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December 13, 2011

Here’s the situation. No one is happy with Tino Sunseri as Pitt’s starting QB. The thought of a third year of brain locks. Of holding the ball too long. Of staring down receivers. Of not setting feet. Of not being able to make accurate throws of more than 10-15 yards down field. Well, no one wants that. Not the fans. Not the coaches. To quote a race of hyper-intelligent, pan-dimensional beings, “The prospect of doing it all over again… quite frankly gives me the screaming heebie-jeebies, you know what I mean?”

Unfortunately, at the present the options on the roster are limited. That means Pitt needs another QB for 2012 who can play right away.

Jared Johnson is not really a QB that can necessarily come right in and start in 2012 any more than Chad Voytik. Yet, he is being pursued by Pitt.

Johnson initially committed to Baylor last spring, but reopened his recruitment in October. He might still sign with Baylor, but he’s looking around.

He’s a dual threat QB, and a 3-star recruit across the recruiting services. He’s also capable of playing defense. Scout.com, for example, lists him as a safety prospect despite is apparent desire to play QB.

His biggest issue as a QB — height. He’s listed at anywhere from 6-0 to 6-2. As the ESPN.com evaluation puts it (Insider subs.):

If Johnson was taller he would be a high profile BCS level recruit. However, his height is limiting his recruitment, but…

Pause. Digest.Here’s the rest.

…that does not negate the fact that Johnson can really sling it. He has good bulk and a very live arm. His release is so smooth and consistent and he is capable of making every throw on the field when his feet are set. He is a pocket passer first. He possesses very good arm strength. Shows great zip on the deep out route. Shows touch and timing as a vertical passer. Can drive the ball downfield and will fit it into tight spots. Has a quick release and shows the ability to get rid of the ball in a hurry. He shows good overall accuracy. Displays nice RPMs on intermediate routes. Works primarily from the shotgun and wastes little time getting set, working through progressions and getting the ball out. He is a good athlete, but a passer first. Can and will run, can keep plays alive and throws very well on the move and when off balance.

The other negative cited, is that he doesn’t always do a good job with the footwork.

No highlights from his senior season, but here are the junior highlights.

Uninformed verdict: Closer to likely than unlikely.

Pitt is in the running, because Todd Dodge is in on the recruitment. Do not underestimate his impact in recruiting quarterbacks from Texas high schools. Johnson would be great to get because he would be a nice security blanket, but it may not be the best situation for Johnson. How much he can help in 2012 instead of Chad Voytik, seems to be a real question mark.

He’s still got offers from Oregon and Baylor. Both run an offense he can be comfortable. Not sure how interested he is in Oregon since they already have 2 QB commits for 2012. Baylor now can point to their Heisman winner, Robert Griffin III. Plus, they only have one QB in the 2012 class. Unlike Pitt, the Baylor QB commit isn’t a top-prospect. Neither, though, made his final cut (Insider subs).

Johnson, a 6-foot-1, 205-pound, dual-threat quarterback, said Pittsburgh will visit him Tuesday, and Texas State will visit on Wednesday. Johnson said Pittsburgh, Texas State and Memphis are the three schools that have made his final list.

Johnson said Pittsburgh’s move to the ACC is an attractive opportunity. He said that Texas State catches his attention because of the opportunity to help build a legacy. Texas State is jumping from FCS play to FBS play and a spot in the WAC next season.

Johnson added that Memphis is a major player primarily because of persistency. The Memphis coaching staff has been a part of Johnson’s recruiting process since the beginning.

I won’t lie. The final three is a strange list. Some of it may come down to how comfortable he is to be far from home. Memphis is less than 500 miles from Grand Prairie, while Pittsburgh is well over 1200.





I’m not impressed. The ball does not come out quickly. He hold it like you know who….

Comment by VSPanther 12.13.11 @ 12:31 pm

TG has no choice but to bring in more than one QB. Anderson will develop but other than that they have nothing. That is down right frightening.

Comment by notrocketscience 12.13.11 @ 12:42 pm

Going by the highlight reel alone, I think he looks really good running the option. However, on all the pass plays he hangs on to the ball a pretty long time and then underthrows the receiver. Of course, his O-line looks rather porous on that film, so it may be unfair to judge his passing abilities from those highlights. I assume the coaches have a better view or they wouldn’t be interested. We need to build a stable of capable QBs fast, so IMO it’s probably worth taking a few risks like this to try to find some diamonds in the rough.

I also noticed that his receivers actually come back to the ball when the QB is scrambling like they are supposed to – unlike some of ours. Maybe we should be looking at those guys too!

Comment by Steve 12.13.11 @ 1:14 pm

Please, dear God. Anybody but more Tino Sunseri. Either that or I may hafta start watching another team for a year just for my mental health and blood pressure to normalize.

Plus I’m running out of shoes to throw at the TV after each Sackseri bone-head play.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.13.11 @ 1:28 pm

I just watched the kid’s junior highlights. My thoughts:

1. Wow that kid would look good in a Pitt uniform! He’d look even better in the Script throwbacks, but I digress…

2. Pitt hasn’t had a QB that could run away from people like that since Robert Heygood back in the 70s. Some of you are too young to remember…

3. Tino Sunseri would have managed to turn those open plays into sacks, because he can’t throw a ball that far with a gun to his head.

4. Instead, our local hero would have waited too long for a middle route to open, after which he would throw the ball too (high)(short)(wide)(alternate).

5. With respect, I don’t know what you guys saw: Jared got the ball out in time / just fine.

6. Maybe when it comes to Grand Prairie TX, it’s preferrable to be 1,200 miles away than merely 500 miles?

7. Even if I hadn’t seen the junior tape, all I’d need to know is that Oregon wants him (too).

Good enough for me! And he has one more thing going for him: he’s not Tino Sunseri…

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.13.11 @ 1:42 pm

Tino had a glowing review coming out of high school, and we all know how thats work out. I hope he does sign though, we need as many people as we can to compete for the QB position.

Comment by Pittastic 12.13.11 @ 1:43 pm

Chas and Reed,

Any word on kids that were being recruited by ex coaching staff ie. Watson et al.

Comment by gc 12.13.11 @ 1:54 pm

We’d be better off with a juco transfer or 5th year transfer. There are better QB’s at the 4 (soon to be 5) high schools in Mansfield right down the highway.

Comment by TX Panther 12.13.11 @ 2:08 pm

Oh, and one more observation, for what it’s worth:

8. I know it’s comparing a junior highlight tape versus one iffy appearance on ESPN-U. But based on these, Jared Johnson looks better than 4-star Chad Voytik. A lot better.

And presumably, JJ’s senior year should be better yet.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.13.11 @ 2:09 pm

Even if he didn’t improve a whit in his senior year, no joke I’d play this kid as a HS junior over Tino Sunseri as a college senior.

It’s not Tino’s fault that he’s a short slow guy with a weak scatter-arm. It IS his fault, however, that he’s stubborn and uncoachable.

I say let some poor and unsuspecting D-III or NAIA team have the pleasure of his services for his senior year.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.13.11 @ 2:15 pm

How the mighty have fallen penn state has been turned down bye many big name head coachs.
they are now talking to the head coach of navy.
they have lost 4 recruits from there class 2 of them 4 stars.

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 3:09 pm

PITT had also been looking at a QB named Gunnar Holcombe but he commited to marshall on dec 12

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 3:20 pm

imma man, i wouldnt say he looks better than voytik. i think its clear to see that johnson, at the very least, is a tremendous athlete. also, i think height for spread option qbs is a liottle over rated. voytik is 6’1″ on a good day but when youre athletic, can make all the throws, and can run height isnt important at all. look at drew brees. im not johnson, obviously, but looking at that top 3 list of schools, pitts kind of an obvious choice. pitt also needs to get this deon anthony. hes also a freak athlete who can make all the throws

Comment by pk 12.13.11 @ 3:34 pm

FOUND a intresting site it had on it players Tod Dodge was to recruit the are called targets there were 9 of them 5 went to outher schools.
Voytik he got to commit.
3 of them are still in play qb jared johnson whohas 10 officers but has pruned his list to 3
RB greg garmon a 4 star who has at least 12 officers .
And a QB named kason key from texas who has no officers .
i thought it was neet becuse it showed who the coach was to recruit dont know if we were to see the list or not probley not.

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 4:48 pm

Kinda reminds me a bit of Tyrod Taylor in the way he eludes the rush and runs with the ball.

Comment by Outlaw 12.13.11 @ 4:49 pm

I think the noun form of “persistence” is, well, “persistence”. Who wrote the article about Johnson’s final list?

Comment by JTC 12.13.11 @ 4:58 pm

“5. With respect, I don’t know what you guys saw: Jared got the ball out in time / just fine.”

Hi Imma Man – What I saw was that pretty much all the passes on the highlight reel were broken plays where he throws while scrambling under pressure. Yes, he didn’t take any sacks, but it didn’t look like any of those throws were out when they were designed to be. There’s certainly nothing there that shows the sort of “1,2,3, out” timing like TG’s offense requires, or even a normal pocket pass. Count the seconds from snap to throw. Note also that most or all of those passes were underthrown, but his receivers had the presence of mind to come back to the ball.

So, I don’t know if he’s holding the ball to long there or if he simply has a terrible O-line, but desparately throwing while running from defenders is not what I call getting the ball out on time, whether or not you complete the pass or make a play. Against a higher-level defense, every one of those plays is a potential sack.

I realize this is very small sample but it is supposed to represent his best. I’m not saying he isn’t capable, or that his ability to avoid a sack and still make a play isn’t impressive. I’m just pointing out that given the highlights alone, you can’t really say that he’s definitely a guy who can get the ball out fast enough for this offense. I’m assuming that coaches have seen more than that or they wouldn’t be interested, but what’s there isn’t that impressive in terms of passing IMO. Great running, though.

I want to see someone better at the helm next year as much as you do, but just throwing anyone in there who isn’t Tino isn’t the answer. They need to find the guy with all the pieces in place.

Comment by Steve 12.13.11 @ 5:09 pm

Urban Meyers at ohio state is haveing a mutch harder time makeing up his staff than i thought he would.
Mike Stoops turned him down becuse he wanted to be defence coordinator not co defence coord’
and everett withers might be doeing it for same reason .

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 5:29 pm

Reply to Steve’s comment: “There’s certainly nothing there that shows the sort of “1,2,3, out” timing like TG’s offense requires, or even a normal pocket pass.”

Just a hunch, but I think the “1… 2… 3… and out” were trainign wheels that Todd Graham was forced to put on his dumbed-down (x3) offense so that even dense or stubborn (or both) Tino Sunseri could grasp. He can count to three, can’t he? Rhetorical, the jury’s still out on that.

And the second part of the hunch, if TG had a QB that could actually make a positive play after running around keeping it alive (Tebow-esqe?) — rather than turn into traffic and take stupid sacks all day long (Tino-esqe), he’d take off the training wheels.

It’s about building trust. I wouldn’t trust Tino Sunseri to mow my lawn, but I confess I’ve lost all perspective (and trust) in him. But if a kid like Jared Johnson comes in and runs around but makes plays like he did on his highlight reel (EXACTLY like Oregon’s offense does), then I’d be thrilled. And, I suspect, so would TG.

Just a hunch, but it makes sense to me.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.13.11 @ 6:10 pm

Actually throwing someone in there who isn’t Sunseri, is EXACTLY the answer.

1) If it’s Voytik or someone else as a true freshmen it will get this Triple Option Spread on the road where it needs to be.

2) Playing Sunseri again next year(even the thought makes one ill), is just delaying for another year the implementation of TG’s offense.

3) Another 7-5 or 6-6 season with Sunseri at the helm SERVES NO PURPOSE AT ALL ! (except those of the Sunseri’s and DW) And 7-5 or 6-6 is what you’re going to get, as since Sunseri became the starter, PITT hasn’t beat one quality team.

4) If we’re going to be a middling team next year, I’d rather be a middling team with a freshman qb getting experience in 2012, not 2013.

5) The season ticket sales will be absolutely dreadful if Sunseri is qb and walkup sales will be non-existent. So will take a big hit financially as well.

So we don’t need to find a guy with all the pieces in place, we just need to move on and end Tino time.

Comment by Emel 12.13.11 @ 6:15 pm

After watching this kid’s video, he can certainly run the option read. As he runs very well and that’s what you need in this version of the Triple Option Spread. As far as the pass plays selected for this video, were they trying to show that this kid can make plays? Which is what you need, because 1, 2, out is not always going to be open, so then you need someone who can make plays.

It’s been so long at PITT that we’ve actually had a QB that can make plays when the play breaks down, maybe some of you have forgot what that looks like.

When you have a running threat like this kid and someone who has the speed to take it the distance, it opens up the field exponentially. I don’t think a lot of people understand how limited an offense we’re running and how many missed opportunities we had to score points or make big plays with this slow footed, slow thinking Safety playing QB.

I know TG knows, for he had GJ Kinney at Tulsa who regularly ran for over 100 yards and passed for over 250 or 300 yards each game.

Comment by Emel 12.13.11 @ 6:33 pm

EMel well said

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 6:35 pm

EMel i thing i dont get is i posted abought abought jered johnson 4 or 5 days ago and no one said a thing on the post abought it i thought it was news to day chas posts abought him and every one talks abought it .
thats the way it goes i gess

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 6:40 pm

EMel did you read abought the list i found abought who TODD Dodge was to recruit i thought that was very intresting but no posts back on it .
i dont get it.

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 6:56 pm

It’s been a while since cheering a QB

Comment by Pitt is IT 12.13.11 @ 7:07 pm

“4) If we’re going to be a middling team next year, I’d rather be a middling team with a freshman qb getting experience in 2012, not 2013.”

Clearly, Emel is a genius.

But it’s even worse. Playing Tino the Magnificent (snicker…) means we’ll stink next year AND 2013 because we’ll be breaking in a rookie QB while presumably starting play in the ACC. Unthinkable.

And (if Sackseri plays next year) while Todd Graham is packing up his office in late December 2013 after being fired for three mediocre (or worse…) seasons, he’ll be kicking himself, muttering to himself, “Why o why did I play that knucklehead uncoachable lost-cause at QB for two years…”

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.13.11 @ 7:21 pm

I plan on deep frying a Tino turkey come New Years Day. Sorry that this kid sucks as quarterback but he might taste good in peanut oil. I’ll bet my 10 gallon hat that Tino’s not back next year. Might have to go back to fryin Nitter or Hoopie instead.

Comment by TX Panther 12.13.11 @ 8:28 pm

Guys, I just don’t think there is a quick fix to the QB situation. My gut tells me Gonzales will be QB1 next year.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 12.13.11 @ 8:38 pm

tx panther you are all hat no cattle tinos gone let it be

Comment by paul shannon 12.13.11 @ 8:51 pm

tx panther you are all hat no cattle tinos gone let it be

Comment by paul shannon 12.13.11 @ 8:51 pm

EMel did you read abought the list i found abought who TODD Dodge was to recruit i thought that was very intresting but no posts back on it .
i dont get it.

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.13.11 @ 6:56 pm

No Frank, I didn’t see that list, can you post a link to it?

Thanks

Comment by Emel 12.13.11 @ 8:58 pm

But it’s even worse. Playing Tino the Magnificent (snicker…) means we’ll stink next year AND 2013 because we’ll be breaking in a rookie QB while presumably starting play in the ACC. Unthinkable.

And (if Sackseri plays next year) while Todd Graham is packing up his office in late December 2013 after being fired for three mediocre (or worse…) seasons, he’ll be kicking himself, muttering to himself, “Why o why did I play that knucklehead uncoachable lost-cause at QB for two years…”
Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.13.11 @ 7:21 pm

Agree Imma Man

If TG goes 6-6 two seasons and 7-5 for one, IMO, he’ll be gone after year 3. And if that’s because for two of those seasons he played Terrible Tino then he deserves the pink slip after year 3. I would bring in as many QB’s as it takes to make sure Sunseri is wearing a ballcap and holding a clipboard next year.

Comment by Emel 12.13.11 @ 9:03 pm

How is it that the Memphis coaching staff has been recruiting him from the beginning, even though they just hired a new head coach a week ago?

Comment by Lollard 12.13.11 @ 10:42 pm

And by the way, considering Briles recruited both Griffin and Keenum, I’d say he has a good eye for QB talent. So maybe we can scoop this guy up in the end.

Comment by Lollard 12.13.11 @ 10:43 pm

Darius White a 5 star wr 2 years ago wants to transfer out of texas i wonder if TG will try for the kid.

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.14.11 @ 1:36 am

I’mma Man – Joe D. from the Redshirt Diaries says hello. That ‘dumbing down’ of the offense wasn’t so much for Sunseri’s benefit as it was targeted for the OL and the WRs. The OL was getting a ton of procedural penalties along with thier mistakes and the WRs weren’t able to execute the more complicated timing routes out of different formations.

Sunseri grasped the offense well in the camps and was able to execute the no-huddle fine. His problems lie elsewhere.

But those problems above are pretty much to be expected when instituting an offense that is, execution, terminology, responsibility and scheme wise, 180 degrees different then what was in-place in 2010. It will be better next year regardless of who the QB is and they will have it perfected, IMO, by 2013 when basically every kid on the roster is either Graham’s recruits of DW’s recruits who have had at least two years of it…. and when Sunseri is gone for sure and other QBs have at least one or two years in the system.

Guys, QB height just doesn’t matter in this offense as, when it is working correctly the QB will be in the shotgun getting quick passes off before the DL closes or moving with the ball after faking a handoff on the read-option. Players at 6’0″ will be fine and, really, Sunseri didn’t have many problems with that this season with few passes blocked.

That said, a guy like 5’9″ Ronald Jones would have a hard time of it if he was to play regular QB.

Graham even looking at another HS QB is a pretty big deal as he told Voytik that he would he the only QB recruited this year. Of course that was before the season started. But don’t hold your breath for any other HS QB to waltz in and play before Voytik – Graham is hanging his hat on getting him out on the field as soon as is feasible.

Thabeets – Gonzalez would be a contender only if Dodge devotes all his time in the camps and practices to get AG’s passing up to this level. He just doesn’t have it yet to be able to play regularly.

No matter what we all think about the need for a running QB, Graham’s main focus is still in the passing game – that is where this offense, when run correctly, thrives. Graham has stated that he wants his QB to take off 8-10 times a game. Out of, let’s say 85 offensive plays that is 10%. He is still going to basically split the rest of the snaps between passes and runs at 55-45 if possible so the QB will be throwing around 35 times a game.

This season the staff CALLED, not attempted, 451 passing plays to 431 rushing plays (sacks I counted as called passing plays) which breaks out to averaging 38 passing plays called per game. Gonzalez just can’t handle that at this point.

NotRocket – good that you remember Anderson. I believe he’ll still be on the roster next year and will get a good look during the camps also. His wrist’s condition is pretty serious though.

GC – Watson is still being recruited hard and has narrowed down to two schools – PITT being one and considered the leader.

Comment by Reed 12.14.11 @ 4:49 am

Why not Jones? on team now, taken snaps, knows some of the offense (Wildcat), thrown for TD’s, big play maker, has a QB number 14. was a QB in High School.
Why not Jones?

Comment by Tackle made by Hugh 12.14.11 @ 8:21 am

Reed i dont know if this means mutch but of the 4 QBs that they were recruting 3 were rated pro style only JJ was rated as dual threat so that would seam to back up what you posted.

Comment by FRANKCAN 12.14.11 @ 8:57 am

Can’t agree that Sunseri didn’t have problems seeing receivers at times; maybe he just mentally didn’t see guys… Jared J. has great feet and quickness, 100% better than our current qb; not sure if he is an accurate thrower based on the highlights. QB height matters some, but throwing accurately on the run is more important, hence the search for a new qb.

Comment by dbricker 12.14.11 @ 9:55 am

Jones wouldn’t last an entire game with the pounding he’d take. He is small.

Comment by JW 12.14.11 @ 10:00 am

Reed, I wasn’t aware that TG told Voytik he would be the only QB recruited this year. I’m assuming he made this statement prior to the season because he thought that Sunseri would be, at the very least, adequate in this offense for two years allowing Voytik to start as a redshirt freshman or sophmore. Is this correct? When did he make that statement?

Comment by JAM 05 Pitt 12.14.11 @ 10:06 am

Imma Man! – I don’t think the “1,2,3′ and out” thing was simply to prevent sacks, I think it was also about ingraining the fact that much of TGs passing offense consists of timing plays that must be out within a few second of the snap to work. Obviously, none of the QBs on the roster ever mastered that, and it’s something that I would assume is the most difficult thing for QB to adjust to if they never had to do it before. So, I’d prefer that whoever new we bring in doesn’t have the same issue.

My point was simply we need to find someone who can definitely make the timing passes and downfield throws, not just someone who can run and scramble. I was only pointing out that there is nothing in the highlight reel that shows this kid doing anything like that, only hurling underthrown passes on the run on broken plays. Again, I don’t know whether or not he can run this offense, that’s for the coaches to decide, but the highlight reel doesn’t show anything that impresses me in terms of passing ability in either of those areas.

I think some people here are no longer capable of looking at this objectively, and get too spun up about everyone who isn’t Tino. I swear, every time some guy that threw a pass in high-school gets mentioned, a bunch of Pitt fans want to make him the QB. I’m not comparing this kid to Tino, nor am I suggesting that Tino should be an option for next season. I’m just trying to move forward and look at the other candidates for what they actually offer, not just obsess about what Tino couldn’t do (which we all already know about). People here need to take a step back and stop looking at every candidate simply as “not-Tino”. I don’t want to trade sacks for interceptions next year.

Comment by Steve 12.14.11 @ 10:10 am

Anyone know if Voytik is enrolling this Spring? This would make a huge difference.

Comment by Pitt it Is 12.14.11 @ 10:17 am

Pitt it Is, I heard or read somewhere (maybe on Dokish’s blog?) that for some reason Voytik won’t enroll (can’t or won’t? dunno which …) until summer.

So (if that’s true) he’ll miss Spring Drills.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.14.11 @ 11:01 am

Reply to Steve, “People here need to take a step back and stop looking at every candidate simply as “not-Tino”. I don’t want to trade sacks for interceptions next year.”

I see your point, with one caveat.

Yes, we should look at each guy’s skill set and not just play any old Joe Icanfoggamirror. For example, no need to run you or me out there (if I never played, do I still have D-1 eligibility left? rhetorical…).

But if, for whatever reason, they whiff on recruiting a JC or having somebody else ready (Gonzo? Myers? Anderson?), they still CANNOT think of Tino Sackseri as an option under any circumstances, dude’s toxic, he’s scorched earth.

First of all, TS is a program killer: playing him will cost the school million$ in lost season tix revenue (there is zero point zero chance that I will renew if it means having to watch Local Hero stink up the joint) and lost TV revenue.

Second, TS the Uncoachable is a coach-killer: if my above premise pays out (i.e., TG plays TS and gets fired in 2013), he’ll have cost Todd Graham personal million$. He’ll get canned, plus will be forced to start over at some back-water school.

I don’t criticize (point out? yes; criticize? no)the lad for his obvious lack of physical tools (too short, too slow, weak-armed, scatter-armed, etc.). But I will continue to decry his poor attitude: playing to his own agenda for God knows what reason(s), refusing to listen to his coaches, etc. Fair game.

As any parent knows, a child’s bad behavior is more contagious in siblings than good behavior. In short, if TG plays Boy Wonder next year despite his having exhibited such a crappy attitude, he’ll lose the whole team and fan base in one fell swoop.

Hence, ANYBODY but Tino. On second thought, maybe even you and I (kidding, sorta…).

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 12.14.11 @ 11:17 am

“Sunseri grasped the offense well in the camps and was able to execute the no-huddle fine. His problems lie elsewhere.” REED

Reed so Tino grasped the O well in camps and was able to execute the no-huddle fine? What he can catch the ball from Turnley… The only good thing about Tino’s grasp of the O was really a bad thing because this HS darling was the best of a piss-poor lot of QBs. Freakin think about it Reed, our best option insured this team of a mediocre record. He plays more afraid than Stull did when he first started. As for problems lying elsewhere, the team’s primary problem lays at the feet of Tino. I go news for you, Tino will not be the QB next year.

I cannot understand your mantra of Tino being in the mix for the QB position next year. You continue to post of worrying about not enough options next year at QB. Believe me Reed, coach has seen enough of Tino and is smart enough to end that experiment in the bowl game. It was an experiment born out of necessity due to the piss-poor QBs on the roster (thanks DW).

Comment by Kenny 12.14.11 @ 11:43 am

TODD GRAHAM LEAVING PITT FOR ASU link to tracking.si.com

Comment by pittjd 12.14.11 @ 1:05 pm

LET THE CALAMITY BEGIN!!!!

Comment by pittjd 12.14.11 @ 1:06 pm

Fire Steve Pederson

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