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August 23, 2012

Walk-ons Elevated

Filed under: Football,Players — Chas @ 10:35 am

Some scholarships were given to walk-ons yesterday, though, Pitt has not officially announced it yet, there are other sources to reveal three players who received them.

That’s Fullback Mark Giubilato, Punter Matt Yoklic and Long Snapper Kevin Barthelemy.

Congratulations, guys.

UPDATE: Per PantherDigest, WR Chris Wuestner was also given a scholarship.





That makes things interesting. I think that takes us up to 80 schollies. We have 15 outgoing players after this season (65). Adding in Savage and Durham (67), that will leave us with a maximum 18 scholarships for 2013.

We’ve got 16 commitments as of now, so that leaves us only 2 more available spots, assuming there’s no other movement? Yikes.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 08.23.12 @ 11:36 am

Hey Chas or Reed,

any word on that Ohio State transfer who plays FB, is he going to be eligible this year ??

Thx.

Comment by Emel 08.23.12 @ 11:39 am

Ok, make that 3, Lloyd Carrington is transferring.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 08.23.12 @ 11:46 am

And back to 2. Chris Wuestner on scholarship now.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 08.23.12 @ 11:49 am

the staff is clearly going to take more than 2 guys.

Comment by pk 08.23.12 @ 12:03 pm

I’m sure Chryst will make room if need be.
I think the days of 4-5 years guaranteed scholarship are gone…. especially if after 2 years the player is not putting the work in or not on the horizon to contribute in any way.

Comment by Joe D 08.23.12 @ 12:04 pm

I may be wrong,but the scholarships are for one year. As such, these will free up next year and we will be back to our normal allotment. On second thought, I hope that is how it works!

The staff knows better then to leave just two more spots for next year. I think it is covered and the allotment will not be changed. Typically, I go with fact versus I think, so this scares me!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 08.23.12 @ 1:10 pm

dhuffdaddy – i think u r correct, all scholarships are on a one year renewal.

Comment by winedogs 08.23.12 @ 1:20 pm

dhuff…
The scholarships are 1 year and subject to renewal.
However, in football, depending upon the program, an athlete is almost guaranteed 4-5 years. Alabama, for instance, pushes them out regularly… that is why they always have recruiting classes of 25-28.

Jamie Dixon is finally pushing players to leave if he doesn’t feel they will contribute after 2 years. He never did that before or in his first few years.

I can list a few players that I doubt will be back next year… but will hold off and watch from the sidelines.

Comment by Joe D 08.23.12 @ 1:38 pm

DHuff:
Two of those three new scholarships are for our starting punter and possibly starting fullback. I “think” it’s highly unlikely that those two will be asked to go back to being walk-ons in 2013, so those scholarships are probably locked in until they graduate.

JoeD:
I get the feeling that PC is a pretty loyal guy and will not pull scholarships or offers just to make room for future recruits. I’m sure there will be other guys that leave/transfer, but I don’t see those numbers growing very much because we kick some guys to the curb.

Also, unless then staff feels there are a few soft commits, I don’t see him over offering and then screwing over 5 or 6 weaker commits. I just don’t think he rolls that way. And I, for one, and ok with that.

Our current “junior” class is even smaller than the current “senior” class, so that will mean even less available for 2014.

Not a whole lot of room for error.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 08.23.12 @ 2:00 pm

cnorwood..
A few got pushed out already… they didn’t see the playing time… so Chryst gives a heart to heart. The WR-Williams for instance.
Chryst said he would honor all scholarship offers when he took over but pushed a few 2012 committs out the door before LOI day. The center from Ohio plus a few others..

I don’t want to list names of players I think will be out the door next year… whether voluntary or involuntary.

Comment by Joe D 08.23.12 @ 2:09 pm

BTW, I don’t know if they eleceted team captains yet but Tags just seems like an obvious choice

Comment by wbb 08.23.12 @ 2:46 pm

We have 10 5th year SRs next season that could be asked to move-on. Some of those might be gone, LB Dan Mason among them. Juantez Hollins and Demhasaj from the OL also, along with Ed Tinker.

There’s four extra slots right there.

Comment by Reed 08.23.12 @ 4:53 pm

Emel – I don’t know but another OSU transfer to a different school was just denied by the NCAA so that doesn’t look good. I don’t even know the grounds they are asking for the waiver on.

Comment by Reed 08.23.12 @ 4:54 pm

Thanks guys. That makes sense. I suppose it’s inevitable that guys leave or are asked to move on. Clearly we need bodies, that’s for sure.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 08.23.12 @ 5:24 pm

Since we are listing names… Below is my list of players that may be tapped on the shoulder to leave or will leave on there own (9)…
QB – Anderson
RB – Davis
WR – Weatherspoon, Zuck
LB – Mason, Rackard
DB – Banks, Fisher, Gonzalez

Comment by Joe D 08.23.12 @ 7:25 pm

I am not sure what year Yoklic is, but I can’t believe that Head Coach Chryst would have two punters on schollie.

Look, it is not offensive to pull a schollie from a border line player. The player is happy to have a free ride for a year and if he competes to a level where he gets playing time, than he keeps the schollie. Who wouldn’t be happy for a one year fully paid package when you were paying the full freight prior to? It’s a short term play with long term results.

Just sayin….Chryst would look great to these kids! Hey kid, I know you have been a walk-on and I am going to reward your hard work this year by giving you a free ride! Kid says, thank you coach, I will run through walls for you and hopefully if I work hard enough and improve you will see that I can earn another one next year. That is not heartless by our coach and it gains favor with the kids, their high school coaches, parents and alumni. Does not gain favor with the financial aid folks. LOL @ me.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 08.23.12 @ 8:29 pm

dhuff – what would make a walk-ons scholarship less solid than a normal recruits?

If anything I think the opposite you say would be more viable. Recruits are completely untested in college football, un acclimated to college life, no one knows how well they would handle academics, be a team player, etc… It is all a crap shoot for PITT to offer those kids.

However, as you say, the staff knows all those things after watching a walk-on for a year or two. If anything those would be the scholarships that have already been earned.

PITT’s informal football scholarship policy has always been ‘we make a deal together for four years so that you have a chance to earn a degree from PITT in exchange for the hard work you put into the football program’ (to paraphrase). Anyone under scholarship is afforded this opportunity, not just HS recruits.

There have been times when the HC has sat down with a player and said “There is no playing time in your future so let’s work to get you transferred to a school where that can happen’ – and that has worked out well for both parties. That may be what Joe D. is referring to above and Dave Wannstedt was very good with this.

That’s why we seem PITT transfers end up in the NFL sometimes, because DW used his contacts to get these players into places they would thrive. This is why we see a lot of PITT transfers come back and hang around visiting the program after they had left, because they were treated fairly by PITT.

But I’ve asked around about this issue and don’t know of any players in the past ten years where PITT has “pulled” their scholarship only because the player wasn’t talented enough. Player’s with off the field problems – yes, but not just because they are sitting on the bench.

That said, 5th year players are told all the time that their services are no longer required. But that is after they had that four year chance. We have 17 prospective 2013 rsSRs on the roster right now and I can see at least four right off the bat who might be told this depending how the underclassman develop this season.

Whether PITT fans like this or not because they think it hurts the program is one thing. However, it is also an example of how PITT is first and foremost an institute of higher learning rather than a football factory and how PITT wants all their students to get a shot at a degree.

Comment by Reed 08.24.12 @ 7:23 am

Reed,
I don’t think the 2 Olineman you listed (hollins and deme) will be asked to leave… not enough bodies at OL… and only 2 OL committs so far. They typically look to have minimum 15 Olineman on roster not including LS.
Currently have 14 Olineman on roster… 3 will be graduating.

Comment by Joe D 08.24.12 @ 9:52 am

I am very pleased to see that Chris Wuestner received a scholarship. About 3 weeks ago I mentioned that this was a special kid who REALLY wanted to play for Pitt.

We have a winner in Wuestner!!!!

Comment by isnore 08.24.12 @ 5:08 pm

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