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September 18, 2011

Wake Up And It’s A New Conference

Filed under: ACC,Big East,Conference — Chas @ 11:35 am

Is there a morning left for me to oversleep without missing something?

It is official. Pitt and Syracuse are moving to the ACC.

“The ACC has enjoyed a rich tradition by balancing academics and athletics and the addition of Pitt and Syracuse further strengthens the ACC culture in this regard,” Swofford said. “Pittsburgh and Syracuse also serve to enhance the ACC’s reach into the states of New York and Pennsylvania and geographically bridges our footprint between Maryland and Massachusetts. With the addition of Pitt and Syracuse, the ACC will cover virtually the entire Eastern Seaboard of the United States.”

The exact timeline is unclear. Big East rules call for a 27 month notice period — and the ACC stressed that they would abide the Big East bylaws. This may mean, a lot like what went down in the Big 12 last year that Pitt and Syracuse are going to have to surrender some extra money to the Big East to make it happen by next year.  We shall see on that front.

According to reports, and the teleconference, this came together very, very quickly. Like in less than a week. Both Syracuse and Pitt started talking to the ACC and both sides came together quickly. It makes it harder for conspiracists to make the claim that Pitt helped sabotage the Big East sellout extension with ESPN over the summer. As On The Banks pointed out, plenty of football schools in the Big East pushed back on that one. A deal that would have paid less than the ACC gets and that everyone — including Big East Commish Marinatto — was saying looked smart after the Pac-12 money deal came through.

The fact that Marinatto was completely blindsided by this just points out his incompetency. At least Mike Tranghese knew the ACC was sniffing around Miami and other Big East members in 2003. At least Tranghese knew there was dissatisfaction from the football membership. Marinatto has remained incompetently clueless and footdragging.

There is so much more to all of this. Heck the ACC is already talking about adding MSG to the ACC Tournament rotation. Well, assuming the Big East survives, that may be an issue but last I checked there may be some other arena now located in Brooklyn that could be available.

I expect that WVU, UConn and Rutgers will be fine. In the next couple of years they will likely find their own places in a major and stable conference. Whether it is with the full expansion to 16 teams — thus providing the openings in the ACC and SEC and Big 10. Or even a 14-team conference (WVU to the SEC rumors have not abated).

Teams like USF, Louisville and Cinci are understandibly unnerved. They are looking at having to band together with remnants of the Big 12 — and probably under the Big 12 banner since they have a real TV deal at the moment.

TCU? Well, they look royally screwed.

There will be lots of crap heaped on Pitt. There will be accusations of hypocrisy, greed and betrayal. That is understandable. The fact is, though, is that Pitt and its leadership worked harder than many in the conference to save the conference starting back in 2003. Something I fundamentally disagreed upon even then. The last year or so, finally opened their eyes to the basic, unsolvable problems of this kind of awkward dual-interest league.

Pitt and Syracuse are doing the right things for themselves. Just as all the members have and will do.





@Tampa T again

Wonder if I’ll get a response email from our girl Dane? Ya think ! haha

Comment by melvinbennett 09.18.11 @ 11:16 pm

She’s very clever, she made her article seem mainly directed at Syracuse. In fact it appears….that Pitt is just an afterthought until about halfway into the article, when she attacks PITT and Nordy with some vicious verbiage.

I called her out for it, I’d like to send a copy to her editor actually and call him out. Of course he more than likely ok’d this attack piece by his little attack dog, Dana.

Yellow journalism at it’s finest !!

Comment by melvinbennett 09.18.11 @ 11:32 pm

@melvinbennett

If you do get a response, you need to post it here. That would be interesting to read.

She’s writing as a columnist in that piece not as a reporter, so she’s OK stating her opinion. It just happens to be a pretty cynical, self-serving and misinformed one.

As you have found in your research, she has strong ties to the Big East. As many have stated, Pitt and Nordy did what they could to save the Big East over the years, which she uses to admonish rather than praise them. And as many have stated, Pitt was clear in its intentions over a year ago that if the Big East did not strengthen its football competition, they were going to explore their options, which she totally leaves out of her argument.

The Big East has only themselves to blame. The handwriting was on the wall. Pitt and most of the other football schools were unhappy. The Big East made no more than a half-assed effort to appease them, so why would anyone be surprised or upset that those schools are now bolting for other conferences.

I do feel bad for the football schools that will be left behind, but I’m guessing they’re all starting to look for options as well. So, the Big East will become what it wants to be, purely a basketball conference.

Comment by TampaT 09.19.11 @ 12:05 am

Well I’m pissed. Let ESPN write this article, about greed and hypocrisy, about themselves and their business partner, that being Texas and the ESPN Longhorn Network. That is what imploded the Big 12 and started this whole new phase of realignmentpalooza. And it’s mostly all being driven by the buck$ that ESPN/CBS/Fox Sports are providing as the bait. ESPN had revenues off of College football last year close to $400 million.
Not counting 2nd tier & 3rd tier revenues off of their other ESPN’s.

Let’s see how they report OU & Texas bolting the Big 12 tomorrow and how much greed and hypocrisy is reported then.

Comment by melvinbennett 09.19.11 @ 12:24 am

The colleges are only getting $10-$20 million or so each. The REAL WINNER IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS ESPN. THEY HAVE A LOT OF FRICKIN NERVE !!

Comment by melvinbennett 09.19.11 @ 12:27 am

Smizik gives PITT a big thumbs up!

Get on there and give him a 5 star rating gents:

link to communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com

Comment by melvinbennett 09.19.11 @ 1:14 am

Thanks for sharing this one. I really appreciate and enjoyed reading. Keep it up and good luck.

Comment by Steffie @ conference space 09.19.11 @ 2:08 am

Hey Mel, I’m giving her a good morning bombing on that Espn site. Dana, her name is. I would link my comment hear, not sure how to do that. Know how to link the site, but the comments????

Anyhow, tried to use Dan0, allready taken!! ha ha

So, mine is under ddlochness if you want a laugh!!!

Comment by Dan 09.19.11 @ 6:48 am

[…] Wake Up And It’s A New Conference: “It is official. Pitt and Syracuse are moving to the ACC […] The exact timeline is unclear. Big East rules call for a 27 month notice period — and the ACC stressed that they would abide the Big East bylaws. This may mean, a lot like what went down in the Big 12 last year that Pitt and Syracuse are going to have to surrender some extra money to the Big East to make it happen by next year.  We shall see on that front.” (Pitt Blather) […]


It may be that there are not enough teams to get to 8 which is what you need check this out. louisville south florida cincinnati tcu kansas st baylor iowa st that is 7 and every one else could have a new home. they we need to add NOVA OR UCF to get to 8 boy that would suck

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.19.11 @ 10:23 am

Just wanted to add my two cents that this was an AWESOME move by Nordenberg….Finally Pitt is proactive…the ACC is exactly where Pitt belongs. Glad ‘Cuse is along for the trip too. The Big East was going to die one way or another, and I’m glad Pitt was able to get out and land in a major conference and end all of the uncertainty about Pitt’s future. I also loved the ACC’s move to add a $20 million payout to any team that tries to abandon the conference, that’s really the way you keep this new ACC conference bound together. $$ is thicker than any other loyalty! As crass as that is, that’s really a strong move by the ACC commish. Now we don’t have to worry about the SEC trying to poach FSU or The U.

Anyone think Notre Dame is going to start to panic now and jump to the Big 10? That’s my feeling, expecially if the Big East dissolves altogether…ND will need somewhere for their other sports to play and a way to get to a bowlgame in non-BCS (ie: every) years, I don’t think the Big 10 will just roll over and let them part way in the way the morons in the Big East did….I predict ND is in the Big 10 by this time next year.

Comment by CJK 09.19.11 @ 11:06 am

The Newark Star-Ledger (available at nj.com) in a story on what RU does next, says ACC to 16 teams Plan A is Texas-Notre Dame; Plan B is Texas-Texas Tech; Plan C is UConn-Rutgers.

Seems to me they’ll be going to Plan C.

Comment by Scott 78 09.19.11 @ 12:28 pm

I agree with everyone that it was the right move but I am somewhat disappointed that the Big East didn’t work out. It truly could have been the Beast of the East in Football & Basketball, but it was doomed when PSU wasn’t accepted in the early 80’s. I think we’ll play WVU for a few years, but not being in the same conference will severely water down the Backyard Brawl and it will end soon, just like the PSU game. So we will eventually lose all 3 of our biggest rivals: Pitt, WVU, and ND. And please don’t tell me that they can be replaced with Clemson,GT,etc. It won’t be the same, it will suck losing those rivalries.

Comment by Alex P 09.19.11 @ 1:56 pm

[…] Wake Up And It’s A New Conference: “It is official. Pitt and Syracuse are moving to the ACC […] The exact timeline is unclear. Big East rules call for a 27 month notice period — and the ACC stressed that they would abide the Big East bylaws. This may mean, a lot like what went down in the Big 12 last year that Pitt and Syracuse are going to have to surrender some extra money to the Big East to make it happen by next year.  We shall see on that front.” (Pitt Blather) […]


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