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February 11, 2013

Re-Working Labor Day Plans

Filed under: Football,Schedule — Chas @ 4:38 pm

So, since signing day last week, the reports have flown about Pitt getting Florida State at home on the opening weekend of college football. A marquee game to start Pitt’s time in the ACC. Monday night.

The topic has been bandied about, and strawmen have have been set up to be knocked down in explaining why Pitt should jump at the opportunity.

The Panthers are scheduled to open with Villanova on Aug. 31, but the prospect of a Labor Day visit (two days later) from Florida State recently became viable. To their credit, athletic director Steve Pederson and coach Paul Chryst jumped all over it.

My understanding is that Pederson first was presented with the idea. He approved it but left the decision with Chryst, who immediately and enthusiastically endorsed it.

Unfortunately, some people didn’t, judging from what I saw since the news broke Wednesday.

Usually, it’s the coach who’s paranoid, not the fans. Yet, I keep hearing these concerns: Pitt’s not ready for that kind of challenge so soon. … They couldn’t even beat Youngstown State in last year’s opener. … Remember Wanny’s first game, against Notre Dame? … They could get embarrassed on their home field!

Nothing but fear-based, negative thinking.

My only objection is that it is a Monday night game, and I really don’t know if I can make it for the game. My reasons for hesitating are purely selfish. I want to be there.

Now the real issue in working all of this out is finding a place to move the Villanova game.

There are a lot of moving parts involved, though, and nothing will be finalized until the ACC releases its full conference schedule, which should be some time in the middle of February.

One of the biggest hurdles for Pitt would be rescheduling a season-opening game Aug. 31 against Villanova. If everything falls into place with Florida State, though, a source indicated the Villanova game likely could be moved to later in the season.

Not to mention FSU re-scheduling their 1-AA patsy opener with Wofford.

The question is not simply would Villanova have an open date that matches up with Pitt for later in the year. Nova is only playing an 11 game schedule. With a little help from the ACC, it is very likely Pitt could have a matching open date to reschedule..

I guess my question is, how willing is Villanova to accommodate Pitt?

There’s just a bit of bad blood right now. The whole blocking Nova from moving to Big East football led by Pitt. Pitt leaving for the ACC. The schism of football and basketball at long last in the Big East. Egos and pride might make this a little more difficult.

Maybe it’s as simple as throwing some extra money towards Villanova. Maybe Nova is fine with changing their schedule. So far, no one has heard anything from the Villanova administration. But I can’t help but think that it would be the most Big East basketball thing to have Villanova gum this up as much as possible.

 





I have a feeling that Nova will be making a bit extra money … maybe they could set it aside for building new about 12,000 new seats

Comment by wbb 02.11.13 @ 4:43 pm

It all depends on the DC for me if the DC is house
we will be creamed stomped into the ground.
he would be better playing villanova as his first game.

if we have a real DC who has game experence
then i am all for the FS game as the first game
it would be a great opener
but i dont want to be embarassed if house is the DC it all depend on if we have a real DC or not.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.11.13 @ 4:56 pm

Fans have been complaining about the
schedule for years. Play FSU on Labor
Day! The stadium will be packed and a
national audience will be watching. Glad
PC wants to play the game.

Comment by JR 02.11.13 @ 5:00 pm

What in the world does FRANKCAN have against Coach House, I have NEVER read such negativity. And we get a lot of it from the aforementioned gentkeman who is a habitual BLOGGER!!! Rev. George from Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 02.11.13 @ 5:01 pm

Rev GEORGE MEHAFFEY house has been a db coach
for 1 year do you think that makes him ready to be
a DC .
did you read when chas said dont panic house is just a back up plan would chas say that if house
was a good pick.

so you think he did a good job in the bowl game which we lost and he was acting DC.

he is unqualifed is that enough reason
would you want a unqualifed rev to run your charch.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.11.13 @ 5:15 pm

I would be in favor of playing FSU on Labor Day night. Would be a great start in the ACC to beat them. My only concern is will Pitt have named a DC by then?

Comment by Houston Panther 02.11.13 @ 5:16 pm

Nova will ask for money. Pitt will use the money that could have gone to a new highly qualified DC in order to pay Nova off. That’s when not having a named DC comes back to bite you in the ass.

Comment by TX Panther 02.11.13 @ 5:20 pm

“Nothing but fear-based, negative thinking.”

We’re Pitt football fan, Starkey. What do you expect? It hasn’t exactly been sunshine and daisies rooting for these guys the last 20 years or so.

Comment by Jeff 02.11.13 @ 5:21 pm

Rev George Mehaffey habitual blogger
REV may be i have no one else to talk to did you think of that.
if you dont like what i post dont read it
you are a very mean man for a rev i hope god will forgive you you have become a mean man
and it is not just me that is worryed that it might be house as i said would chas say what he did if he was a good pick and outhers on here dont want him as the DC not just me.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.11.13 @ 5:30 pm

As newspapers around the country get to be more and more pinched, could someone please explain to me why Ron Cook still has a job

Comment by Gas 02.11.13 @ 5:34 pm

Cook and Franco are a match made in Hell. Their continued blind support of Pedo State and Poopy Pants is just CREEPY.

Comment by TX Panther 02.11.13 @ 5:44 pm

This is what we went to the ACC for.

Not even a question, if possible, you play it.

Comment by Dan 02.11.13 @ 5:46 pm

If you want to be the best you have to beat the best. I think it would be great. Lots of exposure no matter what the outcome.
About time. Stand-up.

Comment by frankarms 02.11.13 @ 5:55 pm

FRANKCAN is not being negative one iota.

Coach House is in no way ready or deserving of being named the D.C..

Furthermore, if he is named, it will show a total botch up of the situation by Coach Chryst.

It will show he had his eggs all in one basket, is not willing to interview people that he has not worked for, or both.

If House would happen to be named, it will stand out as he’s the only guy left, so let’s promote him, he’s our only choice.

If Coach Chryst really, really wanted him, why didn’t he name him the DC a month and a half ago???

Also, if his eggs were all in one basket, and House was his 2nd choice, why didn’t he name him in the last week or two, after he found out his first choice wasn’t available?

If House would be named, the smell of desparation will permeate the air, make no mistake.

Hopefully, that rumor was all that it was, a rumor.

Comment by Dan 02.11.13 @ 5:56 pm

“desperate”, sorry, it bugs me.

Comment by Dan 02.11.13 @ 5:59 pm

Pitt’s best chance to beat FSU would be the first game. Once a talented team gets a few games under its belt it is much harder to beat.

Comment by 66Goat 02.11.13 @ 6:25 pm

I think the longer the search goes, the more its likely House will be named. Agreed that House lacks the experience to take over as DC. Now entering the ACC a quality DC is needed more than ever. ask the Hoopies about the D? Spend the money and show you are committed and not just an also ran…

Comment by DJS 02.11.13 @ 6:27 pm

@Justinian, Tennyson quote, Ped State version:

Not tho’ the players knew
…Someone had blundered:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to falsify:
Into Happy Valley
….Rode the six hundred.

Comment by 66Goat 02.11.13 @ 6:31 pm

I’m not going to complain about changing a game to prime time before a national TV audience.
Complaining anyone?
If so, ask UCONN if they want the game.
As far as a DC goes, it would be great to have one. It would be better to have a good one.

Comment by SFPitt 02.11.13 @ 6:43 pm

Rev. George, I happen to side with FRANKCAN on this one but you are still a nice man…

Comment by The Hagen 02.11.13 @ 6:59 pm

Rev George,

Your thoughts are valued as much as frankcan’s are. I agree with you. Coach Chryst has earned enough respect (by staying) that I trust that he is doing his best to get the right guy for DC. The negativity is getting old!

Comment by Jason 02.11.13 @ 6:59 pm

If HCPC wants House, let him teach him (House) up for a couple years under a big-time DC who would probably be moving up (and on) by then. C’mon SP, show us the money!

Comment by CompLit 02.11.13 @ 7:27 pm

Maybe Villanova should play Wofford,

Comment by Palm Beach Panther 02.11.13 @ 7:37 pm

Play the game please, I rather lose to big name schools than beat New Hampshire.

Comment by Moe Greene 02.11.13 @ 8:04 pm

Frankcan and DID!! Thank you for responding. I appreciate a man who will stand up for his convictions. Actually, I did not say Coach House did a good job at the Compass Bowl From whee I sat, NONE of our coaches did!! I’m not saying I prefer House for DC, but I just don;t know where you are coming from in your hostility toward him. The selection, of course, will be made by Coach Chryst. As for me being MEAN??? Ha!! Sometimes yes, sometimes no. like all of us humans. Peace brother and GO PITT!! Rev. George from Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 02.11.13 @ 8:11 pm

Let’s start with the fact that Pitt will never get a first tier DC because we are not willing to pay what it takes. I am concerned that the position has not yet been filled. At this point it just looks bad. A week or so longer without a DC and now you have to wonder if it will impact spring practices. So I feel your pain Frankcan. However, I don’t think the DC is the difference between being blown out or winning against a god team like FSU or any team. That has a lot more to do with the talent of your defense vs the talent of their offense. I think the DC does make a world of difference in close games and in recruiting. Hopefully, PC hires a DC soon and we can all move on to discussing who the starting QB should be!

Comment by HbgFrank 02.11.13 @ 8:44 pm

To step away from the DC issue for a moment, this Marquette team doesn’t look nearly as good as the team we played a month ago. Wonder if they will be playing with a chip on their shoulder Saturday at their place.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.11.13 @ 8:53 pm

INFO for all pitt DC options
college football rumors blog espn
you must be an insider

and i am not if one of you are please go in and find out who the options are and let us all know thank you.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.11.13 @ 8:56 pm

Rev. George….you’re my favorite commenter of all time and the nicest guy I know here. Don’t sweat the banter. This board is typically pretty balanced but I understand your frustration with some who beat the drum a little loud and way too frequently. But, that is the nature of passionate fans at times. Passion is a good thing…

Comment by Charley 02.11.13 @ 8:59 pm

Bless you, Rev. George. You are probably the least mean poster on here. But we all feel your pain, frankcan.

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 02.11.13 @ 9:22 pm

66Goat, You are obviously multi-talented. It unfortunate that Pittblather doesn’t have an award category for the best adapted poetry.

By the way, I had a silver 1966 GTO. It was an absolute beast.

Comment by Justinian 02.11.13 @ 9:29 pm

Pitt Dad, Yes, Marquette does look as good as they looked a month ago and Pitt looks a lot better. Hopefully things will play out that way, when the Panthers travel to Marquette this Saturday.

Comment by Justinian 02.11.13 @ 9:45 pm

Thanks Justinian. My 1966 GTO was yellow with a black top. Everyone should have a car like ours at least once in life.

Comment by 66Goat 02.11.13 @ 9:47 pm

Adams plans have not changed BTW…

“I want to get a ring,” Adams said. “The time will come when [the NBA] will present itself. But I don’t give a crap about that. I’m worried right now about getting to the NCAA tournament and a ring.’

link to espn.go.com

Comment by Jackagain 02.11.13 @ 9:48 pm

The last pope is here soon if you are catholc
and i am not but if you are you know what that means
so we need to win the ncaa soon and go to a big bowl
game soon,.
becuse when the last pope is gone so are we so they
say.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.11.13 @ 9:56 pm

Yeah…if it’s the dawning of the great tribulation and Christ is returning soon, Pitt winning soon is a top priority! LOL

Comment by Jackagain 02.11.13 @ 10:03 pm

I am hoping for nova on the 31st tyat way I don’t have to miss FSU while I am on vacation. Last time I missed a home game on vacation was against Miami..that sure turned out well…

Comment by pendlum 02.11.13 @ 10:05 pm

Maybe the scripture is misspelled. Maybe Chryst is returning.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.11.13 @ 10:09 pm

pitt dad maybe

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.11.13 @ 10:13 pm

I’ll begin believing in this end of the world stuff when I see JoePa riding as one of the four horsemen of the apocolypse.

Comment by TX Panther 02.11.13 @ 10:28 pm

Justinian and 66 – I had a 67, my college roomates had a 66 and 64, every morning we left tread on our way to class…great cars!

HCPC has 3 weeks to get a DC.

Comment by markp 02.11.13 @ 10:31 pm

We need to take stock of the Compass bowl beatdown. We lost to a mediocre SEC team who simply had far superior athletes. Pitt needs big,fast Lb’s & Db’s . DC = 1) Teryl Austin or 2) Tom Bradley !

Comment by ROCKY20 02.11.13 @ 10:49 pm

Being a cleric, I,of course, know nothing about PASSION(snicker!!) Being a citizen, I. of course, advocate freedom of speech. Being a BLOG READER, I merely appeal to reason and balance. My opinion, for whatever that matters, is that Coach Austen would be a great hire for the Panthers. Why, I would even contrbute to that fund if given the opportunity. Thank you gentlemen for your kind remarks. “Let the “games” go on!! Rev. George from Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 02.11.13 @ 10:57 pm

FRANKCAN- there really was no good info on the ESPN insider post. All it really said was that PC did reach out to Austin. Didnt say if he was the one who turned him away or not. Hopefully he’s the one that says yes!! Also mentioned all the rumors that we all heard, Tomulsala, Jackson and the co – def that was mentioned. Nothing earth shattering. Lets get this done once and for all!!!

Comment by QuipScript 02.11.13 @ 11:17 pm

Comment by panther94 02.11.13 @ 11:42 pm

Speaking as a life long Pitt fan whose wife is an FSU alumni, I watch both these teams every week. Yeah they are still Florida State, But they lost a lot of starters to graduation. They will have a new QB for the first time in 4 years, with no clear cut QB who is the guy right now. Also, Jimbo lost over 6 assistants this year to other jobs.
The first game of the year at home would probably be the best scenario for Pitt to pull an early upset. If history is any indication Pitt plays up to the competition. Id rather see them face the early challenge knowing they are headed to play a powerhouse than fall asleep at the wheel against Villinova.

Comment by Orlando Truit 02.12.13 @ 11:48 am

I agree completely Orlando…

Comment by Jackagain 02.12.13 @ 2:00 pm

Villinova is no better than Youngstown State, they both suck. Nova therefore is a sure win to start off the season, a good confidence builder for the team, so I say keep the nova game,,, wait a second, We got our a$$ handed to us last season by YSU. They ripped us a new one and made us look silly on our own turf. Poor argument, NEVER MIND!!!!!!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.12.13 @ 3:41 pm

I’d rather lose to FSU on opening day then lose to Nova on opening day.

Comment by Yeti 02.12.13 @ 7:54 pm

As Ric Flair said “to be the man you gotta beat the man” if Pitt wants to be a top tier program go out and earn it, dodging this and saying its nova’s fault would be just another sad reminder that we are at best a 7-6 football program.

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