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June 17, 2011

First off, I want to thank Chas for the opportunity to lower the credibility of his blog by allowing us to post here. My name’s Pat, I’m one of the writers over at The Incline, a relatively new blog covering all the teams in the Burgh, even the Pirates! Stop on over and say hi. It truly is an honor to post here on Pitt Blather, especially since we only started our blog about two months ago.

But enough with the infomercial and ass kissing, lets get back to Pitt and PSU renewing their series. A few days have passed since the announcement, and I don’t know about you guys, but I’m still pretty pumped. The media has been all over the story, and new Pitt head coach Tom Bradley shared a few thoughts on the rivalry. Wait, what? He isn’t our coach? Has someone told WTAE? Anyway, his thoughts:

“People want us in Philadelphia and New York and over here and over there, and it’s a push-pull for (athletic director Tim Curley), and that’s obviously a tough job.”

Easy there, Tommy boy. Those Nitters think pretty highly of themselves, don’t they? Why would they schedule Pitt, a longtime rival in the same state, when they could play Temple in Philly? It must be really hard being so popular.

And this is what drives me nuts about Penn State fans. They love constantly reminding you of their great team, school, and coach. Unfortunately, their team loses big games and can’t beat Iowa, the school is in a cow pasture, and the coach, well he’s old. Most fans and writers assumed that Paterno was hands-off during the negotiations, considering the games are 5 years away, and he’s like really old. But that hasn’t stopped some Penn State fans/bloggers from grasping at straws to protect their coach and question the media’s coverage:

“By all accounts, Paterno has been as active in the last few months as he’s been in a long time. He’s been walking up to miles per day, and he’s been Skyping with high school recruits. There’s little reason to believe he holds any more or less power than he has at any point in the last decade while the series has been on hold.”

Miles a day. Miles!

“That leaves the Pittsburgh media in a no-win situation. They can’t argue, at least logically, that Tim Curley and Penn State the athletic department overpowered Paterno to make the series happen, nor can they argue Paterno has been standing in the way now that the series has been announced under his watch. Of course, that won’t stop them from trying, but their credibility is gone.”

Ok, I’ll try and logically argue that Curley overpowered Paterno (although I don’t know how many people are saying the AD “overpowered” him). The conversation goes like this:

Tim: Joe do you plan on coaching until 2016?

Joe: Probably not.

Tim: Ok, we’re going to play Pitt then.

Joe: Have you seen my glasses?

I’d say that’s both logical and probable.

As promised, a few basketball notes to round things out.

Tough times for NBA prospects trying to prove their readiness could be good news for Gil Brown, Brad Wannamaker, and Gary McGhee. With the NBA lockout looming, summer camps and leagues have been cancelled, forcing teams to focus on players who need less development. Jay Bilas is high on Wannamaker:

“I like Brad Wanamaker a lot,” Bilas said. “He does everything. He doesn’t do anything great, but he does most everything well. I think he can make a roster.”

The consensus seems to be Wannamaker and Brown could go somewhere in the 2nd round, while McGhee will likely be an undrafted free agent.

As for the new crop of recruits starting their careers at Pitt, the summer leagues are vital to their development. Provided all recruits qualify academically, they will start summer classes on Monday and join their new teammates at the Pittsburgh Basketball Club Pro-Am at the Sportsplex in Green Tree. Coach Dixon doesn’t anticipate any issues:

“We think everything is fine,” Dixon said. “We don’t anticipate any problems.”

Was that worth quoting? Probably not.

If there’s an NBA lockout the summer league could see a boost in talent. That talent could include Dejuan Blair, Aaron Gray, and Sam Young, and should be make for some entertaining and fan friendly games. If you have the time, head down to Green Tree. There is no price for admission or parking at the Sportsplex. Hooray for NCAA regulations!

Again, thanks for reading, I look forward to babysitting you Blatherites (Blatherarians? Blatherfolk?) while Chas is on vacation.






Since Penn St doesnt want to play more than 2 games Pitt should offer Ohio State a long term series!!!!! 1988 Pitt 46 Ohio St 10 F

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Comment by wbb 06.18.11 @ 6:49 pm

Oh, in answer to a fellow poster the other day, as people were recalling where they drank, and especially since I admitted to having left some brain cells at PSU, when I was at Pitt 83′-87′, the main places were at that time…

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I’ve ever seen, even to this day!

People from my era, there was another one, across the street from Zeldas, nevermind, got it…

The Santucary!!! LOL

One story, only time I ever put my forearm under someones chin. No, freely admit, I am no “tough guy”, “bad ass” or fighter.

Bouncer at Zeldas took my fake I.D.. My buddy had been working forever to get me one. Finally, we go to the towers, guy has his room set up with a screen and everything!! Very sophisticated for that time!!! LMAO

Anyhow, still standing outside stewing, bouncer goes to the can, luckily no other bouncer came to stand. I went down to the restroom if you want to call it that and confronted him. Again, no bad ass by any means, but, I am a pretty big guy, and I don’t remember him as being some monster or anything you see today.

True story, I go nuts, or should I say, I acted nuts with wild eyes and all, I remember this because I was completely sober.

The guy gives me my id back, and says, people usually give me 10 bucks to give em back you didn’t have to be a dick!!! LOL

I gave him 10 bucks anyhow walking out the door!!!
Figured I might need him some day.

Next time I saw him, I apologized, just another student trying to get by.

I haven’t thought about that for years, or the restrooms in some of those places with the writing on all of the walls.

Ah…..Great times!!!

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Comment by Scholarships For African Americans 06.19.11 @ 4:14 am

The rivalry will never be the same because much less is at stake. In the seventies and eighties when both were in the top ten. Bowl games, even championships were on the line.

However the game should be played every year for two reasons, bragging rights and the economic impact on the City of Pittsburgh and the State of PA. Both schools are subsidized by state taxes. If the economic impact is 12 Million, 7% goes to the state in sales tax. State income tax and local taxes are increased as well as the benefits to hotels restaurants state stores, vendors etc. All of this should benefit PA and Pittsburgh, and our bone headed Governor and Legislators should mandate it, since we collectively foot the bill for these universities. Temple should be included as well. Look what Phillie fans brought to the Burgh this year. State taxes built the stadiums as well.

Comment by gc 06.19.11 @ 9:29 am

While reading all of these posts, I’d forgotten how much I love to hate Penn State! It feels so good to spout that old familiar phrase, “Penn State Sucks”. In response I hear “Shit on Pitt”! Welcome back you PSU football brethren. 5 years out and we’re already at each other’s throats. I appreciate having PSU back again in my football thoughts, negative as they are. Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.19.11 @ 9:50 am

I’m sorry Nitters. You win. Let’s not try to find a way to play each other each year or possibly 6 years out of 10 (3 home vs. 3 away). You consider Nebraska your rival now. You need the money to support your athletic programs. You think of Pitt as the inferior program. But, I think you need us more than we need you at this point. You need us for a true rival. OSU lives to beat Michigan each year. All other schools are their number 2. Mighty arrogant to think of yourselves as every Midwestern school’s #2. We need you because we value history and tradition and know this would be a good thing for the region, the fans, the alumni, and for the spirit of college football, but I guess this matters not to you? And, Pitt doesn’t ask Navy for a disrespectful 2 for 1 deal. And, we don’t go nearly 20 years without playing our rivals due to a petty grudge. So, go ahead and have fun losing to the Huskers and Buckeyes each year and seeing that sea of red in your stadium and their fans thinking of this rivalry as an afterthought.

Comment by TX Panther 06.19.11 @ 3:04 pm

(Expletive laden rant warning)

How we cut all this talking out for now, and Pitt just goes out their and whoops the shit out of them in ’16-’17.

Seriously, I could care less about all of this political/revenue talk.

Just play the games, kick the fuck out of them, and shut their fans up. That’s what it’s all about!

Then the nitters can talk about their damn revenue, nationwide popularity, etc etc all they fucking want!

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Comment by Jineefradia 06.20.11 @ 12:50 am

I love the line coming from the State Penn that they can’t commit to a long term agreement because they have to consider their alumni across the US and play a national schedule so their alumni can see them…that is hilarious since their whole non-conference schedule year in and year out is played at home…

Comment by Leaseman 06.20.11 @ 2:45 pm

Let’s get something straight: Penn State/Pitt has been played at Pitt about 2/3rds of the time, so a 2 – 1 deal would only even it out.

If we’re talking about equity and schools being on equal footing, then it’s the right thing to do.

Comment by misd 06.20.11 @ 7:25 pm

I love when the Nit Wits enter the discussion. You can always count on a few points:

1.) Within about 2 minutes of arguing Pitt/State Penn, the nit wit will start quoting attendance figures… Attendance is the key statistic to any true nit witter. Any time a Pitt fan has the edge in an argument you can expect to hear “ya but we have 106,000 at every game so nya nya nya nya nya”

2.) You can never cite 2000 to 2004 in any arguments. Those seasons do not exist to nit wits. Some black hole swalled the universe and spit it back out in 2005 therefore all of those statistics have been wiped from the ncaa record book.

3.) Anything Pitt accomplished prior to 1970 does not count. Again, those seasons do not exist to nit wits.

4.) The football team arrests are just a case of college kids being kids…You know having a few drinks underage…the rapes, stabbings, beatings, and robberies do not count.

I hope the nit witters stay aboard the blog for the next 5 years…isnt this fun???

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I just don’t get it with Penn State. Doesn’t anyone in State College want to have a rivalry game? Is money all that matters anymore? I mean seriously making this game happen shouldn’t be this difficult. There are Lions alumni in Pittsburgh last time i checked.

Comment by Alex P 06.21.11 @ 9:28 pm

Here are some facts…..

It takes PSU fans to fill up this blog, just like it will take them to fill up your stadium in 2016.

We may have lost some big games, but at least we play in them. On Saturdays, not Thursday nights so someone HAS to watch.

If you guys think Paterno didn’t endorse the Pitt games, you’re on Pluto. Or Heinz Field on a Saturday, both about as empty a place.

The State Penn thing is cute, but didn’t you guys ranks ahead of us in at least one poll.

Comment by Bill 06.22.11 @ 9:16 am

Bill, I’m really tired about this filling up the stadium garbage. Pitt plays in a city, Penn State plays in a cow pasture. Pitt, as well as Georgia Tech, Boston Coll., Miami, Washington, Maryland, TCU, etc. all struggle to fill their stadiums. Fans only go to see city schools play when they are winning big. Your so much better than us for filling your stadium up against Youngstown State and East Stroudsburg. Please. You’ve never won the Big Ten outright just like us and you’re only slightly better than average in your conference. Plus, at least there’s things to do here. PSU football is the ONLY form of entertainment in State College, period.

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