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February 13, 2013

There is still so much for the splintering Big East to resolve. There’s no shortage of rumors and reports of how the Big Priest portion would love to be split in time for the 2013 season. That, however, seems to be an impossibility. From setting up a new conference — hiring people, finding a commissioner, getting NCAA recognition for an auto bid to the NCAA Tournament, and so forth — to the very thorny issue of the money reserves in the Big East — all the exit fees, NCAA Tournament units particularly.

Then there is the issue of poaching programs from other conferences to get to a 10-12 team conference.

[Outgoing Xavier AD Mike] Bobinski said if Xavier receives the expected offer from the departing Big East schools to become one of its new members then it would have to listen. It would be situation where there were like-minded schools with a common purpose. He also said that 2014 would be more realistic for any movement while 2013 could be a bit rushed, although everything is negotiable. He didn’t say Xavier would definitely leave, but it sure sounded like the Musketeers have given this a lot of thought and are likely gone if asked, whenever that occurs. Xavier and Butler are expected to be first up on the docket to join Georgetown, Marquette, DePaul, St. John’s, Villanova, Seton Hall and Providence — with the choice for a 10th or possibly 11th or 12th coming from a pool of Creighton (MVC), Dayton, Richmond, VCU and Saint Louis (all A-10).

Sorry, Duquesne.

There is no question that teams in the A-10 or MVC would jump. The A-10 TV deal gives each member $400,000/year. The Big Priest conference is looking at a deal that is anywhere from $3-4 million per year.

Sources say that Fox, whose Fox Sports 1 channel is set to launch in August, has an initial high offer on the table of more than $500 million for a 12-year deal. Fox Sports 1 will replace the network’s motorsports channel Speed, already in 81 million homes. Sources say officials with Fox are scheduled to meet with those representing the interest of the “Catholic 7″ in New York City on Wednesday. A Fox spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment. A high-ranking source at NBC Sports Network, which has so far engaged in preliminary discussions with the “Catholic 7,” declined comment. ESPN spokesman Josh Krulewitz also declined comment on the network’s interest in the “Catholic 7″ games.

But the television deal is said to be far along. In fact, before the non-football schools left the Big East, sources say the presidents knew they’d be better off leaving. That’s because Jordan Bazant, the main partner of New York-based The Legacy Agency, which represents Fox broadcasters including Troy Aikman, Chris Myers and Daryl “Moose” Johnston, already had helped bring Fox to the table. Representatives of St. John’s and Georgetown took the lead in those early discussions.

And yes, the core group of the Big Priest is looking to keep a larger cut of the TV money than the teams they bring in.

As for the UConn, Cinci, USF and the others to be called up from C-USA. Welcome to hell.

Two people familiar with the deal say the Big East is closing in on a six-year contract with NBC Sports Network for football and basketball rights that will pay the conference about $20 million per year.

The people spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because negotiations weren’t being made public.

One person said the deal would likely be announced within the next two weeks. The Big East first has to go through the process of allowing ESPN, which currently holds the conference’s football TV rights, to match the offer.

The Big East’s current football deal with ESPN expires after the 2013 season and has paid football members about $3.1 million per year. The deal in the works would pay members about $2 million per year, depending upon whether the league has 11 or 12 members.

Same as the old hell.

For UCF, it’s an especially disappointing revelation. The program was hoping to take a major step in its growth, especially financially, from moving to the Big East. Now, they will be making only a small amount more than what they earned in Conference USA.

According to most reports, the C-USA deal paid an average of $1.17 million to member schools.

For UConn, USF and Cinci, this is a big step back. They actually lose TV money. Plus see the Big Priest getting more for just one sport. About the only potential upside is the hope that as the primary piece for NBC’s sports network, they will get heavy promotion on NBC itself (assuming NBC is smart enough to follow the ESPN/ABC model).

Basically NBC had no competition for the TV rights. Fox and ESPN have little interest or need. For whatever reason, CBS still has little interest in bidding for regular season college sports beyond its small basketball deal and its SEC football contract. You would think, they would also need more live content, but they just aren’t willing to do do so.

As much as ESPN takes the blame for their role in expansiopocolypse and the demise of the Big East with regards to Pitt and Syracuse leaving for the ACC, a real case is made that the utter destruction of the Big East is by the hands of Fox.

Fox is a 51% owner of the Big Ten Network. The grabbing of Rutgers and Maryland was all about TV markets. That was a big benefit to Fox. And it hurt ESPN in that respect. The loss of Rutgers and then Louisville when the ACC took them to replace Maryland was killer for the Big East and spiked the west coast grab of Boise St. and SDSU.

Then there is the very clear overpayment for the Big Priest. And the fact that they had been in negotiations before the split.

Do you see what occurred here if this is true?  Fox approached the Catholic 7 before they split off, which means it’s not so crazy that Fox wanted them to split off.  So, if you believe that Fox is overpaying for the Catholic 7, then you might be right.  However, the point is that Fox needed to overpay the Catholic 7 in order to serve as a catalyst for them to split off.  If Fox just merely offered “fair market value” to the Catholic 7, then they likely would have stayed in the hybrid.  (Anyone that thought that the Catholic 7 would have split off without the knowledge that they’d be getting paid more compared to staying in the hybrid Big East isn’t thinking straight.)  There needed to be an extraordinary financial windfall from Fox in order for the Catholic 7 to take the extraordinary step of splitting off from the Big East football schools.  As a result, it’s almost pointless to try to compare the on-the-court basketball quality of the Catholic 7 versus the New Big East.  The amounts that are being offered by Fox to the Catholic 7 reflect a “blood money” premium offer that they couldn’t refuse, whereas the Big East isn’t going to garner any premium at all and will be subject to the “normal” market forces in play.

Why? The same reason that the Big East first began with ESPN all those years ago. The network needs content. Fox is aggressive in wanting to compete with ESPN. Moreso than NBC. Fox has fall content with playoff baseball, NASCAR, college football via Big 12 and Pac-12. But it needs winter programming in some volume, i.e., college basketball.

That makes too much sense, because it isn’t for the ratings. College basketball in the regular season is just a blip even when ESPN hypes it.

Of the 316 games on CBS, ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU through last Sunday, only 26 earned at least a 1.0 U.S. rating. Keep in mind this does not include the December 29 Kentucky/Louisville game on CBS, which would likely bring the total to 27.

A 1.0 rating, is roughly around 1.5 million TVs. ESPN still makes its money. Not on the one game, but on the volume of games. Spread those games over the multiple networks and loyal sports fans need to have all their networks to ensure they see their team.

College football makes the money for ESPN more heavily on advertising revenue. College basketball keeps the money flowing with the cable subscription fees.





Great piece Chas, especially the last bit about the networks’ influence.

Comment by PantherP 02.13.13 @ 9:52 am

what is a pisser is you could say there are better
BB teams in the big east football schools then
in the catholic 7
and why brake them up they could have had both
football and the 7 for say 4 mill per year
that is the part i dont get.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.13.13 @ 10:03 am

very good piece. Great read.

Glad we are in the ACC.

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 02.13.13 @ 11:44 am

How is it possible that a network will spend $41+ mil on Big Priest bball rights? I get the need to fill dead air/infomercial time with actually programming to justify the cost to the carriers, but how can that be profitable? I suspect Fox is just tryin to juice the bidding to get the Worldwide Leader to overpay on the significantly smaller amount that deal should command.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 02.13.13 @ 11:51 am

that’s $41+ mil/season

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 02.13.13 @ 11:52 am

At some point this cable TV bubble is going to burst. And when it does, there is going to be a trememdous shakeup in the industry. There are already ways around cable/fiber optics – google, etc. And someday cable may end up going al la carte. I will be the first one to cancel the Big10 network on my cable bill.

Comment by rayhpgh 02.13.13 @ 12:02 pm

rayhpgh how true if you could do with out sports
you can get netflix with moves and tv shows
for 42 dollars a month bye the internet on your tv
but no sports which is to bad.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.13.13 @ 1:05 pm

The only thing to cause the cable bubble to burst would be Congressional action. Which may come to be with the continual raising cost of cable. Every major network has a couple of premium cable only offerings. They put their best new offerings there to get you to sign up for another premium channel.

Chas, the Catholic schools had to do what they are doing. They have no interest in football; never did. They put up with it to pacify the big name football schools in the old Big East.

What do the Catholic 7 have in common with SMU, Houston, Memphis,and UCF? There is not even a regional connection. Plus academically they are better off on their own. Basketball is what they do.

Not dividing the money equally for new members will not work out too well.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 02.13.13 @ 1:20 pm

@rayhpgh ..I agree, it has to eventually burst…people are starting to realize they are paying for these sports fees even if they don’t watch a minute of sports.

My neighbor has zero interest in sports but he has basic cable which means he’s paying almost $5 a month for ESPN. $60 bucks a year he’s paying for ESPN so they can pay these huge license fees and he’s never watched a minute of any sport all year.
(I would be pretty pissed if I found out I was paying $60 for the ballet every year.)

It’s getting easier and easier for people who don’t watch sports to get the other shows they want without cable via the internet and it is only going to continue to go that route.

Comment by milobloom 02.13.13 @ 1:49 pm

Yes, excellent analysis Chas. UConn especially is sinking into the abyss.

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 2:28 pm

It goes even deeper than that. For every lame sports network bundled in a package, there’s lifetime, soap network, qvc, holly rollers and a ton of other crap that no one watches or wants. Some of these channels only exist because they get bundled by their parent companies, some of which also own sports networks.

I would SO gladly pay subscription or a la carte for online access to get full access to teams I like in sports I care about. Works well for MLB and NHL, NBA and it used to work well with NCAA men’s hoops until ESPN majorly dialed back on what you could see without an accompanying cable subscription.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 02.13.13 @ 2:30 pm

#1 Thanks for the write-up.

#2 It’s a shame that college athletics/expansion is being driven by TV deals/cable contracts.

#3 Every time I read one of these articles, I thank my lucky stars that Pitt landed in the ACC.

HTP

Comment by pittbluegold 02.13.13 @ 2:58 pm

@rayhpgh, just cut programming from the cable bill yesterday.

Now, that’s extra programming that we realized we never watched, can’t do ala carte cutting, but, none the less, cutting.

I also have noticed, that several channels have been combined. Something called RFD, Blue Highway and another one, combined into one station.

Happened with two others I cannot think of now.

There are now 3 channels that say “unavailable”, because they got lumped into the others.

I have never seen that before. That’s telling me that there are in fact channels that cannot stand alone.

With Iphones and I pads and getting content direct from the tv station, you may not be far off.

We have over 200 hundred channels, and not exaggerating, we watch a total of about 8 or 9.

ESPN, Fox Sports, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX, AMC, and Turner Classic movies. That’s about it.

They start coming out with apps for all of these, cable ala carte may not be far away.

I also believe Google is talking about making tv’s and giving viewers an ala carte menu.

This would indeed have an impact on The Big Ten network, The Longhorn Network, The ACC Network if they proceed with that.

Comment by Dan 02.13.13 @ 3:16 pm

ROOT Sports of course, Panthers and Pens.

I actually could see widdling down to 5.

ESPN, ROOT, Fox Sports, AMC and TCM.

News??? Get most of that online now anyhow.

Comment by Dan 02.13.13 @ 3:21 pm

what about our defensive coordinator?

Comment by goalie44 02.13.13 @ 3:23 pm

A story to tell you all i was at lunch to day
at the old franklin club with the wife.
the two men behind us were talking pitt
basketball.
two outher people stood up to leave and the man with a lady said to the two men yes a great
school but they cant even hire a DC when small schools can.
the two men shock there head yes and said something that i could not hear.

when i left i said to my wife that is what
i had benn saying on line also.

so you see it is not just us who want to know
why we cant hire a dc outhers are also upset.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.13.13 @ 3:36 pm

Please don’t lose any sleep, Frank. We need you fresh.

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 3:48 pm

steve1 i wont but i found it intersting that outhers care as mutch as us.
unless it was one of us.
back to cable try netflix thru the internet it has
more tv shows then you can watch and movies all
for 42 dollars month just no sports all on your
tv and no commericals.

my son has it and it is great.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.13.13 @ 3:57 pm

Dan, can’t wait for cable a la carte. Don’t even know how many channels I watch, I do know that I watch about 10% of them regularly.

The Big Priest as is described above in the first referenced article is actually a pretty attractive league that also includes a lot abig TV markets. It may well work out.

Comment by wbb 02.13.13 @ 3:59 pm

I LOVE Netflix, Frank. I’m on the treadmill for an hour every morning and can watch their content on my 23″ monitor while jogging. Plus I’ve got a Roku to send Netflix content to the main TV.

All for 8 bucks a month. Such a deal, oy vey!

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 4:03 pm

I hope that Noel injury doesn’t get into Adams head…

link to insider.espn.go.com

Comment by Jackagain 02.13.13 @ 4:10 pm

steve1 he does to roku 8 dollrs for netflix the rest of the money is for the internet for a total of 42 i can watch 10 bones in a row or 35 sherlock
holmes in a row if i want it is great.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.13.13 @ 4:23 pm

I hope the Cincinnati Bearcats suffer a long, slow demise. Even though that program has had it’s share of success against us, their athletic department and facilities still reek of a Conference USA school.

In the immortal words of Shooter McGavin – “Go back to your shanties.”

Comment by Flip2Script 02.13.13 @ 4:23 pm

This ruling is going to just kill PSU…..JoePa would have cried if they did this when he was alive.

link to espn.go.com

Must be 30% of his wins :-)

Comment by Jackagain 02.13.13 @ 4:34 pm

jackagain right no more cream puffs for big 10
we should also .
i hate to go to cream puff games if it was up to me i might play a mac school now and then but no more
FCS programs.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.13.13 @ 4:47 pm

@wbb, and back at you with your comment, about the Big Priest league. Actually thing it would be very good.

ATTN: Creighton, Butler, Richmond, Xavier, Dayton et al…..be careful of joining these guys when they say they get a higher percentage of the league money!!!

These guys still don’t get it. Now they want to form a league, but they get to keep more $$$ than the teams they are inviting.

If it comes together, agreed, I’d enjoy watching them greatly.

Comment by Dan 02.13.13 @ 4:49 pm

i wont be watching them what do they have 2 good teams out of 7.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.13.13 @ 5:07 pm

A UConn win tonight and Big East #1 for Pitt will be within grasp.

Comment by milo bloom 02.13.13 @ 5:17 pm

I can watch just about anything I want free online…

Comment by Jackagain 02.13.13 @ 5:18 pm

Big Priest looking at big tv markets for teams without big fanbases. Sure Chicago, Philly, NYC and DC look good on paper, but none of them have significant market share. DC has WAY more UMd fans, and St Johns is not a big deal to most hoop fans in NYC (Syracuse and even Duke are a bigger deal).

Just putting these teams on TV isn’t going to magically make a big fan base appear. College hoop ratings aren’t so big in generally, even when elite teams play. Only the tourney carries any ratings weight. Then again, what do I care if Fox, NBC or ESPN want to piss away $.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 02.13.13 @ 5:25 pm

“It will probably be a good thing for Pitt in a couple of ways if Adams does leave earl,” —Ron Cook.

Hmm, Sleepy is a senior and Adams leaving will leave, uh, no bigs.

Does Ron Cook have a complete brain? His intelligence, marginal at best, leads me to think he has but a brainstem and nothing more. And yet, the Post-Gazette continues to pay him?

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!

Comment by Gas 02.13.13 @ 5:25 pm

I’ll always watch games that involve Georgetown, Villanova and St. Johns. Seton Hall and Marquette I’d watch.

Toss in Xavier, Butler, maybe Richmond, Dayton and VCU.

Good, competiive hoops. No, not ACC or anything, but not a bad league, IMHO.

Hopefully Pitt does not have bad blood with Georgetown and Villanova, would love to have them on our OOC schedule in the future.

Comment by Dan 02.13.13 @ 5:35 pm

It appears to me that if you take the time to carefully read Ron Cook when he writes about Pitt, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that somewhere down deep and dark inside he is the “AntiPitt”

Comment by pittman4ever 02.13.13 @ 5:36 pm

@Jackagain, thing they could make some law or agreement, that BCS conference basketball schools have to have half of their OOC games against other BCS conferences. (you could throw in Mountain West, Conf. USA, and Atlantic 10 too).

That would leave room for 5 Albany’s and Kennesaw States!!! LOL

Comment by Dan 02.13.13 @ 5:38 pm

When did Butler become a Roman school??? They were Disciples of Christ(a la Vanderbilt) last time I looked!! Not sure about Richmond, but I would be surprised. Really surprised !!! But, I agree, the Big Priest League would be formidable with or without those universities. Rev George from Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 02.13.13 @ 5:48 pm

@FRANKCAN, my first thought when I read your post about the comments you overheard at lunch today was that a couple guys on here were punking you!

@Dan, agree Cath 7 still don’t get it, wanting to keep a bigger slice of the TV pie than the schools they will invite. I guess they figure they can pull it off because the invitees will still get a pay raise, but if I’m the X and Butler I play hardball. Without the addition of those two and VCU, the league is much less appealing.

Sadly, just as with some of the conference changes in football, I don’t think actual fan base and TV ratings have much impact on these deals; it’s all about the number of TVs in the market, not the number actually tuned in. TV market size is one thing the Cath 7 have.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.13.13 @ 6:10 pm

a few notes:

1. the Steelers hired a new receivers coach and it wasn’t Bobby Engram

2. Mikayla Christ signed an LOI to play soccer at Pitt. She just led her high school to its 2nd straight Wisc state championship, so glad that she is joining her dad here.

Comment by wbb 02.13.13 @ 7:09 pm

Ron Cook ..anti-Pitt.

Nah….what would lead you to believe that? (sarcasm)

:-)

Comment by EMel 02.13.13 @ 7:47 pm

Oh yea almost forgot,

After any big loss or anything that make PITT looks bad, his article appears on the PG site almost immediately.

And you can tell he took great relish in writing it.

Comment by EMel 02.13.13 @ 7:51 pm

Funny these schmucks at the PG had the biggest EVER child sex abuse/child molestation/multiple boy rape story in the history of the state of Pennsylvania and quite possibly the United States of America, certainly among institutions of higher learning.

And yet they only grudgingly covered it. And to the barest extent they could.

If you wanted some real & extensive coverage of that sordid event you went to Harrisburg’s Patriot News site at http://www.pennlive.com or the Philly Enquirer site.

Cook isn’t a journalist he’s a shill and a booster.

Comment by EMel 02.13.13 @ 7:59 pm

As far as the Catholic 7 moving on.

The way I look at is: we went our way and they are going theirs. So we should just leave it at that.

If one remembers the beginnings of the BigEast, IT WAS A BASKETBALL ONLY LEAGUE and PITT was quite ecstatic it got invited to this league when it did. As was everyone.

So the fact that the core of the original BigEast wants to go back to being a basketball ONLY conference after over 20 years as a hybrid conference should certainly be left up to them.

Just as it was up to us to leave the BigEast.

We should just be thankful to BC’s former AD Gene DiFillipo or we most likely would have been in the same undesirable position as Uconn, USF & Cincinnati. Or be playing basketball games in places like Lubbock, Texas or Ames, Iowa.

And for those of you that don’t know, Boston College is a Catholic school as well.

Comment by EMel 02.13.13 @ 8:16 pm

Syracuse on the ropes at UConn.

Comment by Scott 78 02.13.13 @ 8:38 pm

Why don’t players wear knee pads these days?

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 8:56 pm

We’re 1/2 game out of first.

Comment by Scott 78 02.13.13 @ 8:59 pm

Both UConn and SYR are gassed. Advantage: Pitt

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 8:59 pm

I’m old enough (barely) to remember Al Abrams, and Phil Musick as well as Bruce Keidan …. how Ron Cook has endured as a PG columnist is beyond me. He is not witty, he doesn’t do much research, he is not creative, and his analytical skills are poor as he is almost always wrong about everything he predicts (like Jaimie Dixon is not qualified to be Pitt HC – just one example of several.)

But what galls me the most is when he does a recap of a game, he just tells you everything you already know … doesn’t add a freakin thing!!

Comment by wbb 02.13.13 @ 9:01 pm

If we win out do we win the Big East?

Comment by MikePITT 02.13.13 @ 9:05 pm

UConn took care of Cuse but DePaul couldn’t quite put away Notre Dame.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.13.13 @ 9:12 pm

Was hoping Depaul could do it. That would have helped our cause, I think.

Comment by panther94 02.13.13 @ 9:14 pm

Things are definitely looking good for Pitt. All teams ahead of Pitt in the Big East standings have difficult remaining schedules, while Pitt’s most difficult opponent is Marquette. If Pitt wins out, they could take home the regular season title and a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney. What a turnaround that would be.

Comment by PatMac 02.13.13 @ 9:16 pm

ND always plays us tough. They’ve pretty much had our number, so I fear that game the most of the remaining.

BTW, looks like quick whistles and home cookin’ in Durham. A little scary for what may be in store.

Comment by panther94 02.13.13 @ 9:18 pm

Marquette game, a tipping point.

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 9:19 pm

Mike- Dont want to get too far ahead of ourselves, but the teams ahead of us have tougher schedules by far. Cuse has gtown twice, Louisville and Marquette. Gtown has Cuse twice, Uconn and Cinci. Marquette has us, Cuse and ND.

lets start with revenge at Marquette and see where we go from there.

Comment by dinosaur 71 02.13.13 @ 9:22 pm

Gotta take back the home cookin’ comment. Things are looking like they’re being called fairly since then.

Comment by panther94 02.13.13 @ 9:25 pm

Ron Cook isn’t much of a writer….especially for a guy who went to a good school like Northwestern.
Which explains why he’s such a PSU fan and hates Pitt…

Comment by Jackagain 02.13.13 @ 9:25 pm

What fun it will be to tangle with the Research Triangle gang!

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 9:25 pm

EMel, you say some truths. Anyway all you guys are keeping me younger. Not sure I agree with all, but still lots of fun.

Leave the Catholic schools alone! All they have is basketball.

Yes, Boston College did save our lives. Now we will save theirs. Watch their recruiting improve with closer competition. Sorry we lost Maryland, and Rutgers. I liked the geographic locations.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 02.13.13 @ 9:27 pm

Frankly, OPG, I’d rather be sitting in my armchair in front of the tube than in the scary RAC rafters.

Quality trumps geography, at least for me.

Comment by steve1 02.13.13 @ 9:50 pm

well stated EMel

… now I understand why Cook annoys me so much all of the time!

Comment by Pittscript 02.13.13 @ 10:50 pm

OMG I hope no one havin lunch anywhere in the Burg wearing Pitt gear orders a pitcher of Miller and yells to his buds across the bar, “We got Miller on the Way” cause if FRank overhears that he will crap his britches in anticipation! UPone

Comment by UPone 02.13.13 @ 10:51 pm

Duke without Ryan Kelly is very average.

Comment by Vulcan Rob 02.13.13 @ 11:25 pm

If Carolina makes its free throws, they beat duke.

Comment by Scott 78 02.13.13 @ 11:37 pm

#6 Syracuse goes down to unranked Uconn.

And #11 Butler goes down to unranked Charlotte, formerly UNC-Charlotte or UNCC. Yes the team that had Cornbread Maxwell and made the Final 4 in 1977.

Funny thing Syracuse lost twice in one week to unranked teams (us & Nova) and didn’t drop out of the Top 10. They are fading fast even with Southerland back. Now only have one less loss than us. And as dino mentioned have a very tough schedule to hoe.

We keep winning and who knows PatMac might be right. A conf. championship and another #1 seed.

Just win against Marquette on Saturday, we’ll take it slow & easy , one game at a time.

Appreciate the kind words Old Pitt Grad and Pittscript.

Comment by EMel 02.14.13 @ 2:08 am

A win against Marquette proves to me that this year’s team is peaking at the right time to go deep into the tournament. As Steve1 opined and I agree, Marquette game is the tipping point.

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.14.13 @ 7:45 am

EmeI, I think we’d have to win out the regular season, win the BE Tourney in dominating style-which would include beating Louisville, AND get some help from other teams to be in the #1 seed conversation.

Comment by Lou 02.14.13 @ 8:55 am

On the conference front, don’t think for a minute the shenanigans are over. The Big 12 (10) is in trouble. They are subject to poaching from the PAC 12 and Big Ten (14. Texas and Oklahoma will leave the minute the grass is greaner elsewhere and the next time I believe a conference commish in a public statement will be the first time I do.
That means the Big 12(10) will have to get aggressive in finding new members.
WVUlgar is the test case and the early returns are not good.
Their football attendance will take a big hit in ’13 and their men’s basketball is struggling. Every time they lose Huggins gains 5 pounds and he is huge!
More to the point, the travel issue and dilution of brand name has begun and WVUlgar is the first victim.
So the ACC had better get aggressive and complete their own network deal. Otherwise, this blog will be splattered with “Expansionapolis” stuff ad naseum beginning in June.

Comment by sfpitt 02.15.13 @ 1:03 pm

BTW
there will be alot of open office space open somewhere in Providence…Big East won’t need it and I seriously doubt if The Big Heaven will make the same mistake twice and call Providence home.

Comment by SFPitt 02.15.13 @ 9:46 pm

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