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April 28, 2011

1st Round NFL Draft Open Thread

Filed under: Draft,Football,NFL — Chas @ 4:41 pm

Do Jabaal Sheard or Jon Baldwin make it into the end of the first round tonight? I have no idea. Odds are that if they don’t get picked, then the Big East gets shut out of the first round of the NFL draft.

Plenty of Pitt players could go in the later rounds over the next couple days, so there is incentive to keep watching.

Here’s your handy Pitt player checklist.

Draft starts about 8pm on ESPN or NFL Network.





Chas–not to steal your 1st-round thunder, but I’ll be hosting a NFL Draft CoverItLive over on SportStatistics: link to bit.ly starting at 8pm!!

Comment by merlin 04.28.11 @ 5:10 pm

Both Green and Jones selected in the first 6 picks. This could be good for Baldwin sneaking into the first round

Comment by Greg 04.28.11 @ 8:40 pm

Are all now Chief fans now?

Comment by Andy 04.28.11 @ 11:06 pm

Andy don’t worry. Based on the posters on the comment section this year, Baldwin had a bad attitude and wasn’t that good and it was his fault he didn’t run 100% when Tino was throwing 15 yards behind him .

Comment by iceman2885 04.28.11 @ 11:25 pm

ummm, Baldwin quit on a lot of plays when I was watching

Comment by Chicken Little 04.28.11 @ 11:55 pm

I think Baldwin will be fine with Bowe on the other side. He should be working against #2 CBs.

Comment by Pittastic 04.29.11 @ 6:25 am

To me, Baldwin going so early is an obvious indictment of Tino.

Comment by steve 04.29.11 @ 6:53 am

Ironhead’s kid is a Steeler. While at Pitt Ironhead was an embarrassment off the field but what a battering ram on the field. The best of a great group of running backs, so many that two transferred and starred at WVU.

Comment by gc 04.29.11 @ 7:00 am

“its a shame this kid didnt have a quarterback”
jon gruden on jon baldwin, who also did an interview with him on NFL.com

Tino apologists, what say you?

ps – we really used him well as a “decoy” last year HAHAHA… good riddance wanny… please give me a new qb who actually belongs on the field with 1st round NFL talent!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by DeVanzo 04.29.11 @ 7:28 am

I don’t think anyone here was proclaiming Tino as the next Marino. And I was perplexed when the job seemed to be handed to him without Bostick being given a chance to compete.

Nonetheless, don’t blame Tino because no other QB can beat him out. Remember, Bostick, not Tino, was the 4-star propsect, and even if not given an equal chance last year, he never even came close to appear as a blue-chip prospect. He was slow-footed with a pathetic wind-up, and even with the wind-up, his arm was no stronger than Tino.

And this year, it’s the two redshirt freshmen who were the 4-stars … who apparently cannot beat him out.

Comment by wbb 04.29.11 @ 7:45 am

wbb, Graham wants a sea-change offense and that could only happen with an experienced QB…not necessarily a good QB.

I am not alone in saying I will not be pleased if Tino ultimately gets the job.

Coach: Fit the offense to your strengths.

Comment by steve 04.29.11 @ 7:56 am

steve, I hear you .. I was rooting for Myers because I think he probably has the bigger upside of the the 3 QBs.

I’m just saying … don’t pick on Tino because the coaches prefer him over 3 other QBs who were rated as 4-stars.

These are 19 and 20 year olds who are trying their best .. quit pretending that they are pros (this isn’t Ohio State)

Comment by wbb 04.29.11 @ 8:21 am

Hey guys lets boo TINO until he plays like Stull.Lets show our next recruit how we will treat him.Chas this is sad.

Comment by paul shannon 04.29.11 @ 8:58 am

I wish Baldwin the best, but not sure what Mel Kiper is watching when he says “He has great ball skills”. Yes, he is athletic and can run and jump, but he is not very good at tracking the ball and going up to get it at the high point. He can be a dominant NFL receiver if he works on attacking the ball and running better routes.

Comment by TJ 04.29.11 @ 9:36 am

Baldwin is one of the tallest receivers in the draft and has the best vertical… When on his game, see Notre Dame game at Heinz, Only Fitzy and AB have been comparable for the Panthers. Unfortunately, not too many examples because he had incosistent QB play and wasn’t the same guy without Dorin running wild on the seams.

I think he’ll be just fine in that offense, considering that the safeties are up on the line to stop Charles and Jones, so imagine Baldy in Single coverage against a nickle back his rookie year with no safeties over top… He may put up huge numbers

Comment by Dave G. 04.29.11 @ 10:15 am

I have always believed that Baldwin’s poor season was more of a reflection of himself and not of the QB or OC. Have you people forgotten how he quit on more than a few pass plays last year? …. and at least one of them near the end of the Miami game was a pass thrown by Bostick and not the whipping boy Tino!

Baldwin simply had the case of ‘final year itis’ where he was more focused on his draft status than he was on the team. Note that Marino may have suffered from this .. except back then, his poor ar year was blamed all on drugs!

Comment by wbb 04.29.11 @ 10:18 am

In fact, I just heard on 93.7 The Fan no more than two minutes ago … Ron Cook had heard much talk during the season that Baldwin was not a good teammate this past season having been moaning to his teammates that they were not getting him the ball enough .. while the general thought by many in that lockerroom was that he was not giving a good effort and acticng like a prima donna

Comment by wbb 04.29.11 @ 10:35 am

Based on the year Pitt had, how could anyone possibly blame Baldwin. If he was content losing, decoying, and having every deep ball underthrown, that would have been a more telling sign to me.

The fact that he was upset tells me he expected more out of his teammates, himself, and his coaching staff.

Maybe he could have handled things a little differently, but lets not forget that he’s only 20-21 years old.

Comment by Big Bill 04.29.11 @ 11:46 am

No surprise that the Chiefs grabbed Baldwin. After all, Todd Haley is the K.C. coach. May I remind you Bloggers that Haley’s dad is Dick “Comet” HaleyP, former star of the Pitt Panthers. His mother is the former Carol Neal (a Pitt nursing grad). Todd Haley, I’m certain is up on the Panther football program. He knows Jonathon has skills and I think he will develop those skills in the former “Quipp” whiz. In the meantime, the Steelers did well in snagging Ironwood’s, who is a “football player ” of the finest order. Rev. George of Columbus

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 04.29.11 @ 12:09 pm

Rev Geo, not sure if this had any bearing on the Cheifs’ pick but Charlie Weis just left there as OC … and you may remember that Baldwin’s biggest game may have been that primetime win over Weis’s ND in 09.

Comment by wbb 04.29.11 @ 12:32 pm

Tino’s growing pains did not help, but I am in the camp of those who believe that Baldwin “mailed in” in final year at Pitt. I can think of a few specific plays where he simply quit on the play. One of the nice things about watching a game live is that you can watch the entire field or pick one player to watch on a play. One of my favorite Pitt players was Antonio Bryant. That guy played all out on every play, it did not matter if the pass was coming his way. On running plays, he would fire off the line and hit somebody. I watched Baldwin several times and rarely saw him aggressively block for his team. A new QB did not help, but his own head was the other teams best defense against him.

Comment by HbgFrank 04.29.11 @ 12:39 pm

FWIW, Paul Zeisewas just interviewed on The Fan and agreed with both sides … he said that Baldwin’s attitude was not good but also mentioned that he saw Baldwin get frustrated due to Tino’s inability to lead him on the long balls.

Then he and Ssible discussed a play vs UConn where an interception was caused due to an underthrow and Baldwin just plain stopped and made no attempt to make the tackle even though he was the closest Pitt player to the intercepter.

so there you go!

Comment by wbb 04.29.11 @ 2:37 pm

It’s a good thing for Baldwin that the NFL scouts made their decision based on the 1,490 other plays he participated in and not just the 10 that I was watching his off the ball route running and downfield blocking. Ok, you caught me, really it was 3 or 4 plays.

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