Comments on: Football Blogpoll ‘07 Ballot, Week 6 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/ The rantings and commentary on Pitt football and basketball ... and anything else from a distracted mind Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:33:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Pitt Blather — The Rantings Continue Permalink » Football Blogpoll ‘07 Final Ballot, Week 6 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-60420 Pitt Blather — The Rantings Continue Permalink » Football Blogpoll ‘07 Final Ballot, Week 6 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:45:08 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-60420 [...] Not a lot of changes from the draft ballot. Minor tweaks, really. [...] [...] Not a lot of changes from the draft ballot. Minor tweaks, really. [...]

]]> By: Stoosh http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59705 Stoosh Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:22:53 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59705 Cpiritual, I'll take issue with a few things in your argument that you make here... "So we have Rutgers and Louisville who are two of the most overrated teams in football. WVU, who may or may not be good, because they haven’t played anyone outside of the Big Easy. Ditto for UConn. So we’re left with USF and maybe Cincy. That’s not a down year? Conversely, the Big 10 has OSU, who even your Pitt brethren above can admit have a championship caliber defense. Illinois’ only loss was by 6 points to an undefeated Missouri team ON THE ROAD WITH A BACKUP QB. Auburn aside, that loss is more impressive than any of the other Big Easy OOC wins. Purdue, PSU, Indiana and Michigan are easily as good as WVU, RU, UConn, and…oh wait, there is no one else in the Big Easy. Why do I make this statement? Because they have the same OOC credibility as all the Big Easy teams I just mentioned. Face facts dude…the three teams expected to vie for the Big Least championship have bombed. How is the Big 10 having a worse season right now?" So let me get this straight... You're slamming the Big East because tbe Big Three of WVU, Louisville and Rutgers weren't as dominant as they were supposed to be. In addition, you also bring up the emergence of USF and Cincy as proof that the Big East is having just as down a year as the Big Ten, if not more. How exactly does that work when the same exact argument could be made for the Big Ten? The Big Ten was thought to have four teams with legitimate claims to the Big Ten title heading into the season - OSU, Michigan, Wisky and Penn State. So if Louisville, Rutgers and maybe even WVU proved to be overrated to start the season, the same can certainly be said for Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn State. Furthermore, aren't Illinois and Indiana the Big Ten's versions of USF and Cincy, respectively? Illinois showed just enough last year that they were thought to be a potential dark horse (just like USF) and Indiana has come out of nowhere to stake a legitimate shot at the Big Ten title, just as Cincy has done in the Big East. If you're going to slam the Big East because two dark horses have emerged as potential conf. champs while some other preseason favorites have fallen off a bit, you can't trumpet the same sort of situation as positive for the Big Ten. Or are we still unfairly penalizing USF and Cincinnati because they're relative newcomers to the NCAA spotlight? Cpiritual,

I’ll take issue with a few things in your argument that you make here…

“So we have Rutgers and Louisville who are two of the most overrated teams in football. WVU, who may or may not be good, because they haven’t played anyone outside of the Big Easy. Ditto for UConn. So we’re left with USF and maybe Cincy. That’s not a down year?

Conversely, the Big 10 has OSU, who even your Pitt brethren above can admit have a championship caliber defense. Illinois’ only loss was by 6 points to an undefeated Missouri team ON THE ROAD WITH A BACKUP QB. Auburn aside, that loss is more impressive than any of the other Big Easy OOC wins. Purdue, PSU, Indiana and Michigan are easily as good as WVU, RU, UConn, and…oh wait, there is no one else in the Big Easy. Why do I make this statement? Because they have the same OOC credibility as all the Big Easy teams I just mentioned.

Face facts dude…the three teams expected to vie for the Big Least championship have bombed. How is the Big 10 having a worse season right now?”

So let me get this straight…

You’re slamming the Big East because tbe Big Three of WVU, Louisville and Rutgers weren’t as dominant as they were supposed to be. In addition, you also bring up the emergence of USF and Cincy as proof that the Big East is having just as down a year as the Big Ten, if not more.

How exactly does that work when the same exact argument could be made for the Big Ten? The Big Ten was thought to have four teams with legitimate claims to the Big Ten title heading into the season - OSU, Michigan, Wisky and Penn State. So if Louisville, Rutgers and maybe even WVU proved to be overrated to start the season, the same can certainly be said for Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn State.

Furthermore, aren’t Illinois and Indiana the Big Ten’s versions of USF and Cincy, respectively? Illinois showed just enough last year that they were thought to be a potential dark horse (just like USF) and Indiana has come out of nowhere to stake a legitimate shot at the Big Ten title, just as Cincy has done in the Big East.

If you’re going to slam the Big East because two dark horses have emerged as potential conf. champs while some other preseason favorites have fallen off a bit, you can’t trumpet the same sort of situation as positive for the Big Ten.

Or are we still unfairly penalizing USF and Cincinnati because they’re relative newcomers to the NCAA spotlight?

]]> By: Cpiritual http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59690 Cpiritual Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:23:52 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59690 Stuart, you see what you want to see. I can't argue with you. Fact of the matter is I see you patrolling this board every gameday, most of the time pissing off other PITT fans. Why would I bother to argue with you? Moreover, if you're not here, then you're hijacking BSD comment sections as well. I just can't beat that type of dedication, sorry. Stuart, you see what you want to see. I can’t argue with you. Fact of the matter is I see you patrolling this board every gameday, most of the time pissing off other PITT fans. Why would I bother to argue with you?

Moreover, if you’re not here, then you’re hijacking BSD comment sections as well. I just can’t beat that type of dedication, sorry.

]]> By: Stuart http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59662 Stuart Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:12:30 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59662 BTW - we don't pick who we play in the post-season, unlike you people with your OOC schedules. I promise you we'd all love to get ahold of some real teams (like the one time its happened in the last few years) and prove how good teams from the big east really are. Instead 100,000 fans decide to have piss poor teams play in the big games - i'm still trying to figure out how they're going to shoe-horn ND into a BCS game again... BTW - we don’t pick who we play in the post-season, unlike you people with your OOC schedules. I promise you we’d all love to get ahold of some real teams (like the one time its happened in the last few years) and prove how good teams from the big east really are. Instead 100,000 fans decide to have piss poor teams play in the big games - i’m still trying to figure out how they’re going to shoe-horn ND into a BCS game again…

]]> By: Stuart http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59661 Stuart Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:09:05 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59661 Keep rambling about unrelated ridiculous shit. OSU has played no one. You can't dispute this. No one in the big 10 has beaten any real team with a winning record. Also a fact. Two teams from the Big East have - just not the ones you expected. Just because you don't like the ACC either...its a BCS conference, and the team has a 4-2 record. No one in your conference can claim a win like that. Defend OSU being ranked in the top 2 without strawman arguments, non-sequitors and red herrings. I've read everything you've written, and you've refuted nothing. Use some fucking logic. Let me quote what i originall wrote: "On the ballot: WTF? OSU at 2? Have you seen their schedule compared to, say, USF? What, we rank mediocre big televen teams who beat other overrated big televen teams that played TERRIBLE schedules? You might as well put them at one so we can repeat the mistakes of last year. If OSU is 2, UConn is 3. Quick, someone: What is the best win of ANY big televen team this year, not against another big televen teams? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Let me answer it for you: They’ve beaten NO ONE. Not a single big televen team has a win against ANY TEAM ranked in the top 25, much less against a program with a winning record. They’ve played the dog shit of the world (yes, even terrible us) and are only ranked because they’re beating the worst teams in the nation (brealy in same cases) and each other. Not one single team in the big televen should be in the top ten. Play 1 single real OOC game, then talk about getting ranked. Seriously, go look at their schedules and see how they’re doing in those games. Its a joke." BTW: Insulting the Big East doesn't get the big televen a pass. You're just too slow to understand... Keep rambling about unrelated ridiculous shit.

OSU has played no one. You can’t dispute this. No one in the big 10 has beaten any real team with a winning record. Also a fact.

Two teams from the Big East have - just not the ones you expected. Just because you don’t like the ACC either…its a BCS conference, and the team has a 4-2 record. No one in your conference can claim a win like that.

Defend OSU being ranked in the top 2 without strawman arguments, non-sequitors and red herrings. I’ve read everything you’ve written, and you’ve refuted nothing. Use some fucking logic. Let me quote what i originall wrote:

“On the ballot: WTF? OSU at 2? Have you seen their schedule compared to, say, USF? What, we rank mediocre big televen teams who beat other overrated big televen teams that played TERRIBLE schedules? You might as well put them at one so we can repeat the mistakes of last year. If OSU is 2, UConn is 3.

Quick, someone: What is the best win of ANY big televen team this year, not against another big televen teams? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Let me answer it for you: They’ve beaten NO ONE. Not a single big televen team has a win against ANY TEAM ranked in the top 25, much less against a program with a winning record. They’ve played the dog shit of the world (yes, even terrible us) and are only ranked because they’re beating the worst teams in the nation (brealy in same cases) and each other. Not one single team in the big televen should be in the top ten. Play 1 single real OOC game, then talk about getting ranked.

Seriously, go look at their schedules and see how they’re doing in those games. Its a joke.”

BTW: Insulting the Big East doesn’t get the big televen a pass. You’re just too slow to understand…

]]> By: Cpiritual http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59596 Cpiritual Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:14:48 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59596 So basically Max, all you've been able to prove is that you're a Big Easy homer. To recap: -USF is a good team, I've already said that. No qualms there. -Cincy hasn't played anyone outside of the Big Easy. And if Oregon State counts then you better believe Washington and Wash. St. count for the Big 10. -Louisville is EXACTLY like Michigan, except without a winning record. -Rutgers lost twice AT HOME to teams they supposedly should've beaten. They're not very good, just face facts there. -PSU and Indiana aren't very good because...ummm...why exactly? Indiana only lost once to a ranked team. PSU lost to a ranked team and a poor team....kinda like Rutgers, who you seem to think is good. Myopia, much? Well there is one fundamental difference between the two...PSU actually fields a difference (the Big Easy has what, one team which has one of those?). -Illinois smoked Syracuse (they beat Louisville, right?), and their only loss is to an undefeated team on the road with a backup QB. But no, they suck. Keep drinking the kool-aid fellas. Hopefully the Big Leasters will actually play some legitimate teams in the postseason this year and get exposed for the frauds they are. So basically Max, all you’ve been able to prove is that you’re a Big Easy homer. To recap:

-USF is a good team, I’ve already said that. No qualms there.
-Cincy hasn’t played anyone outside of the Big Easy. And if Oregon State counts then you better believe Washington and Wash. St. count for the Big 10.
-Louisville is EXACTLY like Michigan, except without a winning record.
-Rutgers lost twice AT HOME to teams they supposedly should’ve beaten. They’re not very good, just face facts there.
-PSU and Indiana aren’t very good because…ummm…why exactly? Indiana only lost once to a ranked team. PSU lost to a ranked team and a poor team….kinda like Rutgers, who you seem to think is good. Myopia, much? Well there is one fundamental difference between the two…PSU actually fields a difference (the Big Easy has what, one team which has one of those?).
-Illinois smoked Syracuse (they beat Louisville, right?), and their only loss is to an undefeated team on the road with a backup QB. But no, they suck.

Keep drinking the kool-aid fellas. Hopefully the Big Leasters will actually play some legitimate teams in the postseason this year and get exposed for the frauds they are.

]]> By: Max http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59571 Max Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:17:31 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59571 I wouldnt consider this a down year for the big east at all actually. South Florida is legit and wvu is dominant outside of playing USF so you can't say you don't know if there good just look at the facts.. south florida is the only team that has been able to stop wvu in the past two years. Cinncy came out of no where but has proved to be a preety good squad. Louisville is the big easts michigan..big offense no defense and Rutgers lost to two decent teams. PSU is not very good at all and neither is Indiana for that matter. Ill give the Big Ten three teams. OSU Wisconsin and Illinois. And the only thing that Illinois is proving is that if you run the spread and have athletes you can beat any team in the Big Ten. I wouldnt consider this a down year for the big east at all actually. South Florida is legit and wvu is dominant outside of playing USF so you can’t say you don’t know if there good just look at the facts.. south florida is the only team that has been able to stop wvu in the past two years. Cinncy came out of no where but has proved to be a preety good squad. Louisville is the big easts michigan..big offense no defense and Rutgers lost to two decent teams. PSU is not very good at all and neither is Indiana for that matter. Ill give the Big Ten three teams. OSU Wisconsin and Illinois. And the only thing that Illinois is proving is that if you run the spread and have athletes you can beat any team in the Big Ten.

]]> By: Rob http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59554 Rob Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:26:46 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59554 Big East having a down year we have 2 teams in the top 10 same as the sec and 3 teams undefeated(although not the 3 you would have expected). I feel that this is the year where you will have not a single unbeaten and at least 4 deserving of a title shot. This will be the year that we will look back on and say that's what finally got us a playoff. That is of course if we ever get a playoff. Big East having a down year we have 2 teams in the top 10 same as the sec and 3 teams undefeated(although not the 3 you would have expected). I feel that this is the year where you will have not a single unbeaten and at least 4 deserving of a title shot. This will be the year that we will look back on and say that’s what finally got us a playoff. That is of course if we ever get a playoff.

]]> By: Cpiritual http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59553 Cpiritual Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:24:13 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59553 Oh, and while we're playing the "overrated game," I called Rutgers and Louisville...so I guess we're even there too? Haha, I also remember saying something to the effect of there maybe being 5 teams in the country who could outscore UL...I guess Utah, Syracuse and Kentucky were three of them!! HA!! As for your silly misnomer of the "Big televen," if you can't see that ESPN is fawning over the Big Easy then I don't know what to tell you. If you can't see that they're annoyed that they might have competition from the BTN, hence they're being subversive towards the Big 10 then I don't know what to tell you. Take the blinders off dude. Oh, and while we’re playing the “overrated game,” I called Rutgers and Louisville…so I guess we’re even there too? Haha, I also remember saying something to the effect of there maybe being 5 teams in the country who could outscore UL…I guess Utah, Syracuse and Kentucky were three of them!! HA!!

As for your silly misnomer of the “Big televen,” if you can’t see that ESPN is fawning over the Big Easy then I don’t know what to tell you. If you can’t see that they’re annoyed that they might have competition from the BTN, hence they’re being subversive towards the Big 10 then I don’t know what to tell you. Take the blinders off dude.

]]> By: Cpiritual http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59551 Cpiritual Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:20:32 +0000 http://www.pittblather.com/2007/10/08/football-blogpoll-07-ballot-week-6/#comment-59551 Stuart, what the hell are you talking about?? The Big East has collectively played ONE legitimate OOC game, and that was USF against Auburn. If you're citing a 4-2 team from the ACC as a good win, then I don't know what to tell you. I will just as easily call wins against Washington good then too. Now, what else...what's the Big 10's record against the Big East? Oh, and you better believe I count Syracuse, seeing as how THEY BEAT LOUISVILLE!! Hmm... So we have Rutgers and Louisville who are two of the most overrated teams in football. WVU, who may or may not be good, because they haven't played anyone outside of the Big Easy. Ditto for UConn. So we're left with USF and maybe Cincy. That's not a down year? Conversely, the Big 10 has OSU, who even your Pitt brethren above can admit have a championship caliber defense. Illinois' only loss was by 6 points to an undefeated Missouri team ON THE ROAD WITH A BACKUP QB. Auburn aside, that loss is more impressive than any of the other Big Easy OOC wins. Purdue, PSU, Indiana and Michigan are easily as good as WVU, RU, UConn, and...oh wait, there is no one else in the Big Easy. Why do I make this statement? Because they have the same OOC credibility as all the Big Easy teams I just mentioned. Face facts dude...the three teams expected to vie for the Big Least championship have bombed. How is the Big 10 having a worse season right now? Stuart, what the hell are you talking about?? The Big East has collectively played ONE legitimate OOC game, and that was USF against Auburn. If you’re citing a 4-2 team from the ACC as a good win, then I don’t know what to tell you. I will just as easily call wins against Washington good then too.

Now, what else…what’s the Big 10’s record against the Big East? Oh, and you better believe I count Syracuse, seeing as how THEY BEAT LOUISVILLE!! Hmm…

So we have Rutgers and Louisville who are two of the most overrated teams in football. WVU, who may or may not be good, because they haven’t played anyone outside of the Big Easy. Ditto for UConn. So we’re left with USF and maybe Cincy. That’s not a down year?

Conversely, the Big 10 has OSU, who even your Pitt brethren above can admit have a championship caliber defense. Illinois’ only loss was by 6 points to an undefeated Missouri team ON THE ROAD WITH A BACKUP QB. Auburn aside, that loss is more impressive than any of the other Big Easy OOC wins. Purdue, PSU, Indiana and Michigan are easily as good as WVU, RU, UConn, and…oh wait, there is no one else in the Big Easy. Why do I make this statement? Because they have the same OOC credibility as all the Big Easy teams I just mentioned.

Face facts dude…the three teams expected to vie for the Big Least championship have bombed. How is the Big 10 having a worse season right now?

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