I’ve got theories. I just don’t have answers.
Pitt’s defense has just disappeared, and it defies explanation for this sustained problem. It isn’t like they have played bad defense all season. It’s been the last 2+ weeks, but it hasn’t been fixed over the six games in that time. There have been brief moments. Even, perhaps halves where the defense started to look better. But it just keeps slipping.
It isn’t just better teams and players. There’s just something missing right now.
The sustained problems makes all of the theories weak explanations. They might excuse a game, perhaps 2, but this long a stretch renders them highly unlikely.
Theory 1: Levance Fields has returned.
The return of Levance Fields to the lineup meant the team’s rotation was changed again. Minutes — especially for the guards/small forward — are now very different. Spacing on the court, assignments and just reconnecting with the chemistry has to happen.
Mentally, the players relaxed on defense because with Fields back, order was supposed to be restored. The players were more concerned with getting the offense back up. To do more scoring and running. Not focused on the defense.
Theory 2: The Providence Effect.
Sometimes, for a team that has had to gut out games each time, nothing can be worse than having such an easy time of things on both ends of the court. Pitt just smacked around the Friars before the defense went to hell.
Providence is a horrible defensive team and really not too great on offense if the 3s aren’t falling. Pitt was able to do anything they wanted against Providence and didn’t have to work too hard on defense.
That filled the players with false confidence about what they could do. That they could score at will and sit back more on defense.
Theory 3: Too Much Gambling.
Pitt has continually been out of position on defense. Everyone has been screaming about the fundamentals. Pitt’s defense has been about solid fundamentals. Keeping good position and make a team have to take a contested shot. Nothing fancy. Stay with the man and don’t be leave the man for the ball.
Lately, there’s been a lot of aggressive slapping and poking at the basketball. Trying to get the steal and force the turnover. The problem with that is if you miss or don’t make a play, you go out of position. It means an easy pass or score. That seems to be happening a lot.
Theory 4: Exhaustion.
Physical and mentally, this team might just be worn down.
The physical side is obvious. They have been playing a 7 man rotation for most of the Big East schedule. They are a banged up team with off-season surgeries and physical rehab looming.
Then there’s the mental toll of playing short-handed for half the season. Especially with 3 freshmen and redshirt freshman seeing double-digit minutes. No chance to just feel like they can catch their breath or just plain stop for a minute.
You “school” is a disgrace hoopie. 13-9. Go back to your trailer.
That said, WVU played a good game, and Pitt barely bothered to show up. I guess they heard the reports on the news that they were solidly in the Dance, and we no longer felt desperate like we did in the past few games (Cincy, Cuse). And it’s about time WVU wins a brawl this year. But in the three major sports this year (Football, mens and womens bball), Pitt won 3-2.
But now WVU has an easier path in the BE Tourney. It will be interesting to see which Pitt team shows up at MSG….hopefully the same Pitt team that showed up the past two times we played their this year.
Yes, they were the better team last night, no dispute there. But more talented? Look at the last 5 games. Not even close. This isn’t post-brawl anything – this is reality. 1-4 is not a “superior” team.
Congrats on the national championship. It should be a good game when DickFraud brings the trash up to Heinz Field next year…
Its amazing how the inbreeds show up when they win a total of ONE game in either sport in an entire year against their top rival…unreal.
Yes, pitt has a world class medical school. Just like WVU has a world class biometrics program, directly connected and run with the department of defense, and Federal Bureau of Investigation. What can I say Stu? Apparently the good folks I’ve been talking to from the CIA, FBI, and DOD don’t think we are too much of a disgrace, they do an awful lot of recruiting down there. Both schools have their strong, and weak points. I’m not sure why little Stu would bring academics into a discussion about basketball.
1. Jamie gets the entire team in the video room and shows them the Georgetown game to remind them they can be great once again.
2. We make a highlight package of the 02-03 and 03-04 Panthers and show this team how to play some in your face, smash mouth, down low, grind it out, we’re gonna hit you defense!
Did you hear their chants at the WVU coliseum tonight. (by the way, very uncreative arena name). We heard them over the TV chant one thing “Taser”. Get over yourselves. Fields already said it’s useless and he played a decent game. Shots just didn’t fall. The only other thing that could be heard was muttered hick nonsense.
All that said, props to WVU for showing up. You finally got one under your belt in the past few years. It will most likely be that way for the next few years because gilbert blair and fields at the very least will destroy you.
And just as a last thought. Who wants to place bets that WVU falls flat on their faces, chokes in the first round of the Big East tourney to the likes of Cuse or Nova and finds themselves trying to be repeats as NIT Champions… wouldn’t that be sweet
benji = .138 errors per minute
fields = .139
biggs = .143
wanny = .200
brown = .211
ramon = .259
blair = .318
young = .345
What you can garnish from this information is that Young is essentially makign 2.5X as many errors as either fields or benji. Being a junior and easily being the weakest link on defense is totally unacceptable. Between him and Blair, it is no wonder we’re getting killed on defese – add up all their errors, and essentially one or the other is making an error every 90 seconds that usually ends up costing us 2 points. Considering we’re on offense half the time, thats something like 2 out of every 3 defensive series they’re making an error. Unbelievable.
When 3 of your starters are making the majority of your errors…i have no idea how we win any games at all. I was actually suprised how few errors biggs made on D – its just the 3 he did were so blatantly obvious during the game, they stuck out in my head. He actually played D pretty well.
So what the hell do we do? Keep playing them, as they’re offensive weapons, but pray they stop sucking on defense? We’ve been praying for a long time now, and nothings changed. How the hell do you get their heads in the game? Is there anything Dixon can do from a schematic standpoint to cover up their errors? Cause going to a zone ain’t working either – they just make errors in the zone.
I guess when your starting 4 and 5 suck on defense, you’re kind of fucked. Our guards didn’t even play that bad today (minus Ramon)…
ltl – eat shit. Profanity on an internet site is a lot different that constant profanity on TV where it has been banned by the FTC. There are 4 year old kids sitting in those stands listening to incessant vulgar language. I doubt anyone lets their 4 year old wander the internet freely.
Anyone who’s played organized ball knows that you’re usually far more tired after a tough practice than after a game. Games are the fun part and the less physically demanding part…… especially TV games with all the stops and starts and timeouts. It’s hard to even get winded when there’s a break every 3 minutes.
These kids are used playing AAU tournaments with 2-3 games back-to-back in an afternoon. They’re not tired…..
Practice is the hard part — the part where you should see kids extend themselves and puke out of (I’ve seen plenty of that)exhaustion.
So can we stop this whole “they’re tired and they’re banged up” bullshit? Sure, they’re banged up…….by March you’re supposed to have an injury you’re playing through. Big deal.
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It seems like we could drop as low as a 9 seed with a loss to DePaul…
Who else can blame a ref as much as he does, or be as vulger as he is or complain about the fans like he does.
We should all thank him for NOT HAVING A LIFE, posting as MUCH as he does at all different times of the night. Ask yourself, where would we be without him on this board.
I might take time and actually see how many “posts per minute” we get out of good ole Stu……….
i stopped reading his posts a while back; when i see his name, I just skip to the next one because I know it’s either going to be mindless over-analyzed drivel or a bunch of misplaced anger directed at something the rest of us don’t care about.
I have a theory that their sluggish offense leads to bad defense, and it’s a vicious cycle. I also attribute their struggling offense to a lack of consistent performance inside the paint; i.e., from Blair. He’s playing gun-shy…missing easy layups, and getting routinely blocked/frustrated by opponents. He needs to play more powerfully, and take the pressure off the perimeter shooters.
I still say the only way to win with this team is to play up pace games in the 80’s and use our transition to wear down opponents. Can’t be any worse!
So tired of seeing every Pitt BB Team look like champs in December and get totally worse the rest of the year.
Fortunately, I think having had a decent December 2007, against some fair competition, is what’s going to give Pitt their NCAA ticket this year. Conference wins alone wouldn’t have done it.
You want to talk about being a more talented team? Get a clue. There’s no QUESTION Pitt is more talented…Young, Benji, Gil, Blair and Fields are more athletic than anyone on West Virginia. I doubt Huggy or Belein (who recruited most of them) would disagree. I’m also not sure what the point of discussing talent is. Syracuse has more talent than all but about five teams in the country. Paul Harris, Donte’ Green and Jonny Flynn are all absurd ballers, and Devendorf is very very good. And we put an 18-2 run on them in crunch time in their building. Talent means very little. One thing I will readily concede is that WVU is often very well coached. Bill Raftery was basically drooling at all the back-cuts and passing, and as usual WVU is up there in assist/turnover ratio in the conference, and I believe leading the league in assists. They run somewhat gimmicky offenses, and definitely did so with Gansey, Herber and Co., and they run them very very well. Often, those teams give certain teams fits. WVU over UCLA two years ago comes to mind, when UCLA was a Final Four team. Are they BETTER than the teams they beat? Well…sort of. I mean, really, winning is all that matters. So if WVU and Pitt are 1-1 against each other, and both wins were at home for the teams, I’d say that’s a good indication that they’re fairly close. I think Pitt has a more well-rounded team and a better chance to go deep in the tournament, but fortunes change quickly in March. Is Joe Alexander a really really good player? Yes. Is he a 30-point per night player? No. He’s a very good shooter on a hot streak, and I’m very impressed with the way he played. Him hitting a turn-around 19 footer with a defender draped on him is exceptional. But lets all be honest…if he could do that every night, he’d be getting the same media coverage as Michael Beasley. Its been his night more than once this year, a good indication that he’s a good player. But the OPEN shots are the fault of defensive breakdowns as much as good offensive sets. The Ruoff triple from the top of the key when Biggs and Benji both came halfway out to guard him and then LEFT was a good indication of the fact that at least those two guys were clueless about implementing the zone scheme we had in place. Also, why they didn’t know Ruoff would shoot an open three is questionable.
Let us also stop pretending Stuart is the first person to point out the classless behavior of WVU fans. When I went to Pitt’s first game @ Louisville on ESPN’s Thursday Night Football, I was nervous about heading into hostile territory with my Pitt gear. Instead, we got invited to tailgates, handed beers, and pressed into earnest discussions about what our offense might do against them, who could get to Brohm (no one) and our take on the upcoming conference slate for both teams. I was also asked by more than one Louisville fan “Hey, are West Virginia fans always such assholes?” in regard to a trip they’d taken to Morgantown for a game. The jokes about West Virginia trailor-dwelling, sister-mating hillbillies are definitely getting very old. But the complaints about the uncivilized, incoherent, belligerent fans are dead on. There’s a difference between supporting your team and demeaning humanity. That line gets crossed more often by WVU fans. I would still venture to speculate that the line is only crossed by some small percentage of fans…but its a significantly higher percentage than at other places, and that’s the problem. As much as I dislike WVU, I’ll give you this: Puskar Stadium rocking as 50,000 fans scream in unison “Let’s GOOOOOOOOOO Mountaineers” creates a great homefield atmosphere for your team. Slashing tires in the parking lot of PA license plates, throwing things at Pitt fans, starting profanity-laced chants, and basking in the reputation of being a DANGEROUS place to play from a safety standpoint is ridiculous. For the record, I also think its ridiculous that the Pitt fans yell “SUCKS” after every opposing player is introduced. I think its amazingly classless that almost every crowd in the country yells “YOU SUCK” after the “HEY” in Rock and Roll Part 2 (The “Hey” Song). There’s a lot of blame to go around, but I think that WVU fans deserve a healthy dose.
As for Stuart, I have to agree with him: There’s a big difference between swearing on a chat board and starting a fuck you chant on national tv. One speaks to the way an individual behaves in a social situation among friends when he is cutting loose, the other is how someone behaves when everyone is watching and they’re acting as a representative of their university (and in this case, their state, since most people know almost nothing about WV other than the school). Stuart’s analysis of Pitt games, players, coaches and programs is often opinionated and occasionally harsh, but its ALWAYS thoughtful and whether you agree with it or not, he gives you his reasoning. Its why he’s one of my favorite posters.
Finally, now that we don’t have to play you for at least a week, good luck Hoopies. I hope that you don’t blow your NCAA bid, because I want as many BE teams in there as possible. I don’t like your team, and I love to see you lose, but not against non-con opponents…not when representing our league. Our league gets shit on too much by the national media, we all need to stick together. (And now that we basically toasted the Cuse’s chances for a bid, SOMEONE has to step up.)
Watching teams like Kansas and Duke play you’ll note the difference is spacing. They space the floor well. Us? Not so much. We run into each other on cuts and often have two men working to the same point on the floor. Total confusion.
Of course, you need to have consistent outside shooters for said spacing to work — and we don’t.
So the long and short of it, we have an undersized team that cannot shoot consistently from the perimeter and has difficulty finishing inside. How is that supposed to garner victories?
Some of the things Sam Young does rub me the wrong way, but if it were not for him, I truly believe we would be a .500 team this year. He’s having a heck of year and he’s carrying the team.
The offense is quite stagnant. There is not enough ball movement and that high pick does little in the way of creating opportunities. Dixon needs to revisit that and, of course, figure out how to get this team to play some sort of defense.
Young, in particular, should be embarrassed by his D.
Of every away game I’ve watched on TV, I’ve never been able to hear any chants about that incident. Fields has said in interviews that he gets heckled everywhere he goes, but nobody was as inhumane as WVU. That was just plain ignorant. Sure, you can make fun of him for it, but to make it your main chant on defense…that’s low. And I didn’t think it was possible for WVU fans to get any lower than how they acted before and after 13-9!
Hell, even Penn State fans are more civil than WVU (and we have a worse rivalry with PSU!!) I can hate PSU and still have a civil football or basketball conversation with a PSU fan or student. That is impossible with WVU. The minute I try to talk about football, I get the “Fraudriguez blew that game on purpose…Pitt sucks!” Thanks, WVU….very intelligent. Looks like you crime school and CIA training has got you a little too ancy for a conspiracy.
My wife took me and my brother to the Brawl in Morgantown for Fitzerald’s sophomore season. We were there in our Pitt jerseys and were threatened in the men’s room; threatened in the parking let; threatened in the stands; and pelted with batteries during the entire game. Batteries, not food or something like that. Batteries.
When we finally left the game with 5 minutes to go, there were Pittsburgh news reporters outside asking if it was really as bad and dangerous inside as was expected ahead of time. What does it say about your fan base if the media is there covering safety concerns that arose based on fan comments before the game? There is a line, and WVU fans are so far on the other side of it that I think the line is just a rumor to them.
I disagree with the frontcourt. It isn’t like Blair and Young are being beat because they can’t matchup with the opposing teams height. They just don’t understand position and help defense. I understand a true freshman making errors, but a junior with a year of prep school should not be having so many issues defensively. Young has given up so many layups in this 7 game stretch. It is truly mind boggling. He wasn’t this terrible early in the year either. Hopefully he makes a commitment to defense. If he does not, then we cannot regain the early season form.
Blair is going to make a lot of mistakes. But we can’t have two players that are unable to defend a simple pick and roll. If we are going to give up uncontested layups, then we might as well switch on all screens. Blair and Young will be better off trying to stay with a guard, rather than missing the rotation every single time.
The defense, or lack thereof, isn’t Dixon’s fault. On a pick and roll you either hedge and recover or switch. There is no other way to defend it. The way Pitt is playing the hedge they should just switch. It isn’t even the player that is hedging who is making the mistake. The 3 players that are not defending the pick and roll have to recognize which side the screener is on. The defender opposite the ball has to leave his man and help on the player rolling to the hoop. When the player hedging recovers, then the help defender finds his man and things should be okay. Our help defender is ALWAYS too late. Young and Blair are ALWAYS the culprits. I’ll be honest the hedging hasn’t been great either (you have to do something to disrupt the dribbler before recovering) but the help defense has been beyond awful.
Our zone is also pathetic. That is why I suggest simply switching on all screens. I’ll take my chances with Young or Blair defending a quicker guard and Fields or Ramon defending a big. I’m sure Blair will end up with 2 fouls in 5 minutes, but that happens most of the time anyway. It isn’t ideal, but it is better than giving up uncontested layups in man-to-man and uncontested threes in the zone. Not to mention 3 offensive rebounds in the zone as well.
I’ve got to disagree on the Blair/Young frontcourt thing. Yes, they play bad defense, but even if they played good D Pitt would still be under-sized with no depth in the frontcourt which is no recipe for success in this conference.
Blair is playing out of position at the 5-spot because Dixon didn’t bring in any big man recruits who panned out for the last few years and maybe that wouldn’t matter so much if Young could hold his own on the boards….but he doesnt want to box out and he’s often at a size disadvantage too.
Dixon likes to play a grind-it-out style sometimes, and you need a big strong team to do that. He hasn’t done a good job of finding the right players to drive his strategy and we have to hold him accountable for that. Biggs is the best he’s done over the last 2-3 yrs until Blair fell into his lap, and think about how scary that is………considering Biggs is consistently overmatched against strong comp.
But it’s not just the frontcourt size/strength/toughness thing. There are obviously also shooting problems and major defensive issues at hand. Let’s get real about this squad. I was trying to get everybody to see that during the early season wins, but nobody wanted to listen then.
I feel like Jamie’s kind of crested a wave and he’s headed down the other side and now it’s time to turn it around by bringing in some better recruits and tightening up how they play. He’s had a few years and seems much more comfortable in the role and in his own skin, so I’m hopeful he can get the momentum rollling again.
The rebounding is also a function of our piss poor rotations. Nobody knows where they are supposed to be and their man has an advantage because of it.
This team can play with any team in the country when they feel like it. See Louisvile who I think is playing better ball than every team in the top-5 right now. Pitt almost beat that team by playing hard and not being out of position. Yes Blair had problems with Padgett, but Padgett had problems with Blair too. Their performance basically canceled each other out. Pitt was in the game because they weren’t giving up layups. Then Louisville decided to run pick and rolls to ice the game and lo and behold, Pitt cannot defend it. Any time a team needs a basket they simply have to run a pick and roll. It’s that easy.
The loss of confidence would manifest itself not only on offense, but also on defense if he has gone from believing he is the man to realizing that he is a small fish in a big pond.
I do think it is mental, but it is also something that the coaching staff needs to work on with him because he is one heck of a talent.
You could usually go to battle with that size team if you were planning on running and pressing, but the fun of Dixon’s situation is that this small team isn’t especially fast either and he wouldn’t want to play that way even if he had the horses.
The only option Dixon has had is to play Benjamin more at the SG position and I think he’s really hurt his squad by not using that lineup more. Ramon could come off the bench to play PG or SG and having Brown in gives him more size/athleticism at the 3.
Having Cook around would have helped a little because he’s a more versatile player than Benjamin or Brown, but it wouldn’t have solved the problem.
I think Dixon is in a bind right now and he’s probably not real happy about it.
Hail to Pitt. And don’t forget to get your football season tix while the gettin’ is good…