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January 8, 2012

Let’s Turn the Page

Filed under: Uncategorized — Reed @ 8:37 am

What a disappointing end to a disappointing season for the PITT football program.  I’ll do a more in-depth final post when I can find some time but here’s a few thoughts after this abhorrent bowl game.

What I saw was a group of players that finally realized all that had transpired this season was real and it would be best to get the game over with as quickly as possible to put the whole 2011 mess behind them.  The fire needed for a win and desire to get one just wasn’t there yesterday at all.

I’m not saying that critically either because I understand exactly why they felt that way.  As Chas said earlier this was very much an exhibition game and literally meant nothing in the grand scheme of things.  That is a strong opinion but after watching the Mustangs bend our OL and DL to their wills in the first quarter I knew that we weren’t seeing their best efforts out there.

SMU didn’t have the best lineman we played all year but we made them look like NFL types out there.  They held us to 30 rushing yards.  30! That’s 110 yards below our season average.  They literally manhandled our OL.

On defense we played the “Hot knife through Butter” scheme in the first quarter and that was enough to not only give SMU a 21-0 lead going into the second quarter but allowed SMU to put the rest of the game into cruise control knowing that with Sunseri behind center there was no way in hell we were going to close that gap, and we didn’t.

Look, this really wasn’t that unexpected, was it?  After all the crap that happened over the last three weeks, on top of a disappointing regular season, the Football Gods were not happy with us.

It was a disaster all around and was a damn shame that our seniors have to have that as their last game to remember in a PITT uniform.  There’s not a lot more to say about the game itself except for we are damn glad that the 2011 season is officially done.

Good riddance and let’s turn the page.  We have a lot of positive things to look forward to starting with the fact that we now have a brand new coaching staff and one that looks to be more in line with what PITT football has traditionally been about.  Now we fans on here can start discussing what we hope to see beginning with the rest of the recruiting season and our 2912 Spring Practice.

Speaking of which I’ll throw this thought out for discussion.

There are a lot of opinions being offered about the 2012 season being a “rebuilding” one in that the QB who should play (Voytik) can learn on the job for 2013. I’ve read this many times on here and on the message boards.  To paraphrase; ‘If we are going to suck, let’s suck with an eye toward the future’.

I’m not going to sit here and say whether that is good or bad advice but I’ll add this; we on the Blather had been telling you that this was exactly what Todd Graham was doing from the first day he walked onboard and with that he was prepared to suffer losses this year to be assured he has his offense in place for 2012.

This was met with resounding criticism and anger by our readers in thinking that the concept should even be approached.  “Graham is paid to win now“, “The seniors deserve the best year they can have“, “The cupboard isn’t bare“, etc, etc…

So, why would this to be any different just because Paul Chryst may do it?  Let’s not approach this issue from what we know today about Todd Graham and his character, but from the view point of Graham going into the 2011 season basically telling everyone publicly that he was going to institute his offense no matter what.

So, how is it different if Chryst inserts a true FR QB knowing that it will cost us wins next season?





We are all really die hards that post on here. Take a look at this:

link to en.wikipedia.org

Basically it says Pitt has been horrible at football since at least 1983, and we are already posting about next year being some magical year. I’m hopeful Chryst will be more of a DW-like pro style guy, but not be so stubborn. The DW years are looking pretty good now, maybe we pulled the trigger about 2 years too soon on him. Hail to Pitt, and maybe one day all of us die hards will be rewarded with more than dashed hopes.

Comment by Howard 01.08.12 @ 4:27 pm

Reverend George-I was thinking the same thing as you about coaches as I read about what position coaches were needed still. David Walker did an outstanding job with RB’s during his days at Pitt and Greg Gattuso is a strong DL coach as well as an excellent recruiter in PA and OH. Both coaches would only enhance the strength of our staff.

Comment by jw in Raleigh 01.08.12 @ 5:14 pm

Well, the yinzers are crying in their Iron City tonight. Good riddance to a dog crap football season across the board.

Here’s hoping for a better 2012 for Pittsburgh football fans… and that Tino has a inexplicable calling to become a Sherpa in Nepal. Tomorrow.

Comment by thestumper 01.08.12 @ 8:20 pm

Pitt football-DONE
Pitt Hoops-JUST ABOUT DONE
Steelers-DONE
Penguins-JUST ABOUT DONE
Pirates-ALWAYS DONE

Hmmmmmm, Jaws or The Godfather has got to be on somewhere!!!!

Comment by Dan 01.08.12 @ 8:29 pm

Can anyone remember a worse 5 sports days for Pittsburgh fans? At least for meaningful games.
Are we not going to church enough…having sex with relatives, sacrificing virgins?

What a cursed last week. Glad football is over…I think Pitt has a better and more exciting outlook than the Steelers. Now if we can just get rid of Steve Peterson!!

Comment by Dan 72 01.08.12 @ 8:55 pm

JW just read your post that is what i was trying to say you put it very well.

Comment by FRANKCAN 01.08.12 @ 9:06 pm

Comment by steve 01.08.12 @ 9:30 pm

Good talent with good coaching will override bad Ad’s. As for the bad luck in Pgh sports it seems to have started about a year ago with Haywood, the injury to Sid, Steeler’s loss in the Super Bowl and really hasn’t improved much since. Good teams make their own breaks. Time to move on and hope for the best.

Comment by Joe 01.08.12 @ 9:30 pm

The new coach at penn state kept 2 of the old staff not sure that was a good idea what happens if at the trial it comes out they knew something was going on.

Comment by FRANKCAN 01.08.12 @ 9:34 pm

FRANKCAN. Simple, they fire them.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 01.08.12 @ 9:39 pm

So let me get this straight:

1) We were 13-11 the past two seasons
2) We are losing Alecxih, Caragein, Gaskins, Gibbs, Gruder, Jackson, Lindsey, Nix, Reed, Roberts and Williams
3) Ray Graham is not guaranteed to play next year
4) Sunseri is likely our starting QB

And we should win 10 games next season?

Pitt fans are insanely awesome.

Comment by cnorwoodaz 01.08.12 @ 9:42 pm

One thing abought the steelers and you can look it up it is true. if they play a good team 9 times out of 10 they play there best and are tough but if them play a team that they should beat bye 20 they lose our just win bye a point or two they are never ready to play a weak team.

Comment by FRANKCAN 01.08.12 @ 9:45 pm

Betting lines are established in a manner to get money bet on the game. Quick review: Healthy QB, 1000 yard rusher, healthy OL and D, home field vs. an injured QB, backup center, two best RB’s out, Clark out. Who’s the weak team?

Comment by Joe 01.08.12 @ 9:56 pm

Wish we had 20 or so guys like tags-if that was the case it would not matter who the coach is. Glad we have him for another year and I think he will beca great leader on next years team.

Comment by John 01.08.12 @ 10:18 pm

Comment by Digdug 01.08.12 @ 11:11 pm

Now that the season is over, lets really talk about the most important question for the new staff. Are they, or are they not in favor of bringing back the script. Why has it taken so long to finally get to the most important question? Just kidding, bring on the sunshine, finally out of the darkness.

Comment by Maryland Andy 01.08.12 @ 11:38 pm

I am NOT saying this will happen, but…

Wouldn’t it be great – just for once – for Pitt to be the team that comes from nowhere to have an incredible season? Something completely unexpected by fans, media, and maybe in the administration. If Chryst could somehow get this team to – just for once – play OVER their heads for a season. To – just for once – win all the games they are supposed to win and a couple they are not expected to win. To play in a meaningful bowl game and – just for once – actually WIN on national TV.

I’m a hopeless romantic…. sigh..

Comment by ME 2001 01.09.12 @ 12:27 am

Maryland Andy, you know, it’s not that long ago, not like bringing uniforms back from the 50’s or something. I know of two other fan bases that brought back their uni’s and demanded it.

BYU, and Washington. I’m sure there are others.

Would be good marketing too, going to the ACC etc. etc.

However, there is one persons ego that will prevent this as long as he is there!!!!!

Comment by Dan 01.09.12 @ 1:27 am

As for the bad luck in Pgh sports it seems to have started about a year ago with Haywood, the injury to Sid, Steeler’s loss in the Super Bowl and really hasn’t improved much since. Good teams make their own breaks. Time to move on and hope for the best.

Comment by Joe 01.08.12 @ 9:30 pm

Actually, you could say the way DW was forced to resign started all the bad luck. Karma is a mofo.

DW should have been made AD and SP should have been forced to resign. DW was a great ambassador for PITT and the way that whole thing was handled prompted all this bad karma on all things PITT IMO.
I’m surprised the COL hasn’t collapsed. People seem to forget, Wanny took the job when pretty much nobody wanted it after Walt left.

Now we go back to playing Wanny pro-set. Which in 2009 we averaged almost 33 ppg or 417 points scored. 2nd most points EVER scored by a PITT team. ONLY the 1977 team scored more points with 428 and that was with an NFL QB in Matt Cavenaugh.

Yea, it was boring right !

Comment by Emel 01.09.12 @ 2:03 am

Only thing I’ve never forgive Wanny for.
Recruiting Sunseri to PITT

Or you could look at it as:

Wanny’s parting gift(curse) to PITT !

Comment by Emel 01.09.12 @ 2:11 am

EMel, PITT fired DW, why in the world would they make him an AD? Talk about being in over your head.

As a guy who doesn’t live in PGH I find it kind of amusing that Pittsburghers find not WINNING a Super Bowl game a negative. You all live in a city that produces multiple championships at the divisional, conference and sometimes league level and has done for years – but a one year drought (where the Steelers still make the playoffs) is somehow tragic? There are many other sports towns in the US that would love to trade teams with you.

cnorwoodaz – Of all those seniors you listed above the only ones that may leave a big hole to fill are Lindsay and Nix. If Bryan Murphy plays in 2012 and Tom Ricketts gets a starting slot we may just forget about those two rather quickly. Lindsay and Nix were not major contributors this particular season. KK Smith and Aaron Donald will fill in for our two departing interior defensive lineman who are leaving and I wouldn’t be surprised if they exceed the level of play we saw this season.

All of the other players, while they are starters and played well sometimes, are certainly not irreplaceable. College teams have players leave every single year and every single year kids who played sparingly or not at all step up and produce well in their stead.

PITT has a lot of returning starters who are more than capable of good play and we have an incoming recruiting class and players who were redshirted this season who, while haven’t been tested at this level could come in and contribute right away.

Honestly, I think that personnel wise, and given the fact that we’ll be going back to the pro-style offense, we are in better shape than we were at this time last year. Every PITT fan pretty much knew that it would take at least two years for Graham to get the types of players he wanted on the field. Chryst has the luxury of knowing that 3/4ths of his roster was recruited to play his style of ball.

Comment by Reed 01.09.12 @ 6:22 am

Pitt’s D will be fine and even better next year, but you can’t turn the page with Tino back. And that OL is real bad but our new coaches are the best in the business and we have some good recruits and transfers coming in. This was the first game this season where I saw Pitt quit. I can’t blame the players. They have been through a lot. On to next season and better things to come.

Comment by TX Panther 01.09.12 @ 8:04 am

I get the whole Myers didn’t fit the system with TG thing. But, isn’t there something to be said to going out and competing for your spot? For example, when Voytik was asked if he was concerned about Pitt going back to a pro-style offense, he said something along the lines of the system doesn’t matter I can run anything.

All really know about Myers is that he is big and has good arm strength, right? There is a lot more to being a QB than size and strength. Plus, if my memory is right, Myers only started 1 year in HS. So his experience of leading a team is very limited. I just don’t get how he only started 1 year in HS. The guy he played behind his junior year, Andrew Holland 6”2″, was an unranked 3 star recruit. Nothing too special. I’m not saying HS experience is neccessary it just seems weird to me.

Comment by Wardapalooza 01.09.12 @ 8:48 am

IT’OVER == THANK GOODNESS!! == Please get this offense out of town. bring on the FB & dbl TE’s pride & power == this team was not ready & certainly did not want to be playing football. I can’t stand the losing anymore!!! I hope PC did not resign after the game after watching that mess. If PC goes 9-4 next yeat w/this talent he should automatically receive coach of the year award. Whatever curse has fallen on PITT recently I hope it ends by the end of BB season. I CAN NOT TAKE THE LOSING ATMOSHPERE ANYMORE!!! HAIL TO PITT IN 2012. Regarding Myers >> He would look good in a W&J uniform==not the future PITT QB.*

Comment by DC33 01.09.12 @ 9:20 am

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