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April 11, 2012

Savon Goodman has a week to make a decision about Pitt. I’d put it at about 55-45 that he picks Pitt over the others based on what tidbits I’ve noted. The issue of eligibility is completely unknown to me — so don’t rule out prep school and Pitt taking a run at him in 2013. Goodman and his family are not saying much, and he has been out of the news as most of the late recruiting news is all about speculating on where Nerlens Noel and Shabazz Muhammad choose to be one-and-dones.

Meanwhile, it may be that Coach Dixon is more determined than we realized to add a power forward to this class. Last week or so Sheldon Jeter, the senior forward from Beaver Falls, made some tweets indicating that Pitt was trying to contact him again. He dismissed Pitt as being too late. It wasn’t a big deal. Yeah, he’s “local” but he’s a mid-range prospect with some upside. And I don’t begrudge him being tired of Pitt apparently playing coy with him: showing some interest then backing off. If we, as fans, get tired of high-level recruits playing games; how do you think mid-level recruits feel about major programs appearing to do the same.

And yet

6-5 Sheldon Jeter of Beaver Falls, PA could have a decision by early next week his father said Tuesday. Jeter will visit either Vanderbilt or Pittsburgh this weekend his father said. And on Sunday, he will have an in home visit with Wisconsin coach Bo Ryan. Jeter met last Thursday with USC coach Frank Martin while Pitt’s Jamie Dixon was in last Saturday.

So there’s that.

Honestly, I don’t really buy it. Coach Dixon may have gone to see him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dixon paid a visit, solely to smooth over any hard feelings Jeter may have had regarding his recruitment/non-recruitment by Pitt. But at this point, I would say he’s really not coming to Pitt –especially for some official visit now. A visit to Vandy makes more sense, but never say never I suppose.

Now, on to Trey Zeigler and his prospects of getting eligible right away. I noted the one precedent that exists for the son of a fired coach to get an immediate waiver. Jeff Eisenberg at Yahoo!’s college basketball blog, The Dagger actually looks into things.

The hardship waiver traditionally has benefited athletes who transfer because of financial hardship, injury or illness to themselves or a member of their family, but historical precedent suggests Zeigler has a better chance than some may think.

Infielder Cade Kreuter transferred from USC to Miami after the Trojans fired his father Chad following the 2010 baseball season. A Miami spokesman confirmed the school applied for a waiver for Cade on those grounds and it was granted, enabling him to contribute right away in 2011 rather than sitting out a full year.

The only similar scenario in men’s college basketball in recent years was guard C.J. Reed’s transfer to Central Florida last year following the dismissal of his dad at Bethune-Cookman. A UCF spokesman said the school did not apply for a waiver for Reed, so the reigning MEAC player of the year sat out all last season.

Somewhere in Orlando, Donnie Jones is kicking his desk and wondering why no one told him there could have been the possibility of a waiver.

That said, there is no guarantee Pitt and Zeigler will get the waiver. This is the NCAA, after all, and it is a discretionary thing. Right now, I’d put the chances at 50-50. Which is actually better than what I thought when I first heard of the precedent.

As an aside, this sets up the possibility of a Tray-Trey backcourt. Eisenberg and others think the two would form one of the best backcourts in the Big East and the country.

This may be a stunner to those who want to turn the team over, immediately to incoming freshman James Robinson, but I’m actually inclined to agree. Two factors that worked against Woodall this year will be much better. A lack of a low-post presence and better talent/ball-handlers with him.

Last year was the first time with Dixon’s teams that there was not — at a minimum — a player that could command attention and hold position on the blocks. No Troutman/Taft. No Gray. No Blair/Young. No McGhee. That was a huge change to Pitt’s offense and what Pitt point guards have had to do. Next season Steve Adams will be down low.

Then there are the guys who will be out there on the court. If Zeigler is eligible, along with James Robinson — who I believe will average at least 15 minutes a game. Patterson and Moore are both good with handling the ball. Even Talib Zanna is surprisingly sure-handed with only 29 turnovers in 751 minutes this past season. Less time on the court for John Johnson and Cam Wright definitely helps in that way.

When you throw in the injury to Woodall from which he never completely recovered upon return, and it isn’t that outlandish a notion.





Thanks for the update, Chas. I’m with you….I can’t see Jeter a Panther and a visit right now makes no sense. Let’s cross our fingers on Goodman!

Comment by FG 04.11.12 @ 11:03 am

If Zeigler is elgible that would be a huge boost. Zeigler would definitely be an upgrade over Gibbs.

Woodall will be fine handling the ball next year. I think a lot of his turnovers were due to a lack of conditioning and being hurt. When Tray was the healthiest around the Georgetown game his assist to TO ratio was over 2. However, as soon as he was reinjured his ratio sank. I think a minimum 2.3 assist to TO ratio should be expected for his senior season. Not horrible.

Comment by Wardapalooza 04.11.12 @ 11:48 am

Who does everythink is out if we bring in a new recruit? My quess is John Johnson – tweets could be a factor?

Comment by steve 04.11.12 @ 12:03 pm

Never saw the Johnson tweet. What did it say exactly?

Comment by Carmen 04.11.12 @ 12:29 pm

I’m a huge Dixon fan but if we end up pushing out another current member of the program I think we as fans should remove the phrase “Jamie doesn’t like to force recruits out” from our brains. We’ve used it for awhile but this has happened far too often recently for us to still champion that. I understand scholarships are one year but it just doesn’t paint the program in the best light. However, it appears it might happen so I too wonder who it would be.

Comment by Ryan 04.11.12 @ 12:39 pm

About his lack of playing time in a number of games.

Comment by steve 04.11.12 @ 1:09 pm

I gotta say i dont see the draw for Jeter. He’s local-ish, but having good players has to outweigh recruiting local players in everyone’s mind (Dixon’s the fans, the boosters), and there’s no reason to spend a scholarship on a kid when you can definitely get better ones. I guess the position need is also strong factor but (i) its less of a weakness when you have strong players at the 5 and Patterson/Moore to suppliement too (ii) is Jeter an upgrade over what we have now? No, not really.

Toally agree with what Chas is saying on Woodall. Last year was a bad year to be a PG at Pitt. And I’d add, he’s no worse of a defender than Fields. He’s a better shooter. Obvious flaw is his atrocious A:TO ratio. But in addition to the mitigating factors chas points out, vast majority of his TOs came when he was trying to do too much to create offense — dribble driving, spinning, dropping off passes when noone was home to receive. There wont be the same need for him to do that this year, and I think he’ll see that. And I think Dixon will have the tools (ie Robinson as a back-up) to teach Woodall lessons should he forget (ie taking him out for spells when he over-reaches), which Dixon did not have this past year.

Despite that some (ahem, DRW) think Robinson is the next Chris Paul, he’s just not going to start next year. It’s really hrd for kids who aren’t exceptional, elite athletes to start at PG in the BE unless you’re on a poor struggling team which, despite last year’s performance, I’m pretty sure Pitt will not be next year. On decent teams with adequate scoring options and with PGs who aren’t freak athletes (Wall, Rose, Flynn, etc) PGs need to manage and set team mates up. they need experience against D1 major conf opponents. Robinson just wont have that until earliest mid-BE schedule and by that point if we’re doing well Dixon won’t switch things up.

All to say, Woodall being part of one of the better backcourts in the country isn’t crazy, esp given the highly likely scenario that one of the three potential SGs step up.

Comment by PantherP 04.11.12 @ 1:48 pm

also, on Savon Goodman, i think it may be almost better for him to slide in to 2013. He’s been slipping in the rankings as other surpass him. We got interested early and courted him. I think ti could save some face for Dixon were Savon to defer a year to post-grad and re-initiate his recruiting after re-accounting for what kind of prospect he actually is. I havent seen him play so really don’t know anything, but i just get the feeling that those that have seen him are heding their bets now about how good he’ll be and that would make me apprehensive if I’m Dixon.

Comment by PantherP 04.11.12 @ 1:53 pm

Yup, Sweet 16 in March 2013.

Comment by Yup 04.11.12 @ 3:32 pm

Really? 6-5? More like 6-9

Comment by 6-5? 04.11.12 @ 3:55 pm

I saw Goodman play twice – 1st he scored 29 points against St. benedicts (Newark, Nj.) & ranked #5 nationally then in the PIAA title game against Lincoln Park he had 27 pts. – overall 26 ppg. against top notch Philly city competition ! Stats don’t lie so how can he be “slipping” if the seasons been over for 2 weeks ?!? If he does sign, he will be the most athletic , exciting , pure scorer on the team & one we fans & the squad desperately would love to see wearing the blue & gold !

Comment by Rocky20 04.11.12 @ 8:57 pm

now that jones has signed his LOI and zeigler has turned in his paper work to pitt that makes a class of 4 we only had 3 to give so who are we runing off johnson or who ?

Comment by Frankcan 04.11.12 @ 10:47 pm

I think we could definitely get an NIT invite next year!

Comment by Lou 04.11.12 @ 10:53 pm

Rocky — just saying his scouts and espn ranking slipped a little. not necessarily his game (which i havent seen, like i said). just wondering if the scouts know something. wasnt a big slip by the way. and he may be working his way back upward. Anyway, i guess he’s still top 100 nationwide which i’ll take.

Comment by PantherP 04.11.12 @ 11:22 pm

Frankcan, I think Gibbs and Nas free up two (Adams and Robinson), Epps frees up one (Jones) and there was Birch’s left over too (Zeigler). I think that’s how that’ll work.

If we get another, like Goodman, then we have to run someone off. Right now, I think we’re good.

Comment by PantherP 04.11.12 @ 11:29 pm

Woodall — too small, too weak, no left hand, inconsistent three point shooter and no threat to take the ball away on defense or shut anybody down.

And we’re finding reasons why he may be better this coming season?

I know you guys are just being realistic regarding the fact that he’s going to start all year, but I’m certainly hoping that Robinson eats him up in Greentree (like McConnell has yr after yr) and it results in more early time for the new guy.

Comment by hugh green 04.12.12 @ 10:30 am

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