September 6, 2012

River City LiveBlog (I Hope)

Filed under: Football,liveblog — Chas @ 4:38 pm

Well, let’s give this a try.

It’s an 8pm Thursday night game on ESPN. I am going with the Stone 16th Anniversary for tonight. Please. Please. Please let the association with this game be a positive one.

It it even comes close to this kind of happy memory of the last game Pitt played at Nippert, I’ll be thrilled.

It’s a new liveblog system. A new trial. Hopefully this works. It seems fairly straight forward.

Time to go over the rules.

It’s a moderated chat. Not every comment gets through. The abusive, the stupid and the repetitive tend not to be posted — unless I just feel like using it to mock you. Given the time from the last liveblog, and a new system it will take a bit of time before I start unmoderating trusted people. Bare with me.



The “Rivercity trophy” will be ours forever after tonight’s victory. “Tino time”.

Comment by alcofan 09.06.12 @ 5:29 pm

Lets hope the D shows up tonight they have to be embarrassed after last game, if they do we could pull one out tonight

Comment by steve h 09.06.12 @ 7:12 pm

I love Thursday night games… so long as they’re away games. H2P! Win that trophy, and leave it in Cincinnati anyway.

Comment by Lee in Altoona 09.06.12 @ 7:14 pm

Stone 16th! A fine choice, whatever the outcome.

Comment by velvil 09.06.12 @ 7:20 pm

They just must make some progress tonight.

Comment by Houston Panther 09.06.12 @ 7:48 pm

is you is or is you aint

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.06.12 @ 7:51 pm

it is is you aint we are doomed

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.06.12 @ 8:10 pm

This is great! Can someone say 0 – 12

Comment by JP 09.06.12 @ 8:13 pm

Laughing My Ass Off!!! Are you kidding me???

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before with all the college football I’ve watched!!!

I mean, maybe, I’ve seen a first play, play action, and go deep, think I saw Nebraska do that once or red team.

I mean, I can’t even, nevermind!!

Comment by Dan 09.06.12 @ 8:14 pm

tino looks good a throw into the dirt we are doomed

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.06.12 @ 8:18 pm

wow, going to be a long night

Comment by why me 09.06.12 @ 8:20 pm

9 in the box. This team sucks. They are well prepared.

Comment by JP 09.06.12 @ 8:21 pm

Now we know why TG left

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.06.12 @ 8:21 pm

who sucks more the players or the coachs

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.06.12 @ 8:23 pm

Well you know what theys ay, you always show the most improvement between your first and second game. Humiliating. I am sure all those recruits across the country are just jacked by the program.

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 8:24 pm

Shrewd strategy. Didn’t show anything last week. Nothing in the first half so Cincinnati won’t be able to adjust in the second.

Comment by 66Goat 09.06.12 @ 8:24 pm

It’s a talent issue folks.

Chryst needs to get his guys in and let most of these players sit. If we are going to lose let’s lose while getting the future Pitt players experience

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.06.12 @ 8:25 pm

Pitt should drop football.

Comment by SFPitt 09.06.12 @ 8:30 pm

We will get there but it will take 4 yrs of recruiting

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.06.12 @ 8:33 pm

oh. we need to let this coach bring his guys in and things will be better. that should be painted on the field becuase its been our mantra for 30 years.

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 8:38 pm

That chat is too tiny and jumps around all over the place. F8ck that. And this game. Pass the bourbon quickly. I come 10 minutes late and it’s already 0 – 14.

Tino is a cancer, the o-line doesn’t want to block for him anymore. Staring at 0-3, it’s time to pull the plug on Tino time.

Comment by Emel 09.06.12 @ 8:38 pm

Is Bennett in the dog house?

Comment by hacky3 09.06.12 @ 8:41 pm

I dont care what you say tino must go.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.06.12 @ 8:42 pm

Graham was demonized by the media for calling Tino out imo. The guy had a track record of success, Chryst has no record at all.

And if he can’t be a head coach and can’t recruit this is Paul Hackett 2 all over, sans Alex Van Pelt.
Who was at least fun to watch complete passes.

Tino couldn’t start for Central Catholic, oh wait
Sal went there, I forgot. My bad

Comment by Emel 09.06.12 @ 8:43 pm

did you here the tv guys tino must hit that pass and he cant we are so screwed.
he also said cincy should take away the short pass becuse tino cant throw long.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.06.12 @ 8:46 pm

1rst Quarter Stats.

Cincy 162 yards Pitt 40
Munchie 7/11 82 yds 156 QB rating
Tinny 2/6 26 yds 83 rating 3 sacks

Did someone say the other day Munchie was no good when I mentioned he would tear us up.
Yet probably same person thinks Tino should continue to play,,,lmao

Comment by Emel 09.06.12 @ 8:50 pm

I must be a genius because I predicted this complete failure after the YSU game. I knew that the Cinci game would be total bust and embrass the school on national TV. So I as watch my beloved panther self destruct I find myself wandering to the liquor cabinet to get the wild turkey rare breed to kill the pain. 108 proof should help dull the pain. I hate Steve Peterson and what has become of this program.

Comment by LUV PITTBULLS 09.06.12 @ 8:53 pm

hey frankcan.

Well that’s what happens during the course of these games with tinny. Since he can’t complete anything over 20 yards, these teams then eventually take away his little dump passes and then we can’t move the ball at all. It’s not like Shanahan or Street can seperate much either. Combine that with tinny’s lack of accuracy and you have impending disaster.

After all that’s what we saw EVEN with a SPREAD offense with 4-5 friggin receivers .

This isn’t Rocket Science. You got a D3 QB here.
Bottom line.

Comment by Emel 09.06.12 @ 8:56 pm

Pitt = laughingstock of college athletics.
You guys accept this?
Neville Chamberlain looks like a hero.
How many times does Pitt have to rediscover “rock bottom”?

Comment by SFPitt 09.06.12 @ 8:56 pm

lol LUV Pittbulls

Did they drop the proof on Rare Breed ? it use to be 115 I believe. For PITT football, very high proofage is a requirement. May I suggest Bookers at 127 or 128 proof.

Yes Pederson has destroyed the football program, LUV Pittbulls, that Wanny had going in the right direction.
Bottom line PITT had it’s best 3 years in a row under Wanny since the Dan Marino years. Just to remind ppl we were 9-4, 10-3 & 8-5 the last 3 Wanny years. And we finished #15 in the rankings in 2010. Pitt’s highest ranking in the Final AP poll since 1981. Give me a friggin break.

What don’t ppl get. Sorry Wanny was a yinzer.
Pederson is a a-hole…I’ll take a yinzer over a a-hole any day of the week.

Comment by Emel 09.06.12 @ 9:03 pm

SFPitt is correct Pitt should just drop the FB program. This is a waste of time and effort for all concerned. What a total *ssf**king!!

Comment by LUV PITTBULLS 09.06.12 @ 9:04 pm

what a tremendous sequence of playcalling after yet another stupid penalty ending with another asinine throw from Sunseri. we are horribly coached. obviously being undewrwhelmed by the chryst hiring was me giving him to much credit. disgraceful

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 9:12 pm

I think all the anti-Tinny ppl are being blocked out of chat. It won’t accept any of my comments after I made the first one. And all it said;.;..was: “I’m 10 minutes late for the game and already it’s 0-14.”

Comment by Emel 09.06.12 @ 9:14 pm

Discipline must be built into a program. Two weeks of poor discipline. Coaches need to make a statement

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.06.12 @ 9:16 pm

you think the ACC has their lawyers looking for an out clause?

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 9:18 pm

15 minutes later I’m still infuriated about that phantom holding call on what should have been a TD! Effff!!!!!

Comment by Digdug 09.06.12 @ 9:25 pm

Phantom holding call on TD run. Can’t get a break.

Comment by frankarms 09.06.12 @ 9:26 pm

Folks- it is early. Most of the players are under classmen so we will need to be patient. Take away the big plays and mistakes and the games is closer than the score. There are freshman playing on both sides of the ball. It will take time. We will be fine in time. This season is a wash as we are trying to right the ship. New QBs are coming. Shell looks promising. Pitts has a future. LB grigsby is a freshman . The building blocks are there. It will take time

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.06.12 @ 9:29 pm

Sunsets is terrible

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.06.12 @ 9:34 pm

did anyone not predict that end of the half. the “fade” is always such a clever play call. And no offense Pitt Fan in Atlanta…i have been hearing the same excuses for the horrible coaching and sunseri’s idiot mistakes for years. Very old. Very tiresome and why exactly does it only happen to us.

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 9:35 pm

Digdug, I have counted 3 holding penalties that should have been called against Cincy – including on the 2nd TD – that haven’t been. Terrible.

Comment by KeyboardKev 09.06.12 @ 9:36 pm

I am not one to overreatc but Paul Chryst is in over his head. He will ge three years get fired and we can move on to the next “rebuilding project”

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 9:37 pm

Tino has to go. It isn’t all his fault, but he is taking sacks, missing open guys, ignoring open guys, taking too long before the snap, and not showing ANY leadership (that last one is from a fan’s perspective – he looks somewhat confused and out of sorts).

Is it time to throw Voytik to the wolves and see what he has? I mean, what do we have to lose at this point???

Comment by Panther3321 09.06.12 @ 9:37 pm

UNREAL!!!! Tino are you serious?!?!? Can’t take this anymore 0-12 here we come. Boy we REALLY had to let wanny go. Puh-a-lease!!!

Comment by John 09.06.12 @ 9:38 pm

OMG how terrible is Sunseri? Fumbles, interceptions, and now just a totally and completely idiotic play at the end of the half. YOU CANNOT DOUBLE-CLUTCH WITH 5 SECONDS LEFT!

Comment by PITTGRADWAYNE 09.06.12 @ 9:39 pm


Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.06.12 @ 9:40 pm

Great Pass Tino!

Comment by Marco 09.06.12 @ 9:41 pm

Were losing to a cincy team that isn’t even that good..tino is sooooo bad…the o line is sooo bad…and the def is sooo bad…wow..were sooooo bad

Comment by pitt-for-life 09.06.12 @ 9:41 pm

After what we saw last week – domination by a division AA team – does this really surprise anyone?

Comment by DJS 09.06.12 @ 9:43 pm

Chas..I read your preamble.
If you “mock” anyone but Pitt, you will lose all cred.
Best to walk away because this.version of “ground hog Day” is going to have the same ending as it always does.

Comment by SFPitt 09.06.12 @ 9:44 pm

It shows the complete lack of confidence the coaching staff has in Sunseri after the phantom holding call on Jacobson.

On 2nd and goal from about the 20, they run two plays and then Sunseri throws up the wounded duck for the interception.

Look at it on the bright side = Only 10.5 games left of watching Tino Sunseri play quarterback.

Comment by Flip2Script 09.06.12 @ 9:45 pm

Groundhog Day….same shit year after year.

Comment by Jeff in CPa 09.06.12 @ 9:45 pm

This cincy team is maybe 7/5 we are officially the doormat of the big east, way to out with a bang!!

Comment by John 09.06.12 @ 9:45 pm

Murphy’s law = Panther’s law….if Pitt can screw it up…they will screw it up!

Comment by Marco 09.06.12 @ 9:47 pm

Thanks Steve Peterson. You are a sad excuse. Would Cal U hire this guy?

Comment by UPITTBASEBALL 09.06.12 @ 9:48 pm

I think i see why Todd Graham left ..big shots are allowed to intervene in the Pitt program Hey play Tino his daddy played here and its just amature Guess what Pitt I wont put another penny in your pockets Penn St AND West Virginia have better programs PSU reported the scandal to the police from the jump The cops did nothing THEN The Attorney General had the case So how is Penn St The Bad Guy GThey Arnt the cops I will Now support Penn St over hapless Pitt I shall DEFEND PSU

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.06.12 @ 9:49 pm

Wait a minute. You don’t suppose that Tino thought that his pass would be good for three points, do you?

Comment by Pittstadiumshuffle 09.06.12 @ 9:51 pm

Ok, if I have to be humiliated, can I at least be

humiliated with my team wearing gold pants!!!!!!

I know they’ve done this the past couple years,

is there no sense of tradition left, no one even

knows what came before them??????????????

WHAT??? You want me to talk about the game????

Comment by Dan 09.06.12 @ 9:51 pm

Put in Voytik…Tino’s had 4 years to prove what he is capable of and his limitations have been exposed time and time again. Defensive Coordinators know that he can’t complete a pass over 10 yards so the game plan is easy.

Comment by Jeff in CPa 09.06.12 @ 9:51 pm

It looks like tickets for the USF game I am going to are going to be plentiful and cheap. I’m thinking club level suite tickets.

Comment by OrlandoAlum 09.06.12 @ 9:54 pm

Can we place a bounty on our own players????

Comment by Marco 09.06.12 @ 9:57 pm

Now that commercial there… Gent on his porch, askin God forgive me… Was the absolute LOWEST Big East Help Me Commercial to date. Today’s date: Sept 6, 2012.

Comment by Neil 09.06.12 @ 9:59 pm

The joke of NCAA athletics. Plus BB schedule is atrocious

Comment by UPITTBASEBALL 09.06.12 @ 10:00 pm

There are many young players on defense making mistakes (not containing, over running, etc…) however, due to your quarterback fumbling in your own zone, throwing an interception in the red zone and blowing a scoring chance at then end of the half (a 3 year starter should not be making those mistakes)…it should be 14-10…

Comment by markp 09.06.12 @ 10:00 pm

I just turned the Pitt game off i am watching the Democrat Convention These guys are trying to get health insurance for all Americans and make millionaires and billionaires PAY more Well they can afford it I sure as hell can’t. My next donation will be to the President Obama Campaign to keep him in office Not to the Pitt bull crap athletic department!!!! these comments are approved by me RRT

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.06.12 @ 10:01 pm


Comment by UPITTBASEBALL 09.06.12 @ 10:04 pm

Maybe we can comeback

Comment by anonymouspitt 09.06.12 @ 10:04 pm

Why is Tino still in the game?

Comment by UPITTBASEBALL 09.06.12 @ 10:04 pm

Great time out….NOT

Comment by Marco 09.06.12 @ 10:09 pm

omg…the coaching staff changes, but the same shit happens..we have one timeout left…

Comment by pitt-for-life 09.06.12 @ 10:10 pm

Sunseri is trying but he simply doesn’t have the tools. His dad failed him by trying to make hi into a player he isn’t and then leaning on his relationship with wanny to get him an undeserved opportunity. Nepotism eventually makes the person pay

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.06.12 @ 10:13 pm

Emel, the proof varies from batch to batch, sometime higher or lower. Anyway I’m done, this is stupid, waste of my time. F Pitt and AD and the chancellor. I could play better at QB and I have NO SKILLS, kinda like Tino. Later all.

Comment by LUV PITTBULLS 09.06.12 @ 10:13 pm

Why is Saddler still in the game? He stinks too.

Comment by move_on 09.06.12 @ 10:18 pm

Sunseri is trying but he simply doesn’t have the tools. His dad failed him by trying to make hi into a player he isn’t and then leaning on his relationship with wanny to get him an undeserved opportunity. Nepotism eventually makes the person pay. We are paying thenprice for wanny doing his buddy a favor

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.06.12 @ 10:18 pm

If the BE can kick out Temple, the ACC can do the same to Pitt.
Pitt should do the honorable thing and decline the invitation.

Comment by SFPitt 09.06.12 @ 10:23 pm

Two plays and the length of the field. Cant figure out why he have the most useless slowest qb in college football and we cannot do it. Stunning.

Its just ridiculous the decades of spinning our wheels to wind up in same place.

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 10:24 pm

I liked Pitts’ little extra on the QB tackle. Attitude.

Comment by Pittstadiumshuffle 09.06.12 @ 10:25 pm

Sfpitt – the honorable thing would be to join Division III. Play Gannon, Theil and W & J.

Comment by UPITTBASEBALL 09.06.12 @ 10:26 pm

first and ten down by 21…off tackle run…of course

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 10:26 pm

Compare WVU and Pitt. We both hired coaches at the same time. Actually we hired 3. WVU has a chance to win the Big 12. We can’t finish .500 in the shit east.

Comment by UPITTBASEBALL 09.06.12 @ 10:28 pm


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Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 10:31 pm

upittbasebsall…two years of turmoil led to very poor recruiting and depth at the skill positions. You shouldn’t be surprised at the current results. It will take 3-4 years before Pitt is competitive again.

Comment by markp 09.06.12 @ 10:34 pm

Pitt is a joke. Maybe we can find a way to beat Gardner Webb with our tribute to the 50’s offense while the rest of college football actually evolves. This is a total embarrassment. Oh but its ok because being humilaited on national television will lead to droves of stud players wanting to play for Paul “Let’s Punt!!!” Chryst.

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 10:36 pm

Pederson has got to go, need fball alums to put some pressure on hello mark may, Marino, ditka, etc

Comment by John 09.06.12 @ 10:39 pm

in a related story every single team we play on the road is rescheduling homecoming.

Comment by Brendan 09.06.12 @ 10:42 pm

Looks like we will be 0 fer in the big least.

Comment by DJS 09.06.12 @ 10:42 pm

We are totally back to boring ass football. This is worse than wanny re-incarnated. Hold the ball too long, throw a shit 5 yard pass, look at one receiver, take a sack, can’t take it must drink heavily. Why should we care, I want my season ticket money back. They should pay us to go watch this crap!

Comment by JP 09.06.12 @ 10:48 pm

the game at buffalo is their homecoming.

Comment by nw pa pitt fan 09.06.12 @ 10:49 pm

another third and long another sack.

Comment by Pitt in Oregon 09.06.12 @ 10:49 pm

3 points against the mighty Cinci D. How long will he stick with a 5th year senior 20 pts. in 2 games.

Comment by JP 09.06.12 @ 10:55 pm

Pitt’s linebacking crew will take at least 2 more years to learn how to play college football. They simply cannot grasp the game as of now. It’s hard to blame the coaching staff for player’s inabilities after a three week pre-season camp.

Comment by move_on 09.06.12 @ 11:12 pm

I thought there were positives.

Comment by Justin 09.06.12 @ 11:14 pm

This team is a joke, players, coaches everyone. Tino misses wide open Shannahan but he will start again next week. What does he have on the administration. Three years of starting and I have seen 25 better quarterbacks.

Comment by JP 09.06.12 @ 11:15 pm

Steve Pederson must go! It was so obvious that Pitt needed a strong coach and recruiter to replace Dave W. and take a step forward. Instead Pitt hired an unproven criminal from Miami of Ohio who had no appeal to recruit, a fraud of a system coach in Grahm who left the cupboards bare and ran to ASU, and an incompetent recruiter and coach in Chryst. Pederson has done everything to make Pitt go backwards since Walt Harris and has never looked for a good coach since he always said Pitt did not deserve a top notch coach. Chryst can not lead young boys by being unemotional nor can he recruit. I am so mad!!!!!! Nebraska firedPederson. Pitt needs to fire him too…. Today!!!!!!!

Comment by Pittisforreal 09.06.12 @ 11:15 pm

Why is Tino still playing when it’s 34-3?

Comment by PITTGRADWAYNE 09.06.12 @ 11:17 pm

ach like Tom Bradley. Instead Pederson had to pick someone without a personality because Fraud Grahm made him look so bad with all of his personality. Just like he picked a disciplinarian to offset Wanny’s players getting in trouble. Never does Pederson pick the right coach. How can a guy without any pulse make kids get up to play a passionate game?

Comment by Pittisforreal 09.06.12 @ 11:23 pm


Agree Tino should have sat down for the forth quarter.

Proves that last week was a fluke with Tino not getting any sacks.

The guy comes up empty when pressured in the pocket. Like we didn’t know this already.

Chryst has got to make a change at quarterback if he wants any chance at winning this season. The offensive line is just not good enough to give Tino the kind of time he needs to make a throw.

Play Anderson. If he doesn’t deliver immediately, mix in some plays with Voytik.

No sense in holding Voytik out becauce come next year with Savage and Chapman both in camp, Voytik’s window of opportunity may close.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.06.12 @ 11:29 pm

I thought there were positives. This is a rebuilding year. Let’s go Orioles!

Comment by Justin 09.06.12 @ 11:34 pm

Justin–You are right. There were plenty of positives. Despite the score the defense showed improvement. The offense moved the ball well but lacked the ability to finish drives. At least 17 points, IMO, left on the field by an inability to score in the redzone. A total of 415 yards of offense and you only score 10 points? You should score 28 points with 400 yards of offense!

Negatives, too many mental errors by the defense, offensive line inability to pass block adequately to protect a QB with limited size and skills.

I do think this team will improve significantly by seasons end once the mental errors are cleaned up.

Comment by pitt1972 09.06.12 @ 11:39 pm

Yes, Tino is inadequate; but considering the almost non-existent pass protection provided by the OL it wouldn’t have mattered much if we had a far better QB on the field.

Comment by pitt1972 09.06.12 @ 11:44 pm

No where to go but up. Hard to entirely blame Sunseri when its an all out jailbreak on most plays. Better recruit offensive lineman for the next quarterback.

Comment by Pittstadiumshuffle 09.06.12 @ 11:45 pm


Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.06.12 @ 11:45 pm

Keep in my mind the 2 year Instability these KIDS have gone through. I’m most pissed at Pitt’s admin for not getting rid of the deusch Pederson. I hate him. Nordy needs to wise up.

Comment by Justin 09.06.12 @ 11:46 pm

Didn’t even seem like a Pitt game. From the uniforms, to the play, to the announcers making every excuse possible for the team.

I’m gonna try and get a tape of the games played from 73′ to 82′, and just watch them over and over.

Why not, I watch Jaws, The Godfather and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly over and over.

“See you soon idi, idi, idi???”
“Idiots…… It’s for you”

Comment by Dan 09.06.12 @ 11:46 pm

Why am I not surprised? Pathetic is not a strong enough word! I didn’t see the YSU game, and shrieked when I read “reminiscent of Paul Hackett.” My worst fears came true tonight. Last week’s comments are spot on. There is a distinct difference between players’ inabilities and being out coached. Tonight, … and it appears two times in a row … Pitt was out coached. Lack of discipline, out of position, poor technique, utter lack of fundamentals, no desire or emotion. Why was a Senior QB with four years of experience who completely screwed up the end of the first half, allowed to play in the second half? Inexcusable. Forget his other screw ups, that is reason enough alone.

What more can be said? At least Paul Hackett had an excuse, he was told by the “Killer Bs” to put students on the field. I ain’t buyin’ the talent gap and coaching turnover. This staff would be out coached by a WPIAL Quad A school. Forget it, no money from me

Comment by IowaPanther 09.06.12 @ 11:48 pm

Slow, slow, slow. It s obvious this team has no speed. Add that to the mediocre talent and it is a recipe for disaster.

Comment by DJS 09.06.12 @ 11:54 pm

Sunseri cost Pitt at least 14 points. Missed wide open Saddler and threw a horrible INT. Horrible call on Lumpy.

Comment by pvv 09.06.12 @ 11:54 pm

Not to mention the fact that the All-Whites (uniforms) are a curse.

Believe there is only one victory when the All-Whites were worn since their debut in the big loss at Morgantown under Wanny.

Every other game a disaster including last year at Iowa.

Burn them next week at the bon fire.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.06.12 @ 11:58 pm

The team is not that slow, they are just out of position too much.

Comment by pvv 09.06.12 @ 11:58 pm

Unhappily I said it before and it looks more and more like I know what I’m talking about…This Pitt team looks an awful lot like the 1 & 9 teams I watched as a freshman and sophomore. We looked awful tonight. I think its time to at least try a change at quaterback. I’m not sure Tino’s backups are any better, but we’ve got to try something to get this team jumpstarted. Again they looked asleep, unprepared, unmotivated and totally outclassed.I think its going to be a very, very long season.

Comment by Rich CAS1970 09.07.12 @ 12:00 am

I think i agree with everyone’s assement…the whole team shit the bed again. But I can’t take Sunseri anymore enough is enough. So what if Voytik is a freshman start him..tino had four years and seems to of gotten worse…overthrowing 7 foot recievers!

Comment by Tsingtao44 09.07.12 @ 12:03 am

It’s too early to give up on this team. We have one conference loss and can still go to a BCS bowl if we win out in the Big East.

That said, the status quo isn’t going to work. Voytik should start next Saturday.

Comment by Brian 09.07.12 @ 12:05 am

Tino ,
Looks like a deer in headlights….

Comment by DJS 09.07.12 @ 12:06 am

Everything changes with a better QB…everything. Anyone who watches football for any time recognizes that QB is the most important position, like it or not. Its like your starting pitcher in baseball — it doesn’t matter how many good hitters and fielders you have, if your starter gets shelled, you’re in such a hole that its a gigantic effort to get out of…and if the rest of your team is so-so, forget it.

Comment by Matt N. 09.07.12 @ 12:09 am

This is exactly the place I expected Chryst to be in: 0-2 or 1-3, with Tino showing brief glimpses of pretty good play but a majority of average, below average, or flat out sh#t play. As was faced by Wanny and Graham, what are you going to do now coach? And he’s in much better shape than those two, as he has at least two, perhaps three (Ronald Jones), viable options to try, that couldn’t possibly be more maddening. Emel, Oy Vey a hundred times!

Comment by Matt N. 09.07.12 @ 12:15 am

This season is a bust. The stupidest thing in the world would be to play Voytik. Redshirt him and move on after this year.

Comment by Dan35 09.07.12 @ 12:20 am

These kids work too hard to give up on any season after two games.

Comment by Brian 09.07.12 @ 12:23 am

I’m sure these kids work hard. But the fact is they suck at football. Penn State is in bad shape but they are still light years ahead of Pitt.

Comment by TonyC 09.07.12 @ 12:53 am

At this point, it’s abundantly clear that there isn’t much talent on this squad. Bad QB, mediocre receivers, a bad O-line, mediocre DL, bad linebackers and a mediocre secondary. The only real position of strength is at RB. Other than that, this roster is fraught with deficiencies. If Paul Chryst can get this team to win 6 games, he’ll have accomplished a Sisyphean feat.

Comment by Swinging Gate 09.07.12 @ 1:30 am

I really think they have enough to dig out 7-8 wins this year, IF — IF — they switch to Anderson. I agree we should save Voytik unless Anderson blows too, but I really think if he’s healthy that he could be a shot in the arm for this team….maybe the whiskey talking, but I think its time for bold moves…not even that bold really, just semi-bold.

Comment by Matt N. 09.07.12 @ 1:56 am

It starts at the top:
Fired Solich, hired Callahan. Oops. Nebraska fired his ass.
Fired Wanny and treated him like shit, hired Haygood. Oops again.
Fired Haygood, hired Graham. Oops.
How many terrible decisions from someone who gets paid to make decisions does it take?
Oh, I’m sorry.
This is all because the students refuse to eat shit when you put it in front of them.
Talk with your pocketbook.
I just took $2,000.00 out of Pitts pocket.
Sure, small potatoes but I am over being lied to and treated like I’m stupid.
The Pitt athletic department has a half century of failure to support my decision.
Have fun in the Patriot league.

Comment by SFPitt 09.07.12 @ 4:33 am

So, as a Pitt fan I’ve realized I have to be overly optimistic when things are at their worst or I will have no football team to follow anymore.

I truly believe in PC, for a number of reasons. I am willing to give him time where I wasn’t willing to give Toddy Grahams for a number of reasons (his claims for winning being one)

People call for Peterson’s head, but not yet, give Paul 2 more seasons and you’ll be singing a different tune, I assure you. We are all tired of waiting, but if we don’t wait we’ll never see any progress. Our team is too fragmented right now from the past four years of chaos to operate correctly. I caught glimpses last night of what this offence will be able to do when it gets faster and smarter. I don’t think I’m the only one. If anything else, the players in the future need something to rely on for stability.

Comment by Benzene 09.07.12 @ 4:59 am

Defense is horrible. When the defense is this bad you need play makers on offensive, Tino is at best a game manager. Lets turn the page and get someone ready for next year. Our friend in the live blog is correct: TINOSUXBALLZ.

Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 5:15 am

Chryst is a 1st year coach with a built in excuse to play as many youngster as he wants. Build for the future, pull the plug on this crap.

Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 5:21 am

Tino in the pantheon of deer in the headlight faces, along sade Romeo Crennel, when he was coaching the Browns.

Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 5:28 am

Say what you like but if the jerk was still the coach we would be 2 -0. Cinci is average at best but they were able to play to space. The college game has changed and this pro offense does not work when you have mediocre talent. They were so predictable last evening. First down run, second down run or shortpass third down pass (opps, blitz and sack), punt. Same as when Wanny was here.

Comment by JP 09.07.12 @ 5:47 am

Terrible game day coaching + mediocre talent = lost season. Chryst IS Paul Hackett and this team is well on its way to being the Duke of the Big East. God help us next year when we have to compete against the FSUs., Clemsons, and UMs of the world. Back to the Hackett days?? Hell, we’re well on our way to the old bottom 10 days of Dave Hart and Carl DePasqua.

Comment by miarunner 09.07.12 @ 6:41 am

Omg the sky is falling.

Comment by Justin 09.07.12 @ 6:48 am

Our punting was very good. That’s a positive we can build on. I’ll just shut my eyes and think happy thoughts between punts. Reminiscent of the Dave Hart era.

Comment by dinosaur 71 09.07.12 @ 7:26 am

I have never drank heavily before a Pitt game so I can focus and study the action. This week for VT, I will be pre-gaming with George Dickel Tenn. Whisky.

This year reminds me of 2001 when we started 1 and 5 and had a blowout loss against BC. The team made it to 6 and 5 and won the Tangerine Bowl. Hopefully we turn it around.

But…I’m afraid of Gardner-Webb.

Comment by AJ 09.07.12 @ 7:36 am

People Dont renew your season tix next year Make Pitt pay 4 their mistakes Thats the only way they will get the message AND i will eat my season tickets and NOT go to 1 GAME this Year!!!!!

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.07.12 @ 7:52 am

Five seconds to go and you don’t put points on the board allowing your qb to run out the clock (um, coach, with Tino you have to think in dog seconds). When Tino let time expire and threw that ball through the uprights, I turned off the tv and turned off the season all in one motion. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and the coach has dug a hole already and it isn’t even the middle of Septermber yet. Not good.

Comment by wally 09.07.12 @ 7:59 am

Please dont tell me Gardner-Webber runs the SPREAD OFFENSE If they do then Pitt goes 0-12 freakin’ w0w

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.07.12 @ 8:13 am

Thise team has no linebackers. I don’t know where they were last night, last week. Does anyone know where there are? Grigsby missed 10 tackles, gave up two for touchdowns, and allowed cinncy to convert a third and ten from inside the one. Offensive line – not very good pass protection this week. Teams are gonna make Tino throw by blitzing everyone, every down, even run blitzing. This offensive genius we hired better come up with an answer soon or this could be a 0-12 season.
To boot this team has no fire, no desire to kick the opponents A*&, they look like a bad high school team.

Comment by blaise 09.07.12 @ 8:15 am

Our offensive tackles are the worst ! Va. Tech has one of the best if not the best offensive lines in the country & blitzes on every other play. Look for a total massacre next week !

Comment by ROCKY20 09.07.12 @ 8:18 am

Let me be clear.
This is Pedersons fault. He fired and hired and fired and hired and this is what we get.
Chryst was tossed a hand grenade.
God damn Pederson to hell: he has put Pitt thru it, it only seems fair.

Comment by SFPitt 09.07.12 @ 8:23 am

hey i had a horrible dream last night that our qb actually tried to throw a field goal instead of looking for wide open receiver. and that he continued to play the entire game after that. please tell me that it was only a dream?

Comment by pittisit37 09.07.12 @ 8:27 am

Pederson should be fired but we should be patient with Chryst. Although he’d show me some forward thinking if he’d play all the young guys. The experience we have is just accustomed to losing. Send Tino packing, play the kids and build for the future. Pitt is not good enough to redshirt anyone…

Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 8:28 am

I now fully understand why the uniforms have no names on them. If you were on this team would you want to be identified?

We will get a good look at how we will fare next year in the ACC when Virginia Tech comes to town. Should be a really huge blood bath.

If Coach Chryst can come back from these two loses with anything resenbling a winning season it will be a miracle. 6-6 would get him BE Coach of the year after these first two abortions.

I just hope that he can keep the team from throwing in the towel with ten games remaining. It is glaringly obvious that there is a ton of room for growth on this squad and they will get better as the season progresses if they continue to work on the fundamentals. Chryst has to give somebody else the reins at QB however. Tino is just not able to get it done.

Definition of insanity, keep doing the same thing and expect to get a different result. “Next” on the QB position.

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.07.12 @ 8:36 am

blaise – so true. When you start a 5th year senior who has never started a game at LB then that is trouble right off the bat.

This is where losing Thomas, Price and LaQuentin Smith really hurts us. At least Price and Thomas have some speed and experience.

Comment by Reed 09.07.12 @ 8:41 am

Tino bashers, he wasn’t on the playing field for 259 Cincinnati rushing yards and 464 total yards. Cincy almost had two 100 yard rushers in the game.

The pick was a bad throw and so was the one the throw just before halftime that kept an almost certain field goal off the board. However he was 24-37 for 278 and under duress most of the night. Even haters should appreciate the effort on the shovel to Graham.

Comment by Barvo 09.07.12 @ 8:42 am

Dr. Tom, I think the ‘throwing in the towel’ train is almost at the station.

Other then Cam Saddler and Lafayette Pitts I see no emotion at all from the players out there.

Comment by Reed 09.07.12 @ 8:44 am

Our defense sucks and needs to improve a ton but we need a playmaker not a game manager. Tino has had his shot, he’s had one good game in 3 years. Seeing him back there is a detriment to the teams psyche.

Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 8:48 am

Since we are taking a beating anyway why not play Voytik so we have an experienced QB going into ACC play next season. Why live this nightmare of a seasomn all over again next year ?
I said it since letter of intent day , I’d rather take my lumps in this final year of the Big East and season up a QB for next year in the ACC.
Feed Tino to VT next week and then start the Voytik era !

Comment by spindler's spirit 09.07.12 @ 9:02 am

If Chryst loses to Gardner… should he be fired right then and there!!!

Comment by Joe D 09.07.12 @ 9:07 am

I would just like to say please play a different
QB please no more tino.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.07.12 @ 9:13 am

maybe they can leave the numbers off the jerseys

Comment by paul shannon 09.07.12 @ 9:15 am

No Joe D, Chryst should not be fired but you could fire yourself.

Comment by Kenny 09.07.12 @ 9:18 am

Last night’s performance almost certainly ends all hope of a national championship this year, as well as Tino’s shot at the Heisman. Nevertheless, I still believe there is a chance, however slight, of avoiding a winless season. They need to look past Va. Tech and really game plan for Gardner-Webb. Chryst has to get that message across – we CAN beat G-W, but only if everyone gives their best effort.

Comment by 66Goat 09.07.12 @ 9:20 am

I am going off the board to start/ Did anyone see the Pitt produced commercial about our university, around halftime? Guaranteed our AD didn’t approve the commercial because they show a football clip with our player wearing the mustard and blue, sporting the script. AWESOME!I bet you he whined to the administartion about that today already! Hahahahahaha at Smiley!

For those doubting the fire in the belly of our head coach need only watch him lay into TJ Clemmings. The commentators all agreed that Paul Chryst will right the ship at Pitt and I agree.

Positives : Tino Sunseri – I think Paul Chryst finally got to see live, what we have known for years as tino triple pumped a pass as time expired at the half. He just doesn’t get it! I think Paul Chryst told him that if noone was open, we could get the field goal. He forgot to tell tino that you have to kick the ball through the posts to get a field goal, not throw it through. The bigger issue for Tino that will come out on the tape is this… Pitt had a first and goal with 25 seconds left in the half when the ball was marked. The clock started on the placement but tino didn’t snap it until 12 seconds. That is a 13 second mistake in time management from a 26 year old qb with many years of experience. That cost us plays at a crucial part of the game. Votyik making that mistake would be frustrating but understandable. Tino making that mistake requires a benching. Any wonder why Pitt couldn’t come back after halftime? The sideline reporter said that tino gave a speach at halftime because he is a leader. Ummm, no he is not. He tries to say and do what keeps him at his job. Leaders give your team a chance. Non-leaders give the other team a chance.Tino is not the former.

Positives – Pitt’s offensvie line has put all high school juniors and seniors on notice that if you are good and want early playing time to hone your skills and possibly get to the nfl, than Pitt is the place for you. There will be opportunity if you are good. I do think “Lumpy” got the phantom hey Pitt good luck leaving the big east, bad referee call of the week award. But I digress. It was not the officiating that cost us the game. Was the last sack of Tino funny or what? He obviously has no feel for the game or his blocking. He totally misread his OL block and skipped right into the Cincy DL for a face smashing sack. That was on Tino for no awareness. Before anyone says he had a lot of yards, alot came on a desperate shovel pass that #1 turned into a great play. He missed a widde open Shanny and the announcers said often, he just struggles throwing the ball over 10-15 yards. DUHHH!!! Everyone knows that and it is a miracle we can run the ball against anyone with so many defenders in the box.

Positives – Graham, Shell and Crockett ran well and hard.

Positives – Lafayette Pitts and Cam Saddler, with a nod to the WR’s.

Positives – Coach Chryst. He is the right guy for this job and we need patience with him.

Negatives – Steve Pederson. He just needs to go.

Negatives – Aaron Donald, couldn’t beat his guy one on one and his performance was lackluster at best. If you can’t beat a Cincy OL who is undersized, don’t expect your phone to ring on draft day. You need a high motor every play with his size. However, you can’t play at a high level if your body isn’t prepared for it. Too late to get in shape guys, the season is almost 20% over. LB’s were terrible.

Many positives, but mainly the effort. When Pitt’s effort gets like UC’s on every play, we will win more than we lose, even with lesser talent.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.07.12 @ 9:24 am

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Sunseri cannot perform under pressure. With the o-line we have, this is an absolute requirement for the Pitt QB job. I truly thought he could at least be close to average and that our running game would alleviate the pressure on the QB position.

But I apparently was wrong and am stocking up on ice as I type. My liver may not make it through the season. At least UPMC is one of the best organ transplant facilities in the country.

Comment by pghFred 09.07.12 @ 9:32 am

@Benzene, ya, really who else could we cheer for.

Can’t just pick a national team, has to be relatively close, so you can make a game or two, otherwise you’re just pretending to cheer when you see them on tv once or twice a year.

The way I see it, we have 4 major BCS programs around us or short drive away.

Penn State and West Virginia, not gonna cheer for them, for obvious reasons.

Ohio State, nope, they’re almost as arrogant as Penn State.

Maryland, nope, they’re almost as bad as us, and I’m a traditonalist, I can’t watch one play with those uniforms.

Yep, we’re stuck!! LOL

Comment by Dan 09.07.12 @ 9:52 am


Cincy isn’t that far of a drive. Obviously DeJuan Blair has made the switch.

Just sayin…..

Comment by pghFred 09.07.12 @ 9:54 am


Everything will be fine. has this on Sunseri coming out of Central. Always a good read. Last night was a total outlier in the glorious career of Tino Sunseri.

“He is an outstanding dual-threat quarterback that has a strong and accurate arm. He’s also very quick and can do a lot of damage running the football. Sunseri is a very poised QB, he can take a team on his back and lead them to greatness. He is a tremendous leader. He is very accurate and can thread the needle. His lack of ideal size causes people to relax until they see his arm strength and it is a lot better than most think.”

Comment by Nabil 09.07.12 @ 10:01 am

The person who wrote that assessment should be beaten.

Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 10:06 am

I was encouraged by what I saw at times last night

1) terrible start that could have turned really ugly fast but the coaches and team responded to put up a respectable effort (folks this one looked liked it was a 60 point beat down at first)

2) coaches and a players did quit (especially the coaches)

3) coaches got the team to move the ball between the 30 – 30 yard marks so the system they are implementing shows life

4) RB’s are studs. Good to see graham with success. Bennett ALWAYS goes forward. Shell has the it factor and once the game slows down for him look out.

5) wR and TE had better showing and the under routes and crossing routes shoed success

6) return team is solid (hats off to themspcial teams coach)

7) punt team is solid

8) Chryst is our answer. Last night answered that question for me. He didnt role over when they got down 14 in first 5 mins. He made players own their mental mistakes (#90 with personal foul was immediately removed from game by Chryst and talked to. He didn’t return to the game).

9) L Pitts is going to be a player. I love his heart. When the UC QB ran down the sideline for a 50 yrd sure to be TD L Pitts ran him down and stopped a sure TD. That showed effort and a willingness not to quit.

10) there are a number of underclassmen on either side of the ball

Overall the problem is execution with the talent that we have. I love Tino’s effort but he simply doesn’t have the tools that are needed. It is what it is. We road this horse for 3 yeas and now we have no option but to go with him. Not a wise decision to waist the redshirt year the is likely going to occur with Voylt.

Discipline problems continue to occur and that is a cultural change that takes time to instill. I saw the coaches installing a little of that accountability last night.

Overall it will be a tough year but it is important to remember to measure this year in terms of progress (improved play and playmakers) versus numerical results of W and L’s


Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.07.12 @ 10:13 am

Coaches and players Didn’t quit

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.07.12 @ 10:14 am

Coaches and players Didn’t quit. Was a typo

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.07.12 @ 10:15 am

reed —-grigby is a red shirt freshman, not senior. and yes THomas and PRice are dearly missed. If you watch the game and the big runs, TD’s by Cinncy Number 3 was lost on assignment no where near the ball, or chasing it. We need help bad at LB

Comment by blaise 09.07.12 @ 10:20 am

Wow! Gave up about 3 qtrs thru the game. Will watch the rest on DVR – the only way to “enjoy” the game. No annoying, but true, analysis after each play. A little fast forward gets you right to the next Pitt adventure. No defensive speed, no offensive line, no clock management. Running WRs onto the field with clock moving at end of 1st half and not using a time out. Otherwise, everything is fine.

Comment by Pitt70 09.07.12 @ 10:23 am

Oh come on, recruit rankings have been wrong before.

Some people can handle HS level talent extremely well, and Tino does have the tools-it’s just his decision making. He wasn’t able to go to the next level.

Comment by anonymouspitt 09.07.12 @ 10:23 am

Tino’s tool continue to result in overthrowing wide open receiver and sure TD’s in every game. Poor decision making simply compounds a lack of tools.

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 09.07.12 @ 10:26 am

Randy …….STOP YELLING!!!

Comment by Marco 09.07.12 @ 10:33 am

I am beyond discussing the abominations that we have been involved with this year.

This team is so soft and slow that I truly fear we are going to be seriously damaged by The Hokies. I honestly believe that we face the possibility of seeing many of our players being
carried off the field to UPMC. I am not trying to be dramatic…VTech will really destroy this collection of misfits. The talent just simply is not present to play DI football.

I hope that I am wrong, however VTech’s speed and athleticism is far superior to YSU and Cincy.
As Emel would say……………OY VEY!!!

Comment by isnore 09.07.12 @ 10:36 am

Question if your players are going to better
bye the ebd of year and i did see some better play .
on D why dont we play all the youg men we can
what good does it do us if the sr catch on bye
end of year then we have to start all over agein next year.

play the fr and soph then we see what we have for next year plus then they are ready to play next year .

it does us no good to play the sr on d who cant play any way becuse they are to slow or not good enough.

this season is lost who cares if we would end up 6 and 6 i would ruther do that with players who have a future not sr who are going to leave and are not good enough any way.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.07.12 @ 10:45 am

@ paul shannon, I disagree, leave the numbers on the uniforms, just take the “PITT” off the helmets.

@ Pittastic, too late to beat the guy who evaluated Tino out of HS, he committed suicide over a year ago.

@ anonymouspitt, I agree with you about Tino’s poor decision making for sure, but I’m perplexed by your opinion that, “Tino does have the tools”??? If so, could you text him and request he use any other tool than his screwdriver? After three years of this I feel that us Pitt fans have been adequately screwed for the duration of Tino’s remaining Pitt career.

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.07.12 @ 10:49 am

Dr. Tom – Is there a law against digging him up and beaten his lifeless body? I feel he took the easy way out.

Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 10:53 am

DR. Tom here is what i dont under stand coach
is not blind every body can see tino sucks
and we are going to lose the game with him .
so why not give a different QB a shot for at least a half.
are they afread we will lose we will do that with tino any way.

give some else a shot it is not like we could look worse i just dont get it.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.07.12 @ 10:59 am

I know it wasn’t all Tino’s fault, but a lot of it was.

Season’s ruined, you play seniors over underclassmen because their experience is supposed to help you win. Tino’s one of the team’s biggest liabilities (perhaps THE biggest…).

Time to play ABT to get him/them a baptism by fire, thus start getting ready for 2013 and the ACC. If they’ll still have us.

Reply to above post: that assessment of Tino the Magnificent coming out of high school was so far off base it’s beyond funny…

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 09.07.12 @ 11:01 am

Can’t believe we lost to a team with a guy named Munchie and another named Silverberry!…but I digress…

Defense, though it showed some signs of life was putrid again…do we have any linebackers on our roster??…

Offensive line blocked pretty well for the running game but was a sieve otherwise…

Receivers were average at best – Shanahan disappeared and Street was horrible again; though some of the young guys show promise…

…and of course Tino reverted to the player we all know and loathe; he should not start another game wearing the blue & gold…

As for the coaching – it was nice to finally see PC get pissed as he did at Clemmons…he needs to do that to the entire team and needs to single out the seniors particularly because they have exhibited no leadership whatsoever….

The only bright spot was the running game…Bennett was his usual solid self…Shell showed some glimpses of what may be to come…and of course, what will keep me watching this year regardless of how abysmal the team plays overall – Ray Graham…he is a thrill waiting to happen everytime he touches the ball and is just a pure joy to watch…

VA Tech next week…do the bars still open at 6:00 am like they did when the mills were open??

Hail To Pitt!

Comment by Leaseman 09.07.12 @ 11:01 am

i have some quotes that Chryst can use for his next pressor:

“Listen, we’re gonna get better, it just won’t be this year”
“The name is Chriss-t not Christ!”
“Tino has played enough that he deserves to be behind that line”
“No I can’t perform miracles, again it is Chriss-T!”

Comment by pittisit37 09.07.12 @ 11:03 am

lol Pittisit37…

What was the best part of last night’s game??

For me… it was when Chyrst ripped Clemmings a new asshole… and he swore!!! luv it.
Finally showed me he may have fire in the belly.

Comment by Joe D 09.07.12 @ 11:08 am

Ok, here are my thoughts on all of this. I was too young to remember the early-mid 90’s when Pitt was ummm terrible, so keep that in mind.

I’m 100% willing to accept a “rebuilding” year. If that means we win a couple games, so be it. This is the result of 5 head coaches, recruiting players for all sorts of different systems, and transfers coming in from all over the place. From an outsiders prospective it seems like “hey it’s football, they’ve been playing it all their lives, why can’t they figure it out?” The main issue is TRUST. They don’t trust each other to do the right thing, be in the right place, and complete plays that should be completed on a regular basis. Tino doesn’t trust his o-line; no one in western pa trusts Tino. The LBs don’t trust each other and get out of position, the DE’s also don’t trust the LB’s to be in the right place, so they over pursue and get burnt.

While Tino is not to blame for all of this, a 5th year QB should be the leader. That’s were a real problem lies, no one on the team likes him (evidence- no one speaks to him on the sideline other than Trey….lol) He can’t lead by action, or words…so what good is he. It’s like asking the hardest working C- student to lead the study group, all the heart in the world doesn’t make up for his short comings.

Understand that we aren’t going anywhere this season. So here’s the plan:
Sr’s and Jr’s: If they have a shot at playing the next level-keep them in (Ray Ray/Holley for example)
-If they are slightly better than the soph/fresh beneath them….welcome to the bench upperclassmen-enjoy your free education and good luck.
Burn Redshirts if you plan to have the player on the 2-deep next season. Show recruits you are committed to the future-again 1 terrible season can be forgiven, but no experience next year….not so much.

I’ll be at the tailgates, and I’ll make it into the stadium. It’s not just about performance on the field- It’s being there for your team in their time of need.

Comment by ClarkLotTGate 09.07.12 @ 11:25 am

…agreed Joe D…he needs to show a hell of a lot more of that!

Comment by Leaseman 09.07.12 @ 11:25 am

Best part of last nights game??

C’mon, pretty obvious.

About the middle of the 3rd quarter, ESPN focused on 3 really cute Cincinnati fans.

Stayed on them for about 7 or 8 seconds.

Two blondes and a brunette in the middle.

Comment by Dan 09.07.12 @ 11:26 am

I dont want anybody to have a injury but face it
unless tino does we wont see another QB but him all year.
you know the best thing abought next years football tino wont be playing for pitt.
but this year is a lost season so why not play the fr and soph so we are ready for next year.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.07.12 @ 11:42 am

ii thought sams assessment in the red shirt diaries about tino was way off. first of all the kid is a 5th year senior and if he hasn’t learned how to manage the game and make throws by now, he probably isn’t going to. and what does he need to keep learning for, his football career after this is done unless he goes the coaching route. how sam can say that qb play is not in the top 10 of things wrong with pitt is crazy. in some cases, winning and losing starts with the qb and clearly we don’t have one who is a leader, who can manage the game, make big throws when he needs to, or take over the game and rally a team. each time espn cut to close ups of tino, i couldn’t help thinking two things, “f you get off the field” (okay that one might be out of line, but i did think he had a deer in the headlights look. instead of taking charge, he just had no fire or tenacity to him. it would be nice to get someone else in there. i seem to remember that voytick wanted early playing time, so why not. and i don’t buy the whole o-line argument. if you have someone back there that can make quick decisions, the o-line might be a nonfactor. but all in all, this season is over and now we can use the r word that i have been advocating since last week. We are rebuilding! People need to back off of Chryst cause he is far from responsible for the mess we are in. Makes you wonder if TG knew more than what he let on, not that he was right in the way he left.

Comment by pittisit37 09.07.12 @ 11:47 am

pittisit37 you are chryst is not responsible for this mess’ but he needs to sit the sr on the d that suck down and play the fr and soph the LB for sure.
get them ready for next year what good does it do us if the sr get better bye end of year .

they cant help us next year lets get the fr and soph lb ready for next year
and lets give anderson and voytik playing time so we have expercend back up for next year.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.07.12 @ 12:39 pm

quote from the Tino, ”I learned with 5 seconds left not to put so much air under it so you have a couple seconds so you can kick a field goal.” wow, he learned this in only his 5th year..

Comment by goalie44 09.07.12 @ 12:45 pm

It is hard to think about where we go from here. One thing that doesn’t matter is who gives us the best chance to win. Because other than maybe Gardner-Webb we aren’t going to win any games this year.
Except for those upperclassmen who give great effort like Ray Graham it is time to give the younger players a chance to get game experience. Maybe that will help for next year. God help us, we are going into a much tougher league then.
You can’t let Chryst off the hook on this. He has been with these guys for 9 months. Good coaches take over a program and turn it around right away. He was supposed to be able to coach em up. I don’t see any of that. The only thing in his favor is that he was never a head coach which is why I didn’t want to hire him. But maybe he can learn. Huxtable has to go now. The defense is completely incompetent. Smiley must go too. He has now ruined to great football programs. Nebraska still hasn’t recovered. How long will it take us?

Comment by Houston Panther 09.07.12 @ 12:51 pm

Chryst does deserve a full year to work his plan and assess his players, so let’s give him that. However, he has seen up close under game conditions what he’s likely heard and suspected about Tino — that he’s a good looking practice player who is a massive choker in pressure situations…and many non-pressure situations as well. If we get spanked by Vtech and Tino plays roughly the same as he has these first two games, I see no excuse for Chryst not to put Anderson or Voytik in…and zero downside to it.

Comment by Matt N. 09.07.12 @ 12:59 pm

Those were clearly UC player’s GF’s. If you’ve ever been to Nippert, the main street (bars) is like 2 blocks away. No way “normal” students would still be there that late at night- they were taking victory shots elsewhere.

Comment by ClarkLotTGate 09.07.12 @ 1:05 pm

FRANKCAN, have you forgotten how well Tino PRACTICES??? It would take any rational coach a couple real games to come to his on conclusion on how different Tino performs under the demands of real game situations.

@Pittastic, I think we should let the poor bastard RIP. Not everyone can have the intestinal fortitude and/or masochistic personality to continue living under such past self conceived transgressions, just us Pitt fans! If you still feel otherwise, may I suggest you give Tino a call to borrow one of his “tools” to dig him up with.

Is it too early to begin with the gallows humor? I’m ready to begin marketing mustard colored paper bags with the Pitt Script logo emblassoned on the sides with two hole cutouts exclusively for sale to all Pitt season ticket holders that want to go to the Virginia Tech game next week.

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.07.12 @ 1:11 pm

Tino should play against VT if for only because we don’t want our FR QB to get killed in his first game.

Comment by frankarms 09.07.12 @ 1:21 pm

DR. Tom has tino been out to lunch these last 3 years wa he hit in the head real hard as a freshmen.
did you read tinos Quote that was posted bye goalie44 .read it if you did not.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.07.12 @ 1:26 pm

I got another business idea for gameday. A “Pitt Koolaid” stand for all the Panther faithful that continue showing up at Heinz Field.

But this ain’t no ordinary colored sugary drink. This is Pitt Koolaid! 32oz of Blue & Gold Koolaid for starters plus a double shot boiler maker of your favorite hard liquor dropped in too, but wait there’s more! And here is the key,,,,a half a dozen depth chargers on top of the boiler maker consisting of two aspirins, two valiums and two prozacs.

After a couple of those we won’t give a shit if we get beat by Gardner-Webb in a couple weeks. LOL

And I bet you they will sell like hot cakes too.

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.07.12 @ 1:38 pm

Look please play Tino vs Virginia Tech and then bench him after Pitt looses 70 to 6 F Then start Chad Voytik or people we need to march on Pitt and DEMAND a new QB

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.07.12 @ 1:42 pm

Pitt 1-11 Thats if we can beat Gardener-Webber OMG i hope they dont run the Spread Offense? Can u say 0-12 Fire Chryst Now and Bench Tino (after VT) tho

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.07.12 @ 1:43 pm

Pitt’s offense is lead by third year starter, Tino Sunseri who has led the Panthers to two consecutive bowl bids. Sunseri had a solid opening game.

“He is an outstanding dual-threat quarterback that has a strong and accurate arm. He’s also very quick and can do a lot of damage running the football. Sunseri is a very poised QB, he can take a team on his back and lead them to greatness. He is a tremendous leader. He is very accurate and can thread the needle. His lack of ideal size causes people to relax until they see his arm strength and it is a lot better than most think.”

Comment by Nabil 09.07.12 @ 10:01 am

The person who wrote that assessment should be beaten.
Comment by Pittastic 09.07.12 @ 10:06 am

Mercilessly with a stick of pepperoni.

Comment by Emel 09.07.12 @ 1:51 pm

@goalie44, he didn’t really say that did he??

@clarklottgate, LOL!

Comment by Dan 09.07.12 @ 1:52 pm

Sounds like Sal wrote it for Scout, and faxed it to them.

Comment by Emel 09.07.12 @ 1:53 pm

One more week of Sir Tino, after we lose 62-0, then start anew with Voytik, ready or not.

Gardner Del Webb is the perfect opponent to let Voytik takeover. You would think (mind you; you would think) we should just be able to run the ball down a bottom feeder D2 school’s throat.
And throw the ball 15-20 times just to break in Voytik. Playing Tino in this game would be the biggest disservice to PITT fans, well since Smiley was brought back after wrecking the Nebraska Cornhuskers

But if you don’t play Voytik then, when in the hell do you play him. I’m assuming they brought Savage in to play next year(after the last 2 games I hope he doesn’t do a Todd Graham), so Voytik wouldn’t play next year either. Nope this is his window of opportunity and clearly this team is not responding to our 10th year Senior middle 20 something QB who throws very nice FG’s.

His stats were not impressive, take away the 50 yd shovel pass to Graham and the 75 yds on the last meaningless TD drive when Cincy had their backups in the game and they were sh*t. 60% on
meaningless plays and dump passes and 0% on meaningful plays and any long TD game changing passes.


Comment by Emel 09.07.12 @ 2:09 pm


I pulled that quote directly from the yahoo sports page that covered the game. I know, ur shocked. It takes D1 quarterbacks at least 7 years to fully comprehend complicated game strategy like that!!–ncaaf.html

Comment by goalie44 09.07.12 @ 3:03 pm

Tino touches the ball on every snap offensively. That is not a good idea. Although, if he continues to start, I would suggest that Pitt go to a 4 Tight End power running game and challenge smaller defensive backs to get physical. Think about that for a minute. Line up two TE’s to each side and plow them down. No defense would be ready to take that on and how would it be defended?

If the opposition stacks the box (which we are used to), it still works to our advantage. We then use power football to grind clock and keep us in games, resting our defensive squad. If we would need to pass, we would have much larger tight ends going against 180 pound cornerbacks. Coverage would be tight, but big bodies should win the fight for the ball.

Okay, the short green bus is here to pick me up now…

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.07.12 @ 3:07 pm

@goalie44, how could he say that??? That’s football 101. Whether you played high school or college football, or you’re a fan, you would know that from osmosis!!!!!!!

5-8 seconds left, you usually can call one of two pass plays.

5-6 seconds, slant pattern, guy is either wide open or you throw it away

A little more time, 7-8 seconds, if you have a big guy, you can try a fade, but same rule, either wide open or pitch it away quickly.

C’mon, a senior college football quarterback can’t say that, it’s impossible to not know that!!!!!

Comment by Dan 09.07.12 @ 3:32 pm

amen brother..that’s why Pitt won’t win with him. college qb’s either have to be a threat to run or pass. Sunseri is neither. Just playing average is not good enough these days. I have no idea if the other qb’s are better, but at this point who cares?? they are our future.

Comment by goalie44 09.07.12 @ 3:39 pm

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