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December 6, 2011

Getting That First Win Without Woodall

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 4:05 am

No Tennessee is not a particularly good team. They aren’t some low, mid-major either. Nor are they USF bad (have to adjust since DePaul looks kind of frisky this year). What they are is a major conference team, playing at home while struggling with a coaching change and departed talent. Pitt has higher aspirations, but played that game without their starting point guard for the first time this year.

In other words, this game was tougher for Pitt — not because of the opponent or being on the road — but because they were playing their first game with an adjusted line-up. John Johnson and Cameron Wright found their minutes upped significantly and Ashton Gibbs rarely left the court. Aside from Lamar Patterson getting a few extra minutes, because Pitt didn’t go to a 3-guard line-up with Woodall out, the rest of the line-up and minutes did not vary much more from normal.

Starting with the younger players, Cam Wright and John Johnson picked up the minutes.

Wright, a redshirt freshman from Cleveland, made his first career start. Although he did not score — going 0 for 6 from the field — he had two assists and did not have a turnover in 25 minutes. Johnson, a freshman from Philadelphia, had eight points, three assists and one turnover in 18 minutes off the bench.

That duo will receive the bulk of the playing time at guard until Woodall returns to the lineup.

“I thought John played really well and I thought Cameron played well,” Dixon said. “He didn’t make shots. He took some good ones, but he defended well, and that’s what we needed from him.”

Johnson will be counted to provide most of the offense that Woodall had been contributing. Woodall was averaging 14.1 points and 8.3 assists per game. Johnson is one of the most productive players in Dixon’s lineup when his statistics are broken down by the minute.

The downside to Cam Wright is that he just is not a very good shooter. He can play tough defense, but that has been a little inconsistent to start the season. That aspect seems to be coming around, as his minutes (and presumably confidence) have improved. When you factor in his size, he has the potential to be a vital perimeter defender.

Johnson has good hands and is definitely a natural scorer. His drawback, defensively, is that he is under 6-feet (I know that he is listed at 6-1, but I don’t know anyone that buys that). Bigger guards will potentially overpower him.

Isiah Epps really didn’t make it out on the court, despite being a point guard. Coach Dixon isn’t saying that Epps won’t play, but it’s clear that Epps still has not convinced Dixon and the other coaches that he’s done enough in practice to play in the games.

Not that there may be a choice. Gibbs played 38 minutes against Tennessee, something Coach Dixon acknowledged cannot happen too often — along with taking off the ball a bit more.

“It’s too much,” the Pitt coach said. “It’s too many minutes.”

Gibbs logged a season-high 38 minutes in the Panthers’ first game without Tray Woodall. Guards Cam Wright (25) and John Johnson (18) set career-highs in minutes, but Dixon said he needs more from them with Woodall sidelined for the next four to five weeks with an abdominal tear and groin strain.

Pitt (7-1) hosts Virginia Military Institute (3-4) on Tuesday at Petersen Events Center.

“We got the ball in (Gibbs’) hands a lot,” Dixon said. “I hope we can get away from that a little bit. We’ve got to get him off the ball a little bit more.”

As for the game itself against Tennessee, it was a strange set of halves. In the first half, Tennessee was going strong inside to score. They shot over 50% and were controlling the boards 16-15. Two things, though, really hurt them. Seven first half turnovers were brutal. It wasn’t like Pitt was aggressively killing them. They were just careless and sloppy. While Pitt shot poorly (sub-40%) in the first half, they grabbed 9 offensive rebounds for second chances. Nas had 4 of them. Between the turnovers and offensive rebounds, Pitt ended up taking 11 more shots than Tennessee in the first half. Volume was able to barely trump accuracy as Pitt took a 1-point lead into the half.

The second half saw the defense tighten up inside. Tennessee didn’t get the clean looks inside — the Tennessee front court that was responsible for 18 points in the first half only came up with 8 in the second half. Pitt started dominating them on the glass as well. Nasir Robinson after a couple of off games went for a double-double. A solid consistent game.

The one thing that kept Pitt from putting it away — missing free throws. In the final 30 seconds Pitt missed the front end of a one-and-one three times. That was where not having Woodall was noticeable. Woodall is the only 80%+ FT shooter other than Gibbs (Johnson is 100%, but only 5 FTs on the year). Pitt couldn’t get the ball as easily to a guard. Dante Taylor, twice ended up with the ball because one guard was inbounding and the other guard was double-teamed. Here are the FT % of the other Pitt players:

Patterson, 72.7 (8-11)

Moore, 66.7 (4-6)

Robinson 63.2 (12-19)

Wright, 60.0 (3-5)

Taylor 58.3 (7-12)

Birch 55.0 (11-20)

Zanna 35.7 (5-14)

Without Woodall, teams are going to be all over Gibbs. There’s going to be a bit of sweating of free throws if Pitt is holding on to a lead late in the game for the next month.





I heard what Dixon said about keeping Taylor in for those free throws… I just don’t know why you don’t keep another guard in there.. over a 58% free throw shooter.

Why not have nas inbound, with gibbs, johnson, moore and patterson ? (granted patterson missed)

Comment by Snala The Panther 12.06.11 @ 9:48 am

And is tonight’s game on tv or the web anywhere ?

Comment by Snala The Panther 12.06.11 @ 9:49 am

foul shooting has plagued Panther hoops for decades. Coaches can teach technique, but its ultimately on the players to make the damn shots. I can painfully live with the Bigs shooting 50-60% (guards need to shoot 75+) IF they at least make the first of these one and ones. Sounds silly to accept 1/2 but it makes a huge difference during the final minute(s) with a slim lead. Taylor and Lamar missing their firsts almost cost us that game.

The coaches on this blog can add their own successful FT techniques, but BEEF is a tried and true method. So where’s the BEEF Jamie?

Comment by Bossdaws 12.06.11 @ 9:57 am

snala, Nas made his 1st 8 FTs this year but has gone 4 for 11 since. Not sure we have a frontcourtman who can be dependable on the FT.

I believe the game is on ESPN 3 but not 100% sure

Comment by wbb 12.06.11 @ 10:13 am

Nas is just as inconsistent as anyone else at the free-throw line. This year he’s shooting better, historically he’s really bad. Taylor’s historically not that bad, and you need a F/C in for defensive reasons. Taylor’s probably (or at least SHOULD be) the best F/C option for the late game possessions.

Comment by PantherP 12.06.11 @ 10:38 am

Tonight’s game only seems to be on the Panther network on local Pittsburgh area Comcast. Hopefully someone will stream it on one of those web tv sites.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 12.06.11 @ 10:42 am

Excellent anaysis as always Chas!

Tonights game is being Broadcast locally on Pitt Panther television (comcast). Channels 188 and 210. That’s it as far as I can tell.

Comment by Steelfan 12.06.11 @ 10:49 am

As a former coach and teacher of foul shooting for 15 years, I see a huge change in all the Pitt players in their shooting form vs last year. Someone has worked with the entire team but the new form has to be tested (and succeed)under pressure before it is trusted by the players.
This year, with Nas, Taylor,and a few others..I see correct balance, proper elbow position, proper ball positioning, proper follow through and a minimum of preshot motion. I suspect you will find by year’s end, a huge upside and team shooting percentage. All they need is to learn to trust the new form.

Comment by Dan 72 12.06.11 @ 10:59 am

Excellent point Chas, the FTs will be an issue for a young team that clearly doesn’t have much margin for error in the first place as it finds itself.

Comment by Joe 12.06.11 @ 11:06 am

Birch is a better option than Taylor in late game situations because he is a better defender. He can block or alter shots. Taylor doesn’t bring much of that to the table.

Comment by omar 12.06.11 @ 11:10 am

In fact, Birch changed the game midway through the second half with his defense. I sound like a broken record, but this team is much better with Birch. The kid needs to play 20-30 minutes a game. Come on Coach, let him play.

Comment by omar 12.06.11 @ 11:12 am

Birch also has a better FT stroke than Taylor.

Comment by JW 12.06.11 @ 11:14 am

This next statistic is pretty unbelievable. Khem Birch is second in the country in block percentage. The number is 16%. Birch blocks 16% of the opponents shots when he is in the game. This compares to 4.4% for Taylor. For a team with a defense that is the definition of mediocre, this is a huge statistic.

Birch doesn’t show up in the national numbers because he plays less than 40% of the minutes (38.8%). 16% is a ridiculous number and would lead all major conference players.

Obviously the number will drop. Assume it goes down by 1/3rd, this is still triple what Taylor is bringing to the table. Pitt’s defense is currently ranked #153 out of 300+ teams, the offense is #2. Do you think Birch’s talent might help the defense? The answer is yes.

Comment by omar 12.06.11 @ 11:27 am

off topic but San Diego is considered to be East .. who knew?

link to boston.com
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actually, congrats to BE if true … but glad that Pitt doesn’t have to travel

Comment by wbb 12.06.11 @ 12:47 pm

if true, then Pitt and pSU will be facing new BE members in bowl

also, this change is to be implemented in 2013 … which may mean that next season is our final BE season

Comment by wbb 12.06.11 @ 12:50 pm

I don’t see why it has to be Dante Taylor or Birch argument. I’d move Taylor back to his natural position and play him with Birch. But we all know that is never happening.

The only problem with playing Birch huge minutes right now is that his offense isn’t there yet.

I’m guess that by the end of the season Birch will be playing more and we will see a much improved Pitt team. Remember the goal is to win in March and not peak in January.

Comment by Wardapalooza 12.06.11 @ 1:03 pm

I have definitely noticed an improvement since Long Beach and LaSalle … and Pitt has just keep getting better. I think playing time will depend in large part due to match-ups, and I believe that evryone on the 2-deep will make worthy contributions over the course of the season.

Comment by wbb 12.06.11 @ 1:31 pm

Agreed.. the team needs to get hot in March (hopefully april) ala uconn.

Comment by Snala The Panther 12.06.11 @ 1:56 pm

Omar, I agree that Khem Birch has to play, but keep in mind that we also need Dante Taylor. If he and Talib Zanna work well together, that will give the Panthers a very athletic front court when they’re in together and working well with Birch, will get Zanna more playing time. Nassir Robinson and Taylor work well together, and Nassir is a terrific finisher inside, so he has to play. I think all four have to play a lot and who plays, should be determined by the match-ups and the situations involved. It’s still early in the season, and the primary concern is at point guard spot with Travon Woodall out.

Comment by Justinian 12.06.11 @ 2:02 pm

Jamie rarely plays the matchup. Pitt does what Pitt does. Jamie doesn’t worry about the opponent. He goes into a game with a plan and a rotation predetermined. He will deviate from the plan only if forced to because of foul trouble or occaissionally good (or bad) play. But never due to a matchup.

I have been complaining about it for years, especially last year with all that depth/diversity, but have finally just come to accept it. IT IS WHAT IT IS…..

Comment by boubacar aw 12.06.11 @ 2:31 pm

I don’t agree with that at all. What are you referring to about last year?

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 12.06.11 @ 3:36 pm

Birch and Zanna seem to have some chemistry together when they are on the court. I like Taylor paired with Nasir and then Birch and Zanna. Both combo’s can be effective.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 12.06.11 @ 3:44 pm

I don’t know when people are going to understand that Dante Taylor’s natural position is the 5. He cannot, I repeat, CANNOT play power forward in modern day college basketball. IMPOSSIBLE.

Apparently the aforementioned statistics were not conclusive enough. I will reiterate using words: Pitt loses next to nothing offensively when Khem Birch plays and gains a tremendous amount defensively. THE GUY BLOCKS THE OPPENENTS SHOT 16% OF THE TIME HE IS ON THE FLOOR. 16%!!!!!! SECOND IN THE COUNTRY. THE TEAM IS RANKED 153 DEFENSIVELY. THEY NEED KHEM BIRCH TO PLAY.

Comment by omar 12.06.11 @ 3:45 pm

Anybody know if this game can be viewed online at all ?

Comment by Snala The Panther 12.06.11 @ 4:06 pm

It’s not on ESPN3, unfortunately.

Comment by Dalek 12.06.11 @ 4:32 pm

there are two NBA prospects on this team right now: Gibbs and Birch. Gilbert with his size and shot blocking may develop and Adams next year, but this season its Gibbs and Birch. They need to be on the floor.

Birch will improve significantly this yr with experience and will be the leading shot blocker in the BE. Win No. 8 tonite. HTP

Comment by Bossdaws 12.06.11 @ 4:39 pm

[…] the ball in his hands in the next possession. Gibbs, in fact, took the last four free throws. As we saw in the Tennessee game, the struggle with FTs made the final score tighter than it needed to be. Just going to have to […]


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