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August 26, 2011

Freshman Speed or Impatience

Filed under: Football,Players — Chas @ 1:05 pm

Kids today. Harumph. Get off my lawn!. Always in a hurry.

“I am ready to get the ball in my hands and have smoke behind me,” [Corey Davis] said. “When I turn on my jets, it’s just about over with for anybody who is chasing me.

“But I am very humble to say that.”

Pitt’s Malcolm Crockett, another freshman back competing for playing time behind Ray Graham and Zach Brown, speaks with equal conviction.

If Crockett is forced to take a redshirt this season, coaches might as well ask him to wear a straitjacket. Coach Todd Graham wants to strain and train his players, but Crockett has no intention of allowing anyone to restrain him.

“When I came here, I had a mindset not to redshirt,” he said. “My mindset was to learn quick, don’t play like a freshman, play like I have been here for a couple years.”

Both will likely see action. The article already indicates that Davis is competing for kick return duties.

You don’t want to dampen their enthusiasm, but they remind me of this conversation.

Crash: You gotta play this game with fear and arrogance.

Ebby: Right. Fear and ignorance.

Competing for punt return duties is another freshman with speed. Ronald Jones.

“Even though he was a quarterback, when I watched his film, his foot speed, change of direction, his quickness — all the things you look for in a slot receiver, they were evident,” said Pitt receivers coach Mike Norvell.

“He was overlooked because of his size, I’m sure, but, boy, we really liked what we saw and then we did some research and found out he played receiver as a sophomore, so he had experience.

“When I watched his highlight film, that burst and change of direction, boy, it got me excited. And in the two weeks since he’s been here, he’s just been really, really impressive in everything he’s done.”

Norvell said Jones has been a game-breaker in scrimmages and live team drills and has worked hard to improve his route-running and learn the finer points of being a receiver.

Graham said he does not like to make comparisons between players, particularly when it involves a freshman, but he couldn’t help it with Jones, who he said reminds him of Tulsa star Damaris Johnson, who holds the NCAA all-time records for all-purpose yards (7,796) and career kickoff return yardage (3,417) despite being 5-8, 170 . Graham coached Johnson at Tulsa.

Jones is a small kid, but in the new offensive system, his height isn’t considered a big deal. He’s also connected to the Pittsburgh Pirates’ Andrew McCutchen via the same home town and McCutchen’s father is Jones’ pastor and coach for high school football and basketball.





Hey, let the best kids play regardless of class. It is also good to that others are being considered for return duties the Ray Graham.

It is also great to see that TG is keeping things close to the vest. Under the previous coach he was an open book about what they were going to run, even saying what their favorite play was and that it was thier identity.

Comment by Jeff in CPa 08.26.11 @ 1:38 pm

I said it way back during the winter recruiting season that a half a dozen of the first year players that Graham was going to be bringing in would see the field at some point this season. From the looks of it that is going to prove itself out and then some. Great finds getting Zach Brown and after the OSU debacle blew up Price (whatever his first name is today) was a bonus too. I really feel we are going to see a very entertaining football team this season with a lot of new schemes and new faces to execute them. I just hope that we can stay healthy which could be a real issue at certain positions like at the O line. If we can avoid the injury bug, I feel we have every right to believe Pitt can accomplish big things this year.

Comment by Dr. Tom 08.26.11 @ 1:39 pm

My favorite line from among the FB and BB student-athletes:

“I want to get a chance to showcase my skills.”

Comment by BigGuy 08.26.11 @ 1:49 pm

BigGuy, that is usually followed by a rant about “deserving respect”. Both of which need to be earned on the field/court.

Comment by Pitt it IS 08.26.11 @ 1:53 pm

I am without question the most intelligent blogger on this site … and am very humble to write this.

Comment by wbb 08.26.11 @ 2:16 pm

Aren’t you just a commenter, your not posting blog entries?

Comment by BnG 08.26.11 @ 3:00 pm

ESPN Miami suspends 13 players

Comment by FRANKCAN 08.26.11 @ 3:09 pm

Well, if smoke does indeed come out of Crockett’s ass, it ain’t bragging. Hopefully, the Octane will walk the talk.

Comment by TX Panther 08.26.11 @ 3:09 pm

Comment by Dan35 08.26.11 @ 4:41 pm

Absolute thank you Dan35, you are correct, must read for all the Pitt posters and fans.

Guy is genuine, been speed his whole life.

I like his wifes comment about his driving, “some people like to drive with him, if thats your kinda thing” LMAO!

Comment by Dan 08.26.11 @ 4:57 pm

Jeff – Agree about keeping Graham at RB as much as possible.

However I do think there is a fine line between “best player” and “best player to have out there”.

There are going to be some growing pains with both the offense and defense – it is inevitable IMO. The staff has to do whatever it can to minimize mistakes – we are going to have missed assignments and turnovers on offense; we’ll give up some big plays on defense. A reasonable ‘risk analysis’ has to be performed with true freshman.

That said – if a true freshman clearly gives us a big advantage over the incumbent then he should be played… but not just because he may excel in just one criteria, such as speed. Hell, for the RBs and WRs alone blocking has to be a big part of thier game and that’s where true freshmen usually have problems.

Graham wants this team to be fast and quick. There are faster and quicker WRs than Shanahan and Street but I wouldn’t sit them down on that issue alone.

Rotating new kids into the play is fine for me as long as we still have the right blend of talent and experience in the two (or in some cases such as WR three) deep. I’m excited to see these new faces and anxious to see how they perform, but the bread and butter of this team are the returning starters.

Wbb – you are correct in all but the humble part.

Comment by Reed 08.27.11 @ 8:51 am

^^^ As to my above comment.

I don’t mean “minimize mistakes” like we have seen in the recent past where it cripples the team, but that the staff has to take a reasonable approach to thier personnel decisions based on risk/reward for the situation at hand.

Comment by Reed 08.27.11 @ 8:56 am

UCONN will be formidable:

link to nydailynews.com

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 11:49 am

But then again it is refreshing that while Wanny’s view of risk reward was “mimimize mistakes” aka “don’t take chances”, Graham’s view is “maximize impact” aka “dictate”.

Comment by Kenny 08.27.11 @ 12:00 pm

Wbb

You are a legend in your own shallow mind

Comment by Mac 08.27.11 @ 12:06 pm

Mac, then I made my point!

Comment by wbb 08.27.11 @ 12:16 pm

Steve, you sound like BE basketball is something to look forward to and get excited about. Next you are going to tell me that you go to the Pitt – Rutgers FB and BB games when they play in NJ along with the Seton Hall BB games. You’re not reading this blog. Playing down south in the SEC trumps all BE basketball games and trumps rivalries that have been established over the years.
(Disclaimer: because of past comments regarding similar posts, I have to state that I am being facetious.)

Comment by BigGuy 08.27.11 @ 12:20 pm

Regarding tailgating at the noon kickoff games, could somebody tell me about the post-game restrictions? (i.e., how long do they allow tailgating; do they close the lots an hour after, etc.)?

Comment by wally 08.27.11 @ 12:23 pm

wally, I believe it depends if there is a Pirates game at PNC at 7 p.m. .. which means you have to get out by a certain time. Otherwise, unless there is some show at the new ampitheater which may restirct certain lots, I woud imagine that there would be some leniency

Comment by wbb 08.27.11 @ 12:33 pm

Of course, Big! Hope all’s well and you’re battening your hatches.

And, have you heard, Pitt’s a basketball school?

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 12:34 pm

Steve, as you are probably aware where you are located, right now there is no wind or rain. When Irene arrives, I am not sure if she is going to be a dud, or if I am feeling like the guy who jumped off the Empire State Building and who said on his way down, “Fiftieth Floor and all is well.”

Comment by BigGuy 08.27.11 @ 1:02 pm

Big, across the street is a big tree half of which broke off and landed on my lawn during a tornado that (actually) hit Metuchen 15 or so years ago.

It has grown back bearing a scarlet “R” which faces my house.

Stay tuned.

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 1:20 pm

Best of luck to Pitt fans and everyone in the path of Irene. Hurricanes are no fun as those of us who live in the Gulf states fully know. I hope everyone escapes unharmed and with minimal damage to their properties.

This one missed us, but we haven’t even hit the peak of hurricane season yet. It won’t be over soon enough for me. By that time, we’ll be starting a new basketball season and we’ll have a good idea of how High Octane football is working out.

Stay safe!

Comment by TampaT 08.27.11 @ 2:10 pm

Thanks, TampaT

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 2:40 pm

You hate to see any part of the country get hit by these storms. But let’s all hope the Gulf of Mexico stays hurricane free. We don’t need all that toxic mess being stirred up and then dumped further north by the accompanying rainstorms.

Everyone stay safe.

Comment by melvinbennett 08.27.11 @ 4:51 pm

I don’t know if anyone else has seen this, but Pitt is apparently being discussed as a potential member of the Big 12 during their conference call today, according to Pete Thamel of the New York Times.

link to thequad.blogs.nytimes.com

Comment by Greg 08.27.11 @ 6:37 pm

That info is also on cardic hill maybe member of big 12 they have talked abought PITT.

Comment by FRANKCAN 08.27.11 @ 6:45 pm

Great info, Greg. Thanks.

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 7:06 pm

Good link greg. Who says the Big 12 stops at 10? What if they go after Lville, Pitt, and WVU after TA&M goes?

Comment by HbgFrank 08.27.11 @ 7:31 pm

This story is getting no press in the East with Irene on full press, but Texas A&M is officially set to leave the Big 12. Pete Thamel writes that the Big 12 expansion committee is looking at Pitt.
link to thequad.blogs.nytimes.com

Comment by TonyinHouston 08.27.11 @ 8:26 pm

Pitt should be on any conference’s radar. The school deserves it.

HAIL TO PITT!

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 8:32 pm

If SEC was ever looking at us they will look harder now nothing make you wanted more than when some one else wants you and that some one is your rival

Comment by FRANKCAN 08.27.11 @ 8:34 pm

On the way out for dinner, drinks and indulgence.

CHECK OUT THIS !! ON ORANGEBLOODS.COM

link to texas.rivals.com

They are reporting if Notre Dame enters the Big 12, PITT could be added along with Notre Dame.
Wowza.

Makes sense they hired a coach from Texas with Texas connections if we’re planning to enter the Big 12 and compete against Texas, TT, Oklahoma and the others.

Comment by melvinbennett 08.27.11 @ 8:45 pm

If you have been reading these posts you will remmber i ask you all to read MR SEC .COM yesterday on that site it said pitt was one of 3 schools that could go to SEC now they say big 12 is looking at us that should get the SEC attention if they are really intreasted in us not saying i want to go . just saying that i have been saying that they are bouth looking at us and i have been saying it for days and you all have not given it a second thought except Dan may be there is something to this.

Comment by FRANKCAN 08.27.11 @ 8:47 pm

The Incline survived Irene in Wilm., NC. Thought a hurricane would be a little more “high octane”, I guess boring is good. It was a Cat 2 as it went by, anything higher and I’d leave knowing what I know now. Impressive wind and rain here, lots of trees down, probably not a lot to fear if you’re in the NE, unless you live on the beach.

As for Pitt and the BigXII-2, I wouldn’t be opposed to it if Notre Dame went too. Doubt that’ll ever happen.

Comment by The Incline 08.27.11 @ 8:55 pm

Whatever, FRANK. The key thing is we’re in play, as well we should.

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 8:57 pm

Incline, great news.

What I can’t understand is that Irene is sleepwalking N at around 12 MPH.

Math 180 tells me it’ll reach Metuchen at around kickoff next Saturday. Where am I going wrong?

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 9:04 pm

Yes we should be in play what is it 6 times national champs co champs of big east last year good tv market great BB school great academics play in a new stadium that would be full if we were playing say texas or oklahoma just like it is when we play ND. a great football history we have had the great players. we should be in play as steve says PITT is it .

Comment by FRANKCAN 08.27.11 @ 9:17 pm

Steve if Pitt goes into the Big 12 (where it seems that everyone wants it to bolt) I can understand that you will get out of helping to organize those events when Pitt comes to Jersey to play FB and BB. (Hey, I’m kidding. I know you enjoy doing it.) But for the rest of us in Jersey, what do we gain? No BE basketball. No games to watch nearby. A loss of a WVU BB game every year? I get a sense that the majority of the board believes that any conference is better than the BE. I like the BE and will be very disappointed if Pitt should leave.

Comment by BigGuy 08.27.11 @ 9:48 pm

BTW, if anyone thinks that ND will join the Big 12, they may want to check what is in that stuff that they are inhaling.

Comment by BigGuy 08.27.11 @ 9:51 pm

Big, I’d rather watch Pitt play FB on TV Saturday against a serious opponent than in person on a Thursday night in, say, Storrs (a 2 hour drive).

And I’d make the 5 hour drive to the ‘burgh in a heartbeat to watch our Panthers play a serious opponent.

Comment by steve 08.27.11 @ 10:00 pm

ND won’t join, just saying if they would it would be an option I’d be more inclined (no pun) to take.

Steve, that storm seemed to last forever. I have no idea what day it is.

Comment by The Incline 08.27.11 @ 10:38 pm

Incline, Irene crawled thru joisey earlier this morning.

Biggest problem was finding a pooping spot for Buddy Da Dog.

Phew.

Comment by steve 08.28.11 @ 7:57 am

Hail To PITT!

Comment by TampaT 09.07.11 @ 12:26 pm

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