November 24, 2012

Open Thread: Big East Home Finale

Filed under: Football,Open Thread — Chas @ 7:44 am

Sorry for nothing but open threads the last few days. Between the holidays and some traveling to see family, there just hasn’t been time (or an internet connection). Heading back home late this morning so I couldn’t go to the game and I can’t even watch it live. Going to be a DVR-delay day.

This is the final home game for Pitt for the year. Their final home Big East game. Naturally, given the present state of the Big East it makes perfect sense that at the last minute it becomes a meeting of teams heading somewhere else.

Though Rutgers — most likely — will be playing one more year in the Big East. Don’t forget, the exit fee was raised to $10 million after Pitt and Syracuse announced their plans to leave last year. So, to pay extra to leave after the 2013-14 season (instead of 2014-15) will still cost the Scarlet Knights some where between $12.5 and $15 million.

Rutgers has had a very good year under new coach Kyle Flood. Aside from that home loss to Kent State, they have been winning games primarily behind the defense. They are set up to play for the Big East title and the BCS bid next Thursday against Louisville (assuming Louisville takes care of business against UConn today). Sadly, Pitt can’t even play the role of spoiler as Louisville already has a conference loss.

The last time I saw a Big East team come into a game like this, knowing that they were really playing for the Big East title the following week, was back in 2009. Pitt sleepwalked through the Backyard Brawl and gave it away. We’ll find out if Pitt can at least muster the effort in the home finale and Rutgers is looking to their own finale.

Good riddance to Rutgers and the BE. Rutgers
Belongs in the BT according to their AD.
However a close look at the Rutger’s
schedule during the Schiano regime shows
a non conference schedule of 4 cupcakes
every year plus one game against
a school from a major conference. Rutgers will
be a doormat in the BT.

Of course this is said with a bit of envy
as the loss to YSU still hurts along w/all
Of the games “Pitt should have won.”

Comment by JR 11.24.12 @ 8:18 am

Why would I want to watch this game? The season was lost long ago. You make a field goal, beat YSU and Syracuse and its a whole different season. If you make a stinking field goal against ND you shock the world. At this point all the hope and expectation of spring has completed faded as its just another miserable year for Pitt FB, 30+ and counting. The real killer was PC not getting his team up for UCONN. You win that and there still is a glimmer of hope. Now its just a wait and watch as the best local talent goes to either Ped U or Ohio St. Next year will be more of the same. We will be slow slow slow in the ACC. Far as I’m concerned is deer season, pheasant season, small game etc. Let me know how bad the beat down is today. Hope you all had a happy Thanksgiving.

Comment by LUV PITTBULLS 11.24.12 @ 8:28 am

RIP JR, from on Texan to another

Comment by WLAT and the Big Beat 11.24.12 @ 8:48 am

We’ll be there.

Hope the Pitt students and fans don’t boo Tino.

Comment by 17YearsAtPitt 11.24.12 @ 8:50 am

I’ll be watching in person. Why? Because I’m a Pitt fan, that’s what do. I live and die with it, and suffer through. I dont by season tickets to go to one game or to go only when they win. Call me crazy. H2P.

Comment by Iron Duke 11.24.12 @ 9:32 am


If you don’t want to watch, don’t watch.

And if you’re going to troll, come up with something better than “all the best local talent goes to either Ped U or Ohio State” less than a week after Pitt beat out Ohio State for Dorian Johnson, they’ve got the inside track on Foster and have made significant headway with Boyd.

Nice try, though.

Comment by Stoosh 11.24.12 @ 10:22 am

Heading to Heinz right now. Can’t wait. I hate Rutgers, so there would be no better way to send them to the Big Ten (Thirteen? Fourteen?) with a loss today. May not mean much to their season; I just want to see them lose at the expense of our Panthers.

Rumor has it Foster and Boyd are both there for the game today. Let them hear you.

Comment by Stoosh 11.24.12 @ 10:24 am

For those of you at the game, try to go over and congratulate Jack Anderson, Band Director. This is his last home football game. He’s been Director of Bands since 1995 and associated with Pitt his entire life.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.24.12 @ 10:34 am

Knights by 13. Remember Tiny plays for Pitt.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.24.12 @ 10:35 am

On our way!! It’s what we do!!!

Comment by Dan 11.24.12 @ 10:54 am

we win this game period. Stop your bitching and moaning.

Comment by scott tanner 11.24.12 @ 11:00 am

With this weather the team with the most floridians may be at a disadvantage.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 11:01 am

frank the tank only posts things that might have a grain of truth.
he says on his post maybe acc thakes 3 schools goes to 16 cinci L ville and u conn who knows.

Comment by FRANKCAN 11.24.12 @ 11:29 am

Love to see Pitt spoil RU’s BE hopes, but honestly don’t see Tino or PC being able to pull out a close win. Tino never has done it and never will, and PC is still trying to learn how to be a head coach.
If the field is as big a mess as usual after the WPIAL games, it just adds insult to injury when we bring recruits to this game with so many empty seats. The Rooney’s dream is every football fans nightmare. Its the 21st century, get a clue and put some turf down. Your Dad was wrong on this one Art II, fix the mistake.
Go Panthers, turn Piscataway into a morgue.

Comment by Taxing Matters 11.24.12 @ 11:41 am

I think Chryst will definitevely know what underclassmen love the game of football after today.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 12:13 pm

whimp Carswell drops another pass!

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 12:14 pm

Anyone at game? Looks like lots of empty seats.

Comment by TonyinHouston 11.24.12 @ 12:17 pm

Replace Tino, just for yucks

Comment by steve1 11.24.12 @ 12:23 pm

Tino is atrocious. Chryst can’t see the team needs a spark is troubling. Play any QB on the roster but this kid.

Comment by Upittbaseball 11.24.12 @ 12:24 pm

Bad pass Tino.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 12:24 pm

nice pass tiny, then he laughs about it

gotta love this 24 yr old

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:24 pm

maybe they don’t realize buttgers is a 2nd half team. YOU HAVE TO GET THE LEAD ON THEM in the 1rst half !! sheesh

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:26 pm

omg we got another espn shemale announcer, wTF

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:26 pm

First Pitt seris is a microcosm of the Tino era.
Terrific plays to get a first down then 3 yard loss/5 yard loss/Tino overthrows an open long receiver by 7 yards.

Comment by Dan 72 11.24.12 @ 12:27 pm

hope they stay with shell for a while

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 12:27 pm

who cares about 1869 or buttgers football. you know the world is coming to an end if buttgers gets a BCS bowl ….yikes !!!!

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:27 pm

d playing well

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 12:29 pm

going to turn the sound off soon

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 12:30 pm

These commentators are horrible! Galloway should just announce from the Rutgers bench…

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 12:30 pm

doris burke and this pam huskyvoice on back to back days. Pitt football fans truly are cursed !

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:30 pm


Keep your positive comments to yourself please. This is a Pitt blog.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 12:30 pm

No it wouldn’t be nice for butgers to win the Bigeast on their win to the little 11..pam huskyvoice, what is this broad a butgers cheerleader now .

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:32 pm

i want to win i want us to go to a bowl .

Comment by FRANKCAN 11.24.12 @ 12:33 pm

graham back, shell needs more carries to get going, good day for a power back

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 12:33 pm

Another nice pass, put someone in who can get out of the tackles box…..ANDERSON please !!

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:33 pm

this is the guy who beat out Savage ..Dodd

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:34 pm

Huskyvoice bitch

Comment by FRANKCAN 11.24.12 @ 12:35 pm

the law of averages…tiny finally completes a 4 yd pass yeah!!!!!

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:37 pm


Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 12:37 pm

Holtz goes bowling, keep it up.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 12:38 pm

Surprised they didn’t call the block in the back by Carswell.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 12:38 pm

Is Rachael Maddow doing the game?

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 12:39 pm

I’m waiting with baited breath to hear the Butgers AD talk. Especially if HuskyGirl does the interview. lol

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:39 pm


Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:41 pm

Update on the Tinotime clock

Only 7 quarters left !!!!!

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:42 pm

I don’t want Pitt to go to bowl. I want Sunseri to just go away after the last game!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 12:43 pm

Here we go choke time…………

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 12:45 pm

Tino is the man…..lmao

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:46 pm

Why can’t we do this all the time wow!

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 12:46 pm

Hey did you hear the one about the Pitt fan who who was optimistic after they went up by 7.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 12:48 pm

what happened to rutgers defender?

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 12:48 pm

great play calls on that drive

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 12:50 pm

Not a bad call against the blitz. Shanahan was so wide open on the touchdown, I was nervous! Rutgers has been filling up the box so much, that the Panthers need to continue throwing on first down.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 12:50 pm

ikd..i just saw the replay…the DB..just basically let shanahan run to the endzone unmolested…whoops

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:52 pm

After getting screwed on “Phantom interference call” at Notre Dame, this may be our bowl game.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 12:52 pm

Is Rutgers defense #1 in the country? You would think so listening to these two idiots…

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 12:54 pm

great play call

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 12:58 pm

Is there anything that Rutgers can’t do….. I guess not just asked these two…

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 12:58 pm

Tino does a nosedive

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 12:59 pm

horrible decision taking a sack versus throwing it away…right out of FG range thanks #12!

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 1:00 pm

Thanks Tino!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 1:01 pm

Nice kick Matt, hope it gets us points.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 1:01 pm

by not throwing the 2nd down pass away and doing his infamous nosedive, turned a managable 3rd into 3rd and 17. Killed the drive and took us OUT of FG range.

That stuff doesn’t show up in the box score. But EFFECTS the outcome of the game and the momentum of the game too, as EVERYTHING was going PITT’s way.

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 1:01 pm

I swear Pitt gets this same referee every game.

Comment by Mailman 11.24.12 @ 1:03 pm

looks like the tackling drill worked!

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 1:04 pm

Emel you’re right, but each week these idiot announcers tell us what a great year Tino is having!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 1:04 pm

Donald and Thomas have come to play!

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 1:04 pm

It would have been a 45 yard FG attempt without the sack, so probably not a chip shot, but yes, Tino brain farted again.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 1:05 pm

ok good series defense….WE NEED SO MORE POINTS NOW…THIS IS A MOST crucial point of the game.

Butgers has been a 2nd half team ALL YEAR


Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 1:06 pm

Big posession senior Tino, need some points.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 1:06 pm

The big screen pass to Ray Graham should have been a touchdown. The seam was open if he hit it, but Graham waited for his blockers and the defenders were able to recover. After this stop, let’s see them put it in the endzone this time.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 1:07 pm

Given the conditions and the off-and-on kicking struggles, I’m not sure if a 45-yard FG was a given.

Comment by Mailman 11.24.12 @ 1:07 pm

Rushel looked speedy on that run.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 1:09 pm

Fumbling again…Tino u bonehead!

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 1:11 pm

Classic Tino

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 1:11 pm

Tino Sunseri representing himself well on Senior day with a fumble on the 1. Please graduate Tino. Please.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:11 pm

Just when you think.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 1:12 pm

F%!* Tino!

Comment by San Diego Panther 69 11.24.12 @ 1:12 pm

Unfrigginbelievable. As a friend of mine coined the phrase, that was a “Pittypical” play.

Comment by Kenny Powers 11.24.12 @ 1:12 pm

Microcosm of Sunseri’s career. Decent between the 20’s and fumbles the snap on the 2 yard line.

Comment by dallas mike 11.24.12 @ 1:12 pm

Get his ass out of there!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 1:12 pm

I’m thinking that’s the game folks.

JUst HAD to get some points off that field position after the last series foulup.

We just lost 10 a minimum…should be 17-0.

payback from easy td, db going wrongway on td pass

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 1:13 pm

God, what did we do to be continuously punished by Sunseri?

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 11.24.12 @ 1:13 pm

I don’t know it Turnley or Tino, but it sucks! A Bad snap cost them the Notre Dame game and a fumble off a bad exchange on 3 costs a touchdown.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 1:14 pm

Tino the Knucklehead.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 11.24.12 @ 1:14 pm

way to go Ray

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 1:20 pm

Ray Graham airmails it home from the 1. Booyah!

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:20 pm

Red Zone, luckily Pitt scores before Tino can do some new bonehead move….

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 11.24.12 @ 1:21 pm

i was going to say do a qb sneak…but then i remembered who was qb….lmao

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 1:21 pm

The reality is this program takes a huge leap the day Tino walks the stage and graduates from Pitt. A good recruiting class and some coaching stability and we’ll be competitive our first year in the ACC.

Comment by ABomb 11.24.12 @ 1:21 pm

Tino absolved

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 1:21 pm

Ok we can’t let these buttheads from buttgers score before the HALF !!!!!!

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 1:22 pm

Let’s hope our defence continues to play well!


Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 1:23 pm

Agreed ABomb.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 1:23 pm

Oklahomeboy, we’re you from? I graduated from Pitt and was stationed at Tinker from 05-10. Still have a house in Edmond.

Comment by ABomb 11.24.12 @ 1:27 pm

Serious question: was Tino the Magnificent booed at home on Senior Day? TV didn’t cover the intros.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 11.24.12 @ 1:27 pm

Who is 84?

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 1:28 pm

How is this Rutgers team 9-1? Weak Big East? No non-con opponents? Or just perhaps we are the best 4-6 team in the country?

Comment by ABomb 11.24.12 @ 1:29 pm

great use of screens today

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 1:29 pm

In Lawton at Fort Sill. Been here 3 years, lived in PA all my life. Class of 76

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 1:31 pm

84 = Ed Tinker

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:33 pm

Haha, who is 84? lol … TD Panthers!

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:34 pm

Wow. As much as this game is great to watch, sad to think how much of this season has been pissed away.

Comment by ABomb 11.24.12 @ 1:34 pm

Tino is forgiven!

Comment by San Diego Panther 69 11.24.12 @ 1:34 pm



Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 1:35 pm

A rare Ed Tinker sighting,Street must be out.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 1:35 pm

sunseri redeemed, great half, awesome defense

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 1:35 pm

No one should be criticizing Tino today

Comment by TMG Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:36 pm

Amen Abomb. But the team, as much as i hate to say it is still developing. And Chryst. And the staff. The bye week was huge, methinks.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:36 pm

Does anyone think this game is a sure thing?

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 1:37 pm

Street took a hell of hit early in the 2nd…played one series then went out.

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 1:37 pm

Sure wish we’dda gotten that 4th TD. The way our defense is playing today, not even Tino Sackseri can blow that bigga lead.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 11.24.12 @ 1:38 pm

TMG…you are wrong! A redshirt Sr quarterback should not be fumbling on the 1. Should not be taking bad sacks. Yes Santino has his bright spots, but damn it he’s still a bonehead.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:38 pm

just run the clock out…we got a 14 point lead..not the time for a stupid turnover and let them get on the board

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 1:39 pm

OK, I do. Rutgers’ offense is shite and our def is dominating.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 11.24.12 @ 1:40 pm

Lets see the third quarter before we make any hasty judements, eh?

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 1:41 pm

I would have loved to have a 4 toutchdown lead, but I’m pleased how they used the clock and got the 3rd touchdown. When I think I would have kicked a field goal on 2nd down.

I guess I tipped my hand, as to which team I’m rooting for.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 1:42 pm

If Rutgers scores on their first possession I am going to start drinking. Stoli martinis!

Comment by Oklahomeboy 11.24.12 @ 1:45 pm

Rutgers has been a second half team all year – need to keep it up.

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 1:49 pm

Ed Tinker, cousin of Aaron Donald, great game so far couzes.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 1:50 pm

Hold your breath folks. Rutgers has spotted us 21 points and we s have Tino on the field. Good news is that Tino isn’t playing from behind.

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 11.24.12 @ 1:52 pm

Two Halftime OT Questions: Does anyone think USC has a chance tonight? Who would you want to see ND play in the championship game?

Comment by cnorwoodaz 11.24.12 @ 1:54 pm

I’m glad Chryst didn’t listen to you Emel.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 11.24.12 @ 1:54 pm

I’m not a Tino the apocalypse guy, but I earnestly believe this program gets a huge weight lifted off their shoulders next year. Attendance increases by 5K in 2013 automatically. Chapman, Voytik, or Savage is worth a +3 in the W column next year.

Comment by ABomb 11.24.12 @ 1:55 pm

Great day for Pitt to show up and play like the ND game with Boyd & Foster visiting. Boyd was going to visit UPS today but canceled for Pitt. Beautiful…

Comment by Jackagain 11.24.12 @ 2:00 pm

Does anyone know the cell phone numbers of Boyd or Foster? If yes, please send them a TM of glad tidings & great joy: that Tino will be gone next year!

Thus, no need for them to have hands transplanted onto their ankles, or arms extenstions either….

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 11.24.12 @ 2:09 pm

Left hash is harper’s good hash.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 2:17 pm

Harper even getting into the action today! Keep playing fundamental. HTP!

Comment by JAM 05 Pitt 11.24.12 @ 2:19 pm

Attack attack ATTACK!!!!

Comment by Houston Panther 11.24.12 @ 2:19 pm

Atlanta, would have been nice if we thought about that vs ND.

Comment by panther94 11.24.12 @ 2:20 pm

keep running the clock, a nice long drive will win this game, by us of course

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 2:26 pm

who are these refs?

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 2:28 pm

Donald great, fRutgers doing pitt imitation,uses a lot of clock

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 2:31 pm

Well panther94 the neat thing about football…is that you learn something every game. You know. We keep learning and growing and getting better. I mean, you know you’d have think as a head coach, I’d have recognized that all of kevin’s kicks seem to hook to the right, but i’ve never coached a big game before, but I learned. And I think that’s really neat.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 2:34 pm

Definitely neat, Coach.

Comment by panther94 11.24.12 @ 2:35 pm

Chryst called a play to the left. Graham inexplicably cut it back to the right. Facts are neat also.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 11.24.12 @ 2:37 pm

You gotta have shell in for the tuff yardage.

Comment by nathan young 11.24.12 @ 2:43 pm

Fair point mr Norwood. And if he’d cut it back to the right on any one of the last two offensive plays, we’d probably still have the ball

Comment by AtlantaPanther 11.24.12 @ 2:44 pm

Defense needs to step up.

Comment by markp 11.24.12 @ 2:45 pm

We need a stop and a long drive where is Shell???

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 2:45 pm

I also agree that shell is the guy to get you the tough yard inside

Comment by AtlantaPanther 11.24.12 @ 2:45 pm

Wonder how much Rutgers is paying these refs..

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 2:49 pm

wow, must be our day

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 2:49 pm

Hail to Pitts

Comment by DJS 11.24.12 @ 2:50 pm

might get my birthday present.

keep calm

hail to pitt

Comment by pittkeith 11.24.12 @ 2:50 pm

We dodged a bullet. We could have Gary Nova in the mix for starting QB next year. #NovaTime

Comment by cnorwoodaz 11.24.12 @ 2:50 pm

Did Joey Galloway (2nd announcer) go into hibernation?? Or is he busy watching that ‘oTHEr GAME’. Maybe just like his days in the NFL, he’s running out of bounds!

Comment by giffer-in-Htown 11.24.12 @ 2:51 pm

Shell pounds it for a first down. Pretty neat

Comment by AtlantaPanther 11.24.12 @ 2:53 pm

Come on guys just go down the field and finally put a game away this year

Comment by Deepelemblues 11.24.12 @ 2:57 pm

Pitt ball at mid-field. Let’s see they can close this one out!

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 3:00 pm

Is it too early to light the cigars and pour the good stuff?

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 3:02 pm

Smoke ’em if you got ’em. #H2Pitt

Comment by cnorwoodaz 11.24.12 @ 3:03 pm

Dominate performance

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by gc 11.24.12 @ 3:08 pm

This team with Tom Savage’s cannon next year could win ten games.

Comment by Hurriquake 11.24.12 @ 3:08 pm

The field doesn’t look bad after those games yesterday. Glad it didn’t rain like it was supposed to do.

I wonder what team is going to show up for the S. Florida game?

Comment by Jackagain 11.24.12 @ 3:08 pm

Pitts for TD?? Noooooooooooooo

Comment by giffer-in-Htown 11.24.12 @ 3:11 pm

Good Senior Day for Ray, 115 yards rushing and a TD, 50 yards receiving, one tackle, even 15 penalty yards.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 11.24.12 @ 3:13 pm

10-15K fans at the game…looks like last night there.

Comment by Jackagain 11.24.12 @ 3:18 pm

how good is this we might make a bowl yet
looking good billy ray

Comment by FRANKCAN 11.24.12 @ 3:23 pm

My heart jumped out of my chest when Lafyette Pitts just missed the interception/touchdown!!!

That’s OK he had a BIG interception and run-back earlier.


Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 3:25 pm

Forget savage. This has gotta be voytiks team next year. Let’s not make the same mistake we did with flacco.

Comment by Deepelemblues 11.24.12 @ 3:26 pm

I missed the game…
Between shopping and putting my daughter through a track workout. A friend called me and told me Pitt was ahead… I said… BS…
My goodness.. what happened… Pitt won… !!!
To quote Chryst…
Pitt is consistently.. inconsistent..

Comment by Joe D 11.24.12 @ 3:30 pm

Didn’t realize our D was that good. lol

Nova was worse than Tino.

That was the worst 9-1 team I’ve EVER seen.
Will take the win even though it means another possible tino game.

Guess they want to make sure he gets by Palko on the all-time passing list. Why else would PC be calling passing plays with 6 minutes to go and then 3 minutes to go ? No other reason I can think of, how about some of you geniuses.

Well at least the Buttgers did PC’s job for him, he dialed up nothing but running plays when they go the ball back. lol

Anyway on to South Florida and perhaps….

another trip to……..Birmingham. lmao


Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 3:35 pm

Tino “Marino” Sunseri.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 3:36 pm

I’m just happy to see them play a really solid game against farly good opponent. Let’s see if they can do the same at South Florida and close out the season on a high note. Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 3:45 pm

Injuries: Street to hospital with rib injury.

Comment by alcofan 11.24.12 @ 3:57 pm

Glad to see Tino have a good game. I just hope he doesn’t ruin it by saying something stupid.

Comment by Chris 11.24.12 @ 3:58 pm

That was sweet gotta admit, more than likely the LAST EVER meeting between PITT & Buttgers.

As Buttgers would never schedule PITT non-con, it would upset their steady diet of pathetic non-con games, with Howard (5 of last 8 yrs), NC A & T, Norfolk State, Army, Texas Southern, Morgan State & others to numerous to name.

Bye Bye Scarlett Fever, enjoy being the new Indiana or Minnesota (ie. doormat) of the Little 11.

Today showed what a fraud Buttgers is, as PITT could have easily had 40 something points. And Buttgers is the epitome of how a school can fraudulently build up a resume of (supposed) good(8 or more wins) seasons with a steady diet of cupcake schedules and 4rth tier bowl games.

Almost would lead one to believe, with conf. realignment going to be a given, many years ago.
That this was all part of some plan to legitimize Buttgers football. Because for the prior 60 years they were a joke of a program even playing a steady diet of the Lehigh’s, LaFayette’s and Monmouths of the world.

Contrary to what ESPN & Beth Movins & Joey Galloway would tell you. lol

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 3:59 pm

Donald & Thomas were tremendous. What a difference Thomas has made in the D since he got back. It’s great to have some speed at the ootside LB position.

Comment by RayHpgh 11.24.12 @ 4:01 pm

Agreed Emil…..I hope I never see them again. I hope they wind up like Boston College. Go L’Ville on Thursday. I hate Buttgers….

Comment by Jackagain 11.24.12 @ 4:05 pm

This just in from The Onion – Big 10, after watching Pitt/Rutgers, arranges a team trade with the ACC.

Comment by Pitt Dad 11.24.12 @ 4:15 pm

win 2 more go ahead make my day 2 more we end up 7 and 6 go to acc on a wining note.

Comment by FRANKCAN 11.24.12 @ 4:21 pm

Headline on Yahoo’s NCAAF page

PITT crushes No. 21 Rutgers 27-6

from the story:

There were no such problems for the Panthers, who have been an enigma in coach Paul Chryst’s first season, haphazardly alternating good and bad performances regardless of the quality of the opponent.

Which leads me to comment: (sort of)

It’s a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma!

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 4:28 pm

Great game.
Why is this team so up and down? There are some really good players on this team.
College football is so inconsistent.
PC soon gets some time over the winter to develop a really consistent team.

Comment by Frank MD 11.24.12 @ 4:37 pm

Now if Penn State and Notre Dame lose, it makes a great college sports weekend. I’m glad Pitt put the But back in gers. H2P!

Comment by TX Panther 11.24.12 @ 4:40 pm

I am pulling for ND, an ACC school. Do not want too see 2 SEC schools in chanmpionship.

Comment by RayHpgh 11.24.12 @ 4:42 pm

this is poping up in more places acc to take 3 big east schools go to 16 who knows but the posts
are out there may be.

Comment by FRANKCAN 11.24.12 @ 4:44 pm

For those of you concerned about PITT winning in the ACC how’s this fact for you all:

ACC Championship game next week
FSU vs a 6-6 Georgia Tech team

Guess which division we are joining? You got it. The side with the 6-6 GT team representing them in the ACC championship game.

Granted both UNC and Miami have post season bans (both have 7 wins but that isn’t any real dominance)

Looks like GOD may be rewarding us for our patience.


Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 11.24.12 @ 4:48 pm

Is it just me, or has big Mr Arthur Doakes look pretty solid?

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 11.24.12 @ 4:51 pm

PITT fans take shots at Tino Sunseri even as he’s leading the team to a 21-0 halftime lead. Just prefect!

Sunseri played a fine game today as he has in other games this season also. He makes bonehead plays but it would be nice to read his critics to give just a bit of credit where it’s due – and that would be for his play today.

Comment by Reed 11.24.12 @ 4:56 pm

Sorry Reed, our QB play was very average today. If you define his play as good, you and I are opearinbg on a completely differenebt scale.

Comment by RayHpgh 11.24.12 @ 5:02 pm

Not a Tino fan, but he played well today against a very good defense. A sack where he should have dumped the ball, and what else was on him? No INT’s again, efficient in short passing game, nice TD pass. Give him his due. He went out in style today, and we should hope he’s at this level or better for the next 2 (yes, 2) games.

Comment by velvil 11.24.12 @ 5:07 pm

Tino is the “major reason” that we are 5-6 and desperately needing a win on Saturday to qualify go a bowl. A 5th year senior 3 yr starter shod carry teams on his back. Instead we get his implosions each game. Today was another example. Fumbles on 1 yrd line? I’m sorry but 5th year senior 3 yr starters don’t allow those things to occur. He simply isn’t a winner. We need a winner.
Next weekend he has an opportunity to lead this team to a critical win over a 3 win bad USF team. Many PITT fans are holding their breath. Truth is … You are one of them :)

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 11.24.12 @ 5:08 pm


Good to see you posting. I think your previous work writing articles for Pitt Blather was excellent. Any chance you’ll get back to doing that anytime soon?

Comment by Navy Panther 11.24.12 @ 5:09 pm

It was a “good Tino” game. We were always ahead and he never had to make a long throw! Although the touch pass to Tinker in the EZ was 20 yards, it was among Tino’s best throws ever.

Pitt sadly showed their potential today. Still, the entire coaching staff and players (including Tino) deserve credit for a terrific game.


Comment by Dan 72 11.24.12 @ 5:09 pm

Barkley isn’t playing for USC, I’d be shocked if ND lost. And so would the networks as ND vs whoever is going to be a ratings bonanza.

You add in the “jobbed” games factor against PITT, Stanford and BYU, they would all go for naught.

I’m thinking ND vs Georgia is going to be the NC game. As this gives ND a much more legitimate shot to win. And those two teams have a history together.

Anyway since we almost beat ND and they’re helping keep the ACC afloat, I’ll be rooting for the Domers.

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 5:13 pm

Reed – Tino gets credit for the win. He made some nice throws and didn’t make too many mistakes – only took a couple sacks and only fumbled in the red zone once. In a way he personifies this team – when he’s good, he’s pretty good, but damn it he just lets you down way too often. But I do believe he deserves one more shot at the BBVA Compass Bowl. And I will travel there to say farewell in person. And after that game I will be extremely satisfied never to see him under center again. Hail to Pitt.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 5:14 pm

Btw,….where has Ed Tinker been the whole season.

Guy catches the longest Tino pass for a TD (sans yac) all year and that had to be his first catch of the season.

Congrats Mr. Tinker !
Cudo’s to Sir Tino, he’s almost got the nosedive down perfect without fumbling. lol

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 5:17 pm

lol Atlanta Panther

You can sit in between Sal & Roxy, they have their seats reserved already. :-)

So I’m guessing everyone stays at the Holiday Inn – Birmingham. For I’m sure there’s no Ritz-Carlton or even a Westin in that megalopolis .

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 5:21 pm

Emel, you’d be surprised; metro Birmingham area has 1+ million. Birmingham is a regional banking and commercial center. Better accommodations, bars and restaurants than you apparently think. Of course, it’s not Pittsburgh, and it would be great to go somewhere new.

Comment by velvil 11.24.12 @ 5:29 pm

Yea I only found one (1) four star place. the Renaissance Birmingham Golf Resort & Spa.

But it’s like way south of Birmingham on the beltway, by some place called Hoover.

Does appear to be an older Hotel along the lines of the William Penn in downtown Birmingham, called The Belmont. Probably rather stay there and be able to walk around the downtown area, watering holes and then take a taxi to the stadium. Unless enough Blathers show up. we can get a Limo (fully stocked). Frankcan can bartend.

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 5:36 pm

Has Tinker been hurt of is Street so much better? But still he needs to play more because he seems to know how to get to the ball even if its not close.

Comment by Frank MD 11.24.12 @ 5:48 pm

er I mean The Redmont Hotel

This place is only 15 minutes from Legion Field.

And….has Birmingham’s ONLY ROOFTOP Bar !

Partially enclosed and open till 2 am nitely.

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 5:49 pm

Just went on a trip to Birmingham for work. Hoover is a really nice area – I stayed at the Hyatt there. Think of Robinson or Ross Park. And it only took 20 minutes to drive from the airport to the hotel – the highways there are all 3-4+ lanes with a speed limit of 70.

Comment by Jason 11.24.12 @ 5:59 pm

The Redmont Hotel – 3 star rating – 15 stories,
-Rooftop Bar – 15 minutes from Legion.

Looks like winner !

Plus it’s right downtown so you can check out Birmingham, the historical sites are right around it. It’d be like staying at the Westin-William Penn instead of the Marriot-Monroeville.

Don’t know about you but I much prefer staying in the downtowns of cities instead of the burbs.

But thanks for the info Jason.


Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 6:12 pm

Looks like BE can have either 4 or 5 or 6 bowl teams. LO, RUT, CN, SY in then CT and Pitt. There are 6 tie ins for BE in bowls.

My guess RUT to BCS, SY to Pinstripe, CN to Belk, LO to Russell, Pitt and CT (if in) to Beef o Brady or BBVA. If CT loses maybe Pitt to Beef o Brady vs CUSA..

Comment by Frank MD 11.24.12 @ 6:27 pm

@Pitt fan in Atlanta

Count me in there of holding my breath next week, USF is no gimme.

Comment by WLAT and the Big Beat 11.24.12 @ 6:30 pm

Kinda be ironic if Pitt ends up in the Compass Bowl again.

Since the program has been directionless(Compass, as in need of, get it) since
DW got asked to resign, (ie. the boot).

Now on the other hand if we get a Beef O’Brady invite, maybe that means we found our direction.

Think I would prefer St. Pete to Birmingham.
Ya think !

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 6:56 pm

what’s the chance one of these bowls will find a way to get Pitt and WVU? Seems to me it would draw better than some of the other matchups that come to be.

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 11.24.12 @ 7:03 pm

St. Pete is kind of a rough town. A port city if you will. Full of drunkards and brawlers. Birmingham on the other hand is full of quaint southern charm. But hey, lets just win against South Florida. The seniors on this team deserve it.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 11.24.12 @ 7:09 pm


Think the Pinstripe gets the 4rth pick in the BE pecking order. That’s the only one with a Big 12 tie-in.

So…Rutgers or L-ville get the (1)BCS, the other gets the (2)Champs Sports Bowl thing or whatever they call that now. (Russell Athletic Bowl,lol)
The (3)Belk Bowl in Charlotte gets the next pick.
Then (4) Pinstripe Bowl has next choice

And then these 3 Bowls will use 2 BigEast teams.
(5) Liberty Bowl
(6) Beef O’Bradys Bowl
(7) BBVA Compass (otherwise known as the ESPN rent a cheap-available hardly used college stadium bowl, usually featuring TV ratings beast PITT !)

After the BCS Bowl, bowls are free to choose ANY BigEast team, regardless of record. These numbers next to the bowls just represent when they get to pick a team (pecking order if u like)

We’ll have more to choose from next year, I believe !

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 7:17 pm

Rutgers playcalling/offensive scheme was very Wanny-esque today.

Comment by Flip2Script 11.24.12 @ 7:18 pm

I was thinking more on the lines of the weather,
Atlanta Panther. St Pete is still pretty warm, whereas Birmingham isn’t. Plus St. Pete might get a few more Pitt folk there.

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 7:20 pm

I’ve seen some projections marcus…they are saying Syracuse looks like the Pinstripe Bowl.

Which would make sense since they have a lot of alumni in NYC area and it’s not terribly far from their campus. Now had we beaten them, like we should have….we could have been going there to play the Billies.

Comment by Emel 11.24.12 @ 7:23 pm

I stuck around after the game while the band played the fight song… Ray Graham climbed up the drum major’s ladder and conducted…pretty neat.

Comment by Joe Lawrence 11.24.12 @ 8:07 pm

I was listening to the Rutgers athletic director at halftime talking about how the Big Ten was more concerned about the academics over the TV markets. Rutgers was 9 and 1 by playing an easy schedule. I hope they are happy with the two crappy football programs. To my thinking the big winner here is Indiana. They will no longer be the worse team in the conference.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 8:11 pm

Went to the game today. Some thoughts, dudes…

1. Cold (and it was COLD) and maybe the holiday season kept the attendance down quite a bit. Student section was noticeably smaller, but again…Thanksgiving likely had a say in that. But the crowd was pretty engaged in the game, so that was good to see/hear.

2. Is there a college program out there that has gotten more mileage out of what was really just one great season than Rutgers, at least in terms of over-inflated national perception? I’m not sure that there is. As someone else already mentioned above, that may have been the worst 9-1 team I’ve ever seen.

3. Then again, they’re the ones going to the BCS bowl game this year, so maybe I should shut up.

4. Naaahhhhh. Good riddance.

5. Thought Pitt did a terrific job stopping the run today – just 50 rushing yards on 24 carries for Rutgers. And Gary Nova really does scream “Wannstedt QB” when you watch him.

6. What happened to Savon Huggins? He was considered to be one of the best five backs in the country in his recruiting class. I know he never redshirted, so he’s still relatively young but he just hasn’t managed to assert himself much at all this year.

7. Comments about Pitt’s inconsistency this year – I think it’s really a reflection of the makeup of this team. It’s a young team whose veteran players are on their third system in as many years. They don’t have a dynamic QB that could get the offense over the hump in critical spots. They were ridiculously young at some spots – particularly on defense. In a sense, it’s kind of encouraging. Two significant play-makers on offense are true freshmen (Shell, Holtz). The best linebacker is a sophomore (Todd Thomas) and defensive back on the team is a redshirt freshman (L. Pitts). The entire defensive line returns next year.

This is a big reason why I’d still like to see them get to a bowl game, whether it’s the BBVA Compass Bowl, the JokeCity Bowl, the Irrelevant Early Christmas Season Bowl or whatever. The young players on this team couldn’t be hurt by another game’s worth of experience.

Comment by Stoosh 11.24.12 @ 8:36 pm

Guys I was as thrilled as anyone with today’s win. BUT the Panthers have to beat South Florida, before talking about bowl games. They played an outstanding game in South Bend, where the officials took the game away from them, and followed it with a very poor performance. They need to follow this game with another srong game. Then they will be bowl elegible and we can talk about a bowl game.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 8:48 pm

Last thought for today’s game is this, and I want to leave this on its own…

Some REALLY emotional moments after the game today.

We were in Section 132 near the band. After the game, the team made its way over to that corner of the stadium and you could see on the faces of some of the seniors players how much playing this last game at home meant. Ray Graham got up and directed the band in the fight song. A bunch of the seniors hugged Band Director Jack Anderson (retiring…today was his last home game, too).

Jacobson, Turnley and Taglianetti looked visibly moved by everything, Tags especially. He apparently got really choked up during some interviews with the local networks. He then did a spot live with Bostick on the post-game show and had a hard time answering when Hillgrove (chiming in from the booth) asked him about moving on after the season eventually ends. Bostick tried to lighten it up, mentioning Taglianetti’s internship with the Penguins, but Tags really struggled through the rest of the interview.

It’s often easy to forget that 1) these kids all have such a relatively short time in the program and 2) the vast majority of them end their football careers here. Having played the game through high school and walking away after my senior season, I still remember what I felt during that last home game (we lost…no post-season). I can’t even imagine what that must be like at this level.

This group of seniors probably deserve something a lot better than the 7-6 finish they could get this year. But I’m glad they got the sendoff they did in front of the home crowd today, and I’m glad I was there to see it.

Comment by Stoosh 11.24.12 @ 8:48 pm

It’s amusing how some of you are already checking out places to stay in Birmingham when we still need to win one more game, on the road on their Senior day. I’ll be there rooting for Pitt but there is no way I think USF will lay down for us.

Comment by OrlandoAlum 11.24.12 @ 8:52 pm

Stoosh – that was an astute an analysis as I have heard about Pitt’s season. Jack Anderson was one of the best band directors in the country. My season tickets at Pitt Stadium were in front of his wife and family. His showdowns with Steve Pederson were legendary …He got NO support at all from Pederson…ever and did not want him to come back a second time.

Will we ever send that jackass Pederson packing? He must have something on the administration.

Comment by Dan 72 11.24.12 @ 9:00 pm

Funny game, football. So many Chryst haters questioning his timeout usage when he tried to score late in halves in prior games, yet this game, they go for it again at the end of the first half and they get points. It’s a mindset and I like it!

Surprisingly, all those who mocked the coach for earlier clock management issues….are silent. Let him coach fellas, he will get the job done.

Also liked Tinker in there. He looks smooth, not fast.The Saddler collision was just violent and to me, turned the game in our favor from a running perspective. Glad to see Cam not injured.

Pitt really needs extra practice time under the Chryst system, so a bowl appearance would be welcome if we can get past USF.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 11.24.12 @ 9:01 pm

Great defensive effort and just enough offense to keep it from getting too close for comfort. This young defense has really improved greatly since game 1, and they are almost all underclassmen. HTP!

Comment by San Diego Panther 69 11.24.12 @ 9:15 pm

dhuffdaddy, He did a hell of job and the dividend was a touchdown in the closing seconds of the first half. I would have kicked a field goal when he had 13 left. Kudos to him for going for it. He plays to win and he’s not a conservative play caller like Wanny was.

Comment by Justinian 11.24.12 @ 9:19 pm

Just got back, had to go to some relatives afterwards.

Great game, enjoyed it immensely.

If we could have a team, with a roster of 22 J.P.Holtz’s, we’d be on our way.

That kid is pure football nasty!!!

Comment by Dan 11.24.12 @ 9:32 pm

Anybody know how I can see a replay? No DVR.

Comment by panther94 11.24.12 @ 9:36 pm

I sat near the guy who held up the “FIRE STEVE” sign while chanting “Pitt deserves better”.
They let him go awhile before asking him to put it down. It was awkward. Security said people were complaining, but that was a lie. No one complained. He asked the people I’d they wanted it down. A chorus of “No”. Was heard.
But he is right.
Pitt deserves better!
The crowd was embarrassingly small.
A man in front if me asked “who is Steve”. He was sincere. When I answered him, I pointed to the empty seats and said, “empty seats don’t pay bills”. “Not in any business” he replied matter of factly.
Cyanide Steve has to be one if the highest paid people in the University: His job is to manage and raise money and he is worse than a failure.
He owes this team and the university, alums and fans an apology. It should be contained in his letter of resignation.
Pitt played very well today; especially the defense.
Too bad this group of seniors had 6 head coaches and 1 highly incompetent AD.
They gave much more than they got back, IMO.
Shame on Pederson. He is stealing money if he accepts a paycheck.

Comment by SFPitt 11.24.12 @ 9:47 pm

panther94, try ESPN3. They have replays. Or, sometimes on Sundays or during the week ESPNU may replay the game.

From our seats high in the stadium, it looked like Aaron Donald was being held on every single play, yet they still smacked around the Rutgers running game. Tremendous defensive effort, and no rattles from Tino – he played a solid game.

Comment by KeyboardKev 11.24.12 @ 9:56 pm

Tino did not play well.
Took a silly sack in 2nd when rolling right ..throw it away.
Fumbled the damn snap at the goal line.
Threw behind Shanahan twice. was not a good day. It was a C+ day.
The defense won the game.

Comment by SFPitt 11.24.12 @ 9:56 pm

Thanks keyboardkev, but blacked out.

Comment by panther94 11.24.12 @ 9:59 pm

Nice win especially on senior day…they actually looked like they were having fun out there which is nice to see after all that this class has gone through the past 4 years…

Also neat to really spank Rutgers in our last game with them and send them off to the B1G with a thorough beat down…they are definitely B1g material! (hee hee hee)….

Lets win next week then off to the Beef Brains O’Brady Bowl for the last time…Hail To Pitt!

Comment by Leaseman 11.24.12 @ 10:01 pm

Post-Gazette Headline for the game:

Sunseri passes Pitt to 27-6 win over No. 21 Rutgers

Paragraph in the Trib article for the game:

Sunseri was among several stars on offense, completing 21 of 39 passes for 227 yards and two touchdowns to stretch his nation-leading active streak of consecutive throws without an interception to 245 (81?4 games).

The haters aren’t even the least bit honest or objective, and they attack anybody who is. Hell, Wannstedt is still blamed that Sunseri remains the starter two years and two head coaches after he coached his last game.

I was at the game today and happened to be on the corner of the end zone where Shanahan and Tinker caught their TD passes. Those were both very good throws. The kind that that the haters love to bash Sunseri for not being able to throw. There was also another long pass down the same sideline that Tinker should have come up with. Another throw that Sunseri is bashed for. Yes, he took two dumb sacks.

They crushed Rutgers today. Sunseri played a key part. It was senior day. Can’t you praise him for that?

Gary Nova sucked big time today. That pick to Pitts was terrible. It wasn’t the only bad throw. It’s a shame Pitt only has Sunseri. I know a lot of the haters have wished Pitt had gotten Nova.

Comment by Barvo 11.24.12 @ 10:06 pm

Oh yeah, and the defense was awesome today. Aaron Donald and Todd Thomas played great. Lafayette Pitts was also excellent. That PI on him was complete BS. I also thought Shane Gordon had a strong game.

With all those guys coming back the D may be strong again next year.

Comment by Barvo 11.24.12 @ 10:13 pm

Well said Barvo. Bravo!

Comment by Pitt2Cali 11.24.12 @ 11:24 pm

The yellow seats, allthough expected, are exceptionally embarrassing on senior day.

Steve, you moved us there. You said you’d get fans.

Facts is facts my friend.

Too big?? You said it wasn’t.

You can’t blame fans for not coming, players, or coaches.

All of these things above have answers, winning, better players helps winning, no coaching carousel gives stability.

All of these decsiions, trickle down, from decisions that you have made Smug Smile Steve.

Absolutely embarrassing.

Great effort by the team in those conditions.

Comment by Dan 11.24.12 @ 11:35 pm

I wonder what they talk about at the game.

Nordy, Steve, Ath.Dept people, looking at the yellow abyss???

Probably don’t even acknowledge it I guess.

Comment by Dan 11.24.12 @ 11:36 pm

@FRANKCAN, that scenario you mentioned would be a nightmare for ticket sales.

With Coach Chryst hopefully getting our winning ways back, and the lure of an ACC schedule with some new interesting teams, things may have looked ok.

If they add UCONN, Louisville and Cincinnati, you can guarantee they’ll go to a North-South conference division alignment.

Boston College
Va. Tech

It would be back to a Big East schedule with the Virginia’s and maybe one game from the South.

Not good.

Hopefully they only go to 14 or have something more sexy lined up if they go to 16.

We just broke away from a Big East schedule, holy crap would that be kick in the teeth.

Fight and sweat and worry all this time, to finally be saved by the ACC, only to be in the Big East division. Back to Storrs??????


Comment by Dan 11.24.12 @ 11:57 pm

Yeah LUV PITTBULLS looks pretty foolish

Comment by Dylan 11.24.12 @ 11:58 pm

@Dylan, ya, really!!

@luvpittbulls, there was in fact a beat down.

Every facet of the game, a beat down was givin!!!!

Some say you’re a troll??? I don’t know if you are or you’re not.

If you are, then, most likely a WVU or PSU troll.

In that case, you have nothing to be trolling about.

WVU??? ha ha ha. You had your reservations for the NC game a month ago, and were deciding what Geno Smith should wear to the Heisman Awards???

ha ha LMAO!!!

If Penn State. Actually, a great season, and those kids deserve a pat on the back for that season with all of that adversity.

However, the toilet has just been flushed. Over the next 3 to 4 years, with the loss of scholarships, the swirl at the bottom of the toilet bowl will becoming all too real, very, very soon.

If you are, in fact, a Pitt fan, shame on you for that post.

Comment by Dan 11.25.12 @ 12:34 am

I’m feeling pretty good about where both the football and basketball teams are heading. The future of Pitt athletics looks bright.

Comment by Vulcan Rob 11.25.12 @ 12:51 am

Just want to point out Pitt took the #1, undefeated team in the country to three overtimes. (Sorry, still stings for me too.)

I’m bumping my expectations for next year to “moderate”.

Comment by tacocat 11.25.12 @ 1:48 am

Here’s the deal with Tino Sunseri… I’ll be the first to hold the door open for him and say “Thanks for your efforts as our QB”… then lock the door after he’s gone.

It is just ridiculous that some fans are so emotionally involved in hating Sunseri and anything he does that they can’t take a step back and look at his results on the field and give him credit when he does well.

It isn’t either black or white in sports. Sometimes players do well and sometimes they don’t. The star players do well way more often than not and the average and poor players don’t. But that doesn’t mean that the average players – which Sunseri is all told – can’t be given a fair shake when they make good things happen.

To exactly what ‘QB standard’ are we holding up Sunseri’s game yesterday? When we say say that a winning two TD, 227 yard passing game with no interceptions is a poor outing? Really? Because he got sacked and missed some passes that erases the decent results he did get?

One thing we PITT fans have to realize is that all of these ‘new’ QBs we’ll have on roster next year are either coming back from being out of college football for two years (Savage, who wasn’t doing that well beforehand anyway) or completely untested at this level. It may very well be the case that we will look back over our shoulders at Sunseri’s 2012 season and wish we were getting the same level of QB play in 2013. Nothing is guaranteed.

Comment by Reed 11.25.12 @ 6:42 am

Reed, well said. Moreover, I recall that Savage had some issues at Rutgers competing with Dodd and Nova for the sarong QB job. Does Savage have a problem with competition. I hope not because competition shoud be strong next year.

Comment by DJS 11.25.12 @ 8:29 am

About the guy with the fire Steve sign, an awful lot of us feel that way. Particularily after two consecutive botched coaching hires, which hamstrung the program. Of course, in the eyes of the administration Steve Pederson redeemed himself with the ACC bid. I think the ACC bid had more to do with Boston College’s veto of Connecticut, rather than astute moves out the AD’s office. I like Paul Chryst and I think we finally have the right guy in place. Unfortunately it was a “comedy of errors” getting there. The Panthers have shown that they can play well against the better teams. Hopefully if they can run the same systems, unlike the merry-go-round they’ve gone through, they can develop the consistency needed become a good football program again.

Comment by Justinian 11.25.12 @ 8:31 am

It was enjoyable watching the game on TV. If Pitt plays like this more often, filling the seats won’t be an issue. But Stevie does need to go before Pitt lands in the ACC and Pitt script needs to come back. Pitt’s offense should be more exciting but more mistake prone with a new QB next year. The defense will carry the team next year and a healthy dose of Shell. Pitt should beat South Florida and then does it really matter where they play. I guess for those that can get away from the family and make an easy drive. A bowl game does reward the seniors and does make for a good experience for the players and coaches. I can see it as good bonding. Looks like Notre Dame and Alabama in the title game. Pitt should be proud of their effort against the Domers. The potential is there. It just needs to come together. It will with more experience and a Foster and Boyd.

Comment by TX Panther 11.25.12 @ 8:35 am

Amen, Reed. Well said.

Comment by Dinosaur 71 11.25.12 @ 8:35 am

One more thing. I’m still pissed off about the “phantom interference” call and getting homered in South Bend. I wonder how often officials make calls like that, when an undefeated team is involved, and playing before a home crowd?

Comment by Justinian 11.25.12 @ 8:51 am

Oh would I love to see the backyard brawl in da bronx

Comment by steve1 11.25.12 @ 9:21 am

Speaking of homer calls in a funny fashion, as a long time Pitt fan I remember the days before TV replay. Certain teams and conferences ALWAYS seemed to get away with calls that were atrocious.

I still remember a game where a referee’s son played on the team and a wagon came into the stadium with a pile of flags.

Comment by Frank MD 11.25.12 @ 9:29 am

Stoosh, Dylan & Dan, I totally admit I called it wrong. My Pitt pessimism got the best of me of after UCONN. I’m glad they won for the seniors. All that being said I refuse to get excited about a possible 6-6 season and the Beef O’Brady bowl. Or that outcome points to anything regarding the future of the program. If anything I’m even more frustrated by the thought of what could have been this year if just a few things turned out differently. Stoosh, love it that we got Johnson but still see us at a recruiting disadvantage with undefeated OSU next door and Ped U at 8-4. I don’t sense a buzz about this program. In the end hope you guys are right and I’m wrong about the direction we’re headed, but I’ve been through this cycle more than once with this program. We will have to wait and see.

Comment by LUV PITTBULLS 11.25.12 @ 9:37 am

Very well said, Reed. Glad to see the level headed Pitt fans on here after the game. Really pleased with Pitt’s performance yesterday. Where are all of the haters at the top of this thread now? Oh thats right, they only show up to put their favorite team down…… Harder to do that when they win I guess.

Comment by JCE 11.25.12 @ 9:47 am

LUV PITTBULLS–If, “a big if” Pitt beats USF and then can get a win in the “whatever” to finish 7-6 that should solidify a strong finish to this year’s recruiting class. PSU limits on #s of recruits will help and if O’Brien leaves for the NFL in early 2013 that will leave PSU in a big recruiting hole 8-4 season not withstanding. tOSU going 12-0 vs going 9-3 or 10-2 04 11-1 (their annual usual result) will have no more negative effect on Pitt’s recruiting than it has in the past, IMO (i.e., its a wash) and the 25/85 rule prevents tOSU from getting all the good players in their rrecruiting areas anyway.

Comment by pitt1972 11.25.12 @ 10:00 am

@ Reed:
Case in point: Transition from Bill Stull to Tino. I can still hear people crying about Stull, being elated when he graduated, and then desperately pining for the good old days of Mr. Stull.

Comment by MikePITT 11.25.12 @ 10:10 am

The defense was amazing which bodes well for the future. Sunseri played one of his better if not best game. Sunseri’s improvement throwing no interceptions is remarkable.

We will miss Ray Graham, what a recovery from injury. We will be watching him on Sundays.

The defense and Shell will help with the growing pains we experince with a new QB next year. Shanahan will be hard to replace, but Holtz looks like he deserves many more throws. Jacobson and Turnley will be hard to replace, we need Chryst and Company to work their magic. Saddler, Hale, Taglienetti and the other glue guys will be missed.

Yesterday and the ND game convinced me that Chryst is the man for the job. He is certainly not a master of PR, I thought he was going to cry during his post game interview. He is honest and straightforward and recruits and their parents will recognize this. He did a good job with Sunseri, the O-line and overcoming an abysmal start. The play calling yesterday was masterful.

The players executed their assignments extremely well. You can’t say enough about Donald, Thomas and Pitts. Best defensive performance in a long long time.

Please don’t let it go to your heads. a loss in Florida ruins everything positive about the season. It’s hard to be a Pitt Fan. No room for sissies.

Comment by gc 11.25.12 @ 10:42 am

For the “fire Steve” posters here, where should Pitt be playing its games? And if the answer is “on campus,” where might that be, given Oakland’s development and density?

Comment by Velvil 11.25.12 @ 10:53 am

I don’t want him fired because of the stadium, but because of his overall job performance. That being said, they could have moved temporarily while building a new stadium in the same spot as Pitt Stadium. I take it you think he should stay, why?

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 11.25.12 @ 11:26 am

For myself, I didn’t necessarily say “fire Steve”, I simply stated, the yellow seats are totally on him.

I have no idea how else to fill them or where else they could play, I’m not the athletic director.

He stated Heinz Field would be excellent, and he would get fans in there. He stated this himself, i’m not putting words in his mouth.

“ya, well, if this would happen, or if we’d win more games, or if we had a better home schedule, or if this would happen”

No excuses, you’re the boss, you said you’d make it happen.

All I stated, is how embarrassing it is playing with 20K fans and 45K empty yellow seats.

Fire him, don’t fire him, not up to me.

Myself and my family took up 6 seats to block the gold on a friggin cold day yesterday.

Steve said he’d get most of the other ones filled!!!

Comment by Dan 11.25.12 @ 11:55 am

Only option of ever having another stadium on campus would be to fill in Panther Hollow and put the the stadium on top.

Oh yeah, and that would never, ever, happen. Being at Heinz helps more than it hurts.

SP has been frustrating, but after the past few years I am feeling more solid that we are headed in the right direction. We may have gotten here quicker with another AD, but I can’t complain at this moment about heading into the ACC, with a coach who I legitimately like, with some of our youngest student-athletes looking like they will become dominant over their next few years at Pitt. If Pitt / Dorian grabs boyd and/or foster, you’ll be looking at one of the best recruiting classes Pitt has had in years.

We are not, and never will be, a Cinderella team, you can’t make miracles happen over night when your main goal, more than anything, is stability, and second to that, getting better at what you do.

Comment by Benzene 11.25.12 @ 11:57 am

Frankcan, every time I look at a program I wonder where 2 of the freshmen OL’s came from – Consevage and Guy. They don’t show up in the past classes listed on Rivals – do you know if these 2 were walk-on’s? Seems to me we’re going to have 5 O-linemen returning next year with starter experience – if you count Doakes – who while I watched him yesterday seemed to be doing a credible job.

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 11.25.12 @ 12:06 pm

To get Heinz Field packed??? Well, first off, we’re never gonna get 65K to all 6 home games, I think we all know that.

The only sell outs we get are PSU, WVU and ND, with a lot of their fans.

To get nice crowds of 45-55k consistently, I can only think of 3 or 4 things that will make that happen

A. Having a team that wins 9, 10, and 11 games coonsistently, which in turn leads to

b. Consistently being in the top 20 and sometimes even top 10, which in turn leads to

c. Games that matter to people, not just the base, we’re always there, games that matter to the average “Joe Pitt”, who only comes if they’re winning and it’s a big game.

d. having an attractive home schedule. (this shold happen with the ACC) as long as they don’t add Louisville, UCONN AND Cincy to go to 16, which will then put us in the Big East North.

Well, he’s been athletic director for what, 10-11 years or so??????

He’s been the boss for over a decade!!!!

The yellow seats are on him.

Comment by Dan 11.25.12 @ 12:07 pm

Maybe we could play at the Wolverena??? LOL

Comment by Dan 11.25.12 @ 12:11 pm

If the ACC is going to expand, why not add the 3 biggest TV market teams – Houston, SMU & Temple? That should pay off in the long run with the most $ for our conference, whetther its thru TV ratings or an ACC cable channel. And I don’t want to see a Big East North. That would royally suck.

Comment by RayHpgh 11.25.12 @ 12:24 pm

Glad to see the b!@#$%^ and moaning (Tino, Stevie P, playing at Heinz field, the script, etc) right after a nice solid win or I would of thought that I was on the wrong site!…

Hail To Pitt!

Comment by Leaseman 11.25.12 @ 12:39 pm

since i read that you are calling out the “haters” we are still here and yes, sunseri still sucks! and yes, i will still celebrate when he leaves. A couple of solid games, which i give him credit, does not make up for his inconsistency, glad to see we live in america where you can forgive and forget so quickly. pitt in general is going to be better off when this group of seniors graduates. they have been through a lot, no one can deny that, and i give them props for riding things out. heck, feel quite bad for them actually, but it is time to let chryst mold his team with his players. on paper we should have won the big east, but we failed to show up on gamedays. the one thing to take away from this season is the growth and improvement on defense and coaching. it looks like we will be heading in a decent direction and i am excited about that. looks like recruiting for next year is also picking up and it was good to see kids like challingsworth (sp?) tweeting on twitter how excited he was to come to pitt. i share that excitement for the future.

Comment by pittisit37 11.25.12 @ 12:49 pm

Tino was excellent this year at protecting the ball and minimizing mistakes. But, his leadership is questionable. He does have heart and is tough. Although next years quarterback will be more dynamic, have a higher ceiling and may just lead a 4th quarter comeback once or twice, there will be more mistakes. That’s called growing pains. Much like what Chryst experienced this year. But I think the future is bright particularly with Shell and potentially Foster.

Now anyone thinking stevie should stay has got to have their head examined. Stevie is a poor hire of football coaches, alienates alumni and big boosters, does a poor job at fund raising, took away Pitt script, and the olympic sports results are a disaster mainly beacuse it took too long to build facilities and still haven’t hired good coaches due to overall cheapness. I give him credit for razing Pitt stadium, it was a dump, and putting the Pete in its place. I give him credit for the football facilities. I give him partial credit for the ACC and only half blame him for the attendance since if Pitt wins, fans will show and Pitt fans need to be less fair weathered. Posters on this blog I do not consider the casual fan but true diehards. Stevie is being protected by his friend Nordy. When Nordy leaves, Stevie is gone as well. His time has run its course. We need new leaders with fresh ideas for the ACC. And no, an on campus stadium is out of the question.

Comment by TX Panther 11.25.12 @ 1:06 pm

Fire Steve. Why?
Look at his tasks when he took over the job. In football, he started as the beneficiary of 13-9.
Stated publicly that the goal was to fill Heinz Field.
As I looked around yesterday, it seemed to me that the stadium was 20-25% filled.
The announced attendance was 38k.
My left nut!
I hate liars because they always lie. That is why they are liars.
Now Pederson fires Wannstadt. Forget the shitty way it was handled.
Fired him for who? You don’t fire a winning coach unless you are certain to get your man.
So, you either accept that he did not get his man or Haywood was his guy.
Either move is idiocy. But, it was Deja vous for Pederson. He fired Solich years before and then couldn’t find a coach. What happened at Nebraska was repeated at Pitt with Haywood with the added humiliation of Haygood’s firing.
Or, if Haywood was his man then that was the miss of the century.
Then Pederson hires a guy who would never have fit here. Granted, the hire was under pressure, but it was self imposed pressure.
Another disaster.
Pederson has two tasks. Hire the coaches and raise money.
Now someone, anyone on this blog or on this planet tell me if he has performed at even an adequate level and I’ll listen to you.
Chryst was not his hire.
Pederson alienates people because he treats others like they are stupid. Witness the constant lies about attendance. Anderson got out because Pederson has treated him like shit.
Fund raising fir athletics is low, even by Big East standards.
Pederson didn’t start or secure funds for the new athletic complex. Long did that.
Pederson has the responsibility of funding and getting a new track.
Don’t hold your breath.
Pederson is an abject failure at all his core job functions.
I don’t want a new stadium and I ain’t calling for a new one so don’t lay my complaints on that argument.
Empty seats don’t pay bills!!!
End of discussion.

Comment by SFPitt 11.25.12 @ 2:14 pm

The premise of your comment is on giving Sunseri credit for being an average QB. That simpreciselynthe reason that so many think that he has failed us. We don’t need an average QB.
College football is about 3-4 guys dominating and unfortunately the QB position is one of them. Having an average or bad player at that position kills you. (see USC vs ND last night where inexperienced average QB gave you zero point on 5 attempts inside the 5 with the game on the line)

Impersonally like Sunseri but would never want him as my QB. He simply never can show up for a game when you need him. It isn’t in him. Some players are winner and other are not. As much as I hate fraud graham it is obvious that he knew that Tino didn’t have it. Fact is fact.

So what is the standard fir a QB in college? Leading your team to wins. Tebow is a terrible QB but was great in college. Why? Because he could carry his team through leadership. Thismismthe character that we need in a QB. This is why so many fans refuse to give home any real credit. He has yet to LEAD this team. Passing yards alone (against some of the worst competition in the history of PITT football) for a 3 year starter doesn’t earn you my praise. Leading and winning does.

I would personally thank Sunseri for sticking arounfpd and giving PITT 5 years but I am never going to believe that he was good enough. The W’s and L’s prevent me from doing so.

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 11.25.12 @ 3:45 pm

@Leaseman, there are 257 comments on this thread. Most of them were about the game, including my 3 or 4.

Someone brought up a different subject. This usually happens on posts, after the subject has been talked about to death.

Instead of criticizing, why don’t you add something to the conversation.

I rarely see you add anything to the conversation.

Were you even at the game yesterday??? Or did you watch, nice and comfy cozy on the couch????

Comment by Dan 11.25.12 @ 4:34 pm

Let me guess, you don’t comment because it’s always so negative!!! LOL

Comment by Dan 11.25.12 @ 4:36 pm

Pitt v. USF – 7PM Saturday ESPN2 .. win and the Panthers could be in Memphis on New Year’s Eve or Birmingham (again) the first week of January …

Comment by Hoopzebra 11.25.12 @ 6:16 pm

Glad the game is at night. Covered in a blanket at the game Saturday (Yes Pederson I AM A PAYING CUSTOMER) my 9 year old son asked if we were going to the USF game. “It’s in Florida” I replied. “I know” he said smiling.
Lots of coaches walking the plank. NCState, Purdung, Auburn and others I’m sure.
In case no one has noticed, the stakes are being raised in CFB.
Saban makes no bones about the best case scenario being a separation of the top 60 teams from the rest. While you ponder that ponder this.
Is Skip Holtz on the hot seat at USF? I think he has to be.
We get up on this team and and step on their throats, we could rout them.
18-22 year olds aren’t oblivious to what is going on around them.

Comment by sfpitt 11.25.12 @ 7:25 pm

Reed, WADR, Sunseri didn’t win the game yesterday, Pitt’s defense did. They didn’t allow Rutgers on the field long enough for them to gain traction. Witness by Tino barely completing 50% of his passes, a number which allows little if any room for praise. And that despite playing most of the game with a big enough lead to be considered “garbage time” — where a talented QB should have padded his stats.

The best I can say for Tino the Magificent’s effort yesterday? He didn’t take enough of his normal allotment of bonehead sacks — always at the worst possible times — fumbles, and pick-sixes (together known as the “Tino Trifecta”) and 4th Quarter meltdowns to single-handedly give the game away, as we’ve seen him do too many times to count.

I’ve been begging for ABT since the very first time I saw him play 3 years ago, in the Blue-Gold game on NFL Network. All I’d heard via Zeise’s blog in the Post-Gazette was how amazing Sackseri was, albeit then only in practice (I live out west, so PZ’s were my only eyes). I recall my utter shock at watching him in that game: how his weak-armed passes from his far too short stature looked more like pooch punts, that he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with his scatter arm, and so on. I just wish I’dda been wrong on all that.

Pitt needs a guy at QB who knows how to close, not how to choke. I don’t know who will end up being ABT next year, but I’m glad that it’s almost time.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 11.25.12 @ 8:07 pm

Dan…appreciate the comments…

Just making the point that regardless of the subject (football, basketball, expansion, recruiting, etc) or circumstances (win, lose, etc) we inevitably devolve into the negative…

Tino is an average at best QB which we have known for the past three years…he has been crucified here and elsewhere when he plays badly as he should be…but by the same token, as Reed mentioned, when he does a good job he should get credit for that as well…

Peterson is a lousey AD…he should never have been rehired and should have been canned after the Haywood fiasco but to blame him for loss to Youngstown State or Notre Dame or any other loss on the field is ridiculous…

A new on campus stadium in Panther Hollow?…really?…where would the money come from?

I think that just like our football team needs a cultural shift that we fans need one as well…just like the team needs to learn how to win, we fans need to enjoy and appreciate it when the team does win…

To your credit, Dan, your comments re the game yesterday were in that vein…

And no, unfortunately, I was not at the game yesterday as I had planned to be…I had two teeth pulled on Monday and have been on pain killers since and secondly my mother suffered a stroke last week while visting us and is still in the hospital…

As for commenting more ofter, I wish I could, but usually life gets in the way…but I still bleed blue and gold…Hail To Pitt!

Comment by Leaseman 11.25.12 @ 11:31 pm

@Leaseman, I apologize for being salty at the time yesterday, had nothing to do with you. I apologize.

Thinking on it, you do post often, and they are always good and well received. My mind was other places and I was just banging keys. Sorry.

My best to your Mom, this is all minor compared to that. Prayers to your family and her.

Comment by Dan 11.26.12 @ 10:34 am

No offense taken Dan and thanks…Mom is doing well and watched the game with me on Saturday…at 88 she doesn’t always understand what is going on but loves to watch Pitt football as much as i do…Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Leaseman 11.26.12 @ 1:10 pm

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