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February 6, 2013

Signing Day Stories

Filed under: Football,Recruiting — Chas @ 11:40 am

Okay, the Tyler Boyd drama was about the only issue of the day. But in the end it was a lot of empty drama.

At the time of his verbal to Pitt, Boyd said that he planned to take official visits to both Michigan State and Tennessee. However, Boyd cancelled both visits and appeared to be set on Pitt.

But Boyd surprised many by making official visits to West Virginia and Tennessee on back-to-back weekends at the end of January. Boyd did not make his final decision until Tuesday afternoon and chose to be a part of Paul Chryst’s second recruiting class at Pitt.

He created a fair amount of angst with Pitt fans. Especially with tweets that cast more confusion in what he was thinking.

Boyd had every right to reconsider. It’s his decision. It’s his future. It’s his life. Just glad he made the correct call.

There’s no question that Pitt’s decision to offer his teammates played a role. Howard was offered — and committed — in June. Webb late in the recruiting cycle.

“I want to stay with my brothers,” said Boyd, who was joined by teammates Terrish Webb and Titus Howard, who also signed with Pitt on Wednesday morning.

This story on Rachid Ibrahim running under the radar because he went to a start-up school.

As is the case with the Black Knights’ practices and games, Ibrahim and Veii’s journey began off the Avalon campus, at Richard Montgomery in Rockville. In the fall of 2009, Veii was a sophomore varsity starter at the school while Ibrahim, a freshman, played several positions on the Rockets’ junior varsity and varsity teams. But with hopes of making his mark at a powerhouse like DeMatha or Good Counsel, Ibrahim decided to transfer. By the end of the summer, those plans fell through, leaving Ibrahim to choose between Richard Montgomery and Avalon, a small six-year-old independent school.

“I had come to Avalon to meet Coach [Jerry] Sarchet, who was the coach at the time, but I wasn’t too high on going here,” Ibrahim said. “I was young and focused on how it wasn’t the big school I wanted.”

Yet after some prodding from his mother, Ibrahim enrolled at Avalon, just in time to join the football team for its preseason practices.

“When Rachid came, he broke the ice,” said Shields, who took over as head coach in 2011. “He stuck his neck way out and took a lot of heat from people within Montgomery County and on message boards, but he didn’t listen to it. To have that kind of fortitude is unusual for a kid that’s 14, 15 years old.”

He started impressing in some camps after people dismissed the programs winning record and numbers the players put up because of the competition. Pitt was able to get him first, and he stayed with them.

Final recruiting rankings will come later, but at the moment ESPN.com has Pitt outside their top #40. Scout.com says, #20. Rivals.com and 247Sports.com both peg the class at #32.

 





Only a kid named Blewitt could come in and help solve Pitt’s ages old kicking problems.

Kicking FGs in football is akin to Pitt shooting foul shots in BBall. Let’s hope this kid solves the problem for the next 4 years!

Comment by Dan 72 02.06.13 @ 12:06 pm

I assume that it was the quantity as much of the quality as the reason for the favorable ratings. More importantly, it stocked both OLine and DLine, 2 areas where depth was sorely lacking.

Yes, it would have been nice to get another blue chip RB but Shell-Bennett-Crocker is not exactly chopped liver (and all can return in 014 if they choose.)

Comment by wbb 02.06.13 @ 12:38 pm

2014 OLine?

D Jonhson – M Rotheram – A Rowell – A Doakes? – A Bisnowaty

Since at least 4 of them should get a lot of experience this coming year, the 2014 version may remind some of the Joe Moore days

Comment by wbb 02.06.13 @ 12:43 pm

ESPN is a joke anyhow. Who really gives a $hit what they say? Any network that hires Ray Lewis is a farce. I’ll take the average of the other three and call it ranked at #28. :-) Which I can live with. For what it’s worth.

Comment by Panther Pride 02.06.13 @ 12:53 pm

Next year, hopefully fewer but higher quality recruits. Pitt needs to avg around 3.4 in stars to challenge FSU, Va Tech, Clemson and Miami in the ACC. This year’s class is quantity over quality for depth. Avg star is only about 2.9 however.

Comment by TX Panther 02.06.13 @ 1:12 pm

In addition to Blewitt, other great name from this class are:
Jester, Poker, & Moody.
Could be Top 10 in names of signees.
H2P, yo

Comment by Hey Fralic, what do you do for fun? 02.06.13 @ 1:16 pm

We should get this guy…

link to sbnation.com

Comment by OrlandoAlum 02.06.13 @ 1:19 pm

ESPN ranks are based upon their criteria…what will get us the most hits/readers/viewers. It is done to manipulate ratings.

Wonder how the Big ten network ranks recruits?
Who cares, but since the big conferences will play fewer out of conference games, it allows them to claim supremacy without being tested.

F em!

Comment by sfpitt 02.06.13 @ 1:23 pm

Completely off topic but just read Cristobal is heading for Cleveland browns job. Maybe running back coach.

Comment by why me 02.06.13 @ 1:30 pm

were did espn rank us the outhers were 32 and 21
i think .

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 1:32 pm

well now how abought are new DC soon i hope.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 1:36 pm

Who cares the rankings, the numbers only count in 3 or four yrs.

Comment by alcofan 02.06.13 @ 1:40 pm

After today, the main criteria for rating these recruits, once they see the field, will be quite basic, WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!

From here on out I could give a $hit if you were a two star linebacker in HS, as long as you can stick your head into that hole and stack up the third and goal run play in its tracks to stop a TD. On the flip side, who cares if you were a superstar in HS if your not willing to put in the time to develop your talents at the next level?
It is all about what you are going to do with the opportunity just extended to you. Hail to Pitt!

Just win baby, win.

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.06.13 @ 1:42 pm

Yes, after today the number of stars means absoltely nothing. From here on in, it’s what you do on the playing field.

Comment by Justinian 02.06.13 @ 1:52 pm

Punter Ryan Winslows dad punted for the Browns and Saints.

Comment by alcofan 02.06.13 @ 1:59 pm

West Virginia didn’t do well in Western PA this year. That’s probably why they brought back Gibson. to help in that regard. In past years, they got a lot of good PA players. Hopefully with Pitt not playing them, or not playing them on a regular basis, will hamper their westen Pa recruiting. I would imagine that local exposure matters. Let’s see if Chryst & Company can put that fence, that Wanny talked about, around western Pennsylvania.

Comment by Justinian 02.06.13 @ 2:13 pm

Dan Im not sure what your talking about with kicking, we’ve had solid field goal kickers and punters for ages.

Comment by Justin 02.06.13 @ 2:18 pm

Worth mentioning that WVU’s top recruit still has yet to sign his LOI and our friends down at ASU had their committed Elite 11 QB decide he was a Tennessee man today.

Comment by Pabs 02.06.13 @ 2:21 pm

Pabs, Shelton Gibson’s LOI was signed, sealed and delivered to WVU, if that’s who you’re talking about. I believe they’ve got three 3-star recruits that they’re waiting on for LOI’s.

Comment by Panther Pride 02.06.13 @ 2:39 pm

Exciting day for these kids.

Let’s hope the coaches put them in a position to succeed.

Comment by Omar 02.06.13 @ 2:41 pm

Here’s a great story….glad this didn’t have to happen to Boyd :-)

Arkansas recruit’s mom swipes fax

link to espn.go.com

Comment by Jackagain 02.06.13 @ 2:57 pm

New cheer for Pitt

“With a name like Blewitt, he has to be good!”

Comment by Jackagain 02.06.13 @ 2:59 pm

pitt signed 14 of penna top 50 players more than any outher school.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 3:11 pm

On a basketball note – from Jason King @ ESPN.com

Pittsburgh 60, at Cincinnati 55: Pittsburgh is the hot team right now, so I’ll go with the Panthers. But this game should definitely be close. Cincinnati’s four losses this season have come by a combined 10 points. Three of those setbacks have come at home.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.06.13 @ 3:29 pm

Frank…I just saw this over at the Scout board:

Rumor on the pay board is Inoke is going to get a bump and be the new DC.

Maybe that’s they waited until after LOI day.

Comment by Jackagain 02.06.13 @ 3:32 pm

Just for giggles, I looked at the 2012 NFL draft and went back to when those guys picked their college. Care to venture a guess?

Using Scout as the barometer, and not including Dontari Poe and Brandon Weeden, because I couldn’t find their stars, here is a breakdown of first round picks by number of stars as a senior in high school :

5*’s = 8
4*’s = 10
3*’s = 8
2*’s = 4

That is 30 of the 32. Tells me it is not all about the stars for number one picks. Please don’t ask me to review the entire draft! Just sayin that stars aren’t the end all that recruiting sites think they are. Personally, I was amazed at the 2 and 3 star players that made it to the first round. Coach em up!

Real nice class Coach Chryst. Welcome aboard new recruits.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 02.06.13 @ 3:33 pm

FRANKCAN, I’m proud of you!!!!! You completed an entire post without any mention of how long Pitt has been without a Defensive Coordinator. Good for you!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.06.13 @ 3:35 pm

DR Tom you spoke to soon 52 days with out a DC
and super bowl is over and LOI day is over so
no more bull shit name a DC .

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 3:49 pm

Show me the DC!

Comment by TX Panther 02.06.13 @ 3:52 pm

Jackagin i dont see that no way just some one playing mind games a bull shit post dont fall
for that.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 3:53 pm

LOL….I know Frank…but I hope it isn’t a Pitt assistant getting a promotion anyway. It might explain why Chryst decided to wait though…

Comment by Jackagain 02.06.13 @ 3:57 pm

TX Panther you got it show me the DC stop fucking with us and it better not be jackson.

jackson was the asst LB coach in wisconsin in 2010
and asst db coach in san fran he has never been
a full position coach he might be ready to be a db
coach but not a DC.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 4:02 pm

“pitt signed 14 of penna top 50 players more than any outher school.”

Unfortunately, tomorrow’s headline in the PG will read, “Pitt fails to recruit again, losing 36 of the top 50 players” Shame on the local media. Our boys deserve better support. HTP

Comment by pittbluegold 02.06.13 @ 4:02 pm

dhuffdaddy–You do realize that those stats actually prove the opposite of what you say it means?

The original pool of players coming out of high school contains only a small number of 5 stars, a larger but still relatively small number of 4 stars, a large number of 3 stars and a vast number of 2 stars.

Therefore, if stars did not matter you wouldn’t have such a statistical bias in favor of the 4 and 5 star players (i.e., there would be fewer of them because the original pool of them is a lot smaller).

Comment by pitt1972 02.06.13 @ 4:11 pm

Justin, I HOPE you are kidding with that post about how good our kickers have been…

Comment by Pitt it Is 02.06.13 @ 4:14 pm

TX Panther and DR TOM and outhers
i found this on another site but i think the poster is 100 percent right.
he says if jackson is hired it will be just another
unqualified low budget hire based on chryst cronyism he has not even been a full position coach
any were and is unqulified to be a DC.

AND if it is jackson i will post this agein.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 4:16 pm

After the way the D played with the current staff in the Sayonara Bowl, it better be someone from outside.

And after almost 2 months it better be someone worthy of the wait and more importantly…. the University.

Back to Back years, PITT gets the best player in the Area according to the PG. And two of the Top 3 in the State of Penna.

Shell & Boyd. Not bad considering the FUBAR.

Wow we could have really cleaned up with DW & staff.

Comment by EMel 02.06.13 @ 4:18 pm

It looks to me that this recruiting class was BIG in more ways than one. They are bringing in some very big linemen on both sides of the ball.

Comment by Justinian 02.06.13 @ 4:38 pm

Poker?? I hardly even knew her!!!

Comment by Dan 02.06.13 @ 4:41 pm

HCPC said in the last minutes of his presser that he can now focus on a DC and one will be in place by the start of spring ball. He said neat 6 times.

Comment by markp 02.06.13 @ 4:49 pm

Dan what are we to do with you shame shame.
go on with your bad self Dan o.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 4:51 pm

bye the start of spring ball what is he doeing
growing one in a corn field.
i get it that way they dont have to pay one cheap pitt skin flints cheap skates.
why should i think things have changed same old cheap pitt.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 4:55 pm

Congratulations to Paul Chryst the staff and all of our new signees.

I think this is an outstanding first recruiting class for a guy that has never done it before at a school that is not *yet* a marquee football school that has had some serious stability and credibility problems in the not-too-distant past.

I also think Dhuffdaddy made an interesting point about the star system. Chryst is doing the right thing with a large class. It would be *really* interesting to look at the probability of success within each star classification. EG, out of all 4 star players, 8% make all-conference at some point in their career – or something along those lines. I bet you could make a case that the probability of higher-star player being successful is higher but a significant amount of lower-star players develop. (I think this essentially what Pitt1972 was saying.) Now what would be really interesting is to find the coaches who have the highest percentage of two-star-to-all-conference player over their career.

Stat nerdiness aside I can’t wait for spring ball.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Atlanta Panther 02.06.13 @ 5:46 pm

Atlanta Panther, It has been discussed many times on this blog, that Wisconsin typically has a awful lot of 2 and 3 star recuits, who develop into very good college football players. That says a few things about them. For one, they evidently find a lot of good players who are flying under the radar. They are also good recognizing talent in players. They do a good job developing the players they recruit. So given that information, I feel even better about this class that Paul Chryst and the Pitt coaching staff have recruited.

Comment by Justinian 02.06.13 @ 6:32 pm

no doubt that pitt is cheap with athletics. can’t blame pc for this.

though the endowment fund may be mostly dedicated funds, how are discretionary funds spent? does the university believe it can recoup its expenses if spent on sports? we play a role. let’s recruit.
this year’s home schedule is attractive.

we need to remember who we are and where we are. hopeful future.

Comment by pittkeith 02.06.13 @ 6:50 pm

If you haven’t listened to today’s presser – you should – show’s a lot of what PC is made of – and his approach to recruiting, coaching, etc. and why Pitt is in good hands!

Comment by markp 02.06.13 @ 8:05 pm

Ditto, Atlanta…Hail to Pitt!

Comment by steve1 02.06.13 @ 8:06 pm

well, Frankcan, one less DC candidate .. and maybe 3 less when you think about it

link to cbssports.com

Comment by wbb 02.06.13 @ 8:11 pm

Wbb i never thought it was abought the money
i should have known better same old pitt they most likey told chryst to hold off on the hire that way they save some bucks are AD is such a shit head.

every time i think things will turn around something like this happens.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 8:49 pm

Although whisky has done well recruiting two and three stars and coaching them up, that is not a recipe for success at winning national championships. Pitt needs more elite talent and more stars to reach 11 win seasons.

Regarding the new DC. Pitt had better not be cheap. Pitt had better not lowball and go with the inexperienced guy. Pitt had better not go with one of Chrysts buddies. If Pitt pulls another turd out of a hat, I’ll pull my donation to academics to my alma mater. I won’t give to athletics untill Stevie is gone.

Pitt is a case study in how not to run things.

Comment by TX Panther 02.06.13 @ 8:58 pm

On a basketball note, Cincy lost to Providence tonight which means we get to play another team at home that has a chip on its shoulder. Hopefully we can handle it better than we did against Louisville.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.06.13 @ 9:15 pm

Frankcan, you are going to give yourself a freakin stroke.
Chill out, Keep the faith, Chryst is the man, we have a good core of defensive players and we’ll have a good coach in plenty of time.

A little off topic, but someone mentioned how our top recruit almost went to PSU, which got me to thinking about when they stole Morelli, and Walt Harris’ final recruiting class collapsed. If I recall his agent didn’t help.

Anyway, my question to Blather Nation is, if Morelli came to Pitt and Harris stayed would Morelli had the opportunity to throw to Larry Fitz, also if Harris stayed would Flacco stay and had the pleasure to throw to Fitz. I think Fitz was recruited by Wanny so it might not have happened. Not sure about the time line. Also would Rod Rutherford become a great tight end?

It all worked out for Flacco and the great Larry Fitz. Not so much for Morelli at PSU. How about Rutherford, he might still be playing as tight end or receiver in the NFL. Fitz might have won the Heisman with Flacco throwing to him.

In any case, I think Dorian Johnson will do a lot better than Anthony Morelli.

Great day to be a Panther Fan, let’s say it again on Saturday.

Comment by gc 02.06.13 @ 9:16 pm

Khem Birch and UNLV

link to espn.go.com

He gambled and lost

Comment by steve1 02.06.13 @ 9:16 pm

TX Panther, my guess is that Chryst has more leverage with the athletic department, maybe than any coach ever. After the PR disaster that has been Pitt Football since the SI article and the firing of Wanny do you think Petey, Cochran or even the Chancellor, would give Chryst a hard time. Chryst is doing things his way, so far good but not great, and that is ok by me. Thoughtful and not reactionary or High Octane.

Comment by gc 02.06.13 @ 9:25 pm

There is a report that Pitt will open the season at Heinz field against FSU.
TV talks, bull crap walks.

Comment by SFPitt 02.06.13 @ 9:30 pm

@Steve 1 – for Birch – 17 min, 4 pts, 3 reb, 1 block, 5 pf – great line

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.06.13 @ 9:33 pm

Khem Birch wasn’t a good fit and good riddance. Pitt’s team chemistry this year seems to be great.

It looks like everyone has left their ego at the door. In fact, sometimes they should be a little more selfish and take the shot.

It’s too bad the kid didn’t have it between the ears. He and Adams could have made a run at a couple of titles if they stuck around long enough.
He certainly would have had a bigger stage against Duke, North Carolina, et al in the ACC, than Boise State.

Comment by gc 02.06.13 @ 9:37 pm

Did Veii a RB from same school as Ibraham sign?

Comment by Frank MD 02.06.13 @ 9:42 pm

I like this class and I like the fact that they all sent there LOI’s in in the AM, mostly in the early AM. Even the kids in other time zones sent theirs almost as soon as they could. This may seem like a small thing but it suggests that Coach Chryst and staff got kids who are motivated and really want to be at Pitt and that the kids and the coaching staff have good communication. These factors are huge in building a successful team/program in any field that depends on its people, e.g. business, human services, healthcare and of course football. I can’t put my finger on specific data but my feeling is that these are also kids who want to work together as a team with hopefully a low selfishness quotient. If all of this is true it is worth more than a few extra stars in the ratings of this class. Great job HCPC and Coaching Staff. HTP!

Comment by OPFIM 02.06.13 @ 9:48 pm

Off topic again, but the ACC made a big mistake ruling out the Consol for the tourney. This town could have put on a great party, We have the hotels, the nightlife, the restaurants and other amenities including an oversized airport.
The people here are friendly and like to entertain. We don’t have as many hookers as New York, Miami or New Orleans, so maybe that affected the decision.

It would have been a great way to say welcome to the ACC. I hope they don’t treat us like second class citizens.

Comment by gc 02.06.13 @ 9:49 pm

Feank MD yes he did i think he was a 2 star
i just saw him but cant remmber what school.
i was just looking at all the class on rival
for the ACC boston college has the worst class
most of the big east class s are better then them
there class sucks .

the QB that decommitd from them went to a big east school u con .

even temple had a better class then them.

Comment by FRANKCAN 02.06.13 @ 10:02 pm

@gc – I think they saw us play Duquesne at the Consol and they are afraid it gives us too great a home court advantage.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.06.13 @ 10:05 pm

I hope you are right gc. I have no faith in the current Pitt admin after a bad game day experience in an off campus stadium 12 years running and the hiring fiascos over recent years. Pitt will not be serious about football until it spends more money and moves back to campus. Maybe new leadership will see that. However, I have faith in Chryst. In Chryst I trust.

Comment by TX Panther 02.06.13 @ 10:08 pm

GC, yes we’ll be 2nd tier citizens in the ACC, but the top tier is small, North Carolina and Duke. I think as people begin making the trip to Pittsburgh for games they will enjoy the city and the word will get out.

Comment by Justinian 02.06.13 @ 10:10 pm

PC just keeps working a plan, systematically, because he knows what he wants and how to get it done. Today shows this and the comments are right on about how this is a motivated and focused recruiting class of kids that want to be here.

And it is really good to read about how well this coaching staff gets along with players and how well positioned they seem to be with the 2014 players…. building the foundation of a great program one brick at a time!

Hey interesting to read panthersprey and see what a coaching machine Bobby Ingram is!! It seems like this guy recruited half the class! and Rudolph was suppose to be the recruiting stud.

Hail Pitt!!

Comment by PittScript 02.06.13 @ 10:13 pm

@Pitt 72 – My point is that there really isn’t a point if that makes sense. I understand the statistical analysis of less 5 stars being drafted in the first round because there are fewer of them to begin with.

At the end of the day, a 5 star ranking does not a first round draft pick make. If you are elite, the nfl will find you, regardless of star ranking going into college. As such, I don’t get overly excited or underwhelmed based on stars, like many do. I look at the product on the field. Our coach will continue to improve the product. Look, I am excited about this class. I also think that Steve P. is playing with fire by not extending Coach Chryst NOW!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 02.06.13 @ 10:24 pm

Tx Panther-a LOT of teams need elite talent to reach 11 wins…quite frankly, Pitt is not yet in the position to command that kind of talent, not coming off a .500 season and a dismal no-name bowl presence.

For now, Pitt has to take steps, maybe even baby steps in the right direction. They need to show dominance in the ACC, and hope for a BCS bowl bids. They need to be competitive on the national stage, and then, they’ll start to generate the kind of interest that will attract elite players. We are not in that position today.

Pitt, more than anything, needs to keep and recruit a high-caliber coaching staff, and they need to show some stability. Elite talent won’t want to go to a program in flux, and I wouldn’t blame them.

Comment by Lou 02.06.13 @ 10:41 pm

Listen to PC himself…

just listened to this… wow, completely confirms what the positives posts here about Chryst as well as his recruiting philosophy etc.

And as I listen to him I just like how he thinks and talks!… particularly when he talks about his recruits and players.

link to pittsburgh.cbslocal.com

Comment by PittScript 02.06.13 @ 10:49 pm

@dhuffdaddy Back with the extend Chryst now nonsense I see. Facts are Chryst doesn’t deserve an extension yet. You say you get excited by the product on the field eh? Let’s see him have a winning season first. Heck let’s see him have a season that doesn’t include multiple no shows. Also, let’s see him recruit a 5 star guy who didn’t have his preferred school get killed with sanctions and had to settle for Pitt.

I mean I like Chryst and hope he does well. And he had a decent first class. And he seems to be a nice honest guy. Seriously I don’t want to be too critical but I’m a results oriented man. Especially when it comes to first time head coaches. I feel like many on here give him extra leeway because he didn’t leave for Wiscy and because he’s an actual nice human being. Really I think it’s cause Todd Graham was such a creep that it has skewed everyone’s views. I mean there are comments like the coaching staff really gets along with the players and all the players want to be here. That’s the norm for decent programs. Just not for Todd Graham.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.06.13 @ 11:59 pm

PittScript, Thanks very sincere guy. He is obviously not too concerned about what people think, jokes about the concerns over the DC. Frankcan, listen to the tape.

Comment by gc 02.07.13 @ 12:00 am

New conference, coaching stability…there is no reason why we have to wait for elites. 2014 has at least 5 in the wpial. Pitt should get at least 3 of them. That will be a good start. If Pitt gets any less, I will be disappointed. I still think Chryst needs to find another dynamic recuiter like Engram. And he needs to expand the recruiting footprint to Va, MD and FL. Get some more recuits from EPA and NJ as well. Leftovers from OH are fine. I don’t want to wait long for an ACC title. Need talent and good coaching. I think Pitt has a good coach and good offense without Tino the Terrible. Jury still out on defense since no DC yet. Pitt still thin at elites. Again whisky made good use of 2 and 3 stars by coaching them up, but they couldn’t consistently win the big ten. Why? Because OSU cheated and had far better talent, Penn State had more talent but an enabler as coach, Michigan had more talent and now finally a very good coach. Until Pitt gets an elite QB and gets more speed on D, it won’t go anywhere. Off campus stadiums also don’t impress elites particularly in years the Steelers suck.

Comment by TX Panther 02.07.13 @ 7:42 am

IMO, the jury is out on Paul Chryst until after our bowl game in the 2015-16 season. Then the verdict comes in with Chryst having three of his own recruiting classes under his direction and a true track record of game day performances to draw conclusions from.

Stepped up competition in the ACC will expose the weak under belly of Pitt’s football team this season and how Chryst reacts to that alone will tell tons.

Last year Chryst got a pass simply forshowing his commitment to the Pitt program when the Wisky HC job opened up (even if he never got an interview in the 1st place). This season, with the move to the ACC, he gets another pass if he can just keep his head above .500 and brings home a win against an opponent that no one thinks we can beat.

In 2014, his seat starts getting a little warm if there are less than 8 wins during the season. But otherwise he has no problems.

But in 2015, no matter how “neat” he feels his team is playing, by that time it will be “show me what you got” time. Shell will probably be history, running in the NFL somewhere during his rookie season, so Chryst’s hand picked running game will be out there for all to see and this herd of offensive linemen, just recruited, will be in their prime making holes for whomever that tailback turns out to be. The entire program will be all settled into the ACC way of doing things and there will be no more “get out of jail free” cards for Coach Chryst.

So until then, please no Head Coaching debates, lets just enjoy the process of watching the new breed of competition that will be visiting Heinz Field. Plan on a few road trips to some beautiful southern college campuses and hopefully cheer Pitt on to some unexpected victories.

We can begin the discussion of who our next coach should be or how much more $$$ Coach Chryst’s extension should be in about three years.

Personally though, I’m pretty optimistic, Hail to Pitt.

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.07.13 @ 8:09 am

Well said, Doctor!

Comment by Lou 02.07.13 @ 9:28 am

+1

Comment by alcofan 02.07.13 @ 11:22 am

Me too Dr. Tom – enjoying the new chaallanges and opponents in the coming years.

Comment by markp 02.07.13 @ 1:32 pm

well summarized Dr. Tom and TX Panther… thanks.

Comment by PittScript 02.07.13 @ 1:49 pm

@Ward. If you wait for the results, the train will have already left the station when you get them. Go with me on this for a second. Say Pitt goes 7-5 next season. What do you do? You now have a coach with two years left on a contract and other coaches start throwing the “Pitt instability” card at the kids. Coach Chryst looks at 7-5 and thinks he is doing well and the Pitt Admin doesn’t move an inch.

Pitt goes 9-3 the next season. Coach Chryst starts to field calls about bigger programs and for all intents and purposes, he is gone. We are back at 2010. You don’t wait for success, you make success happen! You cannot be afraid of making mistakes, ever! If you know what you are doing as an AD and trust your own abilities, you make decisions!

If you are a results oriented person as you write, you would understand that the results of the Pitt Administration over the last 30 years has been underwhelming. You should want them to be proactive instead of reactive. Getting out in front of things and making them happen, versus playing catch up once they happen. Sorry Ward, I gotta disagree with your management style on this one.

Pitt’s Administrative style just hasn’t worked because our AD can’t think about success because he has never experienced success. When you experience success, you make bold moves. So I ask again. If you don’t act without seeing results first, how does that benefit Pitt in this circumstance. Please let me know how this has worked for our AD and the athletic department in general?

Pitt has been used as a stepping stone for a number of coaches as they ascend to larger jobs. My preference is to make strong moves proactively and try to control my destiny. If you believe in the guy, you reward the guy. NOW! Managing from behind or when required by an opposite force does not promote loyalty.

Have you ever quit a job, only to be offered a substantial pay raise on a counter-offer? I left a firm 10 years ago and was counter offered by the partnership group with a larger offer than what I was going to receive at the new firm. My response was this ” if you thought I was worth it today, why didn’t you make the offer yesterday”. It actually caused resentment on my end because I then felt abused for all my prior efforts. Same principle applies, except that you have all of your competitors bashing Pitt’s history and lack of stability to recruits. So yes, when you believe in what you are doing and trust your judgment, you pull the trigger and extend. Conversely, if you don’t, you live with the consequences. Pick a winner chicken dinner.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 02.07.13 @ 1:50 pm

dhuffdaddy: I totally agree with everything you stated above. Make the move before the season. Extend to 4 to 5 years, it’s gonna take that long to make an informed decision on his ability as HC anyway.

Comment by frankarms 02.07.13 @ 2:17 pm

Meant to also say that it will send a message to next years recruits that we are after that we are serious about moving up going forward.

Comment by frankarms 02.07.13 @ 2:19 pm

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