Not that it is healthy for anyone to have the decision of a high school senior on which college to attend (unless it’s your kid) affect your day, but that was the second-worst thing of my Friday. The first was slamming into a guardrail amidst gusting wind and ice/slush road conditions.
I really do wish Robert Foster the best at Alabama. It’s his decision, and by all accounts he went back-and-forth on it. At one point earlier in the week, letting his parents know he was probably choosing Pitt. But, then on Friday, he changed his mind once more.
Cynically, the fact that he had such a tough decision suggests it isn’t completely over until signing day.
[Pitt wide receivers Coach Bobby] Engram‘s phone call to [Robert Foster's mother, Sherrice] Clements — only 45 minutes after the announcement — indicates Pitt will keep an eye on Foster through letter of intent signing day Feb. 6.
“This is a verbal,” said Central Valley coach Mark Lyons, who said Foster “probably” changed his mind multiple times Friday morning. “That‘s why I don‘t know if this is always the best thing to do it this early. But for him, it was the right thing to do.
“I‘m never going to say anything is over, but right now, he is comfortable with this.”
After all, if Saban gets lured to the Cleveland Browns, everything changes.
The fact that his high school coach is calling his decision, less than 2 months to signing day, “early,” is another factor saying that Pitt really can’t give up on Foster yet.
It also means that the attention turns even more strongly to getting Tyler Boyd. Like Foster, it seems Boyd has strong family ties that will encourage him to stay closer to home. Unlike Foster, Boyd has several teams, besides Pitt, that are reasonably close to home.
But football is most definitely Boyd’s No. 1 sport. He already has made a visit to Pitt and has January visits scheduled for Penn State, West Virginia, Rutgers and Michigan State. Schools are recruiting him as a receiver. Boyd was originally going to announce his college choice at the U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio Jan. 5. But he might wait to pick a school.
“The recruiting really is getting to be a pain,” Boyd said. “Schools want me to come visit. That’s why I’m not really sure what I want to do.”
Just a hunch, but I think Boyd is going to be a signing day decision. He may be sick of recruiting, but it sure doesn’t seem that he is any closer to a decision.
A good article by Kevin Gorman in today’s Trib. For the 2nd time in a year, someone prayed for Divine Guidance which led to the decision to not be at Pitt ….. hmmmmm!!
We long suffering Pitt fans always thought we were snake-bitten but it now appears we are dealing with an even greater power
Nick Saban is the undisputed King of College Foobtall. And in the words of Mel Brooks’s character in History of the World: “It’s GOOD to be the king!”
Case in point: There was an interesting article in the Denver Post this week about Colo State landing a big-time OL recruit despite him having offers from more prominent programs.
Here’s what dude had to say about landing at CSU of all places, (quote): “I wanted to go where I felt wanted. CSU was my first offer. They talked to me the most. They visited with me the most. … I felt wanted by CSU.”
And on a related note: CSU’s first-yead head coach, Jim McElwain, was Alabama’s OC last season.
Okay, I concede that this story isn’t exactly the same situation as Foster choosing ‘bama over Pitt. Maybe it was as simple as Foster wanting to play in front of 90,000 fans for the NC every year.
However, Chryst’s policy of “We don’t sell” and “Just offer” and “Let the kid make up his own mind” is great, as long as everybody else is playing by those same rules. Problem is, in CFB nobody else is….
The running backs will have room to run and the quarterbacks will have time to throw.
As for recruiting, time to move on. The kid made his choice and we wish him well. Good luck to he and his family. A tough decision to make for a 17 year old who has everyone giving him their opinion.
We will land a few and lose a few. In the end we simply want a net gain positive. Dorian D. and Chapman were big pick ups. Now we lost one. Still net positive in my book.
Time to move on.
HTP
“I felt in my heart they are the best in the country. For me to be the best player, I have to play for the best,” Foster said of the Crimson Tide. “I want to go to Alabama and change, to be forced to work and not just have it given to me.”
http://triblive.com/sports/kevingorman/3160338-74/foster-alabama-pitt#ixzz2FnInzoN4
Can’t begrudge a kid for making a decision for those reasons. This is probably why he is a high school all-american. He keeps pushing himself.
I think that Pitt woul have been great for him (see Larry Fitzgerald) but in the end he has to make his decision. It likely will be tough to regularly see the field until his Jr year (versus immediately at Pitt) but given his attitude it is likely that he will do well.
My guess is that it will be a long 45 day wait for Alabama and we might see this one flip. Let’s hope so. If not then I’m still rooting for the kid to do well!
Comining into the right situation, and having the oportunities can all the difference.
at Pitt. Losing him is painful however we need to
move on. Past performance is not a
guarantee of future success. Chryst
needs to win 8 or 10 games a year
and recruiting better players will happen.
If any of you think this has to do with academics, you could not be more wrong.
I wish him luck and hope he changes his mind by signing day.
Last but not least, I don’t care what your selling style (pitch, tempo, enthusiasm level) is, you are going to win some and lose some.
and i think we might get at least one more .
we wont get boyd but that is ok.
as long as coach gets thoes big men up front we will be ok.
some WR will step up we have the QBS for next year and for years after.
we have good RB but not enough of them we have
more depth at WR then at RB we only have 4 RB
loseing clement was more of a loss then foster
as far as depth goes.
we will be fine as long as we keep thoes big line comeing to pitt .
we have TE up the ass we have at least 10 WR
counting the transfer and the one from this
years commits.
but the RB we got this year is to play safty
so not counting walk ons we have 4 RB what if a couple get hurt
we need jo jo and some one elase for depth at
RB.
The world didn’t end.
Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick.
Where is Jason Gwaltney now?
Bamaboy321
Hope he cuts his hair.
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Robert, good luck (oh and goodbye)
While I agree with most of the posts above… Chryst’s style of recruiting is not the problem.
The problem is the fact that he went 6 and 6 in his first season.
However, with one year under his belt, finally some continuity for Pitt players, and a new quarterback taking the helm… I believe we’re going to see a far better representataion of a Chryst-coached Pitt team next year.
With 9 or more wins, Chryst’s character-driven aproach to recruiting can work just fine.
The new Mayan era is beginning… the start of the long-waited Age of Aquarius is here… all coinciding with the end of the era best known as “Tino.”
Blue skies are a comin’.
- I still think he ends up at Pitt before it’s all done, he didn’t look like a kid who’s excited with his decision…. But if he does end up down there, best of luck young man cause you’re going to need it.
- People ask why Saban would go to Browns. Say 7-8m/yr. and the chance to prove that he can successful in the NFL. Thinking guys like him have huge egos and that past failure failure still bothers him as it detracts from his potential legacy as one of the all-time greats.
h2p
Now if I was Bobby Ingram, come fall camp, I would be challenging Challingsworth right off the bat, for him to eclipse this current preoccupation with the “Foster Factor” by setting his sites on doing everything possible, so that in a couple years,Panther Nation will be asking each other “Foster who”?
Isn’t that just what happened with the performance of Dion Lewis after Shady McCoy went to the NFL? I say, play the cards in your hand and never whine about the draw that didn’t result in the full house that you were chasing.
Besides Devin Street, we have at least 7 other wide receivers already on the 2012 Pitt roster who will be coming back. So WR is really not a critical component in this recruiting class needed to provide depth at that position for the immediate future.
Yes, Foster WOULD have been a hugh boost for this recruiting class but NOT getting him doesn’t really leave a lasting mark either, exposing the vulnerability at that position due to a current lack of depth there at the WR position.
I agree with FRANKCAN in that the OL recruits that we have gotten ARE critical recruits. Now that that first priority issue has been covered, then the next position of need, this year, is a toss up between LB and RB.
But really, all I want for Christmas is a QB that can utilize the talents of the current WR corps that are already on the roster by showing up with a liget deep ball threat and/or legs that can hurt you with their scrambling talents. Neither talent of which Tino Sunseri ever gave us during his career. With the four QBs that will be competing for that job come Spring ball, things are looking up for Pitt to maximize the potential of whoever the WRs are that get the nod as the starters come 2013.
There is a lot to be excited about in the future of Pitt football. Foster made his pick, I hope he flip flops on his decision once more back to Pitt come LOI signing day, buy whatever,,,,,NEXT, we got an exciting Pitt football future to look forward to with or without Foster being a part of it.
HAIL TO PITT!
Kenny Bell has 17 catches and 3 TD’s. Amari Cooper looks like their top receiver and he’s a freshman.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/roster/_/id/333/alabama-crimson-tide
Pitt really needs to have a decent breakout year in the ACC next year and get 8 or more wins if we’re going to get the Fosters and Boyds in the area.
Nice to get Foster (wish well) but Pitt needs to beat MS in Alabama. That’s important now.
The only “team” He’s pulling strings for is the future bride of Christ…..the body (church) of Christ. Merry Christmas…
This year, they had a bunch of terrible teams, like Kentucky, Auburn, Tennessee, Arkansas and Missouri. Vanderbilt usually stinks. One of the Mississippi’s usually stinks. Texas A& M who never won the Big 12 or even finished 2nd, went right into Alabama and beat them their first year in the conference and finished 2nd in their division tied with LSU.
And Alabama like Florida before them, won’t stay at the top. It all goes in cycles and Alabama’s cycle is most likely to end, which is why Saban is probably looking to get out, while he’s still on top. And BEFORE any NCAA probes.
If Texas A & M can beat them, so can Notre Dame.
Let’s hope so, cause I’m sick of hearing how great the SEC is.
Btw Pitt is UNDEFEATED IN BOWL GAMES …..
against SEC teams !!!
TX PANTHER GAVE US KERRY COOK any one else hear a maybe name.
it kills me that the radio men and news paper men have given us nothing they suck.
all the names we have had on here come from posters.
my be they should pay us we find out more then them.
Nonetheless, wouldn’t mind if you could put in a good word prior to prior to Boyd’s announcement.
I have a feeling this saga just may not be over
isn’t such a nice guy = PRICK
bama may be better in football but if the kid and his mother want him to ge a degree that is worth something pitt is it a top 100 school and one of 65 in the aau so from that point pitt is better and if you are thinking NFL I THINK THEY
WILL FIND HIM WERE EVER HE IS HERE OR THERE.
Saban’s future with Alabama is a much talked about topic right now, so I don’t know how much your point about how long Chryst stays factored into Foster’s decision. I for one would feel alot better knowing that my kid was in Chryst’s hands as opposed to Saban. I don’t care how good a football team Alabama is.
Are you serious ?
P.S. Unless Keith Jackson of ABC Sports is there upon his arrival to go….Whoa Nelly
Al-a-bama
South Dakota State Jackrabbits (lol) 70
@ # 16 New Mexico Lobos 65
Which means in any reasonable poll UNM should fall OUT of the polls. And with #20 UNC losing to Texas the other night by 11, two spots should open up in the Top 25 next Monday. One has our name on it, I do believe.
HTP !
1 us news national universty ranking
HAS pitt ranked at the 58 best school
u conn at 66 and bama at 77 not that mutch difference.
But here is the part you wont like forbes
has ranked the universtys bye what the degree
from the school can do for you not bye the rep
and forbes has droped pitt to nummber 265
and bama comes in at 274 .
how the mighty have fallen.
US News rankings take in account areas such as research, community outreach and graduate programs while Forbes is solely based on employment and average income percentages of a school’s graduates.
How you rank bupkis is beyond me.
Ralph Cindrich Interview from July.
They said his wife loves it their. If the wife was unhappy, maybe he continues the coaching tour. Just a thought.
Now, quite a few people in the know agree that Pitt football has gone through some hard times, as of late, with off the field players issues, the coaching turnover and less than stellar W L records, but I can’t seem to find much laughing at Pitt going on in any of my searches on this point.
According to Alex Callos from Bleacher Report, Pitt can’t even crack the bottom 25 of the worst football programs in the NCAA.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1188460-the-25-worst-college-football-programs-ever#/articles/1188460-the-25-worst-college-football-programs-ever
In this “what have you done lately” world that we currently exist in, a proper historical perspective is often lost in the discussion about such subjects. The University of Pittsburgh’s long and storied football history alone should be a reason that a kid would choose to play football as a Panther. To be given the oppotunity to contribute to that history and possibly have his name mentioned along with the likes of the many college and pro football hall of fame legends that have played football at Pitt is not something that should be ignored in such debates.
Currently Pitt football is not an elite program, but it easily could be again with the correct mix of ingredients. One of those ingredients is a loyal fan base. They don’t have to be blindly faithful, just loyal.
Considering your mindset that you posted earlier, if you describe yourself as a Pitt fan, then I would have to question what being a “fan” means in your mind. But maybe it is just that you like to embellish your points of view. Or perhaps you just don’t know what you’re talking about in the first place.
That article definitely shed a different light on Saban. Count me out as ever allow my kid to play for Saban. A human being has to know when to turn it off and be human.
Anyhow, a couple people keep posting “I can’t believe you people are so angry” LOL
Who, who is ANGRY with this decision?
This is a Pitt sports blog, the article is about Robert Foster the wide receiver.
So, people are posting about it. When discussing things, you usually give your opinions.
Getting to know a lot of people on here, as best you can on a blog, and seeing how many are professionals, laborers, hard working family guys, with lots of interets and things they’ve done in their lives……………………
I seriously doubt a decision of an 18 year old has ruined anyones life.
As for me, I haven’t thought about Robert Foster since he made his decision yesterday, and looked on the Blather tonight.
I would think most others are the same.
Would have been great to get him, hope he does well at Alabama, there are a ton of other players out there that will come to Pitt and play football.
He may do great, he may be a bust. “he’s a can’t miss!” How many “can’t miss kids have we never heard of again”. Tons.
That’s why I don’t worry about it, and it’s not a big deal.
If someone says “he would have been better off at Pitt”, that’s not anger, that’s an opinion. He would definitely get more playing time, a chance to be in the limelight, be “the guy” and since he is so family oriented, would have been close to his family.
Alabama is a great oppurtunity, great football, great coach, pretty much a high school football players dream come true.
So, good for him, I have no animosity towards his decision what so ever…………
but, please don’t tell me I’m “angry” just because I don’t have a boner for him going somewhere else either!!!! LOL
Below us?? Ya, but, sometimes you have to indulge yourself!!! LOL
Actually, pretty pumped up for the game against Ole Miss.
Well, more pumped up for it than the past few bowl games.
Looking forward to playing the Rebs!!!
If Mr. Boyd is a leader, then I want him. Leaders lead and tend to add more than their physical skills.
As I recall, the young man from Central Valley was suspended by his coach for a playoff game a few weeks back. Pretty good sign that he isn’t the leader type when that happens to a senior.
Alot like Cam Saddler I am afraid.
So let’s get guys who bring their stats and more and wish the others well.
I want leaders at PITT not followers. (Foster doesn’t exhibit leadership qualities)
I want kids who don’t choose the easy path, I want the ones who choose the different path.
As it makes much stronger ppl therefore much stronger players.
This might be the reason why so many of these kids from the top programs NEVER make in the NFL.
They choose the easy path and that doesn’t cut it in the NFL. Well at least not beyond the obligatory 2-3 period after they get drafted.
AND THEN THAT NFL TEAM STUBBORNLY ADMITS THEY MADE A MISTAKE. (see the Steelers)
If he goes elsewhere, then you know Chryst has recruiting issues
Emel & Justinian make the case completely. Larry Fitz is quoted as saying he came to Pitt because he wanted to make a difference and be someone who helped create.
If there is a more consummate pro than Larry Fitz, I have not seen him.
With Emel as Pres and Justinian as CEO I will gladly take the COO position in the ” Give me your leaders” association.
The last time I spoke to Foster, after a game in which he scored two second-half touchdowns to push CV to a victory, he told me that it meant a lot to him to perform so well in front of Engram.
How is this kid not going to Pitt?
I’m hearing your intent however. Correct me if I’m off base but IMO, I hear you saying that Foster took the “secure” path. Am I right? And I suspect that he probably did so because he is apprehensive about the uncertainties surrounding Pitt’s current football program and feels that Bama gives him a sure bet for his success.
This is pure speculation, but when those kind of decisions are made, it often tends to imply that the individual needs that security to counterbalance other factors that produce insecurity in his own mind.
New coach, new conference, recent history of underachievement that has naturally created a national media impression of an “also ran” football program is hardly a “sure bet” decision if you are going to play for the University of Pittsburgh come 2013.
And IMO, that is why Foster’s decision is Bama. Now to state as fact that he has poor leadership qualities because he decided that he preferred not to accept that risk is also unfair to this kid. You might be right, and he might not want to be “the guy” coming into Pitt being the featured player with high expectations to live up to right out of the gate come Fall camp. Maybe he feels more comfortable blending in with a whole herd of 4 & 5 star players, that will give him the opportunity to blend into the mix gradually without sticking out in the crowd, who knows?
What I do know, for sure, however, is that if he HAD made the decision to come to Pitt, then he would have confirmed, at least in my mind, that he was a risk taker and was up the the challenge of creating something, by his own efforts, that was not there before his arrival on the scene.
That is what Shell did last year and he stated as much. He said he decided to come to Pitt to make a huge difference with his presence. That’s a confident statement, made by a guy who is saying in as many words, “who’s with me”? That is just the kind of kids that we need at Pitt at this juncture in the program.
My continued concern, however, is if Coach Chryst has the required personality to be able to sell that same vision to the recruits that we need to come here to make that vision a reality. When we see guys like Foster go elsewhere, I feel that a lot of the Pitt fan base sees that as an indication that maybe PC isn’t doing a good enough job in that department. And when we don’t get those local blue chippers to stay at home and play for Pitt it does insidiously, negatively effect the entire recruiting process.
Right now, I’m pretty optimistic about where Pitt’s program is headed but getting a guy like Foster on board could have really helped in swinging that recruting momentum in Pitt’s favor going forward. A lot of the angst that I’m hearing on this blog is all about that lost opportunity. Not so much ill will towards Foster, but rather the feeling that we missed out on a game changer that we could have really utilized. Rejection is a hard pill to swallow, isn’t it?
I just hope that Chryst and company left it with Foster that there is no shame with changing your mind, AGAIN, and that he will remain welcomed if he decides that staying home is ultimely the right decision for him after all. God knows that we could use a whole stable of recruits with such great potential to get Pitt back in the mix of a top level program again.
Hail to Pitt.
when the other choice is pretty much the #1 team the last 5 years or so, puts tons of people in the pros (yes, Pitt has it’s share too), plays pretty much in the national championship game every year, plays in front of 90K and has games against Florida, LSU, and Georgia every week,
Paul Chryst losing him doesn’t faze me a bit.
If we would have lost out to Kansas State or Oregon St or Texas Tech, ya, I be questioning.
Losing out to Alabama, have moved on allready.
cat steped om key bord that is why the first post says what it does
he will never go back to the pros
We can hope. If he beats ND, what is left to prove.
CB from orlando fl
his outher offers were from cincinati and iowa state welcome to pitt.
just me but here goes.
pitt will sign 27 players this year the have
21 commits now, they will save one for boyd.
That means they have 5 to give they are done
playing games i think they offer and move on
to the next man.
i think if you want to come to pitt you need to
say yes soon i think the commit start to come a
a lot faster now.
i think the only way that they go past 27 is if some one really special wants to come at the last second like foster or a relly good line men.
Looks like Chryst is picking recruits based on his system and needs – smart.
Long way to signing day.
Anybody blaming Chryst for losing Foster is being ridiculous. If anything, Chryst deserves credit for battling with Alabama to the very end in spite of Foster’s father pushing Alabama the whole time.
The only consideration,and I don’t mean illegal, is that as a student-athlete Foster may find the going at Alabama a lot easier than at PITT, but I’m guessing at that.
As I said before – everyone seems to be looking at true FR Challingsworth but he won’t get PT over rsFR Chris Wuestner. He catches anything remotely near him and has decent speed. At 6’2″ and 210 he is the right size for a WR. Honestly I wouldn’t doubt that Wuestner either gets a ton of PT or even might start in Shanahan’s absence.
bank it!
Even a more absurd concept, is he takes the Alabama route so he can do what?? How about compete with a whole lot of talented WRs that are all just as good as Challingsworth, if not better.
Note to punxy Panther, remember not to post anymore on Panther Blather immediately after smoking my stoner brother’s Christmas present. LOL!


