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August 10, 2011

Training Camp Day Two

Filed under: Coaches,Football,Media,Players — Reed @ 9:23 am

Sorry for the lack of writing but family circumstances are taking up almost all my time.  When I can I’ll try to get something out every few days…

In addressing of the more glaring weaknesses of the 2011 PITT squad Zeise of the P-G interviews Tony Gibson regarding the stable of cornerbacks we have.  The coach is happy with K’Wuan Williams, Antwuan Reed and, perhaps surprisingly, Buddy Jackson…

He said Jackson has made the most improvement, but that is mostly because he took most of the snaps in the spring while Reed recovered from a concussion.

Gibson said. “I think, looking back, the fact that Antwuan was out in the spring is the best thing that happened for us, because it gave Buddy a real opportunity to take all of the reps and to gain some confidence and really get himself to the point where he is ready to play.  “We know what Antwuan can do, there is plenty of film on him, but Buddy needed to have a spring like he did to really get on his way.”   And from Jackson himself we hear a pretty standard response:  “This is my redshirt senior year, this is it. I’m going to take it all in, be coachable and try to compete every single day.”

Well, his laughing in the Head Coach’s face on the sideline when getting yelled at for blowing a play may lead to this next quote…

Gibson said he had heard — and read — a lot about Jackson’s work-ethic and toughness issues. He also said did not know what to expect from Jackson but has been pleasantly surprised and does not expect that to change.

Good if it holds true, but a two of three CBs being Jackson and Reed doesn’t necessarily project a confident crew.  Newcomers Pitts and Carrington will push for playing time and probably end up in the two deep at least.

Zeise has also written a good in-depth piece on the first two days of camp in his Redshirt Diary and there really isn’t much to add to it.  He addresses almost every position set and does confirm a few things that we’ve talked about over the off season though.

Especially of interest to me is the battle for the Spur position:

As for the linebackers, the outside linebacker (or Spur) has been Greg Williams backed up by Todd Thomas and that seems to be where both will end up by the time the season rolls around. Williams needs to get into shape and when I say that, I don’t mean he is out of shape as in, he didn’t work out or he was lazy over the summer. It is just that he did not participate in the spring so he is still trying to get used to the pace of practice and speed of everything. But he looks like he will be able to thrive in this system, just from what I’ve seen the past two days at the two full practices I’ve observed.

I expect Todd Thomas to be the starter there at some point during the season, or at least get a substantial amount of playing time.  Each year we read about Williams and, save a few dramatic plays, he seems to be a bit disappointing.

Sunseri is set at QB1 and if there is competition it will be for the backup position, and Zeise almost exactly echoes our thoughts on here from before on this subject:

Mark Myers and Anthony Gonzalez are fighting for that second spot and right now Myers has the edge because Gonzalez is suspended for the first two games. But I will say this – the more Gonzalez works, the more I watch him, the more I think he could actually be a quarterback in this system. He still doesn’t throw as well or as consistently as he needs to, but we are seeing some better throws from him and it seems like he has worked on his arm strength. Myers is a pure quarterback who can throw the ball extremely well – but again, in this system, they’d like a guy who can run as well, which is what Gonzalez brings to the table.

This coaching staff really liked what Gonzalez did in the spring and truly wants at least a serviceable run & passes QB for this offense.  But again, as I stated before if I had my druthers I’d want to keep a strong passing game in there if possible.

Not surprisingly Dan Mason has to have a miracle happen to get back to playing in games this season.  Zeise is the first to mention the possibility of Mason not ever playing again and that was tough to hear.  The Trib-Review devotes a full article to Mason’s circumstances and goes more in-depth in the issue.

As critical as I have been with our previous coach on certain issues, even I wouldn’t lay the blame for this on Wannstedt’s shoulders, I think he goes too far:

Actually, the injury wouldn’t have occurred in that game if former Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt had followed through on his threat not to use Mason. Eleven days earlier, Mason was demoted from the first team for being in a car with former Pitt running back Jason Douglas, who was arrested on DUI and aggravated assault charges after hitting a pedestrian on the South Side.  Mason didn’t start the game, but he entered before halftime. He was injured while helping make a stop on third-and-9, forcing a punt.

Finally Graham Training Camp Insider has a nice first day post-practice speech from the HC to the players.  On notable thing is he stresses that we have “a mature team” which is nice to hear.  He is a lot less over the top with his sayings in this also.  Maybe all the labels for everything are just for us fans and he’s talking to the players as young adults.





I agree on Greg Williams. Every year they talk about him being a breakout player and every year he makes 1 or 2 great plays then spends the rest of the season missing tackles and blowing coverage. I have little confidence in him til I see him halfway through the season still making plays.

Comment by BnG 08.10.11 @ 9:28 am

The weakness of the D as far as talent and depth are the linebackers (counting the Panther position as a lineman). There is a very good possibility that a freshman sees playing time. Especially Juan Price.
Don’t expect Trey Anderson to be just a no name walk on his entire time at Pitt. He is very athletic and can throw better than AG. He just needs to beef up.

Comment by notrocketscience 08.10.11 @ 10:15 am

I know it’s early & camp is only 2 days old with no pads – but according to all the reports/articles , this is exactly the same lineup as last year! I can’t belive Shayne Hale or T.J. Clemmings can’t crack the lineup. Any mention of Antuan Reed scares me & I’m not exactly excited about the starting D-line. Does any one have any info. on a walk -on from last year – fullback Adam Lazenga of Bethel Park ?

Comment by ROCKY20 08.10.11 @ 10:29 am

I don’t recall the defense being a complete bust last year except the WVU game. They had some breakdowns but overall I thought played well.

Heck, even in the Miami game when the offense went 3 and out the entire 1st half, the defense bent but didn’t break. In fact, it was only 17-3 early in the 4th and the defense forced a punt deep in Miam territory .. but Saddler fumbled at midfield which deflate everybody (including me.)

No doubt that LBs and CBs need to improve but they are year older and wiser with more depth. I’m not ready to concede anything based on our defense.

Comment by wbb 08.10.11 @ 10:55 am

I should have mentioned the inability to stop UConn’s Todman was also disappointing .. but remember that 14 pts were given up by a KO return followed immediately by a Ray Graham fumble on UConn’s 10 yd line.

Comment by wbb 08.10.11 @ 11:00 am

Agree wit youse wbb — d was not the problem last year…I think we ended up well into the top 20 on total d? Wannyball offense was so ponderous/predictable that it constantly put the pressure on defense to save the day, which can break down even very talented teams. I see big things for them this year…especially with Williams at cb and that d-line.

Comment by Matt N. 08.10.11 @ 11:45 am

I believe our defense finished last year ranked No. 08 in total D. It was our sputtering offense that killed us.

Comment by HbgFrank 08.10.11 @ 12:24 pm

HbgFrank is correct:

link to web1.ncaa.org

Comment by Reed 08.10.11 @ 12:43 pm

Yeah but stats lie…. kent st has a top 10 defense ? and Cuse’s D was better then Pitts ?

Comment by Snala The Panther 08.10.11 @ 12:52 pm

I’m as cynical as anyone, But I’m starting to think that Coach actually cares more about the players than himself.

This is refreshing.

Comment by steve 08.10.11 @ 1:47 pm

Sure, stats lie (up to a point) and I’m willing to bet that they don’t finish in the Top 10 this year, not because they aren’t as good as last year, but because they do not have the benefit of a ball-control offense. (Remember, even though the goal is to run 80 offensive plays per game, the other criterion is to run them less than 15 seconds apart.)

The point is that by no means is this defense void of talent, and in fact, I’m willing to bet this is the best defensive talebt that Graham has ever had as HC.

Comment by wbb 08.10.11 @ 2:10 pm

I agree wbb Graham has a defense but I think the offense will score more points. This should translate into a few more wins.

Comment by Anton 08.10.11 @ 3:17 pm

win or lose, succeed or fail, this Pitt team is going to be intersting to watch.

Comment by BnG 08.10.11 @ 4:24 pm

Yes, the offense will score more but the defense will also give up more. Both are a function of relative length of time each unit will spend on the field. The key factor will be, IMHO, the differential between points scored vs points allowed. The bigger the spread the better the W vs L result.

Comment by pitt1972 08.10.11 @ 6:49 pm

The differential in points scored vs. points allowed determines who wins and who loses….. sorry pitt1972…just couldn’t help myself.

Comment by The Turk 08.10.11 @ 7:41 pm

turk–thanks for reminding me I was only stating the obvious. Humility is a good thing. I think what I was actually trying to say was that the average per game scoring differential measured over the course of the entire season would be the key. If the points scored per game vs points allowed changes from last years 26.3-19.0 to 36-29 then there probably won’t be any improvement in Ws vs Ls. On the other hand if it goes to 45-27 then a better Ws vs Ls result will be more likely.

Comment by pitt1972 08.11.11 @ 9:40 am

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