much from Pitt in the last ten years, but it is far more common than some seem to realize.

It’s not been the best year at the Pete for big wins. Outside of Syracuse, there really are none of note. Instead, a bunch of painful losses — Cinci, Marquette and ND. Thankfully, Pitt has done well on the road.

Prior to the past two wins, Kevin Gorman had a piece on why there is no need to panic with Pitt‘s prior two-game losing streak.

This might be a good time to remind you that prior to the defeats at Marquette and against Notre Dame, Pitt had won seven of its past eight games.

The Panthers have reached the 20-win milestone and need one victory in their final four games — against St. John’s, USF, Villanova and DePaul — to clinch a .500 Big East record.

The lapses in defense and rebounding against Marquette and Notre Dame should be alarming, given that those are the hallmarks of Pitt basketball. And Dixon has harped on their importance, to the point of sounding like a broken record.

Dixon also has been adept at playing to the Panthers’ strengths and identifying and correcting their weaknesses.

This might be a good time to remind you that Pitt also lost its first two games in Big East play, to Cincinnati and Rutgers. The Panthers were outrebounded, by five and 12, and allowed an average of 68.5 points, 13.3 above their opponents’ average this season.

There was concern they could be headed for another disappointing campaign, after finishing 16-15 in the regular season and missing the NCAA Tournament for the first time under Dixon in 2011-12.

This might be a good time to remind you that Pitt won eight of its next 10. That included road victories at Georgetown and Cincinnati and a home win over Syracuse, at the time respectively ranked Nos. 19, 17 and 6 in the national polls.

I say, embrace the panic. Every game is a referendum on whether Dixon can win in March. Every shot determines whether a player sucks or not, and how many more scorers are needed. Every defensive stand determines how much more athletic the team needs to get.

Moving on.

One 0f the reasons Pitt’s offense can look so bad. I mean aside from the frontcourt collectively managing to miss water falling out of a boat. It’s when the shot selection goes south.

“There are times we’ve taken some bad shots and times we’ve passed up some shots,” Dixon said. “It’s a balance. There are times when passing up a shot to take a tougher shot is what we want to avoid. We’ve done that for the most part. We’ve done a pretty good job, but we’ve had some setbacks in that area at different times, even when we’ve shot high percentages and had great offensive outings.”

Junior forward Lamar Patterson was the player most guilty of passing up good shots to make an extra pass against Notre Dame. He continually had open 3-pointers and either made a pass on the perimeter or threw an ill-advised pass into the post. The usually efficient Patterson had a most inefficient game: two points on 1-of-5 shooting, 1 assist and 1 turnover.

Patterson is the team’s top scorer in Big East games, but teammates who average half as many points were the ones taking more shots against the Irish. Reserve guard Cameron Wright was 2 for 6 from the field. James Robinson and J.J. Moore took as many shots as Patterson, also going 1 for 5.

“We have to make better decisions,” Moore said. “I took some ill-advised shots. That led to some rebounds and buckets for them. We can’t take bad shots and we have to take good shots so we can put some points on the board. We have to learn from it and go onto the next one.”

We’ll see how long that lesson holds.

It’s a little late to start worrying about the “go-to” guy for offense. If you are looking to see Pitt shorten the bench, keep waiting. The most that happens is the minutes shrink for certain players. But expect everyone to keep playing.

During games, James Robinson’s inability to score can be glaring. But Coach Dixon is happy with the rest of his game. Especially on defense.

Before shutting down Collins, Robinson held Syracuse’s Brandon Triche and St. John’s D’Angelo Harrison to a combined 5 of 26 from the floor. Add Collins’ 2 for 8, and the trio shot 20.6 percent (7 for 34) in three Pitt victories.

Robinson hasn’t been perfect, struggling against Marquette’s Vander Blue (13 of 20, 29 points in two games) and Providence’s Bryce Cotton (9 of 16, 24). But when Robinson shuts down the opponent’s best guard, Pitt usually wins.

“The defending part of it, he’s picked it up to a high level early in the freshman year,” Dixon said. “That’s rare. He has good size, good athletic ability and smarts. He takes pride in what he is doing defensively.”

So about this “freelance” offense. Not so much freelance as just a variation on the motion offense. Somewhat surprisingly it sprang from conversations with a guy more associated with defense.

The “just-play” mentality was born out of offseason conversations Dixon had with former Pitt coach and longtime NBA assistant Tim Grgurich, now employed as a consultant with the Denver Nuggets. Grgurich was Pitt’s coach from 1975-80.

“I’ve been using that term ‘play basketball’ or ‘just play’ ” Dixon said. “That was a term [Grgurich] kept using. I’ve never used it before, but I’ve been using it a lot this year. It’s part of our package anyway, but we went with it permanently with about 16 minutes left in the second half and said this is what we’re doing all the way through. I didn’t want them thinking about things. We wanted more movement. It flowed a little better. Most importantly, we got more movement.”

Whether the Panthers run the motion offense or set plays might be a secondary issue because Dixon said the lesson from the South Florida game was the better ball movement.

The motion initiated better ball movement, but it does not appear Dixon is convinced better ball movement cannot be achieved when he calls set plays.

It worked against South Florida because the Bulls wanted to play a low-scoring, low-possession game. Dixon countered by instructing his players to push the tempo after every defensive stop. If a good shot was not found in transition, the players began to quickly move the ball in the half-court because they were not looking to the bench for set plays.

Dixon hinted that the motion offense could be more of an option when the sets are not working.

Grgurich was more known nationally for being the assistant to Jerry Tarkanian when UNLV was a force in the 80s. Grgurich was considered the brains behind the amoeba defense they played.

I would say the right players need to be out there for this iteration of a motion offense to run. Guys who are better able to drive to the basket with and without the ball. Who play better when they move more. Guys like  Zeigler, Wright, Moore and Johnson would fit the style better. Robinson and Patterson not so much.





FWIW (and you know I don’t think it’s worth much), Jerry Palm at CBSsports.com now has Pitt as a 6 seed in the East (Washington DC) bracket playing Boise State in Lexington KY for the right to play the winner of Florida/Davidson.

Top 4 in the bracket are Michigan State, Duke, Florida and Syracuse.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 9:29 am

It wouldn’t be a bad bottom half of a bracket.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 9:32 am

Long time Pitt assistant coach Fran Webster was the brains behind the Amoeba Defense.He was an assistant under Buzz Riddle and Grgurich.He invented it and wrote a book on it.The Amoeba was in place at Pitt before Grgurich arrived and he took it to UNLV but was by no means the brains behind the Amoeba.Webster played in the NBA in its infancy and was a great two hand set shot era shooter.Very intelegent man and very respected defensive authority.Grgrich waqs a dynamite recruiter but uses his name and brains in the same swentence is a stretch.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 9:43 am

Grgurich was a dynamite recruiter but was never in my recollection considered a real bright guy.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 9:46 am

spiritof22, you are correct sir! Fran Webster, who followed Ridl from Westminster, conceived the Ameoba defense

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 9:53 am

I should have said Webster came with Ridl from Westminster

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 9:54 am

Spirit, Tim Grgurich ran the practices for Jerry Tartanian at UNLV and taught them how to play defense. Prior to his coming to Las Vegas, the UNLV Rebels couldn’t defend at all. Grgurich was an important part of those great UNLV teams.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.13 @ 10:31 am

just, I had season tickets right behind the Pitt bench when Grg coached and he was no brainiac.Fran Webster on the other hand was brilliant and if he hadn’t suffered from near blindness would have been very successful in coaching.His defensive schemes were years ahead of the times and it amazes me when recruiting stars get credit for strategies they barely understood let alone invented.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 10:53 am

Lunardi now also has us as a 6 seed in East (Washington DC) playing Akron in Dayton (how is that even reasonable) for the right to play the winner of Florida/Valpo.

Top 4 in the bracket are Miami, Michigan State, Florida and Syracuse.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 10:58 am

Justinian, to follow-up on your point that UNLV had no defense prior to Gurich bringing the Ameoba .. I saw a Steel Bowl game between UNLV and Syracuse circa ’76 when I never had heard of Tark or Boeheim that was the highest scoring game I ever witnessed live … believe both teams reached the 90s (not sure.) Can’t remember who won but do remember Reggie Theus played for UNLV.

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 11:03 am

Here is the obit for Coach Webster. I was right in the 1st place – he followed Ridl by 1 year from Westminster. Note that he was also the tennis coach at Pitt while also being an asst BB coach … boy have things changed!

http://old.post-gazette.com/obituaries/20030107webster0107p2.asp

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 11:20 am

Though it is way too early for any accurate estimates of who will play who and where,history tells us we are likely to get disrespected.Loved to see the Dukies get kicked around a bit last night and had to laugh when the ESPN shills all were crying for poor coach K this morning.I don’t remember them being half as bothered when our assistant coach took a thrown quarter to the head at West Virginia.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 11:22 am

Didn’t Donatas Zavakas (sp?) get punched at Syracuse back in circa 03 when the Cuse fans rushed the court 3 times within a space of 5 minutes?

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 11:31 am

I’d be surprised if Zavackas didn’t get punched by one of his own teammates.

Comment by JW 03.01.13 @ 11:35 am

Wonder whatever happened to Donatas? He had a pretty good career and kind of ruined it when he gave up and took his shoes off.

Comment by gc 03.01.13 @ 11:35 am

By the way, if that is a sexy older woman, I really have been missing out.

Comment by gc 03.01.13 @ 11:37 am

I wanted to punch him and Howland when he took his shoes off and pouted on the bench in the sweet 16 game.In four decades of watching college hoops I have never seen anything more stupid happen in a game.I still blame Howland for losing controll of that team.Before the UCLA rumors started they were special.He stole their chance by pulling the carpet out from under them right as they were ready to take the next step.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 11:39 am

jw, loved the own teamates line.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 11:41 am

Donatas is playing in Latvia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donatas_Zavackas

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 11:45 am

@ spirit, the sad fact is, that although Pitt has been an elite team in BE play for a decade, they always seem to falter in the NCAAs. So getting dissed in the seeding has kind of been earned by the Panthers.

I would love to see SOMEBODY, ANYBODY come forward in the next few weeks with a step up in their game, that has here to fore not been seen. Dante Taylor did this for a flash in the pan moment in our last victory. In any case, we need to have all 10 come ready to play this year, because if they continue to screw around in the first halves of their Tourney games, like they have tended to do in the regular season, I could easily see us heading home after our second game.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.01.13 @ 11:48 am

doc,If there is a second game.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 11:50 am

@ gc, I was thinking the same thing. I floss my teeth with thicker stuff than that swimsuit is made out of. LOL

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.01.13 @ 11:50 am

@spiritos22

Yes we were very close to immediately becoming an elite team back then, I can still see Zavackas on the bench with his shoes off.

Now it seems like the mole hill that the Final 4 was back then, has turned into a Mountain.

And we never got any more players from Latvia.

Comment by EMel 03.01.13 @ 11:59 am

@Emel – to be fair to Latvia, Donatas was from Lithuania.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 12:05 pm

Having a rough day at work and picturing Donatas taking his shoes off and pounting put a big smile on my face. What a crap way to go out.

Comment by AJ 03.01.13 @ 12:06 pm

I kind of wish Tino would have taken his shoes off during the third quarater of the Ole Miss game rather than throwing a TD to Shanny.

Comment by AJ 03.01.13 @ 12:08 pm

Grgurich recruiter??? Couldn’t sign Larry Anderson and it cost him his job.

Comment by alcofan 03.01.13 @ 12:15 pm

Now I get it….
Sexy older woman.

Comment by xfmrman 03.01.13 @ 12:19 pm

wbb, yes before Tim Grgurich joined Tartanian’s UNLV staff they were just run and gun. They won a national championship with him there and they should have won two.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.13 @ 12:25 pm

Don’t look now but UCLA is ahead of Arizona in the Pac 12.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.13 @ 12:26 pm

lol My apologies to Lithuania.

We never got anymore players from there either :-(

Comment by EMel 03.01.13 @ 12:30 pm

so will Luke Walton call for Sean’s firing?

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 12:30 pm

Maybe she’s 30, so she would be considered “older” to some of our current PITT students, lol

Comment by EMel 03.01.13 @ 12:31 pm

just to give you an idea of how much influence Duke and Coach K wield in the ACC

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9002769/acc-address-issue-court-storming

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 12:33 pm

Lithuanians and Latvians are so huge physically due to the fact, the ferocious Vikings of the middle ages landed there, liked the girls so much, a bunch of them decided to stay.

Therefore the history lesson learned here is:

when you domesticate a Viking, you get pretty good basketball players. :-)

Comment by EMel 03.01.13 @ 12:35 pm

Gurgs use to run the 1-3-1 trap predominately when he coached.

Pitt’s 1974 Elite 8 team played the Amoeba.

Would have made the Final 4 had we not played eventual National Champion NC State on their Home Court. What a farce that was !

Comment by EMel 03.01.13 @ 12:38 pm

Emel, as I recall, NC State never left its own state in March.

That includes a 2 pt victory over Maryland (Len Elmore, Jon Rivers, Tom McMilen) in the ACC final, the regional vs Pitt, the national semi-final (OT win over Bill Walton and uCLA), and the final (over Maurice lucas and Marquette)

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 12:44 pm

anyone have an idea of how big east seeding will be for pitt

Comment by paul shannon 03.01.13 @ 1:07 pm

Outside chance at a 4 seed, double bye. They need to win out, have Syracuse lose 2 and ND to lose 1.

Most likely a 5 or 6 seed. Which means they would get a bye and play in second round against a bottom four team, a winner of a first round game.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.13 @ 1:15 pm

Sorry – ND needs to lose 2, Syracuse 1. Brain cramp.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.13 @ 1:58 pm

Consider Woodall at PG turnovers would be doubled. Robinson not scoring is compensated by Woodall’s worth 8 to 10 point fast breaks on turnovers for the other team.
It is time to stop overlooking Adams. Without him in the lane Pitt would be going back to the CB(?) tournament.
In March cannot aford to have him play less than 30 minutes. Also it is time to help his confidence by telling him we depend on you yourt ready and the shackles are taken off. If you miss a shot or make a mistake you are not comint to the bench.
Finally have 2 games to play Taylor at least 10 minutes each game at the four. Have Adams face up an use his european game.

Comment by pittisit 03.01.13 @ 2:06 pm

Sunday is important for three reasons: First, this team needs to win games and gain confidence from winning games because at this time of year, if you lose, you go home.
Second, we owe Villanova an ass kicking on the way out the door.
Third, wins later in the season mean more on selection Sunday.

Comment by sfpitt 03.01.13 @ 2:07 pm

Grgurich quit because he was offered peanuts to continue coaching here.

Something like 25K.

Comment by steve1 03.01.13 @ 2:10 pm

I think there is some merit in the concept that on offense Jamie is too predictible and restrictive. This in by opinion the reason for the slow offense devlopment of Adams. The man who made Noels look like a fool is playing in a box afraid to make a mistake and end up sending half the game on the bench with 2 fouls while Dante Taylor plays the five and the opposition starts attacking board, like last year, and gets back into the game.
Funny Pitt will run out early in the game Adams will sit for his hockey rotation and Pitt will go into intermission 2points up.
I have said it before I think Dixon is stripping the confidence from this kid while he thinks he is helping bring him along slow.
Consider his stats at Kentucky with better players and 30 minutes playing time.
Kentucky would be a contender in March.

Comment by pittisit 03.01.13 @ 2:18 pm

One could argue that Dixon’s use of Adams, inarguably the center with the “highest ceiling” in college basketball will be viewed by top recruits another reason to play somewhere else.

Comment by pittisit 03.01.13 @ 2:24 pm

Woodall only averages 2 turnovers per game whil Robinson averages one. However, Robinson never takes risks … he rarely penetrates and mainly dribbles and passes on the perimeter (a la Ashton Gibbs.) I’m not saying there is no value in that but I’m convinced he would not be playing nearly so much if not for his defense.

Comment by wbb 03.01.13 @ 2:30 pm

When Tray Woodall is not on the floor the Pitt offense isn’t as good. I think Robinson has done a great job, especially in that he’s a freshman, but he’s not an offensive threat.

Comment by Justinian 03.01.13 @ 2:37 pm

We need UConn to lose Saturday to Cincy. Also, Arizona is playing UCLA on Saturday…..GO ZONA!

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.13 @ 2:44 pm

Pittsit, I think people could make that argument, I also think it is wrong. Pitt plays two centers, if you look back, thats how things have pretty much always worked. Zanna and McGee, Young and Blair… if anything recruits should WANT to get in on the action because it is clearly a need which could ensure playing time for the Biggs of the world.

Comment by Benzene 03.01.13 @ 2:47 pm

Pittisit, you are a broken record. Adams, Adams, Adams. Dixon sucks with talent. What shackles are on Adams at this point? And you act like Adams hasn’t been getting a lot of minutes. In the past month 7 out of last 8 games he has gotten over 20 minutes. Last game he was in foul trouble in the first half and in the second half Dante was rolling. But yeah sit Taylor because Adams needs minutes. With 4 games of 26 minutes or more. Also what was funny, I actually watched the game against South Florida and the offense looked more stagnant when they were trying to force it into Adams early. I mean why do you even bother being a Pitt fan if they do so much wrong?

Comment by Wardapalooza 03.01.13 @ 2:52 pm

Adams at this point in the season isn’t going to improve much with more minutes. Taylor is playing well this year and it’s his last year here.

He needs some post season experience to end some of the jitters he still gets though. Adams mostly needs the off season to work on his offense and to get stronger in the weight room….he isn’t going to get that with more minutes.

Comment by Jackagain 03.01.13 @ 3:00 pm

Adams was making steady improvement right up until the Marquette game. Progression with young bigs is rarely so linear. It is certainly possible for him to improve over the next three weeks. A less structured, motion offense could be exactly what he needs.

Regardless, his defense and rebounding should keep him on the floor for 25+ minutes. If Jamie needs an offensive spark or if Adams gets in foul trouble, Sleepy is ready. Center play is lower on the list of problems.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.01.13 @ 3:37 pm

Jackagain

Why do we need Unconn to lose, as they do not qualify for post season play?

Comment by Hail2Pitt 03.01.13 @ 3:45 pm

I appreciate the background check on Zavakas,for some reason I remembered him as Polish.I blamed Howland as much as Zavakas.I have never witnessed a coach in the sweet 16 have a player throw a temper tantrum of that magnitude.It isn’t fun to lose,but to have the whole country see how stupid and undisciplined our team appeared was embarassing.I still resent both of these bozos.To make matters worse until the news hit that UCLA was getting Howland that team seemed to have the most perfect chemistry of any Pitt team ever.In fact the only thing I don’t care for about Jamie Dixon is his constant endorsing nature towards his mentor.I respect it ,understand it,and tolerate it,but to me Howland smells of and like Zavakas’feet.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 3:49 pm

I don’t know that there is much likelyhood of improvement from this point forward.Other than maybe Zanna regaining a little confidence or Adams doing a little better from the foul line I think what we have been seeing is pretty close to what we will see going forward.I had hopes before the two most recent losses that Pitt’s best games lied ahead of us but I think it more likely now that the Syracuse and Georgetown games are likely this teams high water marks.I really thought Adams could carry us to another level this year but if he could we will never know because it looks pretty obvious that Dixon isn’t looking to put him in that position.If he gets a foul he gets yanked and we certainly don’t go out of our way to get him the ball.I am glad the brace is finally off his hand.When is Jamie going to remove the one on his head.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 4:07 pm

I stopped posting after Reed insulted me, but I still read regularly. I have reached the point where I now scroll to filter my time (always stop to read Chas’ responses; Dan, Dr. Tom and Rev; fast forward and ignore Emel and all the other spam). Anyway, a business trip means I can’t make Sunday. I have 4 (2 and 2) plus one parking pass for a dedicated blaterite (free but you have to pick up in Cranberry tonite or tomorrow). let me know if interested

Comment by wally 03.01.13 @ 4:37 pm

For those of you who can’t suffer enough, Pitt-Butler (2011) is number 60 in ESPN.com’s top 75 NCAA tournament moments.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 4:42 pm

@Wally
Hopefully your reading this…I must be one you pass over.
But I would love to go to the game on Sunday. Cranberry is easy for me.

Comment by sfpitt 03.01.13 @ 4:44 pm

And Scottie Reynold’s floater is number 36.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.01.13 @ 4:45 pm

Wally, where and when, I can meet any time in Cranberry. Sorry that you quit posting. All viewpoints except for trolls should be appreciated. Otherwise there is no give and take. Very boring.

Comment by gc 03.01.13 @ 4:49 pm

SF, if you only need 2 let me know.

Comment by gc 03.01.13 @ 4:50 pm

I only need 2.

Comment by sfpitt 03.01.13 @ 4:54 pm

Is there anyone currently in the Big East, that Pitt would NOT want to play in the BET?

Let me put it another way-can Pitt beat Louisville and/or Marquette? Could we beat Georgetown or Syracuse again?

Comment by Lou 03.01.13 @ 5:45 pm

Don’t want to see Marquette again,love our chances with Georgetown and the Ville,prefer not to have to play the Orange.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.01.13 @ 5:56 pm

Lou, only team don’t want to play is ND. That style ND is horrible. Pitt sucks against it.

Comment by Wardapalooza 03.01.13 @ 6:27 pm

GC and SF, sounds like two winners to me. You guys work it out. I will be at Cranberry Primanti’s (next to Hampton Inn) at noon with Pitt garb on at the bar with your tickets. Flip a coin on the parking pass. HTP.

Comment by wally 03.01.13 @ 6:57 pm

See you there Wally. GC can have the parking pass.
Thanks!!

Comment by SFPitt 03.01.13 @ 7:04 pm

Thanks Wally and SF, see you there.

Comment by gc 03.01.13 @ 7:18 pm

@wally

Sorry bud, maybe my posts are too long for you or to thought provoking. :-)

I will try to be more conforming just for you !
haha

Comment by EMel 03.02.13 @ 12:50 am

Never did like ppl from Cranberry. lol

(joke)

Comment by EMel 03.02.13 @ 12:51 am

Adams isn’t progressing that fast, and if one remembers Sleepy sort of topped out at 5-6 ppg and 5-6 rpg, I think his Sophomore year. Whether it was due to injuries(due to weight gain), playing out of position, lack of talent, his shoes were tied improperly (see Wooden) or whatever, that’s what happened to him.

Adam’s is a Euro type bigman and imo he’s not a big plodding Center, he’s a 4 who can run, dribble, face up and score on mid range jumpers.
Probably long range as well, but we probably won’t see that aspect of his game until he reaches the NBA.
So until he’s put in his natural position, he will continue to struggle.

Just like Sleepy has struggled for his whole career.

Two square pegs forced into Round Holes.

Comment by EMel 03.02.13 @ 1:01 am

oh and I do think Adams has progressed defensively, just not much offensively.

Comment by EMel 03.02.13 @ 1:03 am

If I recall, ND most clogged the middle on defense-if Pitt can’t challenge that and hit outside shots, forcing defenders outside, we won’t beat the Irish.

Comment by Lou 03.02.13 @ 9:00 am

Emel ,Somebody has to play center.You could make a case that most successful centers could play strong forward.It doesn’t mean everybody is being forced to do something they aren’t designed to be able to do.Your analogy doesn’t work for me.I never skip your posts though.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.02.13 @ 9:48 am

There were no games yesterday that affected Pitt’s RPI.

Here are today’s games:

Lehigh (NR) over Army (Lehigh should be favored)
Cincinnati (-6.5) over Connecticut
Duquesne (+16.5) over La Salle
Detroit (-5.5) over Illinois-Chicago
Marquette (-7) over Notre Dame
Delaware (-1,5) over George Mason
Mount St. Mary’s (NR) over Fairleigh Dickinson (The Mount should win)
Kennesaw State (NR) over Florida Gulf Coast (Long shot)
Bethune-Cookman (NR) over Norfolk State (Not likely)
Oakland (-7.5) IPFW
Fordham (+14.5) over Saint Joseph’s
North Florida (NR) over Lipscomb (Should be close)

Comment by xfmrman 03.02.13 @ 11:26 am

@Hail2Pitt it doesn’t matter for the BE Tournament but it does matter in the final standings in Pitt’s last year in the BE.

Believe it or not, UConn still could have won the BE regular season title if they had the best record.

Comment by Jackagain 03.02.13 @ 1:28 pm

Few thoughts. Pitt win last 2 games. ND lose today and at Louisville and Syracuse lose at Georgetown and Pitt in 4th place for BE tourney.

In my opinion WVU FB team last year was best team in many years but move to B12 cost them BCS game as they would have won BE.

Comment by Frank MD 03.02.13 @ 3:09 pm

Frank,I think Pitt wins tie breaker with the Orange no matter the outcome of the Georgetown game.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.02.13 @ 3:17 pm

Dixon needs to become a better coach for this team to make some noise this year and be a legit top 10 team next year. JD is a very good & honorable man, he’s an above average coach. If he adjusts he’ll take the program further. It should be more complex than just running sets, should also be about making the other team uncomfortable, rattling them, taking away their strengths, forcing them into their weakness. That’s precisely why Brey like a Donkey owns us, he outwits Dixon.

He relies on what he knows and that’s good enough to beat better teams in BE or NCAA. This year’s team can run, let them break. Any doubt that Adams can throw a 25 foot outlet on a rope to Robinson? Moore & Zanna are built to run. That may actually be Zanna’s only redeeming quality and there’s plenty of fresh legs to keep it up.

Adams and Taylor need to play together in half court game. It absolutely will create for most teams uncomfortable matchups.

I never called for another coach, I’m just sick of seeing Pitt under perform. Dixon needs to change his thinking. I was in Dayton, just before tip with ETSU JD looked too anxious to make good decisions.Never saw a caoch that ashen. Week later he didn’t call time out when Jermain was about to get trapped by Nova. From where I sat I could see it coming. I was among 10 or so Pitt fans screaming for him to pull the kids on Brown’s 2nd free throw against Butler. Strictly sound basketball move that high school coaches make.

In spite of our weaknesses this team can make a lot of people uncomfortable and make a lot noise if Dixon breaks his own imposed limitations.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.02.13 @ 5:24 pm

I was thinking that the BE might go by rankings for the tourney in which case Syracuse wins.

Comment by Frank MD 03.02.13 @ 8:12 pm

Adams injured his ankle today at practice .. some Pitt students saw him leaving the Pete on crutches .. status for tomorrow is unknown …

Comment by Hoopzebra 03.02.13 @ 10:29 pm

Oh no!

Comment by xfmrman 03.02.13 @ 11:04 pm

Here are the results of Saturday’s games that have bearing on Pitt’s status on “Selection Sunday”. Hard to believe that it is only 8 days away.

*(108)Lehigh 81 (214)Army 75
*(51)Cincinnati 61 (33)Connecticut 56
(215)Duquesne 64 (35)La Salle 97
*(61)Detroit 79 (152)Illinois-Chicago 67
*(13)Marquette 72 (45)ND 64
*(139)Delaware 82 (157)George Mason 77
*(159)Mount St. Mary’s 103 (289)Fairleigh Dickinson 82
(341)Kennesaw State 49 (103)Florida Gulf Coast 67
(278)Bethune-Cookman 61 (177)Norfolk State 62
(113)Oakland 72 (280)IPFW 74
(229)Fordham 56 (85)Saint Joseph’s 82
*(231)North Florida 85 (221)Lipscomb 78

*Indicates a result that should help Pitt’s RPI.

Comment by xfmrman 03.02.13 @ 11:22 pm

Pitt two steps closer to double bye. Need to win today and ND to lose next week.

Looks like they’ll need to win today without Adams. Chance for Sleepy to go out a hero. Or more likely, put the icing on a disappointing cake with a mediocre performance.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 03.03.13 @ 8:32 am

Other than (44) Pitt (-9.5) beating ‘Nova this afternoon, there are only 2 games that could matter a week from today.

(193)DePaul (+4.5) over (139)South Florida
(11)Michigan (-4.5) over (8)Michigan State

Pitt’s early season cupcakes have hurt them over the last week. Pitt’s RPI has dropped from 37 to 44 since the USF game.

Comment by xfmrman 03.03.13 @ 9:12 am

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