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February 15, 2008

Open Thread: Pitt-Marquette

Filed under: Basketball,Open Thread — Chas @ 8:50 pm

Friday night. Thought I had things all set to be able to watch right away. Not happening. Back later.





Wow Marquette is coming out with some energy. It will be fun watching Pitt Control the tempo.

Comment by Freebird 02.15.08 @ 9:06 pm

Fields is coming in soon I think.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 9:10 pm

Here he is.

Comment by Freebird 02.15.08 @ 9:12 pm

Entertaining game so far…Barro is hurting us

Comment by Matt O 02.15.08 @ 9:13 pm

we are giving up way to many easy baskets

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 9:23 pm

I think I like the tempo of this game. Marquette needs to go cold for a few minutes though. I would love to see Ramon, Fields and Benjamin out there together with Young and Blair.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 9:26 pm

Fields is looking rusty….not a complaint, just an observation.

Refs blew that goaltend at the beginning…and the one ref called the block (which it was) and some retard ref called a charge on fields… Aside from those 2 bad calls, i’m glad they haven’t rewarded the diving my MU, yet calling the real offensive fouls…

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:27 pm

Thats 3 charges that Blair has taken. Awesome.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 9:28 pm

Blair is just setting up shop standing in the lain…stupid ass MU can’t stop charging….

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:29 pm

Anyone catch that middle finger on ESPN?

Comment by Freebird 02.15.08 @ 9:29 pm

They are KILLING us on cuts – i’m not sure why they’re not making the passes as much anymore, but they have a TON of open cuts…

Now Wannaker with sweet recovery and block….refs call a foul cause they weren’t sure what happened…awful.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:31 pm

Chargitis is contagious.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 9:34 pm

Oh boy…i guess there are no blocks, EVERYTHING is an offensive foul….refs don’t seem to know the difference….

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:35 pm

Frigid shooting

Comment by Freebird 02.15.08 @ 9:37 pm

So tired of Biggs getting back screened. He has no court awareness on D at all. This game getting out of hand already. Pitt again not shooting well.

Comment by Dan 72 02.15.08 @ 9:37 pm

And we’ve gone ice cold…nothing falling…how does Ramon miss the ENTIRE rim on a wide open 3?

All we need now is another injury…awesome…

I like the slo mo that proves it wasn’t a charge, it was a block…awesome we got screwed on that…

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:38 pm

ANOTHER WIDE OPEN 3 by brown…nothing.

Please send help….

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:38 pm

I’m a bit surprised how much Fields is playing…thought Dixon would ease him in a little slower

Comment by Matt O 02.15.08 @ 9:39 pm

Seriously, have they called a single block the entire game, or has it all be charges? WTF is going on? The ones by blair were CLEAR as day, he was there for an hour…now if you dive in front of someone, its a block….

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:40 pm

Benji stepping up and draining two…at least we have one person making shots.

This zone is dumb….we’re awful at it….they’ve had half a dozen open looks, we’ve just been lucky they’ve only knocked down 2 tres so far…we need to stop already…

Blair is killing us on the last two posessions…two turnovers….

need help…

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:43 pm

Awesome…down big at the half…good thing we’re letting them shoot wide open 3s all day…

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:44 pm

Are we playing the globtrotters? They are too fast for us right now. This could get ugly if Pitt doesn’t grind them down.

Comment by Freebird 02.15.08 @ 9:44 pm

That was a terrible half by Pitt. Defense horrible, turnovers, out hustled all over the court.

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 9:45 pm

Yikes…down 9 at the half. It could have been much worse, much. I won’t start to worry until 9 minutes left in the game.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 9:46 pm

Staurt, what aout the 12 points on wide open layups

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 9:47 pm

I didn’t like the play for Fields to take the last shot. He is still rusty. Would rather have seen that taken by someone else.

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 9:50 pm

We just never match up well here. Quick guards kill Pitt. Agreed…I never want to see the zone again. 2-3 or 3-2 which was an utter disiaster.

The one battle I thought we’d win was inside, and we are getting hammered…we need to make them play ugly…like we do..

Comment by Dan 72 02.15.08 @ 9:53 pm

Two messages for Jamie – Fields needs to sit the entire second half. He’s not got any timing yet on offense.
– Stay the hell out of the zone. It’s killing us.

Comment by Kevin 02.15.08 @ 9:53 pm

The slowness on D can largely be attributed to Fields, and when McGhee has been in the game. Fields should only play in the 2nd half if somebody gets in foul trouble. And we need to attack the hoop. Is Blair ever going to realize he weights 270 pounds??!! He has GOT to go strong to the hoop.

Comment by Carmen 02.15.08 @ 9:56 pm

I mentioned above we were getting killed on cuts – i’m not sure why they stopped making them – maybe cause they can get more points just shooting all the wide open 3s? Our defense has been less than stellar. Pretty much everyone of our guys got burned once or twice, and after a slow start, MU started making their shots.

I have no answer. I hope Dixon does. If we protect the 3 point line, the get layups all day, and if we collapse, they’re shooting 3s all day.

I would like to point out when they were getting layups, we were in the game. Once they started getting wide open 3s, not so much…I say go back to making them drive, and not have 3 guys collapse, play less help D, and pray…

AND MAKE A GODDAMN OPEN SHOT. BROWN, RAMON, BROWN again…they’re going to give him that shot all night if he keeps missing it with noone with 10 ft of him… 1-6 from 3… They’ve shot SIXTEEN….luckily, they missed a ton, only 25%…i don’t think thats gonna happen if they keep getting those looks…

And why the hell is Young taking jumpers 1 ft inside the 3 point line? Is that considered a “good shot,” ever?

Right now it looks like Benji should play the entire second half…he’s our best player today…

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:57 pm

PLUS – everything is a charge – we stopped getting charge calls and they stopped turning the ball over when they quit driving, and started hoisting 3s. I say guard the 3 point line and keep taking charges on the help d after the blowby…

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 9:58 pm

Fields needs to get back into games, we need him to play the rest of the year…its not like we were going to kill them if he sat the whole game. I do agree he’s had several lapses on D – i think he’s trying to make things happen to much, cheating down trying to get steals, leaving his man on gambles, etc… He needs to realize he doesn’t have to “make up” for the time he missed, just play sound D, stop leavin guys open or let them blow by you to the hoop on backdoor cuts… Less gamble, more solid.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:02 pm

And blais affraid of all the offensive foul calls, that’s why he’s not taking it strong. We need a Duke like effort in the second half,

LETS FUCKING GO!

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:03 pm

Well….stupid zone, missing shots…even more blowbys….we’ve somehow gotten worse.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:08 pm

The effort just isn’t there tonight. Are they afraid of marquette? This is starting to look like Dayton. We better get somethong going soon or we are going to get blown out here.

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 10:09 pm

Fuck, I can’t watch this

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 10:12 pm

THATS FYCKIGN AWFUL.. WHAT A FUCKIGN BULLSHIT CALL.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:12 pm

TMG, I was just thinking the same thing- looks like another Dayton. this is ugly.

Comment by Ann 02.15.08 @ 10:13 pm

Pitt tastes like gross milk right now.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 10:13 pm

No offense, bad D, terrible refs. In for a long night…

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:16 pm

Gotta make up a point per minute now. Not impossible

Comment by Campbell 02.15.08 @ 10:16 pm

I guess the only hope is Fields knocks 2 months of rust off during this timeout and he tears the place apart….

I can hope, right?

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:17 pm

Totally getting out hustled

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 10:18 pm

Wow. Check please.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 10:19 pm

Seriously, does anyone really think that isn’t a block.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:20 pm

was that a foul too?

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:21 pm

Turn out the lights….

Comment by Ann 02.15.08 @ 10:22 pm

Pitt at it’s worst. No scoring,slow D, poor court presence…this one is over. This team was NOT ready to play. Looks like a HS team vs a college team.

Comment by Dan 72 02.15.08 @ 10:23 pm

We can’t blame the officials for this. We…sucked…tonight. We have these games once a month, so we just clench tight and eat pride.

Comment by Panthoor 02.15.08 @ 10:24 pm

Looks like a new record for the worst loss by a JD- coached team. On national TV. Great.

Comment by Ann 02.15.08 @ 10:28 pm

Well, we really never had a chance. When you can’t make a wide open shot, the adjustment you make is take it inside. The refs have totally blown all those calls, and made that impossible, so we’re fuct. That caused everyone to quit on D…

…if i were marquette i’d stop now, or pray to lose in the BE tourney before they meet us. We won’t forget.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:30 pm

does anyone still think we have legit BE guards? slow, small gets you killed in the BE. need help or 2-1-2 zone.

Comment by kurt 02.15.08 @ 10:30 pm

I can’t even get upset about bad calls or anything else at this point. It’s just f@#$ing god-awful, and the terrible shooting is just too much to bear. Sadly, I think this team is too dependent on Blair and he has plateaued, perhaps even regressed. He is timid down low. He needs to spend a day or two watching tapes of Tyler Hansbrough. He may be a spaz, but he never goes soft to the hoop.

And Gilbert Brown never even looks to drive – he just chucks up 3s. Our dependence on freshmen — in addition to the inconsistent shooting — is catching up with us.

I hate this.

Comment by Carmen 02.15.08 @ 10:33 pm

time to change the channel and return in, …um, lets say 8 or so minutes from now.

aside from winning a contest in ’07, marquette nearly owns us. this is one of the worst beat downs I’ve seen in quite a while.

this

Comment by Neil 02.15.08 @ 10:34 pm

Yeah, fields sucks, lets dump on his cause he broke his shoot 6 weeks ago.

Ok, everyone start taking shots at our players and dixon now….

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:34 pm

Lose by one or lose by 20 — Who cares? — It is only one loss, on the road, against a ranked team.

It doesn’t mean anything until March.

Comment by Campbell 02.15.08 @ 10:34 pm

Blair can’t take it to the hoop cause its a foul. Have you been watching the game?

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:35 pm

Pitt down 27 and it could be worse. Out of scotch and going to bed!

Pitt’s been asking for this kind of a beat down with their poor play. Thought we might have a chance at ND, but no way after tonight.

Comment by Dan 72 02.15.08 @ 10:38 pm

Thank goodness there’s the BE tourney for redemption. It will be interesting to see how we recover from this beating.

Comment by Ann 02.15.08 @ 10:40 pm

We’re going to end NDs home win streak. I’m not even concerned.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:41 pm

NOW tehy call a fuckign block. Unbelieveable. I thought that was a “charge” earlier…which is it, assholes?

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:44 pm

Keep rubbing it in assholes…keep it up….

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 10:47 pm

Our offensive struggles are what worries me. We’re missing too many buckets up close. How do you fix that? What will this do to the team’s confidence level? Seems like the Duke game was a lifetime ago.

Comment by Ann 02.15.08 @ 10:50 pm

Its going to make them kill ND is what its going to do. We’re still Young, this is the up and down you get with 4 freshman. Oh well. Im more pissed with the awful reffing, if we were allowed to drive or back down a man, it wouldn’t have been such a blow out. We’re not a finesse jumpshooting team… And our kids get too emotional – you could see every bad call took a little more out of them, every missed shot… they quit again. We always show good effort the next game. And we have a week to be pissed off.

Comment by Stuart 02.15.08 @ 11:00 pm

Refs had nothing to do with this debacle. HORRIBLE, DISGUSTING, EMBARASSING. I thought we were coming around but the effort tonight was just not there. We were out played in all phases of the game and had no answers. No DEFENSE and no OFFENSE.

OK I got that out of my system. Who do we play next.

Comment by TMGPanther 02.15.08 @ 11:03 pm

Pitt seems to shot bad when the d plays zone and puts pressure on the shooters and we dont have time to shoot we are in trouble.We dont move the ball on the outside, two passes chuck it up they need to make 5 passes on the outside against the zone and then will get open shot. Out guards are bad shooter when someone is in there face.We dont go low with the ball very well, Blair is still young and doesnt take it to the hoop good and strong. Lets Go Pitt, I hope ND doesnt play zone,we are much better against Man to Man

Comment by Buzz 02.15.08 @ 11:21 pm

Hey… we went 9-10 from the line. That has to be some sort of Pitt record. Or at least something positive to pull from a wasted Friday night.

Comment by Dave in Orlando 02.15.08 @ 11:26 pm

Well, some game film is made to be burned…this they should watch once and burn.

Give Marquette credit…they looked like PITT earlier in the season–extra passes, setting screens, going hard to the glass, pushing us away from the basket, etc…..they looked like a mirror of us on a good day!

Nice to see Levance back…he just needs time to work back into the system.

Oh, well…off to the mountain tomorrow to get some skiing in….

Hail to PITT!
-al-

Comment by Oregon_Panther 02.15.08 @ 11:26 pm

Hard to believe we are the #14 team in offensive efficiency–we seem to go really hot (Providence) or really cold.(1-11 from 3 pt range tonite) Our defense is not near as good as in previous years. I think that the constant flopping and whistling that Blair is getting is taking its toll on him. JD has to get them to slow it down, make the other team defend for 30 plus seconds unless we get a great shot down low. I think that the lack of 5 on 5 practice is starting to show as well. We don’t match up well against quick guards–and we did nothing to slow down their fast break. We are not a top 25 team right now–we have to get things straightened out in the near future.

Comment by tph60 02.15.08 @ 11:34 pm

Sad game…quite frankly embarrassing. If we can’t win against a top 25 in Febrauary, tourney time will suck

Comment by Jen 02.16.08 @ 12:15 am

Sorry boys and girls but the worse may be yet to come. I am sure we will matchup great with ND and Louisville after what we watched tonight. Any team with quick guards and a decent big man will give us trouble. And be careful what you wish for because playing Marquette in the tourament will most likely be the end of the road for Pitt. The reality of the situation is: we simply aren’t that goooooooood!

Comment by ltl 02.16.08 @ 6:20 pm

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